asciilifeform: the plant gets ruinously costlier, per erry 'shrunk nanometre', and somehow gotta be amortized, and the competition gets thinner an' thinner
asciilifeform: buncha gates, as many as can fit, and a programmable switching matrix, a la old telco , look up tables made of 4-6 bits of sram that turn a given unit into 'and' , 'or', 'xor', half-adder, straight wire, whichever is necessary. i dun know how to more rigorously define, it is one of the simplest devices, straight homogeneous grid of sram cells plus a couple hundred (thousand, in larger devices) 'express lanes' made of straight metal,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall ice40 ? simple grid of LUTs, + matrix of programmable interconnects.
asciilifeform: and pretty much the ideal 'nonspecificity of diddling' platform, it is quite impossible to meaningfully boobytrap fpga fabric if you don't have foreknowledge of what will go into it and precisely where.
asciilifeform: why not ? it's the simplest item, and theoretically the others can be made from it.
asciilifeform: possibly incomplete list, but roughly it.
asciilifeform: current cmp co. price schedule >> https://mycmp.fr/technologies/price-list.html
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1865788 << separated '/tmp' is not imho entirely worthless, i've set up boxen where it lives in ramdisk, where imho it belongs
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1865782 << dun matter if yer an admiral, or emperor, you got 1 arse. the node you ~generate~ tx on, ~is~ a battleship.
asciilifeform: previously , from last 2+yrs of reading docs, i laboured under the impression that the only process that demands secondary stack, is ~returning~ variably-lengthed objects. rather than simply passing'em forward as 'in' param. which in erry context OTHER than generic, worx .
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in today's gnat retardations : apparently it is impossible to use ( but can define!!!11 just fine ! ) a generic that takes a String as 'in', without secondary stack.
asciilifeform: phf: funnily enuff, just about erry year i briefly contemplate baking a sane disk crypter, but always run against same wall -- sata interface is ~unobtainable outside of reich-asics
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-24#1865708 << if pc iron had its shit together, there would not even need to be such a thing as 'red' disk -- only (temporarily) 'red' sram, and buncha freely backed up 'black' disk.
asciilifeform: it's really a classic example, imho, of a mechanism that requires wot ( and ergo, an out-of-band forcing knob, 'no, you do not get to rewrite history, even if you have 9000 sybils' )
asciilifeform: the only practical defense against this is checkpointing, afaik. ( the prb folx tried to defend with 'orphanage', but with finite ram this does not actually solve the problem in the general case, simply ensures that different noades will wedge at different times )
asciilifeform: speaking moar generally of replays -- because of the idjit method shitoshi used for block-gettin', where 1 peer can ~monopolize connection for just about as long as he wants -- a stock trb node , syncing from empty, is in fact in a position to be fed just about arbitrarily long replay chain. which is why my interest in sane checkpoint variant.
asciilifeform: i dun have a tcpdump on that thing at all times, lol, no amt of disk count conceivably suffice
asciilifeform: mod6: they were not. see log, i set up the tcpdump ~after~
asciilifeform: Mocky: in usa i found that i had to get a postbox simply to get a lease for office that has own postbox, 'catch-22', but possib. other places moar sane
asciilifeform: it is my understanding that you'll need a postbox to open company, pretty much anywhere, regardless
asciilifeform: when mircea_popescu wakes up, we'll see what he says re taking one of asciilifeform's seekrit spares and sending Mocky sample.
asciilifeform: lessee what mircea_popescu thinks; this is a classic example of the type of knot i rely on him to cut.
asciilifeform: complicating proggy simply because there's 1 broken system somewhere, is not imho a winning proposition.
asciilifeform: bvt: on contemplation, i'm thinking possibly mips should simply get own v-branch, if we ever actually get hold of a mips.
asciilifeform: when we get own sane os, can reimplement on ~that~ . but under unixlike, stuck with .c thing
asciilifeform: bvt: thing is, there's a non-negotiable must-have subset of posix, that ~cannot~ be implemented as pure ada. e.g. the udp structs liquishit. or , as we learned from bvt , open()
asciilifeform: imho, segregating as much as possible of unix liquishit in a short .c, is cleaner than buncha Import() and hardcoded flag constants derived by guesswork
asciilifeform: my orig attempt at the udp thing tried to stick with purely pragma Import(...), but the result was definitely not portable, and so i rewrote it like-so
asciilifeform: if it weren't for struct sockaddr_in..., struct in_addr..., i'd've simply imported the calls via pragma Import(C, ... )
asciilifeform: there is afaik no clean way of portably eating the ridiculous c structs without actually including a .c component.
asciilifeform: but currently seems to me that it is impossible to write a portable proggy that uses open() without a .c that #include's the system's flags
asciilifeform: my mmap thing was originally c-free (aside from a coupla imported, adatronically, calls) but apparently will have to include a .c simply for open(), to be portable.
asciilifeform: with culprit being the assumption of standard open() flags
asciilifeform: bvt : i'ma have to implement something to make calls to open() portable, cuz this is riotously ridiculous
asciilifeform: tldr : the shitcoin people are in fact pretending to compatibility with ordinary btc protocol; even going as far as using unchanged version strings, and backdated block timestamps ( of course trb rejects the liquishit in O(1) , but it is entertaining )
asciilifeform: or hey, wai not tcpdump -w fuckwads.pcap -i eth0 "net 165.227.0.0/16" or "net 178.238.0.0/16" .
asciilifeform: i'ma leave a tcpdump -w fuckwads.pcap -i eth0 "host 165.227.138.176" or "host 178.238.224.213" running on zoolag
asciilifeform: same algo, thing shits out 9000 shitblox and dumps at line speed
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'It validates completely validates blocks and transactions' ?
asciilifeform: can think of it as simply a very long untappable wire.
asciilifeform: in 'simple scheme, for example..'
asciilifeform: imho it's pretty simple.
asciilifeform: simple scheme, for example: 512 byte pad blocks; 1st 64 bytes are reserved for a-b keccak salt, last 64 bytes -- b->a salt, 384 in the middle for payload pad. say 'a' starts the convo: sends c = 384byte-plaintext xor 384byte pad . followed by h = keccak(a->b salt + c ). then he expects an ack in the form of keccak(b->a salt + c ) before he winds forward to next block.
asciilifeform: and for good measure, use the cards 1ce, cremate'em when empty
asciilifeform: the method where you exchange cards, has 2 wins: it is not enuff for enemy to get copy of simply 1 card, must get one of each ; and rng failure on 1 side doesn't sink you, you get combined reliability of the 2 rng's ( perhaps yours is of 1 type, and other fella's -- another )
asciilifeform: 1 of the things i like about otp box is that it is trivial to verify that it functions as specified ( can plug in a pad with known contents, throw in known plaintext, and observe -- with a comp of your choice -- what comes out )
asciilifeform: Mocky: theoretically dun have to use with an actual comp, can have dumb glass terminal on the plaintext side of each box
asciilifeform: i suspect that there is a sane space b/w the classical design and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540775 extremity, simply gotta find what it is.
asciilifeform: the obvious down-side, aside from the substantially moar complicated logic, would be that you could no longer dd if=/dev/fg | dieharder etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 1 crackpottery i've considered adding to FG-2, is an 'authenticated' mode, where userland proggy gets ability to verify that rng bits actually came from a particular FG. the way to do it would be to have a keccak salt, printed on the board, and have the thing send , instead of naked bytes, packets, of b0,b1,...bN bytes, followed by keccak(salt, b0,b1,...bn) . could be enabled by jumper setting, conceivably.
asciilifeform: what i'd really like is to bake an entire comp, a la rockchip, with FG on board. but this too is in same budgetary ballpark as asic .
asciilifeform: ( plus i ~like~ that it gets made from off-the-shelf components, from strategic pov it is imho superior )
asciilifeform: or at the very least , >1 serial port ( the current pizarro boxen, do have rs232 header on mobo, but only one, and at the traditional +/- 12v signal levels, rather than ttl, and i eschew the converters, because they all work by oscillating capacitor pump, hence noisy )
asciilifeform: simply dumps block hashes, without racking up ssd wear as dumpblock/hash/erase to do same job would
asciilifeform: 'locked' implies that reorg logic failed ?
asciilifeform: ( currently, this is ~impossible )
asciilifeform: seems that he wanted to test whether trb's miner component actually worked.
asciilifeform: the 1 thing it'd do for current, is to give easy means to determine that errybody actually has same blox. but the read-only knob already gives this ( and arguably 'dumpblock' already gave a much slower version of same )
asciilifeform: rather than a complicated series of template insertions and db fetches
asciilifeform: at any given time, your www -- with the possible exception of comment-eater and search box (the latter dun even exist in mp-wp iirc) really wants to be a static string
asciilifeform: it doesn't meaningfully cache computations
asciilifeform: and yet the box grunts though the templatization 9000 times an hour, as if answ could ever turn out different
asciilifeform: would be major improvement, tho, if serving up a 10kB article didn't eat 500MB.
asciilifeform: put the dressing in blog.ads as constants and be done with it. when erry couple of yrs you feel like twiddling the bg colour or somesuch -- it's a 10sec recompile, wat.
asciilifeform: lobbes: what i meant was, there is long list of actually urgent proggies, this one's definitely a luxury; thus far ~errybody is living with mp-wp and not particularly sad
asciilifeform: tho i suspect it would be simpler mechanism than on the surface it appears.
asciilifeform: it doesn't. was pointing out that you dun get 'clean room' simply from central air pump. at least none of the ones i've used, even with the fancy electrostatic trap thing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo's rooftop, had -- coupla dozen little samsung compressors
asciilifeform: hey, gotta have the foam for neutron tamper!11
asciilifeform: ( re 'furries & trannies' -- there is a hilarious wankfest going, somebody spread rumour that trump is plotting to cancel, somehow, Official recognition of trannieism, all sortsa usual suspects are busy filling their pants as we speak )
asciilifeform: plox to expand for enlightenment -- how does 'impersonal miami' work
asciilifeform: ( and not because it interferes with their attempt to run usg-style printing press ..? )
asciilifeform: ( no moneyed orcmobile is complete without blinker-siren )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it wouldn't surprise me if 'rolex watch' is eventually displaced by a wrist-strapped gold brick stamped with word 'rolex' or some other such substitute. sorta how gentleman swords were replaced with jewel-encrusted lolsticks prior to vanishing entirely
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if pete_dushenski was to be believed, rolex per se is 100% chump market item in recent yrs, strictly for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852974 people
asciilifeform: so then as i understand , rsa 'ddos' is not possible, i.e. 'allcomer' cannot force serv to perform a modexp simply by asking.
asciilifeform: can simply look up the expected key in curated db, prior to modexp
asciilifeform: ( btw for thread-completeness i gotta point out that asciilifeform spends most time on a rather slow box, that 22 is actually a 10 on recent x86 iron )
asciilifeform: ( so far from Mocky's description, picture seems like entire place consists of -- handful of natives, owning the petropipe, and much larger set of gastarbeiters servicing pipe + palaces + plumbing etc.; 0 agriculture, 0 industry, pipe economy, possibly ~0 lumpens, quite unlike mircea_popescu's egypt )
asciilifeform: Mocky: is the implication also that they dun bother to look into totalcostofownership before buying ? hence the legends of bedouin sheiks buying a merc and leaving it in desert when fuel tank empty ..?
asciilifeform: really mmap is the champ for disk i/o on unixlikes.
asciilifeform: ( for the impatient : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/snap_546400.txt )
asciilifeform: but , importantly, will have to arrive at a max, if using stack.
asciilifeform: it's a fairly simple fix, as i understand, gotta up the max stack
asciilifeform: in moar minor noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863610 is a++ display but pretty sad box, i forgot just how rubbishy these were, cramped kbd with coarse molded plastic feels like sumthing straight from toy store, touch pad thing is the size of 2 postage stamps, arm rest creaks...
asciilifeform: iirc in asia they have ~same thing, but encoded differently, they simply charge 100k $ for 'car tax'
asciilifeform: and '9000' empty holes for erry strike
asciilifeform: build a kolyma in pampas...
asciilifeform: 'Había ingresado hacía menos de una semana y estaba alojado en la celda siete del cuarto piso, junto a otros cinco internos. Se escapó luego de romper una reja, saltar desde varios metros de altura a un pozo de aire desde una altura de 12 metros, entrar a un depósito en donde encontró el uniforme de policía con el que se vistió para pasar desapercibido, y forzar una puerta...' << lol hollywood escape
asciilifeform: Mocky: from your earlier description , sounds like there are no 'lumpens' in qatar ? ( if so, this is pretty neat )
asciilifeform: ( think, if jailbreak were 'pay $toyota', usa would empty overnight )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is theoretically possible to write 3600 emulator without much brain work, the instr set is (mostly) described in their 600 (!) page patent. but there's very little to be gained from doing so, the 3600 arch is before they cleaned all of the mit shit-hackolade out of the thing, it has million idjit warts inherited from when the thing was a refrigerator-sized dumpster of 74xxx discretes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik nobody's even picked up enuff frags with which to make even half of a serious attempt, at that
asciilifeform: nao, on other hand, the ~orig~ bolix, leaked like sieve, yes, regularly we hear about some old fart sitting on buncha tapes he picked up from dumpster, but always same element in story, he sits like tolkien's gorlum, 'my precious!', on the goods
asciilifeform: notbad biznis model , when all you want to do is pay electric bill on cramped old house in virginistan
asciilifeform: to avoid replaying old thread, will simply link my http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1624999 astonishment
asciilifeform: ( for non-bolixologists in the audience : 'ns' was the spiffy vlsi tool they used to bake their ic's, logic was specified as a lisp proggy of sorts and compiled into an item that could be taken to vlsi plant )
asciilifeform: ( at one time i did have an ancient 'nokia' that had precisely this battery system, so there's no practical reason why impossible . it's purely lock-in crapola that prevents. )
asciilifeform: at one time asciilifeform wondered why no lappy maker ever included simply a compartment with sprints, like electronic boxen in the good old days, where you could stuff in yer own when the old ones give out. then realized the obv answer why.
asciilifeform: https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1fwgtPpXXXXaJXXXXq6xXFXXXS/laptop-battery-cell-25R-Samsung-inr18650-25r.jpg << example of subj
asciilifeform: nobody in his right mind would try to empty swimming pool with eye dropper, but for some reason the computin' folx are still doing it.
asciilifeform: current-day 'supercomp' biz is a sad cargo cult, ~errybody's building buckets fulla intelade rubbish.
asciilifeform: iirc we had a photo-computation thread even
asciilifeform: but yes, 'allcomers p2p' allows 9000 types of abuses ( if you think about it, the fact that one is able to build a simple mechanism to map out the net, is not actually a win , for that matter ) , noose at 11
asciilifeform: already turned up a buncha oddities re noades -- for instance, just about errybody not-trb still sends out gavinalert (with 'key compromised!' message. wai -- i have nfi )
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, while mircea_popescu is awake -- mircea_popescu do you still have a 'mpb' noad running on public net ? would like to try my exerciser on one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only this, but if folx build on the right slab, they can get 9000x less complex proggy in the end
asciilifeform: ( bonus, it has no .c component, builds strictly gnatistically , tho it imports several unixisms as funct calls )
asciilifeform: as i understand, it's a temple, they had'em in 3000 bc just the same, heathens pray to their peculiar gods
asciilifeform: chinese examtaker , or the '2030' people mircea_popescu linked, resemble 'fast comp but without rng'
asciilifeform: 'tournaments' seem to work. in particular in that starving 'hopers' will jump livelier and higher than 50k 'it's my day jerb' folx.
asciilifeform: ( my model dun differ so much from mircea_popescu's, aside from where i lump the digg & reddit waves together in lump element, afaik they consisted of largely same lost souls )
asciilifeform: 'there are infinite chumps, nao if could find'em'
asciilifeform: that or finally mumps
asciilifeform: ( in prelim experiment thus far, virtually errything that aint a known trb noad, appears to show one or more obv symptoms )
asciilifeform: and eventually nodes that show 0 symptoms of prbism will get priority in rescan queue.
asciilifeform: probe algo currently simple: 1) ip:port thrown in search box 2) probed 3) getaddr 4) all ip:port from (3) queued for probe
asciilifeform: ^ and if anyone has a handy dumpblock-derived list with which to populate known_blocks , plox to sign & post, otherwise i'ma bake one laters
asciilifeform: i've ended up on the spam lists, they push errything from dead-tree 'how-to'-s (because, i suppose, if chump is this dumb, he is prolly on aol, and can't download scans, and will ~pay~ for xerox-of-xerox...) , to faux bananistani 'passports', to weirdo sect/christ-besotted crapolade
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i once bought a lamp for indoor tomato pot; still getting occasional spamola re 'growism'
asciilifeform: ( going for ~200 yrs nao, with very short pause during attempt at 'dry law' and then revolution )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you get stuck i'ma show you how to make it go, cleanly, i have a working example of nearly the same thing you're doing ( gossip prototype thing ) that simply hasn't been cleaned for publication of yet
asciilifeform: ( some components -- 'manually', as shitoshi used wildly variable sizes; some -- cleanly )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: didja ever look at my 'nqb' example ? it has buncha records , that get serialized/deserialized correctly
asciilifeform: the fs as we know it is a classic example of 'plugging funnel at wrong end'.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if my nitpick isn't clear, i can post an example later today.
asciilifeform: in oooother noose, 'pixelqi' lcd ( thread http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-11#1860677 ) is ~not~ compat with 'lenovo s10-3' -- screw holes in wrong places , and connector dun reach .
asciilifeform: flash disk really oughta be simply a thing that kicks in when the power fails and box runs from capacitor and saves state.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: observe that current subj is a classic '4 ring binder' . we arent actually looking for file lock, file lock simply happens to be the only available ~working tool for machinewide-semaphore
asciilifeform: twist : ( at least in usa ) they demand that the car be no older than 3y. and given as typical cabbie is not particularly creditworthy, they give the chump '0% until missed payment' loans to buy'em
asciilifeform: ( e.g. washington, has more or less 1 or 2 uberists per city block, at any given hour , some full, some empty )
asciilifeform: ( and they've put in a sort of unofficial gamble component, often enuff the car will have no one but 1 )
asciilifeform: uber worx exactly like the 'reliable' wu -- they force chump to register bank acct etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg is on an 'embrace & extend' tack. not simply the pot thing, either -- consider, 'uber', 'airbnb', etc through lens of 'attempts to make unemployed zeks, driven into piecework, to document income & pay tax'
asciilifeform: 'portability' without active testing is an empty promisetronic thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw for completeness strictly, note that there exists a ~third~ crc32 : division normally, but optionally generates table and then continues with table
asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, mod6 et al : loox like trb doesn't remove banned peers from its addr table ! i.e. offers their addrs up to others, as if they were proper noades!! i never noticed this previously, it had to wait to be found empirically. really oughta be fixed, and pretty simple patch.
asciilifeform: slycordinator: the only 'driver' is the ehci thing , i rolled it into the example kernel, it'll work with any mass storage item plugged into the jack
asciilifeform: this doesn't require any changes to the published example
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no 'originality' contemplated, referring to simple act of using empty page. y'know, like in '80s when keying in gamez from mk61 b00k
asciilifeform: ( when i rewrite , i actually start with empty buffer, but that could be just me )
asciilifeform: loox simple enuff
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's an empty niche, sorta like phuctor's pre-phuctor
asciilifeform: this line of thought was prompted by my 'trb observatory', which has uncovered a number of 'mpb'-style nodes, i.e. trb-like but not presenting 'modern' vers and therefore invisible from heathen www indices
asciilifeform: phf: i was aiming for 3 basic things : 1) recursively getaddr entire reachable btc net, perhaps erry hour or so 2) find trb-compat (i.e. 'services' == 1 ) non-pseudos (i.e. if i pull block hash out of a hat, he quickly gives correct block) and eventually 3) get inv's and monitor tx propagations.
asciilifeform: and sbcl aint it. i'd prefer something like kyoto, or which ever was the absolute shortest that implemented whole standard, for starting point
asciilifeform: so he never had to eat the compat layer liquishit.
asciilifeform: my impression was that allegro did 'all them things not in the standard' and actually did them well.
asciilifeform: ( prolly The Right Thing then is to write own compat layers. for errything. but only 2 hands,sadly )
asciilifeform: dun need to be battlefield-grade, simply wanted to see how ben_vulpes did it, ty
asciilifeform: best analogy, imho, is sov train carriages. it is possible to make train carriage of many lengths, but they had 1 . so if cargo were smaller, it'd get packed in with other things, or sometimes partially empty car, but short car would not be specially built for shorter crate.
asciilifeform: to bring thread back to current-day -- afaik the only means to implement alternative builds, in current scheme, is 2 (or moar) pressable leaves in erry 'release' ver.
asciilifeform: imho 'unifiers' (i.e. patch that pulls in specific state from a parallel tree) is a cleaner way of accomplishing this than cut&paste, but i was unable to persuade.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc mircea_popescu in particular specifically hates libs-as-separate-trees, insists that proggy oughta include errything it eats. ( i dun recall whether he answered why it should not also then include the os and compiler also in same genesis, but i'ma leave thread alone for nao)
asciilifeform: perhaps mp-wp itself, also.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'm thinking , i prolly oughta roll the mp-wp prereqs into the standard rk image, in the short term
asciilifeform: Mocky: read up re what yer nic actually does. then will grasp that by pretending that it does something, anything , else, you incur runaway complexity cost and impedance mismatch. always.
asciilifeform: errything else is hokum created by ip stack theatrics. and incurs complexity cost for 0 win.
asciilifeform: leave n bytes in frame empty, simply gives 'fritz chip' handy spot to stuff kleptograms in...
asciilifeform: Mocky: unixism per se had ~nuffin to do with it. incut away a degree of freedom. unnecessary degrees of freedom are fundamentally harmful in re simplicity/sanity.
asciilifeform: Mocky: y'understand what preallocated means. it means fixed, at compile time, here.
asciilifeform: diana_coman has a 'generic' ver, a kind of ada cheat i suggested ; but it has minus of preventing restriction encapsulation, as well as inevitably moar complex receiver (mine handles one size and one size only)
asciilifeform: i.e. simply run the acct one with 'nice 19 ...'
asciilifeform: having 2 processes (and if desired later, 2 boxes) to process the 2 types, will make priority queue simpler also.
asciilifeform: simply a 16bit field.
asciilifeform: would get much simpler coad (i.e. my orig. fixed frame) vs the extended one with moar moving parts.
asciilifeform: cuz if it's simply to distinguish the rsa from the symmetricolade without wasting a bit in the payload, could simply listen on 2 ports...
asciilifeform: the funny bit is that even if errybody turned on ipv6, the result would simply be 9000x moar brekekekex. cuz it'll still work.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i see ipv6 as , at least in part, a deliberate scheme to make p2p ~impossible.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also complicating the maffs is that the 'time req'd to be head' depends not only on particular node's 'shout', but those of ~others~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've been on a yr+ jp kick, attempting to read some of that 1337 poetry in original..
asciilifeform: afaik errybody saw their particular jumper setting as the One Troo way
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: errybody 'elects maculae', it aint as if raider-cannibal is exempt somehow from thermodynamics, still gotta find somebody to eat.
asciilifeform: to make life even moar complicated, the infection, in some circumstances, is actually adaptive ( peasants living where agriculture barely worx at all, can only survive in 'mir' or similar formation , i suspect )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was half-expecting you'd mention unvaccinated BingoBoingostani and their mumps. but this also worx, i suppose
asciilifeform: ( and yes reality is a bit moar complicated, most bots are behind nat and won't be immediately reachable like this. but it is not impossible to picture a net with say 10,000 udp-reachable nodes . )
asciilifeform: so victim/amplifier 'answered'
asciilifeform: 'Military Services pay approximately $7M in FLPB to 27,000 Active Duty (24,000) and Reserve Component (3,000) Service members...' << lol!! what, ~2 benjies ea.?!
asciilifeform: simple enuff, on paper.
asciilifeform: ( why curl refuses to put the url in the debug dump, is mystery to me )
asciilifeform: all they gotta do is to follow the spampal usd etc
asciilifeform: it's mindboggling, all sorts of folx whom seemingly 'god himself made for btc', e.g. malware racket, still use spampals/dwollas/etc as if year were 2008
asciilifeform: y'know, employed folx, who don't 'opinionate at #ows' or pollute fetlife or etc.
asciilifeform: sure, but it's a theatrical production, with roughly same physical impact as footballism
asciilifeform: anybody with pile of benjie could do it right nao, simply eat/shit btc on site. but for some reason these folx allergic to btc ? i haven't the faintest idea
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: good % of classical usg totalitarian bullshit is enforced through 'employer pays into yer bank, which reports erry penny'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf would be the point of a wu spampal that only worx ~in~ 1 place
asciilifeform: and i've emptied my share of mousetrap.
asciilifeform: holyhell, mircea_popescu imported that one ?!
asciilifeform: there was a 'hamplanet' thing
asciilifeform: ( anyway if anybody turns up the thread, plox to link, i'm coming up empty )
asciilifeform: dunno, ben_vulpes walked me into one in buenosaires that was bigger than my house, and ~empty
asciilifeform: it's a 2edged blade, as it would be a great temptation to 'light client' idjits to parasitize on trb. but would make for easy litmus.
asciilifeform: in-block tx, that is, rather than mempool
asciilifeform: re upstack -- as it happens, 'trb-compat' is pretty easy to distinguish mechanically -- anybody who has 'services' field != 1, aint trb-compat.
asciilifeform: individual display only of trb-compat folx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw i think you'll like this, by default thing does opposite of the heathen one, doesn't display prb nodes individually, but simply as a collective 'sad people' stat # .
asciilifeform: currently i suspect that 'slicing' (per ave1 thread) isn't even wanted; but simply locking.
asciilifeform: if kernel gotta be involved at all, it really ought to be simply to prevent multiple processes from seeing same FG bits.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ti is epic example of sad -- at one time 1 of the largest semiconductor houses in usa, and built not only a lispm ( flopped ) but fairly beefy 80s micro ( ti-99/4 , also flopped )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cuz promised 'next day' and turned out ~week, and place runs on meat/monkeys rather than (as implied) comp
asciilifeform: ^ can prolly simplify further
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860789 << imho a ~constant time~ crc32 would be useful, and can be made from ave1's with very small effort, but i'ma leave it as exercise for him ( simply dispose of the if's )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860778 << there are not so many legitimate uses for /dev/urandom. however the idea that it can be fully reproduced in userland without kernel knob is afaik a mistake -- the thing gives you real entropy if available, and elsewise prngolade; importantly, as a ~nonblocking~ operation. idea is that it ~always~ returns in constant time.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860762 << that was the contemplated stat(), yes. the sad is that idjit unix does not have a general-purpose 'this block of program is atomic' primitive, and so other cpu can fuck you b/w the stat() and open() call ( tho phf did find a open() flag that supposedly atomicises )
asciilifeform: phf: seems like oughta work ( aside from boxes where /tmp is on nfs drive, but that's a perversity imho )
asciilifeform: ( and it is my understanding that you can, under all known unixen, simply by locking e.g /tmp/tmsr or whatever fixed path )
asciilifeform: phf: also can lock a fixed name in /tmp when incrementing counter or whatever wants to be atomic. tho imho it's ugly
asciilifeform looked, didn't find, assumed that i simply didn't look hard enuff
asciilifeform: phf, bvt : i thought of a possible algo for sane tmp file creation that dun need rng or global counter. 1) pick a file name in tmp dir, if none exists, take empty string, as string S 2) produce S' = H(S) , H is hash (e.g. keccak) 3) stat(S') ; if already exists, take S'' = H(S') and repeat .
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/gvC8D << old photo of subj, from before vendor croaked. ( comparison with 'eink' on right hand )
asciilifeform: mod6: is there a simple way to perma-voice folx in #p ?
asciilifeform: billymg: various notes re uses for rk , for your enjoyment -- http://thewhet.net/2018/08/hanbots-znc-bouncer-notes/ , http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ , http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
asciilifeform: ( update unrelated, simply doing some www housekeeping )
asciilifeform: if i ever find that mine stopped, whole thing is going to dissection table, fg, comp, power supplies, etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw recall that we have red lamp already ( iirc i suggested claxon too, back in the design days, but mircea_popescu said enuff-is-enuff )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho it's the honest thing to do. red lamp, 'grab yer parachutes nao!!', claxons.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: compute, for a laugh, the size of the disk where this can take place
asciilifeform: mkstemp : 'In glibc versions 2.06 and earlier, the file is created with permissions 0666, that is, read and write for all users. This old behavior may be a security risk... ...More generally, the POSIX specification of mkstemp() does not say anything about file modes...'
asciilifeform: 'The mktemp() function generates a unique temporary filename from template. The last six characters of template must be XXXXXX and these are replaced with a string that...' etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: keccak even worx as a stream cipher, and afaik no better or worse than other extant examples.
asciilifeform: ( simply swap the 'sha512sum' in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/readme_s.txt for phf's standalone keccaktron )
asciilifeform: early attempt
asciilifeform: deer imho aint comparable to a dog-sized rat with human hands, re lulz potential
asciilifeform: but dumpster ?!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plenty of deer here. the 2 species dun compete for fodder at all, afaik
asciilifeform: Mocky: mine emails. but i dun recall if mp-wp has this knob.
asciilifeform: and generally clever enuff not to get under trucks; even has opposable thumb, can open doors, simple locks, latches...
asciilifeform: ( hopefully you have an example of ui work that aint secret )
asciilifeform: there's a whole bunch of weird stuff in gnat, some of it potentially plunderable, some -- dunno -- e.g. a ~complete implementation of SNOBOL
asciilifeform: imho could be interesting to attempt a similar survey , but without the asinine filtration ( and on top of this, to forgo listing the liquishit that makes up 99+% of the supposed net )
asciilifeform: ( granted if mircea_popescu has a mpb noad there, it won't show in in this heathen www , iirc they filter vers. #s <0.8 )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in archaeology : https://archive.is/QVIlg << rare example of non-google arm lappy. ( spoiler : out of print )
asciilifeform: gpg --import behaves like this.
asciilifeform: tho it could be artifact of gpg on trinque end, depending on how he keeps these ( if you use the built-in 'import' mechanism, it never throws out cruft )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: erry so often i try an' search for some symptom that heathens know of trb etc., ~never found
asciilifeform back from dentist... new one better than prev, nao with anaesthetic! tho costs ~3x moar, pretty impressive inflatola, ~1k orcbux for ~halfhr of drill
asciilifeform: anyway billymg appears to be a remora who's never spoken but clutters up my tabcomplete for BingoBoingo !111
asciilifeform: i recall similar lolgem made for trump etc
asciilifeform: ( and where next emperor tallied up the ev and ended up ordering ~all~ boats bigger than fisherman's tub, burned... )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: these loltrepreneurs, the folx milling about in 'co-op', fearing mumps, building alt-fetlifes -- what did they live on ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my profession the saeculum in fact reduces to 'cut'em up and try load into head, sawing through active resistance by orig author'. it is possible to attempt it. and there are other people whose profession is to lift heavy objects in the circus. but they will not be lifting garbage truck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not simply 'does it run' but all of the possible states.
asciilifeform: and interestingly 'hole for 2nd battery' was not entirely unknown item, even in '90s ~crapple~, i have an example ( 'g3 pismo' ) box that took'em
asciilifeform: i ordered a sample recently , just for the hell of it.
asciilifeform: phf: at one time there were rumours of a ips panel that could be stuffed into x60 and had compatible connector/timings , but afaik it's just that, rumour, i was never able to get close to one
asciilifeform: ( aside from rampant brokenness, in the years since gentoo author took 30 silvers from microshit and fucked it all ) would routinely get into circular wedges and fail in other 'interesting' ways
asciilifeform: it is my understanding tho that it is impossible to apply the algo in the thread if one were to make file name part of file's hash.
asciilifeform: phf: do ya think you can post the binaries-eating version soon-ish ? i'd like to regrind FG, for example.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sadly enuff, i was right in re the current phf-vdiff . observe : a) http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5ZYgF/?raw=true << example of deleting a text file. in fact uses same deletion representation as ordinary gnudiff, where entire payload is quoted. b) http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vl2Ca/?raw=true << attempt to represent deletion of 1MB from FG. result : same as in oldschool gnudiff.