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snsabot: Logged on 2020-02-05 15:57:47 asciilifeform: notices that it's still in the #a feed. spyked , when you have time, plox to drop that rss from #a, ty
asciilifeform: ty spyked
asciilifeform: whatcha working on these days, spyked ? ( last i knew -- jfw's linux ? )
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere mod6
snsabot: mod6 last seen in #trilema on 2020-02-04 03:56:25: understood.
asciilifeform: mod6: not long ago i went to make a local mirror of your trb set, and found that it dun press -- seems that you never reground mod6_excise_hash_truncation.vpatch for keccak ??
asciilifeform: mod6: i was gonna regrind 'who-gave' and harmonize w/ the current official mod6 set, but nao wat.
mod6: Hi there asciilifeform. As far as mod6_excise_hash_trucation.vpatch (that I originally for ben_vulpes' original post) needs it again, yes. jfw asked about a few of these in the pipeline here:
snsabot: (trilema) 2020-02-03 jfw: mod6: glad to see progress on the keccak tree. I intend to take a look at the patches and try a build, might not be for a while though. What I'm not seeing though: what is the status of asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks, mod6_excise_hash_truncation, asciilifeform_whogaveblox and mod6_phexdigit_fix ?
asciilifeform: ohai mod6 . so that 1 not reground yet ?
mod6: It's a pretty short read. But the short version is; asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks is in the main tree, that one was asked about in error.
asciilifeform: atm the tree can only press to mod6_manifest.vpatch
mod6: But the other three: mod6_excise_hash_truncation, asciilifeform_whogaveblox and mod6_phexdigit_fix are going to be reground by me this month and placed into the TRB main tree.
mod6: (unless a serious objection occurs from somewhere).
mod6: <@asciilifeform> atm the tree can only press to mod6_manifest.vpatch << yes, which should include asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.
asciilifeform: mod6: the other issue is, mod6_manifest.vpatch presumes an empty (previously nonexistend) manifest file
asciilifeform: *nonexistent
mod6: there has been no manifest in the main tree, no. so yes, empty, nonexistant.
mod6: Do you have one there?
asciilifeform: mod6_exercise_hash_truncation created one (and with all prev. patches listed)
mod6: ah, yeah, that'll have to be re-worked.
asciilifeform: mod6: plox lemme know when you have these reground, i'd like to regrind 'whogave' to align.
asciilifeform: ( my intent is to post a 'this is the trb i run' page, updated regularly, w/ patches, signatures, & commentary )
mod6: Ok, will announce when they're ready.
asciilifeform: ty mod6 !
mod6: Now, I'm going to regrind 'whogave', is that separate from what you are going to do? Are you going to add/subtract something else from the vpatch as it currently stands/
mod6: Or is it your preference to regrind your own vpatch? Just don't want to duplicate work.
asciilifeform: mod6: iirc no one but me is using atm 'who-gave', so i'ma regrind it.
mod6: im using it, in test.
mod6: has been for sometime now. Haven't encountered any issues as of yet.
mod6: But thanks for the Q's!
asciilifeform: then welcome to go ahead & regrind w/ the others, if it is a candidate for mod6's official set. in either case i'ma sign the patches that are in use on my nodes, and post the sigs (w/ links to orig. publication on ml)
mod6: I'll probably working on these here sometime soon, next week or so. If you're up to it, would really apprecaite some test-pressing / compiling of the full TRB tree once these three are added it to it.
asciilifeform: mod6: will absolutely test yours.
mod6: asciilifeform: cool, tyvm. :]
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asciilifeform: holyfuq payroll somewhere on paypal?! lol
shinohai: Hilarious.
shinohai: Nice to see trb discussion in here as well. /me feels nostalgic for 2015-6
asciilifeform: shinohai: imho trb is actually 1 of those rare cases where a software is reasonably close to 'leave it the fuck alone'.
asciilifeform: imho major changes (e.g. rewritten db) oughta live as new vtree and clearly marked as new, rather than 'reference', item.
asciilifeform: fwiw i'ma make my personal trb tree perma-available (incl. any future experimental patches) on own hosting resources. cuz the current situation, where asciilifeform in fact published most of the thing to begin with, but aint hosting it anywhere, is unseemly.
shinohai: I have mirror as well, need to upload the "experimental" patches.
asciilifeform: shinohai: all trb users really oughta have a page where ~their~ particular build is made public & commented.
asciilifeform: not necessarily 'here are all possible trb i know of' but at least yer own, such as you use in battlefield.
shinohai: <<< mine, for reference, contains archive of old sha512, patches are the ones mod6 and I tested last
shinohai: Will, of course, add asciilifeform 's seals when he signs keccak tree.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i'ma post these & the rest once mod6 returns w/ the tail-end regrind discussed earlier
asciilifeform: ( would rather not have to re-do it )
shinohai: Understandable.
asciilifeform: ( specifically, if he comes back w/ a regrind where each patch adds the appropriate note to the manifest, rather than all in one, i'ma respect it & sign ~that~ , after verifying that errything else (save for that uniturd byte in genesis) matches the historic tree
asciilifeform: shinohai: ftr i'm not nostalgic for trb circa '15-'16 -- thing barely worked (memory guzzling, compounded by the round-the-clock ddos of the net during that era, and took a good bit of sweat to fix)
asciilifeform: today thing runs (at least, mine, but from appearances all of the public nodes) w/out handholding. haven't noticed a day+ wedge since 'aggression' on mine.
asciilifeform: there's some minor knobs that folx came up with (privkey-eater, rawrx-eater, etc) that i'd like to have, and will eat once i get a chance. but i dun anticipate any 'breakthrough' change re basic function of classical trb appearing
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