lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740385 << thing is, if I wget the archive.is page with the -pk option on, I get turd-soup in many cases. For example, "wget -pk --user-agent="" -e robots=off --wait 1
http://archive.is/MiJ5U" yields a handful of .pngs and nothing else. Versus just wget-ing the actual trilema item with the same options yields a perfectly usable local copy
lobbes: And to boot, it seems that pointing wget at archive.is pages still doesn't capture the 'dynamic' content alf alluded to, such as the inline images found in archives of noose-sites like
http://archive.is/dIlCm
lobbes: Currently going down the headless-browser path ben_vulpes suggested. Looking into phantomjs atm, which seems like it could do the job. I have an old craptop I'm thinking of using as the proverbial 'public toilet' to house it on. (This is the same craptop I was planning to put a trb node on. I put a spanking-new ssd in there but then realized that the ethernet dun work anymore; wifi only. May be a good use for the thing to just be a turd server in
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 21:44 asciilifeform: as for capslock, there is a mod, you can remove the lock latch
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BingoBoingo: What an incredibly stablitit time to have converted 1 BTC to roll form
BingoBoingo: And the pantsuit purge expands: "John Draper, a legendary figure in the world of pre-digital phone hacking known as "phreaking," has been publicly accused of inappropriate sexual behavior going back nearly two decades."
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740645 << it's even funnier when you consider how deeply anachronistic it is. "we've decided TODAY shit that was acceptable yesterday shouldn't have been, so we're going to talk importantly about the people who did the acceptable thing of yesterday yesterday and how bad they are". dude... at least they DID SOMETHING. much unlike the schmucks derping about it today.
mircea_popescu: when's the last time someone who HASNT engaged in "inappropriate sexual behaviour" twenty years ago actually got laid ? that's what i wanna know.
mircea_popescu: no, sitting around derping about "the future, man" with a buncha self-professed "lesbians" (cuz its easier than admitting you're too lazy to put out) dun cunt. i mean count.
mircea_popescu: (apparently okcupid went full app-shit sometime in the interval also ?)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 13:55 mircea_popescu: scroll down to where it says CTO : mike_c
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (apparently okcupid went full app-shit sometime in the interval also ?) << The website has increasingly little to hook, and is increasingly poorly populated. Last week Uruguay had 4 girls, now has 2. Extrapolating from Uruguay's 4 million population this means ~35000 girls is all okc has left. Been in decline for a while, but now fallen sharply.
BingoBoingo: Even less alternatives to talking to people now.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-03 23:35 mircea_popescu: 2nd generation immigrant, sold edonkey to barnes&noble, sold okcupid to iac, will sell his highschool sweetheart if it comes to that or no more starbucks.
BingoBoingo: Well, survey thing was slashed during IAC acquisition era
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 05:56 ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736314 << done; chinesium multimeter showed itself to be completely broken, so repurposing svideo cable will have to wait. stuck on plasticrap for now...
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 05:19 lobbes: Currently going down the headless-browser path ben_vulpes suggested. Looking into phantomjs atm, which seems like it could do the job. I have an old craptop I'm thinking of using as the proverbial 'public toilet' to house it on. (This is the same craptop I was planning to put a trb node on. I put a spanking-new ssd in there but then realized that the ethernet dun work anymore; wifi only. May be a good use for the thing to just be a turd server in
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 07:54 BingoBoingo: And the pantsuit purge expands: "John Draper, a legendary figure in the world of pre-digital phone hacking known as "phreaking," has been publicly accused of inappropriate sexual behavior going back nearly two decades."
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 15:55 mircea_popescu: Their successors include Matt Blaze, a widely known cryptographer and associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania; Cindy Cohn, Ms. Steeles successor as executive director at the Electronic Frontier Foundation; Bruce Schneier, a security author and expert; Gabriella Coleman, an anthropologist at McGill University who writes about online activism; Linus Nordberg, a longtime internet and privacy activist; and Megan
a111: Logged on 2016-02-09 21:12 asciilifeform: interestingly, blaze uses the term 'cryptovariable' in his code
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: attaching s-video out of aek to microcontroller, which makes a usb
mircea_popescu: also, my policy re "diacritics" as they're called is that i don't write them, but i don't actually bother to take em out from text i touch. so there's all sorts of ro literature i fixed on my blog, where it's quite evident what the original author contributed and what i put in, because the rotards are very much into this "currently correct romanian notation is alphabet + 5, down from alphabet + 12 a century ago, and THIS MATT
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the slut/whore (woman that does it with everyone because has an itch in her cunt / woman that does it with everyone because has an itch in her purse) is not preserved. but 1k nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aw shit, did i just entice you to break form ?
a111: Logged on 2016-02-25 17:12 phf: i've been mulling over that question with logs. fwiw, entire log can be kept in memory for analysis, annotation, whatever, 180mb as utf-8 byte arrays. with unicode strings takes up twice the memory on 16-bit cmucl, and ~~4 times on 32-bit sbcl. i'm not yet convinced that transcoding everything you get into string and then transcoding it back to a bytearray onto the wire is the best strategy
mircea_popescu: "+cardinalitate, posibilitate a unui sistem informatic de a reactiona simultan diferite operatii`cardinalidad" << "cardinality, the possiblity of an informatic system to simultaneously react different operations".
a111: Logged on 2016-04-05 22:08 mircea_popescu: OMFG! so these useless imbeciles have added every last thing to utf EXCEPT A TITS GLYPH ?
mircea_popescu: inclusive except for the only thing that matters. fuckers.
mircea_popescu: btcbase.org/log/2015-01-30#998185 dissidence, ie i will raise arms and kill not just your standard, but your children along with it. literally.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-20 19:48 mircea_popescu: how cool it is that we ate all the bugs and errors from "supporting utf", because look - there's no fucking glyph-based way to latex, in 2016.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 21:11 asciilifeform: at the cost of a bit of log clutter, let's indulge asciilifeform's crackpottery, and lay out 妓 ( U+5993 : whore ) :
a111: Logged on 2017-07-22 21:51 mircea_popescu: so i joined the whores going to the gym. my first time in a gym at that! it was discovered that yes i'm a lot more powerful than they are, but i have neither the flexibility nor the endurance.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 18:25 mircea_popescu: as a general rule, people who can't produce genus/difference definitions for all the symbols in their own output are better off not thinking yet, as what they think thinking is isn't.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:36 mircea_popescu: speaking of above article, can i get a commitment to never signing any V material which includes any non-ascii characters ? BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mircea_popescu mike_c asciilifeform davout ben_vulpes phf jurov
a111: Logged on 2016-12-23 14:55 mircea_popescu: suppose we had a rule stating that "all patches must include as a comment the patch upon they are to be applied" ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 14:43 phf: we had a thread when diff was first discussed as a way to do patches (i think maybe before even v), where i was erring on the side of no unicode support on the grounds that if we decide to support unicode we have to, to borrow asciilifeforms, drink the whole spittoon
mircea_popescu: in a totally meta-point : can you BELIEVE how INCREHEHEHEEEEDIBLY useful our whole infrastructure actually is ?
mircea_popescu: no court in the history of the legal profession ever managed the pinnacle of legal achievement on display here in this past HALF HOUR omfg.
mircea_popescu: leveraged human thought to a degree not seen before nor, honestly speaking, conceivable without the example./
mircea_popescu: so now, upon proceeding with this item of yours, i obviously reopened that 7 year old directory. wherein i found...
mircea_popescu: an antique and therefore reliable copy of the dex (dictionar explicativ al limbii romane). 80 mb's worth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how many lines the expression item ? (tech i will asume worthl;ess sight unseen -- bot didn't write a ro tech dictionary and ~nobody else was qualified to)
mircea_popescu: yep, teh tech bit is entirely not worth anyone's time.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 02:11 asciilifeform: e.g. ' ciclu format din atomi de carbon`carboatomic ring ' and the like.
mircea_popescu: "12 este divizibil prin 2`12 is divisible by 2" holy shit. there are some useful expressions in the expression item, however a) very low snr, lots of useless crap and b) idiomatics not really a good fit for dictionary, much better fit in blog articles.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lots of good ones missing. "i-a picat fata" (his face fell off) ; "a dat cu mucii-n fasole" (he snotted the refried beans) ; "iti pica fisa ?" (does the coin inserted into your coinslot actually fall through the spuriously complex machinery inside your otherwise empty skull to make the necessary contacts ?) ; "a freca menta" (mintrubbing, absent ?! gimme a break!) ; "ai morcov [in fund] ?" (to have a carrot [up
mircea_popescu: it misses so many of the most trite expressions it's not worth mentioning as a dictionary anyway, much in the way a "map" of texas that only had dallas.
mircea_popescu: the snot item is very likely older than the united states for example.
mircea_popescu: but the coin item is VERY specifically related to apparatus that only existed in the 80s.
mircea_popescu: besides, im pretty sure i saw all of these in ro printed matter.
mircea_popescu: in other wtfs, girl opens jar, a scent of paradise fills kitchen. i go over to investigate. the item is helpfully labeled : melaza. ie, molasses.
mircea_popescu: this is insufficient, i saw molasses before, not paradise.
mircea_popescu: but the label helpfully explains : con gingseng, carao (?!) y cuculmeca.
mircea_popescu: aooarently it's some local cassia and smilax cordifolia
a111: 2017-09-11 <mike_c> congrats! I did that a long time ago too. Good luck with it.
BingoBoingo: And Mugabe's "resignation statement" is set to drop sometime soon.
BingoBoingo impressed by the afternoon's terse yet definitive proceedings
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740667 <<< afaik it never was anyhthing besides "rural western us middle aged women with delusions of self-importance". 45yo oregon dwelling ex-waitress with an interest in spirituality / 38 yo illiterate "princeton graduate" with 1mn in debt and ~0 yearly income 80% of okcupid demo.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 14:51 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (apparently okcupid went full app-shit sometime in the interval also ?) << The website has increasingly little to hook, and is increasingly poorly populated. Last week Uruguay had 4 girls, now has 2. Extrapolating from Uruguay's 4 million population this means ~35000 girls is all okc has left. Been in decline for a while, but now fallen sharply.
BingoBoingo: You forget the entire Pinay diaspora farms it
BingoBoingo: Hong Kong, much Pinay diaspora, much OKc still. Prolly the demographic least sensitive to web design suck. Further proving the point of Namecheap's demise
a111: Logged on 2017-08-13 20:32 mike_c: hey, look at that
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you ever seen the "banking apps" of azns ?
mircea_popescu: (windows got a sort of monopoly for banking there, it's hysterical what stack they run)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: AHA, notably worst in Lower Korea/Japan.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 14:45 asciilifeform: capcană ahahahahaha
BingoBoingo: Less developed Asia tends towards "apps" but Peak Asia tends to Windows 98 SE in lucite
mircea_popescu: capcană = trap, generally in the physical sense. căpcăun = strange item, pluriously rendered as ogre, troll etc. basically ro folklore big bad. in all appearances direct survivor of greek antrophophagos.
BingoBoingo: In still other headlines of the interlanguage frontier: " Trump Tweets “I Should Have Left Them in Jail” About UCLA Basketball Players Arrested in China"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 15:06 asciilifeform: runs... tor.
mircea_popescu: male-looking "anthropologist" "with an interest in" "online activism". ((())) ((()))((())) ((())) sets supplied for reader's convenience in separate packaging.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg remora. nothing any ... wtf was that schmucks name...
mircea_popescu: that nsa chose to publish some derpage through usg.nsa.x-shithead or through usg.nsa.y-shithead is not a meaningful point of difference.
mircea_popescu: in no case may such be used to establish any kind of professional credentials for the designated x, y, etceteras.
mircea_popescu: connivance in usgtardation renders professional merit ~impossible~ and that's the final word on that matter.
mircea_popescu: and so, to get back to it, and in the words of the great nigger Hussein Bahamas, "if you did a thing you didn't do that thing". therefore matt blaze neither was touched nor could have been touched by anyone, be they john drapper or anyone else ; nor has matt blaze had published anything of any note, re ciphers or cooking or anything else.
mircea_popescu: good to have a blog, i routinely forget shit i did, then i end up confronted with it and im like... hey. pretty cool!
mircea_popescu: venetian kid had clear "go east, m'boy, sail east. till you've made your gold coin chest you've no business LIVING in venice. you're born and you return here, that's all."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and that helps anything ? i'd rather marry the whore the brothel uses to advertise than a different, "secret" one.
mircea_popescu: i remember that, cuz i was liek "burn down all ms employees" and he was like "shit, i'm in trouble"
mircea_popescu: anyway, srsly, married guy with small kids. gotta bring home some kind of bacon. he tried to put that idea into work, with you recall, betting something. imo did a great run of it, too. but it didn't catch. so he tried something else and that caught better.
mircea_popescu: what complaint can there be had ? "starve to the light" is for teens, small children have no useful fat reserves.
a111: 2014-11-03 <ThickAsThieves> but you da boss
mircea_popescu: but yes, was kinda sad it went nowhere, he certainly made a something out of nothing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought that was re me de-backing altcoin once it become obvious can't work
mircea_popescu: (admittedly, it became obvious to me faster than "to most people" or w/e)
mircea_popescu: well, archeologists of the future are welcome to resolve this, i ain't digging.
mircea_popescu: yes but rarely will a us born esl fellow wriote his angst under the correct piece.
mircea_popescu: was he the one dedicated to the service of some woman ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, getting briefly back to
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1740875 : the importance of big boobs in women is exactly this : if you make the decision to forced march through desert, the offspring of A-cup camp followers will die ; DD and so forth will survive -- female body will melt the tit into nothing before letting kid starve, whole process driven by that one true whip of the female psyche, the child-dying-of-hunger
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 00:43 mircea_popescu: what complaint can there be had ? "starve to the light" is for teens, small children have no useful fat reserves.
mircea_popescu: -cry. it's an item, even if "everybody" meanwhile "forgot".
mircea_popescu: specifically the "Si daca tot m-am enervat, sa facem si o regula : cine se casatoreste nu mai are dreptul sa fie dizident. Dizidenta e pentru barbati, nu pentru pulalai inscrisi in registru' reproductiv al neamului. Odata ce te-ai casatorit cu una ai terminat-o cu pretentiile si nemultumirile apropo de "orinduirea sociala". Nu mai ai ce sa comentezi, te inscrii acolo in ordine asa cum este ea si iti vezi de sters cacatu' de p
mircea_popescu: e bec sau de pe unde mai ajunge el intr-o gospodarie normala cu copii mici." bit.
mircea_popescu: there is unlimited responsibility bundled with unlimited power.
mircea_popescu: (whole thing is entirely symbolic by now, obviously. but at one point ...)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you gonna vpatch the new dict on the old btw ? or what's next step here ?
mircea_popescu: so is your original, has word, definition, english equiv.
shinohai: Would be greatly appreciated to have plaintext item, asciilifeform .... I also prefer to simply grep word I am looking for whilst studying.
mircea_popescu: the correct transform imo would be from your (word/dubious expl/engl equiv) into (word/proposed english equiv/ipa notation/proper dex expl). this can be done mechanically on the basis of the two items.
mircea_popescu: look at it, it's always separated in the definition, at beginning
mircea_popescu: you could ALSO add the etymology notation as separate field, but can also leave it as is (part of the expl)
mircea_popescu: now, i would much appreciate if you took the current bs and ipa'd it properly (it's not THAT hard, ro ipa set is narrow and unambiguous)
mircea_popescu: but with those changes you not only have only ro dict online, but you also have best ro dict ever made in 3k years of ro history.
mircea_popescu: making you a major cultural player, in the vein of dead people.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 02:00 asciilifeform: caveat x2 : no îțâșă . but it was missing in the original, i did not remove it. ascii-only, in the derp's original, e.g. 'uşă' turns into 'usa'.
mircea_popescu: lol randomly perusing we find "a da muie la statuie" (to fuck statue face), ie superlative dissidence.
mircea_popescu: this would be (as per tradition / discussion yest etc) actually a very powerful item ~for the student of english~, too. even if he only spake english.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, for some reason i thought dex included a pronounciation guide, but it seems mostly absent/unreliable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can even put them as aside binary blob, as discussed re fg/bootturds etc. "you wanrt to see the orcograms, find item #x in list"
mircea_popescu: anyway, to leave the pressure off : im still willing to go through it by line and improve as time permits, but there's no rush, so let's first make an optimal basis and see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as an aside : the "limba romana este singura limba care se scrie cum se citeste" ro linguistics dogmatics promises there's a workable ro-ipaize-tron somewhere. at least in the sense of "we could get 99% success rate". it IS a point of fact that ~any romanian speaker can correctly notate new words on the basis of sound, and this is PRECISELY the sort of artificial intelligence that's amenable to numeric methods.
mircea_popescu: in the sense that the resulting code would be in itself an interesting knowledge pile.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it is. no proof until code written of course.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's try this. make up a girl's name and i'll tell you how it sounds in romanian. then diana_coman spyked alex_c whosoever else can confirm or infirm.
mircea_popescu: (point being -- UNKNOWN romanian words stll have a strict phonetic / alphabetic correspondence in romanian. somehow. how ?)
mircea_popescu: but incidentally -- same treatment could be applied to ru-eng item, resulting in a megabridge here.
mircea_popescu: (is hysterical bit re this in classical ro comedy film, "monsieur se scrie, monsieur se citeste, ci tat umbli cu cioara vapsita!")
mircea_popescu: anywauy, i didn't mean "same treatment" in the sense of ipaization, i meant same treatment in the sense of translaty/explainy flatfile.
mircea_popescu: got a gateway to latin and a gateway to the east, and the idiotic lingua franca of stupid people as the archimede screw for it all.
mircea_popescu: "ПАТЕНТ, -а, м. 1. Документ, свидетельствующий о праве изобретателя на его изобретение, о его приоритете. Получить п. на изобретение. 2. Свидетельство на право занятия торговлей, промыслом. || прил. патентный, -ая, -ое. Патентное прав
mircea_popescu: somehow a dictionary entry is the best way to distinguish men from idiots.
mircea_popescu is noticing how this "how come nothing was done before republic got to it" point is fading out of discourse. trite!
mircea_popescu: which doesn't mean creeping featuritis, but ALSO does not mean "here's half of koschei's heart in lib.ru domain and other half buried way across buyan, in us.archive.org"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ikr ? the previous set of globalists, with the tripod sites etc, promised lots of jules verne crap, went away like nothing.
mircea_popescu: wind of change my ass ; eat more fucking fiber fuckers!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform always a problem of translaty dict, as discussed. no way out of this, translaty dict is perl.
mircea_popescu: but if explainy part provided, some perl on the side is no longer brain rotting.
mircea_popescu: ("but mp, wtf is explainy, not an english word" "fuck you.")
mircea_popescu: im not saying explainatory, esp because wtf is translatatory then.
mircea_popescu: much like they managed to turn banking system from system for achieving wealth to system for avoiding wealth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so are we deciding that is to be the base item and not gonna dump new dex into it ?
mircea_popescu: it's blocking in my head cuz im not gonna edit items by hand if they're gonna be updated by machine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it can't do the right thing if i changed the explanation.
mircea_popescu: whole idea now is "can safely replace explanation from 1 with item from 2". if we break this re 1 wtf do we do, you write AI to discern between dex-powered and mp-powered explanations of words ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway, srsly, married guy with small kids. gotta bring home some kind of bacon. he tried to put that idea into work, with you recall, betting something. imo did a great run of it, too. but it didn't catch. so he tried something else and that caught better. << AHA, does not have young unmarried unchilded option of hardware store to contribute minmally to USGism on principle
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it was promised to me in 1995!11111 << HYPERCARD!!!
BingoBoingo: Arrival in Montevideo arranged for Dec 6th, at same time as departing prior day.
deedbot: zod_ voiced for 30 minutes.
zod_: BingoBoingo not much
BingoBoingo: zod_ Let's get to know each other first? Who is your daddy and what does he do?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 00:56 asciilifeform: btw, for my fellow rotakus ( shinohai , pete_dushenski , ben_vulpes .. ? ) grep -i '^foobar' ro_eng_ascii.txt finds word foobar.
zod_: BingoBoingo my dad lives in new york and drives a taxi. and my mom hopes he's gonna die soon.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 19:19 mircea_popescu: an antique and therefore reliable copy of the dex (dictionar explicativ al limbii romane). 80 mb's worth.
shinohai: Take a handful, write entire Romanian dictionary by hand in 2 nights.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I am pretty sure most of us thing "levo"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You know, different rotations
BingoBoingo: Thinking dexedrine is the only dex isomered thing is racis
pete_dushenski: aha you sneaky chemist you. making me recall my organic chem from uni! i actually really enjoyed that class. it was one of my better marks in first year. b!
BingoBoingo was above average uni student, chemically insulated from ambient retardation
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 18:02 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski considering the current bezzle pressure / overwhelming inflation and the very personal-brand-oriented populace, it will probably be 1bn just to be able to say 1bn.
pete_dushenski: "Maybe the $450 million is just a function of how rich the world's richest people have become. The price needed to be that high, just for them to notice the money." << salmon is right here at least. stacks of gov-backed paper just don't feel like all that much these days.
pete_dushenski: much prettier than btc too but that mostly depends on how much you're turned on by p2p network mechanics
pete_dushenski: aha. "modern art" is often just so soiled as to be rightfully confused for tp.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 7930.01, vol: 8686.66837267 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 7985.0, vol: 40829.7866509 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 7945.1, vol: 2819.53208687 | Volume-weighted last average: 7973.72326182