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(trilema) ben_vulpes: aquamacs -> railwaycat emacs port -> erc in a terminal on a remote host -> frustrations with tiling window managers in os x -> discovery of xmonad, ratpoison and friends -> x11 configuration -> stumpwm -> emacs on os x in x11 -> horrific bastard mode of "znc" on local machine with "znc" running on remote host -> emacs on remote host as bouncer displaying on a local x11 frame
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the progression was
(trilema) ben_vulpes is baffled as to why guessing would be necessary
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh come now, don't be coy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've finally grown up a bit then i guess.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in a terminal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32423?project=1 << emacs over x11. am i the only one who does this?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, the otp itself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there an assbot persistent otp link per key?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen pigeons
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: "preemptively go down" << ftfy :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "diddlematics" << i never figured kako for a collaborator...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "An agile, distributed, and secure strategy for replacing Certificate Authorities" << agile, hah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: your cloak is applied after you join, fyi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it's not one thing it's a dang nother.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the trick is (drumroll please)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation, lmk if you need a hand with erc and sasl.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just...testing in production.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks punkman.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: `emacs -daemon && emacsclient -c`...not so much.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: `emacs` on remote server pops x11 frame locally
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov, asciilifeform: as though "lisp" and "algol" even exist as actual things.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where's the anger?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "boring, world's going to hell in a handbasket."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this "snore" attitude is part and parcel of the decay.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Mindlessly Churn Out Crud Apps!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "No Thinking Required!"™
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (oh, and those "experts" in rails/django/yii/whatever tend to swallow wholesale whatever braindamage comes out of the "community")
(trilema) ben_vulpes back to the mines
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i speak not as a veteran here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mostly, because it's so damn easy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm always cautious about that line.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's something about working in lisp that seems to reduce the speed at which entropy chews apart a webdev project.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (most wordprexen are cobbled together from plugins - not terrifically difficult to reason about)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rails, ibid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: miserable django shites made by novices rapidly become very expensive to reason about.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: keep in mind i'm approaching this from an empirical perspective.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the surface area over which they can make mistakes is vastly limited.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a sword still cuts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the novice's desire to not learn how relational databases work and how to leverage their strengths is damaging to both themselves and anyone downhill of them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while again it can be used well by people who can use it well (intentional tautology)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and let's not get into the ORM.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: ever touched a clojure ring app?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in their experiments with object oriented programming create these insane class hierarchies that are impossible to fit into human working memory.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while they can all be used well by people who know what they're doing, most people using them categorically do not.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck django, fuck rails, and probably fuck turbogears too.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <plonky> [] the most wtf of today http://presschain.com/decentralized-malware-on-the-blockchain/ << don't use bitcoin it's dangewous!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: db entries pulled via curl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: life is educational if you keep your eyes open, what can i say.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: lol i do now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but a patent for that thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted, hardware in the wild that did the same thing cost ~1000x what i built, didn't work nearly as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas an "innovative" ground plane.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but i don't really know that--" "fill out these papers, kid. we'll send you a check and something for your home office wall."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hounded me *incessantly* for patent paper work after that point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because i asked them to put an nda together for a vendor i wanted to communicate some things to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: legal caught wind of what i was doing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually a funny story related
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: probably some of my earliest introductions to the bezzle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually now that i think of it the bulk of my career has been blessed by sages of various stripes who didn't particularly mind my derping around, or at least found me entertaining enough to tolerate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also the sage american me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i learned much from the sage japanese ee in that shop.
(trilema) ben_vulpes had papers and dollars allocated from the semi testing company for "research and development" that largely consisted of stapling together existing systems and handing the whole package off (with specs and partlists) to the production line engineers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: oh yes? this i'm not quite familiar with.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, and let us not forget the "research and development" tax credits.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this has made me wonder how much "book value" of these big shops is similarly inflated.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apparently they expect one to buy a bit of research and put it on the books.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i saw a company offering to "create research equity" for other companies.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus all of the 'support'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: demand side is huge from ford, intel et al
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they're not terribly hard to get into.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, 's always been my attitude.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not you, it's the americans.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to let people pick the density of welfare cases in their area?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to poke the bear?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so it seems a good exercise would be to release that list of recipients anyways.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because abandonware.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: end up ripping the fixture out of the wall and soldering things together.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i generally know the thing needs plugging in but frequently find myself unable to line up the right pins with the right sockets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat trick, that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can sorta read -assets logs backwards now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sometimes april 1st
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> cuz you liked teh woman, foo. << i see this coming
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more software. just what the world needs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is it one of those "virulent" licenses? that nominally made things into which their licensed source was rolled also "open" source?
(trilema) ben_vulpes rereads *again*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the face of it (and granted, i'm tired and slow), it seems this license would only ever prevent folks from using anything so licensed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while i'm up and it's quiet, what is the point of this new 'license' of yours?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (little, late and only with others' light)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i see, i see.
(trilema) ben_vulpes rereads the article in question
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am simply low on brain and reading comprehension this evening.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wasn't he just wrong?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some bitcointalk.org person who shuttered their own operation preemptively.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i can't find it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: recently, i might add.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you wrote about him at one point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's war, there's no winning.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: show me some that don't, eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: makes me wonder what those of us desperately milking the bezzle of what drops it yields will be castigated with.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima. play with the feds: get exiled. exile yourself from the us, wither on the vine of unprofitability.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't win for losing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha and then ruby ecosystem just falls over en masse without libreadline6-dev on the machine. no warnings at compile or until i go to actually run this hellspawn rails app
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you at least understand the toolchain with which you grapple.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: muntz on, good sir.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can i say something dramatic yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay i lost a weekend to ruby dependency hell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitbet volume up this month?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: damned if i can remember it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a particularly good sci fi story about people who lease their wetware out during the day, are monitored for minute reactions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it also runs davout's thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: everything in the ruby world is abandonware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unbalanced: the term is "asshat"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds par for your experiences down south.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was there anything interesting on display at all?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the point?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good find, BingoBoingo.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poor people opining about champagne.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: the person in question wouldn't know the difference.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bourbon? self-disqualified.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: champagne is not overrated
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or have the girl do it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: generally you make 'em.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's supposed to validate the underlying thesis.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: y'r thinkin too hard, alf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: go fuck a television company executive, wrap him around your finger, leverage like that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't fuck around trying to get the attention of interns in tv companies, that's not going to fly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you gotta drop this "can't do anything cuz no money lol" attitude and focus on getting some money.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: such sexcuses.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tell that to kim.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're competing with kim kardashian, after all.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do it in the nude, only way to get that kind of traffic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> may as well run one node and give it 10,000 spam ip addrs << you wrecker, you!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people are fucking lazy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is biking distance anyways?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do love the pubtrans in my socialist paradise.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he also ran his personal emails through state servers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are various and sundry privilege escalations and container escapes available, however.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more or less, yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, best as I can tell, the thing forgoes the entire ruby "version management" stack and installs some version of ruby.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: feels like a poor man's jail.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i honestly don't know what the technical difference between VMs and containerization is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you're familiar with the "hot" "trend" of "containerization" in the linux space?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the approved method of installing rvm simply causes too many issues"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: yeah i guess now i try to docker this thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ratcheting wire decapitator, slung around target's neck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "when you httparty, you party hard"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "post install message from httparty:"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: i could not tell you why rubyists like anything.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah i keep the girls away from you terrists.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: precisely, dear.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: she said "ah like city planning in europe. this road goes off at 12 degrees because fuck you?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when i explained to her why software as a career might be worse than working in a woodshop with limb loss risks etc, given the decades of shit and bad decisions i have to deal with on a daily basis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ran into a smart cookie of a babe last night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm fucking chowning /Library/Ruby to my user
(trilema) ben_vulpes: obab hates me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the wayback machine is down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holeeeeeee shit i'm angry.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b) EVERYONE HACKING ON RUBY IS FAKING COMPETENCE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a) whenever i hear "neither better nor worse" i actually parse "i cannot evaluate things and exist in a perpetual fog of 'oh iono'"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this leads to such inane babble like "oh rbenv and rvm are neither any better nor any worse than each other, they do different things differently"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm beginning to think that each and every ruby developer's computer is configured to work on exactly one project, and they have no idea how they made it work in the first place.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't reason about my bioware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: somewhere deep in the stack, something insisted on saying it. same way the rest of my puns happen.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have not the shiva arms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re "piece of shit" neat stuff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douglass was a fraud?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: conveniently packaged in disposable cameras!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cunts are objects too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: html, css and js
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hah yeah i mean you have to learn 3 different chodes at the same time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda curious about the complexity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: good for her?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: just appreciating the pun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] it's really not hard to block. but domestic isps = blockheads. << hurr durr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: thanks for the econtalk recommendation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because seriously sudo install libs to system?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am tempted to make a vm for this ruby project.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude ruby what the ever loving fuck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shun the nonbeliever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we must all sing in harmony.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fluffypony: don't disturb the cult!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hola trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh wait the subsidy is for your *mortgage* not your *rent*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: buys house they're moving out of or moving into?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i imagine most of that gets hoovered into rentier pockets.
(trilema) ben_vulpes did not parse the loop construct
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why would that be?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interesting.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dead end streets and all?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: classic 'suburbs'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: concrete and cars everywhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well duh it can't be bitcoinized - you don't know him and so cannot trust him.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're not using the wot unless you're trusting your counterparty.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and that's not a wot, that's a system.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now *that*s tears.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: move to argentina and do webdev remotely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the only thing i can think to do is accumulate capital.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i now have obligations
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i started a company
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes i'm an idiot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: omg this channel is the most educational thing in my life
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