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(trilema) ben_vulpes dodges entropy again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thirty seconds later, "you know, i'm not the sort of guy to insist on a full foot-down stop from bikers at every stop sign. but DUDE! you came through that intersection at easily over 20 mph!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i accidentally a stop sign at oh 30 mph on my bike the other day, right in front of a copper.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maybe this socialist utopia's the last holdout. federales have been leaning hard on them for cracking a few too many crackpot brainpans, and beating up on brown folks.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: don't cities operate their own police force?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: third world nomenclature isn't really my thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cops are scawwy what with their failure to understand basic physics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: easy to do, hard to do well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TomServo: oh, you've actually cracked the case and everything?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TomServo: ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, the part where pogo boots and then attaches to a nc instance running on your host machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i need a fucking quest tree to keep track of all this shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoinrpg -> control the network quest -> bitcoind quest (now apparently depends on buildroot quest, which depends on gentoo quest, so may as well pogoquest as well)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TomServo: have you accomplished netconsole yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they may have some slave in the third world cranking aggregation on their blog, perhaps that's what's got you spun.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: integrity check to mircea_popescu's symbol table please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, coinsetter's not liked around here but grok i not how 'tis a newspaper.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: your symbol table's borked
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cavirtex acquired by coinsetter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: jekyll and hyde in america gone horribly wrong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes but whence the 1cm number -- whence!?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's an interesting normalization, mircea_popescu.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 1cm doesn't make sense in that 1 cm is huge if close and tiny if far away
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> listen to me, never read text not > 1 cm tall. << why aren't you talking about arc-seconds?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what I *really* want, though, is not even a desk but 2 six-axis arms that keep my keyboard and monitors in the appropriate ergonomic relationship.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a van with a setup akin to that first link in Snow Crash of which i was always enamore.d
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh yeah something like that, trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but for now, this is adequate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: indubitably.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tain't enough.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've got 2 24" monitors.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my goal is primarily to cram as much text on the screen as possible before losing structure or wordshape
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it's a bit more complex than that. fontsize is nearly irrelevant, as i parse visually first by the structure of the code and then by wordshape. mispellings are rare, due to backround jobs that compile/evaluate text buffers on save and linters that have rules about symbol definition.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looked like an x at this tiny fontsize
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "wheels have had a shaky beginning - several have fallen over when their rotational inertia dropped below critical stability thresholds or ran into other unforseen obstacles."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is madness, man.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brownouts and power outages *do not happen* here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dc really is the center of all american rot, isn't it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: 'what did you do to it' << walked down a dark alley all unsuspecting like
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty, asciilifeform!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i am behind the times, but is there a buildroot config that's been passed around?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "navigate the buildroot menuconfig"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chapter two in assquest:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen thestringpuller
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;seen thestringpuller
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i take some solace in the confusion it'll bring to my poor lizard obama agents.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know how to pay the reciprocity fee, jackholes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a new "reciprocity fee" document?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the entry fee is registered to the *old* passport.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah i uh changed my passport to my new name
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this, i suppose, is what i get for being a us subject
(trilema) ben_vulpes: turns out the argentines want *translated* court documents demonstrating name change, *and* they want the translations *notarized* and they want the *notarized shit* bearing a apostille, which today i learned to be a thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good afternoon, serenissimists
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gj in any event nubbins`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hafta upgrade from os x 10.9 to 10.10 to cut ios builds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mwell i'm off for a bit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: me pogo's at the office
(trilema) ben_vulpes: uh what next
(trilema) ben_vulpes: awww shit yee i have sshd into the gentoo box!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: are you using udev or eudev?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll probably eventually figure it out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i have an enp0s3 as well, don't really know what to do to turn it into/use it as eth0 tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but hory shit have i learned things about the linux shitpile
(trilema) ben_vulpes: running behind.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm still making a gentoo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pressed shitboard all the way down?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i-i'm scared, t-trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but compiled kernel and gentoo - simply refuses. indubitably attributable to operator error.)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (live cd connects through virtualization layer just happily
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (*damned* frustrating, that networking thing)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, that's enough for one day.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have a gentoo that comes up as expected - but sans eth0, and damned if i can figure out why.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, statistics at that number.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: from bcp: "--unix-lines \n Make sure that all copied files use Unix style line endings." << hyuu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ~FIN DU PRELUDE~
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "...ben_vulpes finally kicked off a kernel compile.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gentoo quest prelude
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes off to find videos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't worry Adlai, nubbins` filters the true crackpots out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "you can't model the universe with anything short of a universe."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevertheless, minor errors in the models will compound.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maxwell's demon?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: models to model other people's models
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "ah ah, mister! you can't get me that easily! it's models all the way out!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: using only a single model is a risky move itself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: de toqueville wrote about it at length - 'the old regime and the revolution' was the title of the translation i read
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai: french revolution is indeed a good tale of the hidden power structure (french bureaucracy) toppling the figureheads.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: how'd you figure that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9321313 << "i don't get a say in this new world order and that sucks!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the meantime, i think i found the x86_64 stuff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a spectacular derping on my part i suppose
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/autobuilds/ << what am i not understanding about why there is no "64" on that page at all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well now i'm wondering if i even got the right stage 3
(trilema) ben_vulpes hacks gems out of the temple walls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i'm basically just walking the list of processor types in make menuconfig
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: when building your gentoo kernel did you use menuconfig, and if so did you run into errors along the lines of "the cpu you selected does not support the x86_64 instruction set"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "5. severe boredom,"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "4. the learning experience,"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "there are a number of reasons why a large proportion of Gentoo users choose to configure their kernels manually:"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm just a wee confused at the notion that there's some sort of relationship between cadbury and its 'customers' that cadbury is 'throwing under the bus'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's just a new milking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: under the bus?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: hopefully you're taking notes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ya me either
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: how would one go about determining what parts of boost weren't needed and then compiling boost without those bits?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so it needs to be a 32 bit vm to compile pythongs for arm?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hola pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes returns to gentoo quest
(trilema) ben_vulpes: state including libs it needs to run?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because it does not come complete with everything required for it to run, and depends on state of local machine doing the compiling?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are the criteria for 'packagehood'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "linked at all" << (bear with my unsavvy, please) so gcc instructed to build statically should fail to link libnss because it dynamically links to system libs, but gcc instructed to build dynamicall should not fail under these conditions?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the bug discovered in gcc is that it *warns* about this but does not die when run with static compile flags?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so the 'static' build i produced on my deb 6 VM wasn't *truly* static, but claimed to be even though it dynamically linked into libnss on whatever system on which it ran successfully?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: virtualbox
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: VM. no metal in this hobbit-hole not running macbsd.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`, trinque: any particular vintage of gentoo recommended?
(trilema) ben_vulpes sacrifices today on the altar of lizard hitler
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess today is gentoo quest
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm looking for the 'how to gentoo without systemd for noobs' link
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s gentoo systemd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are you using for virtualization? vagrant/virtualbox?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 3.5 apiece or summed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is that to compile buildroot itself or using buildroot to compile linuxen?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: are you working with buildroot from within a gentoo vm on your mac?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm particularly frustrated at verifying sigs and what has one.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you do email in emacs? i've been using mu4e and am about out of patience - coming back around to "show me the ancient tools that handle this ancient problem".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't like it, it's just the ad-hoc thing that works today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: you and i can collaborate any time that we want, by derping at our respective repos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does *not* compile to my requirements, i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: compiles to my requirements.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, nubbins -- sanity!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the shitty thing doesn't even compile yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobody's collaborating on anything man
(trilema) ben_vulpes: attempt to compile et
(trilema) ben_vulpes: branch, apply patch, run tests in vm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: i keep my own vcs system and apply patches directly from mu4e
(trilema) ben_vulpes ponders his mental calendar
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> you know, like "what part of the us is nubs from ?" << bad example. canada is just unannexed right now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all i care about is rockets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am actually a horrible jew
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought that was a british/irish thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: death by embarrass
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know nothinggggg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hurr durr ustard dun no geograpfiez
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, "russia"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm what part of russia is he from?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, eu that part of the world more than us.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they're so down they make *you* want to kill yourself!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i like to complain as much as the next jew, but these russians!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-04-2015#1085490 << one of the things i admire about you, asciilifeform, is your charming ability to paint just the most desolate picture of anyone's future for them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: old logs are a trip, i guess.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins` going on about hif, steak, puss...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the whole log section is hilarious - some twenty lines in each direction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: read the linked thread!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more ribbing nubbins`, really
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tee hee i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey robert viragh fuck off quit emailing me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you're in the wot that is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: negrate the fucker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Cogburn: you savvy wot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just so's i can take ye seriously?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Cogburn: get in the wot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get your keys sorted, boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: welcome to the new world order
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't trust ya tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bryce will also tell you that reputation doesn't matter either.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: huehuehuehu i got a large seed investment for ya right here buddy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "The project will be a massive undertaking requiring a large seed investment. "
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess that's what they call anyone who understands math these days.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first a girl, now a cryptographer?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's a cryptographer nao?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i recall correctly - it's been a few days
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my debian as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "imh" << in my house?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: naw, you're too old to be a noob anymore.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: up yrs, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every 2 lines i have to hare off to the internet - "buildroot" "qemu"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not the number of lines but the maaaadness described herein
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude these logs are dense
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ein popescu!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: are you coming to con3?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surely my finest work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ('here, let me duct tape a bunch of libs together so you get emails when your derps break the cpp compiled into the android code')
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh yeah. i did a continuous integration thinger for an android project recently.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: talk about unexamined assumptions...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, we need a build target. one. not the accidental build target of debian 6 that fell out of my archaeology project.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tell me about it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it doesn't work how is it a candidate now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mod6> [14:57] anyway, that's the deal. we need something that we can work with; one supported environment, blessed by alf. << asciilifeform, what's the One True Build Target for La Serenissima?
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