BingoBoingo: See http://billymg.com/2020/01/embedded-vpatch-formatting-for-mp-wp-draft-vpatch-for-review/
mod6: Ok, I saw this in January, I may need to re-read it, but on first pass I didn't gather that this would do what I needed it to do.
BingoBoingo: Maybe not all of it, but with the lobbes bot that logs into mp-wp, there's space
lobbes: if I ever get the mp-wp logger complete.. well it interfaces with the mp-wp database already so theoretically possible to hook that up to what billymg is doing down the road
lobbes: BingoBoingo, aha
mod6: Ah, alright. Maybe that's it, just a few moving parts here.
jfw: "It puts it on me to chase these down" - this seems to be the core of it; why not leave it to the sponsor(s) of a patch to keep their blogs online & organized enough to find patches (category, code shelf or whatnot)? It's then, what, couple clicks per patch or a wget to import to your own collection - trivial compared to the effort of actually reviewing the patch I'd imagine
mod6: jfw: aside from a possible mp-wp (future) solution to the issue; several clicks notwithstanding, I mearly worry that somehow, the gardener may simply overlook or miss one.
mod6: Anyway, sounds like there might be a solution to this between what billymg and lobbes are working on + maybe another added step?
mod6: All I'm saying, is that without said possible future solution, it may be somewhat difficult to track through 39 different blogs watching for patch submissions all the time.
jfw: perhaps a comment thread on your own blog where someone proposing a patch can "officially submit" it?
mod6: But again, if there is going to be a future solution for this in the form of some kind of existing bot extention, then I'm all for that. At least it would, presumably, notify the gardener (somehow) that there is something to inspect.
mod6: jfw: This might be fine, but what if I'm not the guy? Meaning, let's say that there are threads on my blog, people publish stuff in the comments, or wherever on there, i dunno, pingbacks somehow. If someone else takes over, I get hit by a bus, blog goes bye bye from non-payment, what happens to thread on new guys blog?
mod6: I suppose the foundation should maybe have its own blog then.
mod6: (I appreciate this discussion, fwiw.)
jfw: Or new maintainer starts new thread, and someone puts up an archive of your blog assuming anyone cared enough to keep one
mod6: I suppose that's fair.
jfw: as always, keeping information alive requires live people to do it
mircea_popescu: i don't get the logic whereby anything is ~wanted~ of someone who "disappeared completely"
mod6: hi mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: what, they're such impervious snowflakes their deeds overwhelm their existence, is the fantasy ?
mircea_popescu: if some shit someone vomited that nobody could be arsed to mirror disappears, this is a great and wonderful gain for everyone.
mod6: Yeah, not that we would want stuff from nonpersons, just in the case where, as we've seen recently (even with my own blog) where it was down for a few weeks, or months as people are between hosting or such.
mircea_popescu: mod6, there's a bunch of code shelves you might end up on, if you do the right and proper things.
mod6: Right on.
mod6: I like this better than mirrors too, as it seems that those always tend to disappear or end up way out of date without explanation.
mircea_popescu: i really don't think the known failures of the "engineer" mindset need any encouragement. this whole "i'll overwhelm my horrible idiocy with supposedly worthy deeds" nonsense has little space left to frolic in.
mircea_popescu: so do not ye worry "the gardener may miss one". really, the walflowers aren't even worth pissing on if they were on fire.
mod6: haha, ok.
jfw: observe for instance how the gardener nearly missed a couple patches anyway but I poked, not even being a signer of any as yet
mod6: I appreciate the poking re things TRB.
mod6: Alright gents, I'm gonna go make some food here. bbl.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-03#1957857 << two problems. firstly, how about you just use the rss feeds / feedbot for this purpose. and if you're unhappy with the waterhose, ask the people who do it to maybe make a special category or tag ? and if they don't, consider that maybe this means ~[http://thewhet.net/2020/02/the-basilikon-doron-or-royal-gift-a-constitutional/?b=Assume%20problems&e=head#select][you
mircea_popescu: ]~ are in the wrong.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-03 20:22:10 mod6: All I'm saying, is that without said possible future solution, it may be somewhat difficult to track through 39 different blogs watching for patch submissions all the time.
mircea_popescu: and secondly, the rpublic isn't intended to work this way. you're supposed to hear about the patches you hear about. you aren't happy with the patches you hear about, make better friends.
mircea_popescu: this imaginary self-situation in the seat of god where lo and behold you'll somehow see all patches... what the fuck do you think this is, the github flatlands ?
mircea_popescu: ain't gonna ever happen, the republic's the republic for reasons.
mircea_popescu: but in general, if you can't be arsed to read my blog, you're cordially invited to get the fuck lost and in no case pretend like you're using my patches.
mircea_popescu: where "me" is just about a wildcard, it stands for "anyone" because that's what the fuck "no separation from politics" means.
mircea_popescu: pick some people you actually care about, and connect with those. stop trying to shinohai yourself the imaginary world of where you've wrung the persons out of their deeds, and now looky there's just this pile of hallucinated freedom for you to wither atop of.
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mod6: mircea_popescu: re: rss feeds & feedbot; will check it out. sounds like a good way to stay abreast.
mircea_popescu: so given bvt's recent and indeed quite shiny work on a new v : is there any interest in actually attempting something like the new clearsign scheme ?
mircea_popescu: there's a lenghty pile of disadvantages to the current mechanism we use, not least of these being that it actually imports koch-pgp. it also does suspect signature shenanigans of all sorts, which could potentially present security risks
mircea_popescu: re-writing the signature part starting with say diana_coman 's eucrypt could give us a chance to ditch all the warts of a very usgistani past, and even maybe implement PSS or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: ditch the shitty hashes stick to keccak (which is particularly well fit for this job, as it happens), ditch the bad parameters use something convenient (why are keys 4096 bits and the hash 128 ?)
hanbot_abroad: mircea_popescu i managed to get a comment into your mod queue
mircea_popescu: probably because you're a bad seed.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in 2010-vintage romanian free love, http://archive.is/gybYM (16 yo gypsy alpha raped 10yo visiting girly in school toilet. anal. then zipped up, went back to playing ball.)
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