ben_vulpes: i don't endorse this, but i am bringing it to your attention: http://straight.romansnitko.com/
ben_vulpes: closest thing i've found is tacos.
ben_vulpes: what was your point about ensure?
ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: i eat real food, but i'm fascinated with the people who insist on living like the poor humans kicked out of the Matrix
ben_vulpes: the enpoopifier?
ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: soylent << http://survivorind.com/3600.html all the upside, none of the software derps killing people with atoms
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> decimation ... filter by the people who read and signed off << i grow more convinced every day that the vast majority of people who write software cannot also read software
ben_vulpes: one of these days i'll have the time to dig into these nutso forth chips
ben_vulpes: included. Follow this link to arrayForth Software Support for documentation and for fully functional downloadable software provided free of charge. "
ben_vulpes: "arrayForth is a complete, interactive software development and debugging environment for GreenArrays Chips. It includes assembler/compiler, example source code including all ROM on each chip, a full software-level simulator for each chip, and an Interactive Development Environment for use with real chips. The latest release is configured by default for the EVB001 Evaluation Board, for which Virtual Machine support and other tools are
ben_vulpes: dafuq is strong with this one
ben_vulpes: (which i learned recently is still running on the "i don't know how to server, guise" "PaaS" Heroku)
ben_vulpes: although, coinbase.
ben_vulpes: interestingly, greenarrays now takes bitcoin
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: hm, probably want to look at bending moments and beam constraints too.
ben_vulpes: that* the things
ben_vulpes: it's pathetic the things can't even open a beer.
ben_vulpes: chetty: looks like an actual bend test, with fixtures and all
ben_vulpes: !up daybyter
ben_vulpes: thats why start with pg
ben_vulpes: <MolokoDesk> i may use SQLite instead of mySQL eventuall. << try postgres if ye've yet to. nicely done db.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> what is rms holding in the photo? << toe jam?
ben_vulpes: and yet being "unbanked" is a bad thing to the libtard
ben_vulpes: financial freedom is the only social good
ben_vulpes: what is a bitcoin application?
ben_vulpes: reel reel reel reel bad
ben_vulpes: the only leg i can see hedging are btc holdings
ben_vulpes: nothing is guaranteed, okay fine.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> this is fundamentally different from what the boy in question does, on forums and while commuting. << pah yup
ben_vulpes: supply, demand...
ben_vulpes: and maybe some cash.
ben_vulpes: sure, it guarantees cash in pocket instead of worthless paper when the music stops, but all i'm left with when the music stops is a company that makes software in competition with all the other shartup engineers.
ben_vulpes: this consulting short isn't really that great of a short actually
ben_vulpes: 'abdominomurine etc'
ben_vulpes: bleaugh
ben_vulpes: (also, bad puns on the rear end)
ben_vulpes: what about the guy who's into that sort of wriggling around?
ben_vulpes: i can see that backfiring, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: no thanks. it's retarded pua shit.
ben_vulpes: "arse hamster machine"
ben_vulpes: 'this time is different'
ben_vulpes: order book is over there. place orders and quit derping.
ben_vulpes: add value or gtfo.
ben_vulpes: !down myriadgetsmehard
ben_vulpes: <myriadgetsmehard> new gTLDs are shit << ftfy
ben_vulpes: that's nonsensical.
ben_vulpes: 'cause btc?
ben_vulpes: myriadgetsmehard: what is this, 90's domain bubble again?
ben_vulpes: and also they only fly at 2kph
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: but the bullets are materially different. lathed shit, perhaps.
ben_vulpes: i think it means he can stroke it to anything
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's a "dget" ?
ben_vulpes: although i imagine the hardened russian finds the US street gang similarly incompetent.
ben_vulpes: to return to the previous topic of conversation: the incompetence of the prisoners implies incompetence of ratcatchers, non?
ben_vulpes: that's the only free market with which you need concern yourself.
ben_vulpes: myriadgetsmehard: put 'em in the OTC order book.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "luxury" anything -> spam ?
ben_vulpes: case closed.
ben_vulpes: "BitPremier currently lists only the following: real estate, autos (listed at $50k USD or more), jewelry and watches (listed at $5k USD or more), home goods and travel (listed at $5k USD or more), handbags and accessories (listed at $5K USD or more)"
ben_vulpes: noyrly luxury items, those.
ben_vulpes: ah, you have domains for sale.
ben_vulpes: what does listing your btc domains mean?
ben_vulpes: who would you auth as, myriadgetsmehard ?
ben_vulpes: ;;ident myriadgetsmehard
ben_vulpes: :P
ben_vulpes: the correct usage is 'r'
ben_vulpes: the mind boggles at the thing mircea_popescu finds difficult to explain, in any language.
ben_vulpes: what is a good prisoner?
ben_vulpes: <decimation> gov't pays for such 'research', most of which is pointless: http://www.sbir.gov/ << people say: "do this!" and I say "what innovation? we duct tape thinger a to tab b and make clients happy." they do not understand, and i cannot enlighten them without calling into question that which they value themselves upon.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: edulcorously?
ben_vulpes: jurov, non?
ben_vulpes: agua sin gas bleh
ben_vulpes: nominally.
ben_vulpes: and nobody's allowed in the bull run
ben_vulpes: in this town we flush whole reservoirs when someone pees in them
ben_vulpes: first moon landing - full of standard procedures.
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: the gutenberg notices are longer than the story
ben_vulpes: the "let me fuck your shit up" switch must be enabled.
ben_vulpes: new encryption settings
ben_vulpes: and there are enough on the table that i should be making odds on how many close
ben_vulpes: if these deals come through, i'm going to have such sweet projects lined up
ben_vulpes: awwwww ye
ben_vulpes: would this actually be a frequency response thing?
ben_vulpes: energy reservoir backing it empties.
ben_vulpes: hammer wears
ben_vulpes: hue
ben_vulpes: ThickAsThieves: doge is up
ben_vulpes: ah yeah
ben_vulpes: !bait
ben_vulpes: ThickAsThieves: jezz is around, and ozbot responds in pm, but it's not in chan.
ben_vulpes: urethrathermal cryptanalysis
ben_vulpes: there's this impossible-to-circumvent 60-hr onboarding window with new devs on old projects.
ben_vulpes: ThickAsThieves: honestly it's a play to get some time to read the code and fuck around with tests before clients start asking for features.
ben_vulpes: just need moar memory for btc :P
ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes sees prodnet and testnet
ben_vulpes: <jurov> i have a little hope for haskoin, it's nicely done << last i checked it was just an rpc wrapper, has it grown much?
ben_vulpes: say it again and again
ben_vulpes: 't'ain't a security audit
ben_vulpes: rarely
ben_vulpes: how else am i to know what i'm getting into?
ben_vulpes: (paid, ofc)
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> i often think about that, how the hell can someone who cannot/willnot read code, ever be the steward of a software project safely? << for legacy projects i generally angle for an audit phase.
ben_vulpes: but again, it's late.
ben_vulpes: there's something in here about buying others risk
ben_vulpes: yeah. software hazard.
ben_vulpes: anyways, nite.
ben_vulpes: reeeeeeally bad feedback loops.
ben_vulpes: hysteresis
ben_vulpes: it's not that software doesn't smack the operator, but that the operator smacked is rarely the one who wrote it in the first place.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: if software were to start behaving like metal cut, most of the extant practitioners would fellate their pistols. << ask the maintainers of legacy software how they feel
ben_vulpes: what is this point of socrates' re marriage?
ben_vulpes: le travail, c'est le travail
ben_vulpes: software: risk sanity
ben_vulpes: hardware: risk hands
ben_vulpes: homegrown software hacking thinger: tools make imaginative, creative engineers regret career choices.
ben_vulpes: homegrown low-budget machine shop: tools will refuse to stay in true for any significant period of time.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> TheNewDeal: Feel like I working in a chinese sweatshop for the last half hour << i am glad to learn that i am not the only one who ended up constructing his own personal chinese sweatshop to toil in... << and how is this different from the making of a computer useful for software development?
ben_vulpes: <decimation> what intrigued me was the mention of the vlsi design software that was written in lisp << me too. has the source been lost?
ben_vulpes: ;;gpg info jaycutler6969
ben_vulpes: ;;ident jaycutler6969
ben_vulpes: %t
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: precisely the point. owner's pedigree is the only thing backing a premined coin whose mining network is controlled entirely by the owner.
ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/vpqTxnd << oh god oh god my bleeding eyes
ben_vulpes: http://mshr.info/ << amazing design
ben_vulpes: marriage. first thing a nascent government goes after.
ben_vulpes: it ain't that late
ben_vulpes: consider though, the coin whose owner controls its network. 'mpexcoin' vs. 'goxcoin'. one trades at an indistinguishable discount (mp claims premium) from market, the other traded at a notable discount (eventually).
ben_vulpes: details of premine and network operation are hazy.
ben_vulpes: <decimation> mp_colonist: that's an interesting thought, you are probably right. it also makes the actions of the west w.r.t. money obviously 'dishonorable' << zero, one, infinity. a good wot may grant you a coin of honor.
ben_vulpes: out of curiosity: did they ever remit?
ben_vulpes: remember that you're the one who insisted on taking a dependency on the aforementioned heathens.
ben_vulpes: xmj: if you have to ask...
ben_vulpes: a no scuse me 'gold'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: kBez << gold
ben_vulpes: pity the pauper.
ben_vulpes: i'm sadly intimately familiar with the turds in flight.
ben_vulpes: <mp_colonist> +ben_vulpes no idea how that happened. noobicle. << shit, vulpes. did you just get called by a girl ?! << read it again, and that to which it's a response.
ben_vulpes: if you're asking if the trainers have to know what they're doing and do it properly then yes.
ben_vulpes: " On January 17, 1995, Intel announced a pre-tax charge of $475 million against earnings" << convenient
ben_vulpes: reddit v. bitcointalk.org - matters?
ben_vulpes: really? i was under the impression that it was just shit and to be avoided.
ben_vulpes: genealogy?
ben_vulpes: ;;gpg info JuliaTourianski_
ben_vulpes: ;;gpg info JuliaTourianski
ben_vulpes: ;;gpginfo JuliaTourianski
ben_vulpes: ;;ident JuliaTourianski
ben_vulpes: not for you apparently.
ben_vulpes: !b 2
ben_vulpes: your point?
ben_vulpes: aside from pedigree.
ben_vulpes: why do you bring up bsd in the context of macos, BingoBoingo ?
ben_vulpes: "they" ambiguous.
ben_vulpes: 'android'? unix?
ben_vulpes: it's a convenient chumpatron - both my shartup short and the touchscreen phenom.
ben_vulpes: who knows/cares.
ben_vulpes: LS(1) BSD General Commands Manual LS(1) << BingoBoingo quite.
ben_vulpes: there are keys and certs and provisioning things and developer whatsits and i ask you - why does this thing not simply run code?
ben_vulpes: forty (billed) minutes later, i have a combudder as what can make 'iOS 8' things happen to...shit i don't even know how it happens to other devices.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> be glad for the bell. << amen. i recently undertook to build a piece of 'golden cage' 'software' to ship over to a client. required 'upgrading' 'xcode', which required 'upgrading' 'os x', a thing i'd been avoiding on principle as the bell shows up every time i plug the shitbox in.
ben_vulpes: etc etc etc etc
ben_vulpes: one man's greed another man's short against the shartup market.
ben_vulpes: one man's incompetence another's malice.
ben_vulpes: incompetence, malice, who can ever tell.
ben_vulpes: JuliaTourianski_: talk to nanotube if you want it changed. say "please" - he's a nice guy.
ben_vulpes: mp_sails: just 'cause she claims it dun mean i buy it to any degree. larvae are larvae.
ben_vulpes: 2 masts?
ben_vulpes: <mp_sails> if i actually sailed myself i'd prolly sink the whole show << daw it ain't that hard
ben_vulpes: JuliaTourianski_: why'd you keep the underscore?
ben_vulpes: <mp_sails> mats_cd03, look into the crazed effects on the lower middle class, where people who could afford insurance before can't anymore, too. because htey're now not poor enough to be poor and not rich enough to be rich. << true story. i can't really afford the shit now.
ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: nyc actulolly
ben_vulpes: "these hypothetical children are guests of our children, obviously. Our progeny will have refined palettes before they can hold a crayon."
ben_vulpes: "I bet yams would make it even oranger. God, imagine the foodie irony such children present: I will make a roasted vegetable bechamel cheese sauce to appease your desire for processed American food products"
ben_vulpes: from the girl: "A cool thing I discovered is that squash makes the bechamel almost kraft colored, so if we ever have children who refuse to eat white mac n cheese, I can TRICK THEM"
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeNeR-5o-ck
ben_vulpes: ho ho ho
ben_vulpes: wow you're crushing hard danielpbarron
ben_vulpes: just want to bang on a drum all day?
ben_vulpes: *ding ding ding*
ben_vulpes: i mean he caught a nobel peace price, but eventually overcame it
ben_vulpes: all things considered, barack obama's really inspiring
ben_vulpes: (and hey - what's Vexual doing on so early!?)
ben_vulpes: anyways, the butternut squash and ricotta gnocchi are up and i'm caught up on logs so meditate on what else beyond time bitcoin might break on its wheel y'all.
ben_vulpes: so long as we're on the same page.
ben_vulpes: which supports my point of block interval as fundamental unit of time.
ben_vulpes: registrar doth not confer time magically, though
ben_vulpes: sure.
ben_vulpes: if you need precise time measures, watch an atom wobble. if you need "thing happened at time", measure it by block number.
ben_vulpes: timestamp being an artifact of derps.
ben_vulpes: still, rolling eyes. the only important thing is which block the event confirmed in.
ben_vulpes: that just means that the consensual time thing is poorly fucking engineered.
ben_vulpes: i'm rolling my eyes so hard at you my head hurts
ben_vulpes: now, clearly, i'm not reading source right now.
ben_vulpes: A timestamp is accepted as valid if it is greater than the median timestamp of previous 11 blocks, and less than the network-adjusted time + 2 hours. "Network-adjusted time" is the median of the timestamps returned by all nodes connected to you.
ben_vulpes: whose clock?
ben_vulpes: even "time" must bow to the blockchain.
ben_vulpes: when it was found? broadcast? accepted by first node? achieved 51% acceptance?
ben_vulpes: when did that block happen?
ben_vulpes: but adequate for pinning events to history.
ben_vulpes: not terribly useful for measuring, say, stamina in bed
ben_vulpes: the point i'm making (poorly) is that the block is a nifty fundamental unit of time.
ben_vulpes is frantically searching on digest algos
ben_vulpes: digest of thing is related to time how?
ben_vulpes: or whomevers.
ben_vulpes: depends on assbot notion of time.
ben_vulpes: ya plz, the log'd benefit.
ben_vulpes: i read some shit on irc one time
ben_vulpes: spec seems like formal term
ben_vulpes: whose computer, what tz, and why even bother with time?
ben_vulpes: how does this date pinning work?
ben_vulpes: ask i mean to say.
ben_vulpes: i tell ya, if i and my counterparty agree on a block, what's the point?
ben_vulpes: meh
ben_vulpes: now, a specific block in the chain - that means something.
ben_vulpes: what is time, anyways...
ben_vulpes: i want to timestamp a thing, i just put the hash of the latest block in in it and then sign the fucker. counterparty ibid, presto, contract pinned to blockchain.
ben_vulpes: so dates are lame, right?
ben_vulpes: nah, i just have a lot of man beef.
ben_vulpes: i also suspect that skin oils make a nice little bottom layer
ben_vulpes: jurov: you're missing a duration qualifier there
ben_vulpes: "get a house, settle down, give up on fun, otherwise you're a retarded child." << Dimsler
ben_vulpes: a few times yeah jurov
ben_vulpes: i was what?
ben_vulpes: wet wipes for the crotch is about all one needs.
ben_vulpes: jurov: if you're cleaning off the dust, you're doing it wrong
ben_vulpes: i mean w.t.f.
ben_vulpes: one use case that made some modicum of sense was this one dood's fuckpalace, but i was always amused that he couldn't just get down in public at the burn
ben_vulpes: "hi i'm subjecting myself to burning man but i want a temperature regulated environment but i can't afford an rv RENTAL"
ben_vulpes: i for one think the burning man use case is hilarious
ben_vulpes: indeed
ben_vulpes: tents a shit
ben_vulpes: !s pauper
ben_vulpes: see the paupery story for details on other "engineering" criteria missing from the conversation.
ben_vulpes: or a thing that i can knock together in the middle of nowhere for next to nothing
ben_vulpes: for a retarded markup
ben_vulpes: made by a giant corporation in the business of fabbing horrible shitboard boxes
ben_vulpes: i really need a pressed shitboard housebox
ben_vulpes: oh yeah shit
ben_vulpes: this has heat xfer implications that you've not considered.
ben_vulpes: The20YearIRCloud: double-shell implies an air insulation layer
ben_vulpes: also source?
ben_vulpes: plus straw?
ben_vulpes: jesus it's like engineering never happened around here.
ben_vulpes: The20YearIRCloud: so double-shell it.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i mean separation of panels? lifting of the thing?
ben_vulpes: The20YearIRCloud: you can use plywood.