(trilema) ben_vulpes: bon voyage, etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cheers, BingoBoingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'la resistance' vanguard suffers a casualty: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-times-suspends-glenn-thrush-amid-sexual-harassment-allegations-2017-11
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lizards dun like it when you talk like that mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahahand in tangentially related hate speech: "assortative coupling on education level does have an unintended down side -- it's a major contributor to economic inequality in the larger society", from https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://makezine.com/2017/11/19/apology-to-naomi-wu/ << the self flagellation will continue until morale improves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also wtf, look at this inept shit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/11/20/sex-education-needs-graphic-teens-trying-taboo-practices-say/ "trying taboo practices", no link to original paper, what the hell am i even looking at
(trilema) ben_vulpes: usg dept of robocars cannot actually meet production quotas, chicken-buying-dollars will have to be spent with volvo of all corps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other lols, tesla failed to close the deal to supply uber with self-driving cars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spyked: i'll give your recipe a whirl later
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: attaching s-video out of aek to microcontroller, which makes a usb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736314 << done; chinesium multimeter showed itself to be completely broken, so repurposing svideo cable will have to wait. stuck on plasticrap for now...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other plagiaristic urls and magic profitz: https://www.btcbase.io/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "babbys first linux distro"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "whatever it is you're building" is "gentoo", and what goes into that is still a mystery to me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: makes elfs and everything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh i was just reading about that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: couldja sketch how this pill might work for me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't gcc itself count as a magic binturd?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i have one of those as well but also ew
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: what'd the lawyer say?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (gcc 4.9.4)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't really know how to apply your use flags to the creation of a new gentoo then. i do have an older gentoo box that is pretty faithful to the crapolade flags, has gcc but don't really have a map for making that produce a root fs that i can put on another box or what even the correct way to go about doing what i want to do
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, mistake was to stage3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more likely i made a mistake
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did that, but i believe that 5 snuck in from stage3. at the time i got loads of errors about 5 being present on the system in violation of use flag specification, attempted to purge but this did not result in a usable box somehow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "step 1: build a gentoo five years ago"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: republic really doesn't have repeatable steps for building a gentoo with gcc 4.9, does it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i couldn't find a stage3 with 4.9 on it when i needed it for this machine, and so got 'phuqed'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah i have now pissed upon this electrified fence as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey trinque do you still have that script for "infectious gentoo"? i might be able to get my old closet iron with 4.9 to build a respectable userland
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i tried recently to build a chroot with 4 from the machine with 5 to no avail
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the box that barfed uses gcc 5.4.0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mm i'll try that; gentoo wiki ada page said to make ADAFLAGS=${CFLAGS} ty jurov
(trilema) ben_vulpes: relevant barf from a failure to emerge 'dev-lang/gnat-gpl'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the very very funny event was the script from the adacore binstaller simply fails, and instructed me to check an empty log file
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not stuck yet, trying other things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay well *something* is compiling on my closet iron now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: likely has to do with that this box is running gcc 5.4.0, i think i have to figure out how to make a gentoo with gcc 4.9
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tried both binturd from libre.adacore and a portage ebuild
(trilema) ben_vulpes: welp, completely struck out installing ada compiler tonight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: somehow i missed that alibaba is in the timesharing business
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: try chromium or firefox in headless mode
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dat nasty rag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one of the few mechanical pencils to not suffer from the retarded lead advancement while using eraser design flaw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has a very long barrel for leads, which is great for heavy writers or people who like hard leads like myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did the entire ME curriculum with the one on my desk, finally decided to get some backups.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mechanical pencil
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other wonderful old technology that is not made and barely findable any more, i cannot praise the sanford "logo ii" highly enough. the original "logo" is all right, but interestingly not quite as well made as its successor.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: thank you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what does (others => 0) mean in an assignation statement in p?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: le wik maintains that baton rouge event did have a cophunter in attendance
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not saying don't, i'm just being wistful about an america i never knew!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i absolutely understand this, asciilifeform .
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelolted: http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/detroit-police-officers-fight-each-other-in-undercover-op-gone-wrong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mm mhm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, but apparently it did not hit?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to take the other side for half a second, who says that i can't charge whomever i want whatever i want for services?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't see anyone contesting that it's not income
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the refusal to accept that they're just playing a different lotto is so tasty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anti-flirt brigade doing what it does
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other well-trained children, $child just attempted to put himself down for a nap in the comfy chair in my office
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it's a penis!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pantsuit self-purge of thought criminals continues: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article185207928.html
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol argentina had a submarine?! https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/17/world/americas/argentina-submarine-missing.html
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hmac blunder also epic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: use more null-cipher cryptosuites: https://auth0.com/blog/critical-vulnerabilities-in-json-web-token-libraries/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734752 << forgot to mention: unholy piles of sql too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but bbl, off to do some social soldering
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm in for 2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neato BingoBoingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there some 'color revolution' subtext to it as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what does 'blue' indicate here?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > allergic to notion of nato reich
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > libre
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brain must have cooked through at burning man
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i cannot fathom the confusion of ideas that would lead someone to say such a thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > This is our watch: keep nazis off decentralize uncensorable platforms!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > Attempting to make it culturally and socially impossible for neonazis to migrate to the Etherum platform is, in my opinion, necessary for its survival. We cannot censor, but we can and must fight on every other level to dissuade these people from colonizing our utopian efforts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no troo pantsuit!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but it couldn't happen, pantsuit tools clearly can only ever be used by them against their enemies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, the anti-flirt brigade brought a democrat down today; "al franken"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tmsr as higher power of last resort
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a surprising turning point, gabriel_laddel actually taking instruction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: who has a phone book tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reminds me, i have my own willful violation of patient privacy case to get the ball rolling on
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably ^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i have no idea what eldritch magick the stanford lawyer brigade has worked up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, show up with a crazy story, get a bunch of crazy questions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because still on parental plan and they work at the department of bezzletronic edumacation ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, does your insurance somehow only cover the stanford hospital?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scuse me, "teaching hospital"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i wonder if there's some "we're a learning hospital, might kill ya, gonna bill ya" going on
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a pretty novice anaesthesia mistake
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how did you even come to fall off the roof, dude?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: take yr soma, citizen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: helm is definitely that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, that part
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://wookie.lyonbros.com/ comes to mind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tanks rolling, fiat crashing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: goes on to suggest usd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in literal zimbabweisms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/business/2017-11-15-bitcoin-surges-in-zimbabwe-after-military-seize-power/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quit drivin on the sidewalls girl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bb has a mentee i think?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is she buying really really really used tires? spares only?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: transracialism is a thing!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw google makes their robotranscripts available over http
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737405 << currently working the 4th permutation of a 65536 byte message for a 32 bit hash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: absolutely, have a benchmarking in place, will be implementing those two changes and recording improvements
(trilema) ben_vulpes: suresure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in ancients, dusted off mpfhf benchmarker, finished the bit-banging of inputs, fired off a run late last week that is *still hashing*
(trilema) ben_vulpes made some headway through lisp in small pieces, mind appropriately blown
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736892 << some years ago, several people got together and worked through 'an incremental approach to compiler construction', one nick fitzgerald worked through it in ada: https://github.com/fitzgen/ada-scheme
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol well ratelimiting appears to work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you want expt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (mpfhf::mpfhf #*1111 4)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (mpfhf::mpfhf #*1111 4)
(trilema) ben_vulpes baffled by the sudden breakage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i'm looking into it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how did this work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: possible, but candi's the only node so affected
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: bot thinks its up, nothing shows in logs, uses precisely same stack i have running elsewhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ftr i have nfi what kills the thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: messy, but hey at least visually inspectable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not complicated enough to survive in the brave new world.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: woulda been cool tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: negative
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ps2, the depths of my golden era hardware ignorance knows no plumb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aok gotcha ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: off the shelf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let me know if you recall with what to look up this ots part
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yup, going to have some fun pulling the thing apart.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'iMate'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "desktop bus"*
(trilema) ben_vulpes extracted a apple extended keyboard ii from the parental domus this morning, only to find that a) the capslock key has a physical lock and b) apparently needs some nutty 'teensy' micro to turn the ancient proprietary 'apple device bus' serial format into usb; and turning it into serial is apparently Just Not Done
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gcc 5?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: related: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/us/air-force-academy-racist-message-trnd/index.html
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ~"you matter, and what happened to you is important"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: allll you gotta do is find a further out-there minority or 'oppressed person', and everyone will race to validate their lived experience. trend has been towards this for years, don't know how you don't see it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/11/09/twitter-halts-verification-over-checkmark-charlottesville-rally-organizer/848314001/ as a random sample
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "nice people only" or some such
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well they did give up on the verification play today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: times and wapo etc now quiver in fear of not being fast enough on the trigger with the allegations.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when the pantsuit controlled twitter and instagram, this might have been so
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reasoning from first principles is racist, etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dontcha know, asciilifeform ? demanding proof is just the patriarchy working to oppress women, keep their allegations quiet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quite definitely is about accusations, all one needs is a 'cleaning lady'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not even a matter of publishing dirt, wapo has decreed that actual dirt is immaterial, accusations are all that matter.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who would ever pay a dollar in ddos to cost someone ten, while on the topic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: promise from nobody worth nothing, promise backed by the republic worth more than anything dnc can ever offer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who would be dumb enough to blow btc emplacing $box at $location either
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah asciilifeform moar like "step forward with allegations against $senator, get btc if they withdraw. first 5 to <strike>draw on their tits</strike> get documented media exposure get a bitcent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clearly the women are winning!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha but ho damn also louis ck now purged from hollywoo as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now that the washington post has enshrined the notion that allegations are sufficient to disqualify candidates from races in america, how long d'you figure it'll take before the bitcoin bounties for allegations leading to exit of democrats from campaigns crops up?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only a terrorist would proposition a woman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i mean look what happens when you do propose! https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/pennsylvania-man-gouged-out-teens-eyes-and-broke-her-neck-when-she-refused-to-marry-him/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i don't remember that happening, so i'm pretty sure that it didn't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a, ok
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was that predicated on stopping in at the vintage museum?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haven't made it to seattle in quite some time, no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh sweet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and 'ns'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what means 'fep'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is "the cd"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (assuming they are source code)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds interesting, is that a commonly shared thing, the sources?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: genera/tape/Genera 5.2/Sources/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > simcity2000.sit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more of a tent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is not a table, that is finely spun chineseium
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't make the scytale an acceptable cipher
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neutral tits!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tetaneutral heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v C6181F2FC66C392C917F45AEF91C73BDF0CFF5E2D030A3D6BC3E760BA3618123
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!rate ang-st 1 apparently knows a good idea when he hears one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol see comments
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i absolutely understand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "and for as long as your citizens run free 802.* rebroadcasters, we're going to be utterly uninterdictable"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733631 << it occurred to me that the fortification model is entirely unsuited for war against the megastate. correct approach here is "we can deliver munitions anywhere within $city, even to a mobile individual."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good idea to do that sooner rather than later; provisional ratings are easy to come by for the newcomer who registers quickly, less so for the obstinate/self-important
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: anyways, the way this place works is that you register a gpg key with deedbot, and then maybe someone gives you provisional membership in the list of folks that can give themselves speaking privileges
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta say, i've never seen the perfect asshole
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > because its authors are who they are
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know, the sort of thing that web pages do normally, but that js idiots can't figure out how to do
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: where they show an image in the chat based on its link
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: per "slack group", ofc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: the other day i observed 'slack' fail to inline a 7.4 meg gif because its authors are who they are
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, you think electron isn't fifteen packaged browsers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: kinda exactly what i just said
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty amusing yeah?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh its some shambling modern browser monstrosity?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: top seekrit irc channels omg how speshul
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eyy davout what is this character going on about
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: you guess? based on...?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: link?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other "random conversations": https://mechanicalmarkets.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/bitcoin-nemo-dat/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: logs have historical grep
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ang-st: there are logs at http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema and btcbase.org/logs for the idling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who are you and what brings you by, ang-st ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up ang-st
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yes, this is 'leaking oil'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: predator and phriendz seem to work fine, so long as nobody's spoofing gps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: modern infantryman sits, pimply snowden, driving 'big dog' from same
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least in usg, "fighting readiness" is both sexist and racist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i don't know much, but i paid attention in materials and machine design while everyone else was browsing facebook and copying homework out of the solution guide"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or maybe just maybe have a care for the final product and take minimal steps to minimize pre-cooking out of volatiles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but what, give up, sacrifice all efficiency because there's always more gas down the road?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not really possible to exist without producing waste heat either
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also burr grinder does not cook the coffee while grinding it, ever notice how the bladed model leaves the grounds...warm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why, when the burr grinder is an excellent solution
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also vastly lower velocity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, blade pulverizes, burr shears. better extraction with the latter method.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a burr grinder has nested conical grinding faces; spacing between which controls ground finenes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah well yeah, especially the bladed models are going to produce lots of high velocity particles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the burrs are steel in mine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: housing, yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've been using https://www.amazon.com/bodum-antigua-electric-grinder-black/dp/b000vm08uo for at least a decade now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: salarymen and art critics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw this house came complete with cat5 in every room
(trilema) ben_vulpes: orc landlord also ain't gonna object to actual improvements.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pay commensurately less, get commensurately less.
(trilema) ben_vulpes would rather make terrible noises on the guitar than gentoo fucking houses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol mhm, just this month i had the gutters cleaned, various blinds replaced, wiring performed and all at zero cost to self
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chair not really burdened with pretentions of asset classhood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dunno why land ownership is such an important
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah not i
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol diameter of accountant
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great excuse to buy mega truck in saturated american market of mildly depreciated truck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean i'll drive a bit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know i have objected to skinny dipping more and more of late on the grounds that i will get cold and grumpy within five minutes so why don't you just strip and get in and i'll make a fire up here and catcall
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!reputation whaack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you don't say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i hear this layer is deeper elsewhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: where i'm from there's a layer of maybe 6 inches of warm water in the summer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform must have mondo bathtub with wavegenerator