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(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: also, don't bang head alone for that long - come in here and someone will bang your head for you if needed - or otherwise help you out way faster, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-29#1014265 - possibly it gets confused by those < < that remained as such, try making them &lt; since you do that for the rest anyway, right?
(trinque) diana_coman: ahaha, yes, they are ~all universities of great concern.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: beliefs may be cuddly and warm but they will fuck you quite predictably ~all times in the end.
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: I'll take some more time to digest both the article and the comment.
(trilema) diana_coman: whaack: that's naive at best, indeed.
(trilema) diana_coman: whaack: wtf's "the cultural aspect of a (present day) more niche language" ?
(trilema) diana_coman: re paster though tbh this attempt (coming as it does on top of the previous mess with python and its flask) left me looking again for not using either.
(trilema) diana_coman: ahaha, by now I see that trinque will measure everything in multiples of busybox.
(trilema) diana_coman: noted, thanks; basically so far it's have fun with python versions or fun with asdf version, lolz.
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: please do, thank you.
(trilema) diana_coman: whaack: what version of asdf did you get to work with all the rest anyway?
(trilema) diana_coman: ... lisp code is that it pulls in the drakma http client that pulls in as far as I can see another 18 deps (and moreover so far one of them fails anyway on my current setup aka centos 6 with sbcl 1.0.39, asdf 2.26; but I see that whaack reports sbcl 1.4.14 working for the logbot so I'll try it next with that and see.)
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: I had a look at your published paster lisp code; my current understanding is that it's only a part of what's required to stand up a backup paste service though, isn't it? mind pointing me to the rest of the bits/a recipe to put it all together? I had this idea that it's saner to replicate at the very least the paste service and a mirrored wot website. My current understanding of that paster ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: that sort of tool is part of what I had in mind when last reviewing V use ; I didn't find yet the time to think it through fully so as to start getting it moving but it's certainly needed, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why not your own router?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: no, no need for bots to speak.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: is that your router or your landlord's router?
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: is the select thing not working on your blog? I'm trying to select that great "fits in hand" and I can't seem to, this doesn't do anything.
(trilema) diana_coman: ahaha, maybe that's why grub-"2", lolz.
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: I'm looking forward to that OS-related series.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: adlai: unsolicited advice is for writing on your own blog, not in here; do write in here when you have some unsolicited but useful work you want to showcase.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you'll have quite a nice article coming out of all this too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: not bad; do take & keep notes re networks' various requirements, as they will surely come in handy at a later time too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you'll have to keep me up to date on whatever CL does or does not do; I'm not all that into CL really (I enjoyed functional programming sometime ~15 years ago but even at that time it was more Scheme and Haskell than Lisp anyway); so make sure you communicate clearly on this, please.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: looks fine for a start, go ahead.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so then you should have said *that*; ok, run it with randomized and see on how many it fails, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, automate it but either it works unregistered for ~all or it has to be done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well yes, but if that doesn't work for all, then you'll still need to figure out how to register, right?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if in the end you *still* need to register a nick, what's the point in going now through connect-unregistered and then check fails and register?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: won't you need to register nicks anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: do you mean to iterate through the other networks?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: basically be more intelligently-lazy not stupidly-lazy :P
(ossasepia) diana_coman: easier != correct choice; for one thing indeed, you can't even truly know upfront for sure which one is easier and for the other, choose the right thing, not the easy thing, remember? (because "easy" in the moment has its own mid/long term costs really so there's no "easy" like that, no).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: see, you do know how to choose; you just need to actually... choose to choose :P
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: quite right, you should have stuck with trying to do it with your bots, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's also not just "flip flopping between possible solutions without putting the effort to see one through to the end"; it's mainly and firstly about *how you choose* which solution to try and for how long, that's the important part.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: certainly; but that example you give is quite a different sort (and your solution even has a well-known historical name - the Gordian Knot, as solved by Alexander).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if anything, the optimisation should be about return (gain/effort), not about min(effort) even assuming that you evaluate that min(effort) properly in the first place.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: heh; listen, don't just go like that after "what seems easier"; at the very least bounce off the idea in here, can't hurt.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: also, I don't get how is it that the logbot doesn't have to issue commands; at the very least it has to issue "/join #chan" , doesn't it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and yes, it tends to end up in this sort of back and forth over however many alternative "it might be easier" approaches you can imagine, with the overall net result that you spend actually more time and still have 0 to show for it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ugh, ditching a problem because "that might be easier" is not a sound approach.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if you have a bot that will connect to the network to join channels 1-100, then that same bot can first simply connect and get the list.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and moreover, one of your bots can do that since it will have to connect to a network anyway, I don't see how is this different.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: isn't that file the logfile anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that's the main issue with scrapping that: it's from a secondary source while direct source is entirely available so there has to be a very good reason for ditching direct source really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I don't know how reliable/up to date the list on netsplit.de is and/or whether complete.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what do you mean by "format the output into files"?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: you should add that talk re http://dorion-mode.com/2019/12/some-reasons-contributing-to-tmsr-os-is-ev/ to the comments there, where it belongs.
(trilema) diana_coman: yeah, he tried there for higher than he realised; had a talk with him on that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: it might be more important to actually take regular breaks for that matter; every hour move away, that sort of thing.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you can wear it around your neck from the images I saw at the link you gave - maybe that's the idea? :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I can see that angle tbh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so then give it some adjusting time and/or try to make the change more gradual if possible.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: maybe it's just the change of pattern exactly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw I haven't / don't have this sort of problem and I'm not even using any extraordinary keyboard.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: figure out what's the cause and make the needed changes, don't just basically train to stop noticing it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: hm, if you just take a break and then get back to doing precisely the same thing, that's not "if it hurts, stop doing it".
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: there are some exercises against carpal tunnel syndrome, you might want to look those up; but at any rate, if it hurts...stop doing it, you know? find what works for you there, keyboard and setup included.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: don't you need one at all otherwise?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: maybe get/print a map, you know? I'm sure you can even find one online or something.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it can take a while to get familiar with that whole other world indeed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, quite as it goes indeed; good to hear it, too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: btw, how's the 2nd read of the odyssey compared to the 1st?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sounds good to me.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm; if it's the same by mid/end-January, it will have to be looked at as well; but ok for now.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: but why not?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what's on your reading list/do you still get to read other than yesterday's sort of had-to-re-read session?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: we'll review it at the end of next week.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the publishing happens every other day; meaning: you can actually spend 5 hours of writing one single article if you really find you must, except those 5 hours will be spread over 2 days and eating up the Spanish.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm, so 1.5 hours that should have been on previous days and otherwise 5 hours instead of 1.5 on writing; do the 1.5 or max 2.5 instead of Spanish today but you can get back to it tomorrow ie publish every other day.
(trilema) diana_coman: !!v 0598B883206898A6CDF15E20979BDD3E9730D84DA003E1E5145F4BF7C29EA691
(trilema) diana_coman: !!v 2AFB7EA3949B06F57B728E4D35D1CE064791A98C3E5132FC3FB21845CDF7876B
(trilema) diana_coman: !!v F124CF5A90FF11EC662CCDEB3C33B22C442DE5311A92A096D8E2AA03EDD36189
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: according to your current plan, there are already 8hr45 minutes on TheFleet today so there is no point in making it more than that really; just keep with the 1.5hour on writing or if you really must let it spill over, let it be into the 1 hour of Spanish and certainly not more than that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: how long did you spend on that article?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: it's "disassemble" really; I wrote it separate to highlight just why it's that one the word you need rather than "dissemble", that's all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: now go and enjoy your choice, there's nothing more to do here.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: totally how you imagine it goes, yes. And so how you'll fit your narrative to fit because that's what you do.
(trilema) diana_coman: !!v DC810768CF6BB492BF848A933D736A77B5476FB1C5B40031735ACCDD38DC1942
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: neah; you are using my very words to describe what "you" meanwhile decided is something else because that's totally how it goes; next you'll soon find out I'm evil too, just wait a few minutes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-26#1014058 - all right, silence works perfectly fine as "yes"; hope you'll enjoy whatever comes out of this choice of yours.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (and absolutely not at all related to ego either in any way because that would also not agree with the image you can live with, sure.)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: nor convenience, no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: this lack of place is also not sidelining because that wouldn't be nice and doesn't agree with your own view of yourself and therefore sure, NOT SIDELINING!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes, in your suddenly very busy schedule, there's no place or meaning for pesky me because of course; and sure, there wasn't any space all the way since the moment you got out just enough to be able to find the next hole at a higher comfort level but that's also fine because really, there is NO LINK between what you found useful and what you are not all that comfortable with, no, can't possibly be.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: eh, you can go on changing the meaning of words to suit you forever.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: what do you imagine you are doing then when "oh, thank you for this time but now I'm busy"?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it was fine while it was good and it's suddenly in the way when it's not good; the very definition of convenience, no matter what else you prefer to think.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sidelining part of what helped you get into that position in the first place IS CONVENIENCE.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: anyway, just this question: are you sure you now want to precisely fuck off? Say simply yes and we're done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you can't explain that because it's simply not the case and quite plainly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'm listening then for the answers to the questions I already asked.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: just with actually answering them? lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: do you have a problem now with me asking questions too?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: oh, *you* don't see any need for it, right.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: understand that if I had a problem with people's problems, I wouldn't be any good at helping anyone learn anything. Learning is pretty much overcoming all sorts of problems, yeah.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you know, you used those months of silence to work yourself up into knots really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: I never stated that necessary, you did.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: you know, for the same money you can "have a problem with the concept of gravity"; why do you think it's necessary that you don't have a problem with the concept of gravity? in general like that it's not even necessary really, you can choose to have a problem with anything you want; but realise that it doe NOT change what is, nor does it do anything other than give you more trouble in the long term, that's all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: you haven't answered any of my questions.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: hm? necessary for what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and how is it not convenient to ditch the previous promise that you'll get to work come Christmas?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: really; so enlighten me: what is it due to?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the "whatever efforts undertaken" amounted to little less than 0, do you realise? sure, with sincerity, as all those sort of good intentions for as long as convenient tend to go.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: what do you think that problem is?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I can't even say that I see some way to undo at all but whatevers, never say never and all that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you can walk away from this but you don't get to dress it up as anything other than what it is and make sure you fully get that it's not a choice to easily undo at a later time when more convenient or whatever else.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: neah, it was that I had your full attention and efforts only in theory only in reverence of the words-only-type and only for as long as it was convenient to you, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: if you are indeed sure that this is not about your ego and not-liking-hierarchy and all that jazz (that got you already in trouble before and will do it again, predictably) and if you are indeed sure that your efforts truly need to be forever elsewhere, then I'll write you off entirely, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-18#1002986 "as of today" and just about until you're out of trouble, right?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, if you don't update it then your end of week review should note you failed to deliver what you promised and as a basic consequence, next week there's no guitar and no surfing and no spanish; easy.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why didn't you update the plan though when it turned out you got a preassembled box instead of components?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, more time for that; works.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: anyways, since pc assembly takes a break, what makes it to be done instead of it from the "time permitting" list?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha; at time you might even want to "undo" simply for practice & check, esp on things you do for the first time; it's up to you when/if/how much of this you do, but allow yourself *the option* to do it if you want/need to.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: does the above make sense?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: because mistakes can happen.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: also, as a basic engineering rule, for everything you plan to apply/assemble, you should have from starters everything required for the removal/disassemble really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: granted, not every month or something, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: not to mention that in time you'll need to disassemble and reapply anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: once you saw it was assembled though.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, you might still find out there's more to it than you thought but cleaning the thermal paste is not a surprise in any way, ahem.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: as a basic rule, whenever you plan to do something, the first step should be to figure out what you need as tools & consumables & working area.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol; at the very least some compressed air canisters, some 99% isopropyl alcohol for your cleaning of thermal paste, lint-free cloths.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: btw, do you have otherwise what you need to keep your computer(s) clean?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as BingoBoingo says really; whaack just the cloth is not enough, you need some 90%+ alcohol really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you should clean it off properly, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what did you remove it with?
(trilema) diana_coman: hah, craptice indeed
(trilema) diana_coman: makes sense; I'll get to it later today.
(trilema) diana_coman: in principle, yes :D
(trilema) diana_coman: and #eulora...
(trilema) diana_coman: tbh I kept pondering what *should* be in there to start with; on one hand it would make sense to have #trilema + deeded chans really; onth dunno, I'd want #trinque for instance and he hasn't asked for a deed, so uhm.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: do you mean #asciilifeform or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: also, dissemble != disassemble ffs; dissembling computers is what pcgamingcr has been doing apparently, hopefully you don't intend to follow in their footsteps now; stop dissembling (even computers!) and start dis-assembling, will you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: lol @ the morphing parts, it's the "our best effort when we feel like it" approach there at gamingpc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: what do you think that will do? why not do something now while you are here?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: and you know, if you are looking at tmsr-os, you are in the right place; however, if you want to do more than just look forever, you'll have to speak up, ask and learn.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: do you realise you *need* an identity as a pre-requisite for *everything* around here?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: noted and thank you!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: I suspect this was a local flavour of mess-up really, nothign to do with customs as such.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: so are you getting interested in what matters, then?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: did you check in the end that all parts are at least precisely what you ordered?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and I guess you can press with a "if not manuals then it's 2nd hand so you take it back and refund me" or similar.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: kind of hard to actually know now; you can still ask them to ship to you the manuals because they should have them if new.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so then get the refund and be done with them; hurray for mothers everywhere otherwise :P
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: it's up to you really ie what do you want exactly as resolution to this mess?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: iirc hanbot said she always picked the stuff up so possibly that's really ~the only way to avoid such mess in cr.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: did you ask them now to ship whatever kbd and mouse? their "backorder" or whatevers is not your problem after all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: it does sound very hard to believe they don't have *any* mouse and keyboard, for sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what a mess; apparently in cr you either go to the shop or otherwise have a ton of trouble; what do they say about the missing parts, are you meant to wait indefinitely or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-25#1013922 - this is militant ignorance speaking; the fact that it's not "interesting to you" means simply that you are totally clueless atm; it is *important* and therefore you should *get interested*, not derp about that oh noez, not interesting to me atm, as if you were some measure of interestingness in this world.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: there's the guide written for Eulora - you may still find useful the key generation + registration part. But seriously, you are way better off asking for stuff to do than silently hanging around. What is *not* sci-fi to you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-25#1013918 - so why didn't you simply ask, you know? don't you *want* to find stuff out?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: re data, if the bot spits it out directly to db, you might even get away with cleaning in sql directly or something; you'll still find R useful afterwards for processing.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: why won't you register a key with deedbot anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: http://ztkfg.com/2019/12/thefleet-a-systematic-exploration-of-the-irc-space/#comment-136 - it's all in there really but in short, automated processing & filtering first.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: EOD sounds good, I'll read the article later today too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and Merry Christmas everyone!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I can see what you mean; there are some differences in this case though too :) but I think laying out the shape of such work as you see it would be very useful indeed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: sounds good; I'll read it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ha, forgot lobbes ^
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I should add I suppose that Popper is more of a historian of science rather than philosopher in a classical sense; so perhaps not as much starting on philosophy proper; still an easier introduction on that path I think.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, if you don't ack, how would one know you noticed? why didn't you simply say thank you there or something? ack is not only for me/here, obviously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter the recommendation holds for anyone else interested ( whaack jfw shrysr ?)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: btw, re Kant, if you just start reading philosophy, I recommend you start with Popper at least, it'll be both easier to follow and of more immediate interest to you I'd think.
(trilema) diana_coman: jfw: Keksum's 3rd genesis is now signed and mirrored; as you've gathered already the previous comments on your article directly, I linked that and there's no need that I see for an additional article; also, you messed up something with your Keksum's article title now.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: iirc there was something like /list directly; granted this was some... uhm, 15 years ago so if you are indeed sure that's all there is, I suppose you'll have to work around the idiocy.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the link for comments contains "page-bla" or similar.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: do take out the pagination of comments on your blog, it's useless and it even gets in the way (there's some setting from the dashboard, somewhere)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm, that was a bit too quick, Nemo_bis!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: btw have you seen http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-24#1956017 ? it was for you after all!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ie scrape the network list, sure but why chans?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why scrape the chans from netsplit.de though? doesn't each network have some cmd to get the full list?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: bvt: indeed; and at any rate, if the docs turn out to not be detailed and well-written enough for a fresh install, I'm sure jfw and dorion_road certainly want to hear about it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: bvt: I'd certainly read a review on building and installing gales; might even come in handy for when I finally get around to try it out too.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: lolz@keeping out commenters really.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: mike_c: you are always welcome to join and talk in #ossasepia.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: the side effects? lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: no worries.
(trilema) diana_coman: ftr, I wasn't either asking for or indeed expecting the sort of "this must be paid no matter what", no idea where you took that from.
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: dunno who do you think was hallucinating that GPG contracts = fiat contracts or something but sure/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ofc you have the right to speak in #trilema; you also have the responsibility to use it well and not talk nonsense, yes; but answering when spoken to comes under "use it well"; so yes, use that common sense, certainly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but you can ask him, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: I think he did mean lobbes's ebuilds article, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I'd be very glad to discuss with you the tmsr-os as business really and I quite want to know how you actually see it/what you have in mind currently about it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: re procrastination, we'll get to it but in a nutshell, it's precisely this the root of it; so yeah, I'm not at all surprised.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: also, your previous plan was supposedly to be updated with the actual times as you went but that part died on the 19th?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: mk, finish it whenever you finish it and I'll get to it perhaps some other time this week or next Monday.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-21#1955881 - fwiw, I read through this deed; I hope that is not all of "making the case" as BingoBoingo_ sees it.
(trilema) diana_coman: no idea on rabbity things.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: deadlines are not just some random hours either; now I had the time set out to read through all the plans and reviews and give feedback; yours is not there so guess what will happen?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: holiday is fine, planning for the week after next is fine again; being stupidly late like this is just stupid; being silent about it is idiotic; need I say more?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: where's your plan for this week?
(trilema) diana_coman: lolz, so Mocky's rabbit hole was more of a chicken coop?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: something is off there because by the sounds of it you end up with 2 major restructurings and so yes, you are again pushing towards the original overkill; I'll see tomorrow your review and hopefully it's clearly stated in there just what you are doing.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: hm; does the first review do much?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so what exactly are you spending on what ? because now it's confusing what exactly is taking that much time.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that IS snowballing too, it doesn't magically become something else just because it got sort-of-done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so then why exactly "rushing the proofread process"?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so take whatever steps you need to take to fix that, sure; also, ftr, if you find you need to adjust something, just say it + argue it, what's the trouble?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: and more to the point, it gets again back to your pebble - even at review time, do NOT throw your pebble! you need to read it with a. fresh mind precisely so you can stand a chance at evaluating if it's any good (not if it's bad-this-way-or-that-way) and b. unsympathetic mind (aka it's your enemy's text rather than your own)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you can much more easily and usefully enumerate what the text should be than all the possible ways in which it can fail to be
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what you are looking for is the opposite: is this sentence/para/text-so-far clear, relevant, any good (here the def is fuzzier, obv)?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: it goes the other way around (as it usually does): you are not to look for "a list of problems" because you can't possibly list them all anyway (sure, with experience, you can make a reasonable list of most-usual and that will be better than nothing but it won't be great reviewing, no)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: heh, when you look at some code, do you have a ready enumerable list of "problems I am looking to find"?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: when you proofread - what are you looking for?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: since you seem to be dependent on it rather than merely using it, yes, ditch it until you stop this nonsense.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: is this some sort of "if spellchecker did not complain then it's the right word" or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: how come you keep making this sort of mistake though?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: for some context1 and context2 because it's getting painful to read this sort of mistakes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: do you know the difference between intimated/intimidated, compromise/comprise?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: good; review+plan are also due today, right?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: how's that ebuilds write-up coming along?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, I see; lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: fine but before pushing buttons, inspect that all parts are in place and connected, you know? visual inspection is part 1 of assessing the darned thing esp when it's not what was expected.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: listen, set the new toy aside for a bit and decide first wtf are you going to do exactly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, you don't need to do a full detailed read right now, just to figure out what/where/how really so you can even know how to get to stuff /if it's in the right place anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: hopefully you know that even cases have some docs to help you figure out what/where/how if it's not obvious (I've seen some cases that can be rather puzzling indeed)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: did they actually assemble the computer or just stuff everything in the case ? those pictures are pretty terrible btw, can't see much.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: anyway, I think first step is to have a good look at what's in there + decide what are you going to do about it ; second step is anyway to call them.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: that you already have to pay anyway because you got something other than what you ordered and so there's more work to do, clearly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what sort of "on them" is it otherwise, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and no, if it's on them, it means specifically that *they pay* for it, not you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so you mean a shortcircuit? not sure why worry specifically about that though because from what you say, it might be that *nothing* is connected.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: now I realise I can't quite parse that frying-sentence; what is it, again?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, that's on *them*
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: knowing a bit re ticos, I would even be inclined to say they probably didn't think of it either, lol; but it's still the sort of very, very unhelpful help; the "good intentions" that make that road to hell basically.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: lol, if only they even had what to slip at all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and then you'll probably have to call them anyway, at the very least to give them a piece of wtf, have them send the manuals and explain just how does "those components" end up as "this 2nd hand machine you sent me" because seriously now, how do you even know it's new?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so ugh indeed, what a mess; I'd say turn it on and see what happens - if anything! (or possibly they even installed Windows!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: I meant the manuals for each component, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ugh, did you even get all the docs at least?
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