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gregory4: dpb: btw. I had a look at the website which you shared. your church seems to be non-Trinitarian, is that right?
gregory4: asciilifeform: have you looked at the old Ingres system before, from which PostgreSQL descends? is it worth studying?
gregory4: asciilifeform: if I correctly understand your messages above, you paid top-dollar for industrial internet to be installed in your house in Maryland?
gregory4: that is quite nice.
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-10#1044739 << That's inflation for ya, used to get 3 sky daddies for the price of one. These days ya only get one.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 09:53:23 gregory4: dpb: btw. I had a look at the website which you shared. your church seems to be non-Trinitarian, is that right?
asciilifeform: gregory4: lolwat, this?! hell no
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-09 17:07:48 asciilifeform: mats: there's 1 'residential' fiber co here, like in most places; once called up various 'commercial, we'll put anywhere' fiber people, their quites started at 100-200k for ~buildout~ ('we'll get you an architect for free estimate!') and 2-3k/mo service. for 100mbit.
asciilifeform: gregory4: was quoting an outrageous lolquote from $vendor
shinohai: comcast's idea of "business" is flipping a switch @ HQ and bringing you out a new router.
asciilifeform: shinohai: still exists here, in asciilifeform's head 'dark age'. ditched it >decade ago for the other east usa isp (verizon) that doesn't go down when it rains
shinohai: #trurh
asciilifeform: gregory4: since it wasn't clear apparently -- the lulzquote was from a vendor which offers 'commercial' (i.e. with qos guarantees) supposedly-to-anywhere service.
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690454 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.136s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690454
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.175s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690454
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690454
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=690419 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.182s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690454
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.168s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690454
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.273s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=108.31.170.100:8333 Blocks=690454 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.275s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412062 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.273s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690454
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.329s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690407
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
asciilifeform: oh hah my flagship noad needs reconfig, brb
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: !w probe 71.191.220.241
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.153s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=690455
asciilifeform: ^ fixed.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 09:56:00 gregory4: asciilifeform: have you looked at the old Ingres system before, from which PostgreSQL descends? is it worth studying?
billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-10#1044769 << nice, looking at this node helped me identify a bug in my crawler
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 10:30:33 asciilifeform: oh hah my flagship noad needs reconfig, brb
billymg: not one that results in bad data but that can result in too many probes in close succession for newly discovered nodes, for a brief period after they are first discovered
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 09:53:23 gregory4: dpb: btw. I had a look at the website which you shared. your church seems to be non-Trinitarian, is that right?
dpb: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-10#1044743 << no. Our contention is that God is not limited to three gods, and that these are in fact gods, not only people. The Athanasian creed (trinity) explicitely says God is not multiple gods.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 10:23:04 shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-10#1044739 << That's inflation for ya, used to get 3 sky daddies for the price of one. These days ya only get one.
shinohai: So you're actually flooding the market with Gods. Bold move.
mats: thats not derivative at all
mats: we're all going to hel
shinohai: ^___^
asciilifeform while writing ('1 step forward, 2 steps back', i add 10kB and then 'too long.. cut!') realized : the 'spanning tree protocol' was the 'great invention' that in fact fucked the original p2p-icity of arpanet! and continues to fuck today!
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-09 18:02:24 asciilifeform: shinohai: i'm working on a thing, ideally will post very rough draft this wknd
asciilifeform: ( likbez re subj. but factually is the algo behind the irc headache -- 'no, you may not have peerings a<->b + a<->c + b<->c ! one of these is redundant! fuck you')
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-04 14:47:32 asciilifeform: e.g. ethernet -- uses spanning-tree to guarantee acyclicity.
punkman: top kek "As part of regular monitoring of the network by the Bitcoin SV Infrastructure Team, the Association has been made aware of an illegal attack against the Bitcoin SV network. A malicious actor has recently been carrying out block re-organisation attacks on the Bitcoin SV network, which appear to be intentional acts in an effort to illegally
punkman: double-spend coins."
asciilifeform: 'illegally double-spend coins' << lol!
asciilifeform: why bother with 'blockchain'(tm)(r)(c)(x)(y)(z) at all!!11 simply have errybody mail in tx and prosecute illegal!! double spenders!
asciilifeform: lol i somehow missed this phork existing. gotta distill out & dump those phree shitcoins (is there still where?)
asciilifeform: 'Switzerland-based global industry organisation' << hearn?!
asciilifeform: ... some serious 'deja vu' there.
punkman: "If you haven’t heard already, the term zero-confirmation (0-conf) has been buzzing around the Bitcoin community lately. 0-conf, however, is more than just a buzzword. It’s the future of cryptocurrency-related transactions"
punkman: someone wrote this... in 2018. ffs.
punkman: oh and this is not even the first time they've been raped with double-spends.
punkman ON BEHALF OF DR CRAIG WRIGHT
punkman: TO RECOVER £3.5BILLION WORTH OF BITCOIN"
punkman: I guess David Kleiman made sure the tard had no access to coins
punkman: god bless and rest in peace
punkman: "After claiming ownership of the BTC contained in the 1Feex address — which received funds stolen from Mt. Gox — Wright was presented with a legal notice from a law firm representing Danny Brewster, a victim of the Mt. Gox exchange hack."
shinohai: The derp has claimed to own several addresses he doesn't, remember these lulz? https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-called-fraud-message-signed-bitcoin-addresses-satoshi
punkman: shinohai, read about that earlier, but I haven't managed to see this allegedly signed message
shinohai: There was a whole list of 'em somewhere.
whaack: asciilifeform: Do you have a link handy listing what changes need to be made to your python log bot so it can connect to dulap?
punkman: "Wright also choked up on the stand and told the court he invented Bitcoin for the millions of unbanked global citizens but not for criminal activity. Wright insisted that things like the Silk Road, Hydra, and trading illicit goods made him “ashamed” of his invention."
punkman: I wonder if anyone that knew Kleiman has shared any interesting tidbits
punkman: "JVP: Dave Kleiman was an exceptional man. If you want to know more about Dave, you should talk to the SANSfolks. One of the top SANS people is also having a conference in Las Vegas in September, where the Trustee of the Tulip Trust is expected to appear."
punkman: " his plan is backed by a very rich hedge fund willing to cover the cost of the search and the equipment involved in exchange for the lion’s share of his fortune."
punkman: "Despite having a plan, Howells said that the Newport City Council would not let him search the landfill, even after he offered them £55 million"
whaack: asciilifeform: I tried issuing the command' send("PASS %s\r\n" % SPass)' where SPASS is the FG baud rate set in the conf file, no luck
whaack: i put that line before the nick/user authentication as well
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 20:12:41 whaack: asciilifeform: Do you have a link handy listing what changes need to be made to your python log bot so it can connect to dulap?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-16 13:46:57 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-06-16#1039439 << i had to commit this kludge warcrime to get the bot to talk to 'unreal irc'.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-10#1044809 << when asciilifeform was a boy and read about alchemists of 14th-18th c., was astonished that anyone would have claimed to possess 'philosopher's stone' while knowing how such 'possessors' typically ended up (in chains, in oubliette, 'until the fucker gives the seekrit') ; but seems like some of these could not resist to
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 19:52:03 shinohai: The derp has claimed to own several addresses he doesn't, remember these lulz? https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-called-fraud-message-signed-bitcoin-addresses-satoshi
asciilifeform: 'craigwright', to borrow against 'future gold', to pump up 'pr'.
punkman: Kleiman sucking Wright's cock https://seclists.org/basics/2008/Mar/147
asciilifeform: (rather 'xerxes whipping the sea')
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-10#1044821 << plz read carefully the linked patch. ( sadly it is intimately specific kludge to 'unreal' and the chance of it working elsewhere is ~0)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 21:11:16 whaack: asciilifeform: I tried issuing the command' send("PASS %s\r\n" % SPass)' where SPASS is the FG baud rate set in the conf file, no luck
punkman: seems like Kleiman and Wright were both obsessed with certifications
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-10#1044820 << i suspect more banal reason for the refusal (perhaps e.g. > £55m worth of cu hypothetically in there)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 20:40:58 punkman: "Despite having a plan, Howells said that the Newport City Council would not let him search the landfill, even after he offered them £55 million"
asciilifeform: punkman: who's kleiman again ?
punkman: guy who might have been Satoshi
asciilifeform lost count of these 'might've beens'
punkman: although I suspect he might just be early miner
punkman: he was a winblows expert
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's favourite shitoshi is still szabo
punkman: Wright: " This post goes to those cowards who sit behind anonymity on the web and cast doubt and aspersions about people whilst
punkman: hiding. I note that most defamatory comments are anonymous. Cowards!" and "Or is the "bitch" that I am a member of the Uniting Church (and a trustee of the church) and also have qualifications
punkman: in religion? Does being a casual pastor and planned deacon make it such that my IT degrees means less?"
punkman: what's a casual pastor
asciilifeform: punkman: asciilifeform: is old enuff to remember the scientology lawsuits against penet.fi
signpost: punkman: sounds like a question for dpb
asciilifeform: wb signpost
signpost: I assume it has something to do with smoking blunts between casual mentions of the end times
signpost: evening asciilifeform
signpost just returned from a tour through rural new england, had a great time.
asciilifeform: signpost: asciilifeform sweated out a lengthy (i suspect actual program may end up shorter..!) hypertext spec for (draft name) 'pestis', the p2p p2p 'final solution' to irc. still needs massage tho.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-10 17:45:07 asciilifeform: while writing ('1 step forward, 2 steps back', i add 10kB and then 'too long.. cut!') realized : the 'spanning tree protocol' was the 'great invention' that in fact fucked the original p2p-icity of arpanet! and continues to fuck today!
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-09 18:06:24 asciilifeform: algo is almost insultingly simple imho
asciilifeform: grr fucked that link didn't i
asciilifeform: anyways
signpost: ah, very cool!
signpost still needs to eat much log, will catch up fully tomorrow
asciilifeform hasn't put much re: subj in the log, saved it for the 'rfc'
signpost: in either case looking forward to the read
asciilifeform loox fwd to publishing & reading comments
asciilifeform: this is a rather odd document, spec just about detailed enuff to 'be the proggy', and with rationales for all moving parts
asciilifeform does not habitually write such things, hence slow
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