mats: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-27#1059739 << my understanding is a central bank first lowers interest rates, and then it can do qe (mortgage mbs purchases), which also reduces rates, and the rates would be negative but for the fed's reverse repo program
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-27 10:45:43 PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-26#1059724 << are you saying it goes the other way, low interest rates lead to QE?
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=702592
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=702592
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=702592 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.099s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.171s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.229s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.234s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.403s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.583s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702592
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: !q uptime
dulapbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 104d 11h 35m
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $41544.71
PeterL: !s uptime
scoopbot: PeterL: time since my last reconnect : 54d 17h 34m
PeterL: so much more stable than freenode ever was
asciilifeform: PeterL: well tbf, is much easier with 10 people on 1 box than 100k
PeterL: true
PeterL: did they really have 100k users?
asciilifeform: nfi but prolly closer to that than 10
punkman: "Backwards compatible with Hitachi/Renesas SH-2 CPU"
asciilifeform: punkman: lol, new fritz chip? there's over9000 of these already
punkman: "The open source BSD licensed VHDL code for the J2 core has been proven on Xilinx FPGAs and on ASICs manufactured on TSMC's 180 nm process, and is capable of booting µClinux."
punkman: patents expired in 2015, someone picked it up
asciilifeform: punkman: j2 is oldnoose
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-06-11 asciilifeform: j2 at least has the virtue of being small, and fitting in ice40 fpga.
signpost popcorns as waits for the stonk market rug-pull.
asciilifeform: signpost: hm?
signpost: the fake financial markets look like they're about to take another mega-shit.
signpost: buying time for friends of the fed
asciilifeform: nao if only there were nonfake market somewhere
punkman: implemented pest operator commands. todo: getdata, rekey, fork handling and some local testing (and review concurrency/locks, probably got some race conditions in there)
asciilifeform: punkman: nifty!
asciilifeform: punkman: posted anywhere?
punkman: not yet
punkman: really happy that IRCD seems to work, thought it'd be gnarlier
asciilifeform: punkman: if you think about it, most of the classical rfc that defines irc is simply garbage, and not needed for anyffin in pest
asciilifeform: (e.g. all the parts which concern irc server-to-server linkages)
asciilifeform: theoretically we could even dispense with join/part, tho not sure whether clients will barf
punkman: I'd like to have more than one channel, so join/part is fine. Library didn't have server2server stuff, that was good. Was "TLS only" though which I cut out.
asciilifeform: punkman: i.e. you want to bake a pestron which can work >1 net simult.? (and represent as channels)
punkman: could /join #log for example and get replay of requested time frame, or last X hours
punkman: or #debug for more verbose debugging info
asciilifeform: seems that znc extensions would be best for 'n hours of log'
asciilifeform: but nfi how well those worked
asciilifeform: (various irc clients support retrofill such as done by znc)
punkman: I think it'd be nice to support multiple broadcast channels in single net though
punkman: but perhaps it complicates things too much
asciilifeform: punkman: imho terrible idea
asciilifeform: would vastly tangle things up imho, and thoroughly contradict the fundamentals.
punkman: if Message.Text starts with "#channel" we don't even need to change anything do we? just the way we send messages to our IRCD
asciilifeform: mno punkman . that garbage shouldn't make it into the pest msg text
asciilifeform: no ircisms in the text payload.
asciilifeform: i thought was quite clear from the doc.
punkman: sure
asciilifeform: #whatever is simply there to satisfy irc clients.
asciilifeform: it vanishes after console input processed, and reappears on receiver's end to satisfy his own irc client, is all
punkman: can also think of it as optional hashtags, then you can configure how you want your Pest station to display: - everything in #pest - only untagged messages in #pest, tagged messages in separate channel, - etc
asciilifeform: punkman: this doesn't play well with fragmented messages
asciilifeform: (which'll be most of'em, realistically, given as irc gives 512byte)
asciilifeform wants to encourage folx to resist featurism and adding movingparts that could've been done without
asciilifeform: imho thing oughta be as simple as inhumanly possible.
asciilifeform: i already fear my existing scheme is too complex.
punkman: sitting at 1350 lines, probably gonna hit 2k later
asciilifeform: punkman: right but as i understand most complicated mechanisms not there yet
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-28 13:58:36 punkman: implemented pest operator commands. todo: getdata, rekey, fork handling and some local testing (and review concurrency/locks, probably got some race conditions in there)
punkman: most of it is there, I can detect fork
asciilifeform: hearsay handling i expect will be ~50% of the moving parts in practice
punkman: hearsay handling all there, not sure if it works though
asciilifeform: punkman: what were you writing in again ?
punkman: Go
asciilifeform: unfortunate, at least from asciilifeform's pov, asciilifeform does not have the toolchain, nor could easily
asciilifeform: but i'ma read.
punkman: whoever wants to reimplement whole or parts, will probably need coroutines or gnarly threads
PeterL: Why Go? Does it have some advantage?
punkman: wanted to learn a bit of Go, seems somewhat well-suited for the task so far
punkman: wasn't deedbot a Go thing too?
asciilifeform: lolno
PeterL: I thought deedbot was lisp?
asciilifeform: it is, signpost posted src not long ago
asciilifeform: btw punkman ada has non-gnarly threads.
PeterL: what about Go makes it well suited for this task?
PeterL: (not trying to bash it, just curious since I have never used it)
punkman: has all the parts I needed, didn't get in the way. Other choice would have been Python, and we already have thimbronion's prototype.
punkman: considered Ada, but language spec seemed heavy last time I had a read
asciilifeform: punkman: most of the language spec is 100% irrelevant
asciilifeform: (i.e. the subset ffa is written in, uses maybe 10% of what's in the dead tree 'talmud' -- none of the oop garbage, for instance , is needed for anything, ever)
asciilifeform: at any rate, imho the moar implementations, the merrier, simply letting folx know that asciilifeform will not be testing one that requires google's toolchain horror
asciilifeform: (nor microshit, goes w/out saying)
PeterL: pest in virtualBasic!
punkman: pest in Javascript!
punkman: you'd need a websocket-to-rawudpsocket proxy, then it'd work in browser
asciilifeform: not that it's physically impossible, but imho is difficult to think of a worse place for such a thing
asciilifeform: in wholly unrelated non-news, this nsa search engine operates from (among unknown other blocks) 128.33.x.x . good target for all types of zap list.
asciilifeform: let'em spend dough & sweat for moar ips like any other scum.
asciilifeform: ( reads, fwiw, the logs, at ~2w intervals )
notsospooky: lolwut
notsospooky: I assure you the logs are not ingested into M3S.
notsospooky: I am just a bored developer who, long ago, used to play with Lisp machines and enjoys loper-os.
notsospooky: Consider the geolocation of this netblock, and what city Symbolics used to have offices in. :)
notsospooky: Although I am sure it is much more fun to think otherwise...!
notsospooky: Alas, this is the last time you'll hear from me at work.... best regards!
signpost: lol
signpost: always with the "bored".
asciilifeform: notsospooky: i dun even care if ingested, it's a public www, lol
asciilifeform: notsospooky: feel welcome to lurk ( & even speak ! ) btw, if you like