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(trilema) ben_vulpes: but that's probably stockhol.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see why plaintext is so bad, i mean to say.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see why not.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's deeeeeeep in the transaction creation code iirc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's wrong with it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "this one neat trick to speed up blockchain sync time!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps to reduce bw waste, randomly ask for n-plicate copies of blocks from other nodes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is redundant block downloading a horrible idea?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: murder on my mind.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: bit of column a, bit of column b.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> presently the cheapest way to fight back is to extract the 'magic' algorithms and make sure the patterns start to appear in inconvenient places << oh this is bril
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah it's so nice to see people building and running the RI
(trilema) ben_vulpes: complete with "my mom" jokes...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: slaves to the wot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is the private key not adequate title?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does title to bitcoins work?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: catch y'all later.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "two weeks!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque's a busy man. it'll get hammered into shape...eventually.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felipelalli: well check it out you got help eventually
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deedbot-: help
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felipelalli: did you prepend with 'deedbot-:' ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so there ya go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deedbot-: <link hurr>
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay so you try it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot felipelalli
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felipelalli: are you in assbot's l2?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jesus, you guys.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, i'm talking that which your lord and sovereign demands of you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: taxation /i/ speak of is deedbot, nsa, phundation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, the thread kicked off at "<ben_vulpes> trinque's doing a major launch this week, i think we'll be lucky to get much of a peep out of him at all"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and no, not really the latter)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we live a few blocks from each other, drink each others wine, fuck each others girls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he has his thing, and i mine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, no not this year.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: definitely in comparison to that required to survive in fiatland
(trilema) ben_vulpes: taxation you, i trinque pay to la serenissima is rather small
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: interesting parallel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque's doing a major launch this week, i think we'll be lucky to get much of a peep out of him at all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: re vultures < aaah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm just pointing out that pastebin's not allowed in these parts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i've no idea how trinque's configured deedbot-, that's not my problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lf/cr idiocy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felipelalli: pastebin is banned.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: "schmoes" << that they have anything to invest in the first place is due to the american democracy/communism thing, from there we quickly hit the "one day bitcoin will make us all royals, and when can i lop the peasants heads off again?" checkpoint
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> three vultures lost in the east. << i do not get this reference.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here we are again at the "no people outside the forum" checkpoint.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how did octavianus meet his adoptees?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sipahi << yeah. that berber book's really good.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: by their own stolen children.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: worse, americans with a do-gooder complex.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a time tested model for this, and it's the noble family.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who though will start this monastery today?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, i recall.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more importantly, hammer idiocy out of each succesive generation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta breed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "proof of existence" << sad story of not being in the wot and ergo not mattering.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the americans "CEO" on hookers and blow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: even the CEO will drain his accounts after...10? 20? years without income.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how many is N to you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla, felipelalli: identity is not the important bit. trustworthiness is. no drivers license or electric bill proves trustworthiness.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one of the reasons i'm not targeting macos for RI builds.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apple is pretty much anathema to the #b-a approach to compute.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the ghost of steve is yet prepared to rip it out from beneath us
(trilema) ben_vulpes: always keeping in mind that it is a rug
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we've been looking into the apple "enterprise deployment" story of late
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nearer that southern port city
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it'll probably be well outside of city limits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah she's a chuckle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI3tGgD4nMk << "americans ruin everything" - lady v
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: oh hey can we do the whorehouse cafe?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i *would* leave if i *could*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but muh jerb"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are the limiting reactants?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: body building fat reserves to park toxic crap in?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (for symmetry)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what was diet prior?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: an exercise in slimming down a rubenesque babe lead to...liver prazlems?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mustard gas...again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the gist, though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm unfamiliar with this hypothesis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you've seen the auschwitz photos...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: by the time the corpses are available, they'll have scavenged their own fat prior to dying.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some day, ideally.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in practice, i'm unaware of anyone offering to manage btc between MPOE/BBET/NSA/BTC for a fee.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, my hypothesis is that the current us style of "just stick the money in the market and get returns" is slated for the guillotine under the new regime.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am i misusing these terms?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: allocating capital oneself between MPOE/BBET/BTC
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: something like MPIF
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: who's taking investment?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funding is as fast as a confirmation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: of necessity, it must die.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this "passive investment" routine is a holdover from the fiat days.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trust cannot be automatic, is built slowly, must be on personal terms, and contracts are always active.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all of the above is why btcjam is a scam from the -assets perspective.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for their own continued health.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at the very least they need to be in the WoT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one breed of good scammatrons.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a good scammatron has totally legitimate uses and users.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aside one can't actually invest in BTCJam as such.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felipelalli: aha, that's why all the butthurt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat likbez, asciilifeform, thank you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for example: why ecc ram?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i honestly don't even know how to build a workstation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: you don't say!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doubt that i'll have time, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd like to build out a workstation this year.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis why i use it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: invariably
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b) it is the product of the devil, with all sorts of odd shit going on under the hood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well a) marginal in that if you can hack an os x box, you are able to hack a linux or bsd box, and why prefer the consumer os to something designed for use by professionals
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where's that bash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but macos is marginal, and not at all a thing that i'm interested in hosting bitcoind on.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6 will be too polite about this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [19:50] is anyone actually trying to build on apple's os ? << no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <trinque> jurov: had the thought once in meditation that I was always... hm... thinking everything I've ever experienced all the time << i've not read it but this was the proust routine, yeah?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> silkscreened business cards are ++ << lmk when you pony up for dies and presses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: that chip whisperer is going to hurt some butts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also you'll wnt to talk to kakobrekla about permavoice in any event
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ask kakobrekla about it, he's savvy to bot dynamics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poop into #freenode, get cloak for it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or register it or however that works
(trilema) ben_vulpes: associate it with your account by specifying your existing email iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make a new nick
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that looks like a good, trinque
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(trilema) ben_vulpes: practicing hitting back?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: per earlier thread, now is the time to lay in magnetic drives, chips and ram.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm no then my memory's flawed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for ssds sure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: meatfilters kicked in.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: did it not work?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda what i'm getting at
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo drinks on occasions?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: aws drops those packets iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: get that thing on your account and get it upped permanently, would you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov linked a thing, some 50 us/mo iirc for dedis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd love me a dedi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: untrustworthy, but what is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for all the hate it gets around here, aws is pretty solid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shit goes goes down and comes up more frequently than an expert cocksucker.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, 'good'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "yeah i'll take the whole thing sink luser and hooker"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: otherwise this is a new one for me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <jurov> my opinions were formed by several friends eating disinfo that was later traced back to RT, with sink and hooker << hook line and sinker perhaps the phrase?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the helicopter is an easily pricked balloon.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what platform did you use? OpenBSD?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or lol *any* linux?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyone know about issetugid on debian?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: your pogo saga's a good start
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: it was pretty illuminating to me as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you compiled against libressl, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in the meantime, i'm going long this girl.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to focus on murder and mayhem for my shartup business plan
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well this has been enlightening
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol let's not get ahead of ourselves now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not so much long amazon as short everyone else.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: better be long amazon than basically anyone else in the atoms biz in the us.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: require vast orchestration overhead to survive. not like pgp and bitcoin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they make no money.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: amazon baffles me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah but bezos?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not the shared hosting company.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the dropshipper.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and you i i think
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well aws -> amazon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm kind of horrified at the notion that aws will outlive the usg.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevertheless, it obviates aws/fedex/ups' obligation to invest in the road.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol the biker is aware of this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: density of package delivery targets?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the (national) gas tax hasn't even been bumped to account for inflation since...93?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who knows what strange is in the former.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: a distributed binary is not the same a binary cooked up on ones own box.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no but that's not actually a cost to aws business either in the glorious communist states where more dollars are simply printed to maintain infrastrucutre.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably not, so let's model it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (only efficient use of a jetpack is to go up as high as possible and then glide sidways as far as possible.)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quadrotor not even having a glide rate so to speak, and suffering from the jetpack problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways. point i'm trying to make is that the fuel cost for putting boxes in trucks and moving them around is vastly lower than fuel costs for putting boxes on quadrotors and derping them around town.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quadrotor, u savvy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so they've been banging on in public about delivery of small packages by quadrotor.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: up there with aapl in drop shipping.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: amazon, u savvy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i...apparently cannot argue this one effectively.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with batteries
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sideways jetpack problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: counterparty fell back to "but don't you see the value in being the company that builds out quadcopters that can actually fly shit places?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> but they don’t understand what the calculations are really telling them, like Searle’s chinese room but with numbers. << i tried to have a conversation about amazon's quadcopter delivery system, using an ergodic analysis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure boss you got it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i knew when my pinky was stretching for enter that something was wrong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also probably i have to write an opinion piece as to what the fuck a reference implementation is for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://qntra.net/2015/03/bitcoin-foundation-reaches-release/ << might be worth calling out why a static build is noteworthy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which given their water problems should surprise precisely nobody.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the good veggies, provided you step outside of the corporate-blessed brand sanctuary and actually go to a "farmers market" or the "first permanent tent structure within city limits" are -- surprise -- cheaper than the lettuces shipped up from cali.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ^ this is solvable, albeit at astonishing cost << near you maybe. not out here in the sticks.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> and just about everyone i know has some version of this << my parabolic testing facility, f'r instance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> besides, something tells me you'll salivate after the vibe of any place that's not washington fucking dc. << no but you see "muh jaeorb"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> timisoara. it thinks itself a major romanian town, but it's more like... well... portland, basically. << dude the capital of the occupied coastal territories is remarkable only for being isolated from the retardation of both california and seattle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: build roads out of shit with high thermal expansion coefficients in washington dc, shit's going to crack before your eyes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> where nothing ever seems to get constructed << oh give over, it's benign retardation
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