(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: would be horrified at the state of my internal network
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actiontec pk5001a
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and this /retarded/ home router does not want to accept static IP declarations.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and let the fucking laptop run out of batteries 2 seconds after running `emerge dhcpcd`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i got the whole orchestra wired up, stage3 installed, everything mounted, uefi boot boss vanquished
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey y'all might appreciate my latest gentoo quest oopsie
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tonight, tonight...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i swear we've done this thread
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which'd that be?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can be. context dependent. above usage is just assumption that mircea_popescu can magic gurlz out of the air in bsas gutter, river plate shores, nile and probably inside the pyramids even
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well it's urban dictionary, they're obsessed with their betters
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shorthand in my world for cunt.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also wrong.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm sure you can find cooze wherever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: met them through a south african who coached the greek olympic polo? dressage? teams before greece stopped paying for niceties like that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have approximately zero pesos to rub together.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: put together a lovely parillada.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very nice people.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and who raise their children on horses.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the people who live by the river plate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: met the horse people by the river yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and fwiw i'd rather ride a horse too.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and as a matter of fact horses /are/ allowed on the road.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sane places seperate the traffic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a hallmark of a miserable place to live.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, just his spine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he can't imagine a situation in which people are not condemned to his own version of hell.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: later*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it'll be rather easy to turn that into a bloodthirsty hunt for californians alter.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the cultural hatred of cars runs very deep.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah well those are absent and generally reserved for the poverty stricken or physically disabled
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the notion of a functional town only mildly corrupted by cars must be as foreign to you as an atomic dirigible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh the endless blithering of nonsense?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: for my own benefit what do i understand about bike advocacy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: php and c are actually bigger pains in the ass and less useable than any lisp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: oh ffs sit down with clojure for a week if you're so scared
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you should put a wifi in that kid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean traffic calming is good for children!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but airbnb started out with traffic calming!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with just a touch of retraining he could be right at home in a bike advocacy group
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aren't there a million open source for 'em to get cycled through? each no doubt in need of deproblematizing some codebase of genderered nouns?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu may have his reasons for being so friendly and welcoming but bearing a deep suspicion of new faces in #b-a has saved me untold heartbreak (and no doubt riches, if i were to listen to robert viragh's ilk)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean poor Azelphur
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382587 << hehuahuahaehua
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382516 << perhaps i am up too late, but i cannot make heads nor tails of this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tis the age of the cmos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: badass
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and i'm going to guess most of this history is on bitcointalk.org
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ideograms, man.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man imma have to learn chinese at this rate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucking operating systems
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i'll do that while i install os x on this laptop for the umpteenth time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has anyone written this up anywhere?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every time i look into pool payout schemes my eyes glaze over and my fraud alert systems kick in.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so what's the lowdown on the various pool payout maths?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;help nethash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did anyone ever run the numbers on what it would naively cost to lease the hashpower required to mint a block a day?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when you say that it comes to 2MW's worth.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not then.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: non?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that has a lot of assumptions on mining chip efficiency boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: petawatts?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nethash is a joke is what it is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: schooled me rather hard on a good example around c3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: approximation is a nifty wunderwaffen.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: someone missed dimensional analysis in school?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;nethash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so one'd need ~ 1/144th of nethash?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #definitelynofuckinnode
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what was the calculation you ran to determine the hashpower necessary to nail a block more or less every 24 hours?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: writing software fills a boy with hate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #nodeps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: choo choo!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm sure polarbeard can get on that train
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes let's compile libcurl into the reference implementation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the log history that you're missing is that blockheight is the only non usg-shared time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polarbeard: good idea except that syncing reference implementations to the best of my knowledge don't know the current blockheight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didn't phf do something with timestamps?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck you o'clock lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: led*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the meantime, try to understand why we use 'v', and why your failure to do so has lead me to stomp on the ground like a petulant child.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, interesting thing, polarbeard, perhaps i shall test it some day along side the tools written by people i trust like mod6 and trinque and asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes has now filed reports with whip-crackers, can go home to die in sweet embrace, will be off shortly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i saw some turds, asked some questions, am not entirely thrilled with answers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have to admit, my eyes glazed over.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is 'yagni' optimization.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: violates principles of v, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why won't you answer that one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but more importantly the patches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diffsplit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i didn't know any better" is, for the record, an entirely acceptable response.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and for the umpteenth time polarbeard /why/ split the damn patches and introduce a million new dependencies?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i literally do not care and the spending of time figuring out why the derps do what they do is best left as an exercise to good men like mister backtick who actually enjoy hanging out on bitcointalk.org all day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and no this is not "electron" this is why did isaac fuck ahmeds goat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the dependency chain of "well i work for satan because i got this useless phd that i got because i had a masters i didn't know what to do with because i got a bachelors that i similarly didn't understand the purpose of because i was told to go to college and" it never fucking ends and i don't really give a shit about the root cause for whatever retardation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is like me giving a shit about what gavin and company do and derp about on reddit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, whichever sins?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in reference to?
(trilema) ben_vulpes is the undereducated american today as every day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whomever?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i care not why whoever sins however.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polarbeard: look at my contribution history. it is very nearly 100% reimplementations of that which asciilifeform or mod6 or trinque have written first.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polarbeard: should reimplementing toposort be impossibly painful for you...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1381913 << and that's eating the capital of all sins
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why split the patches, polarbeard, quit dodging the question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1381849 << more dependencies, and again i ask /why/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if so easy to review, similarly easy to explain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: electron beam and a good set of sights
(trilema) ben_vulpes: editor of the dirigible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nano!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the mind, it doth boggle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (or two man-years, yes)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "what, can't afford 10 dollars for your text editor?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i routinely mock users who have the escape wired into their brains
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol over there too?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some "we're going to revolutionize editing text by pretending emacs was never a thing"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or Sublime Dicks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd wager this one uses Atom
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you can smell the users of fashionable editors a mile away
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/90d9a921f084ed4ae942#file-buildgen-L30 << enough with the aligned shits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: japanese for-placement-only netdrones could probably snag one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we have yet to arrive at state-issued flats for all but the most deeeeeserving of poor.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381723 << which is mind-boggling given the thing has a what turbofan?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381688 << 'tis just a step on the road to the obvious solution of entirely disposable versions of all the above
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, go on
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was talking about several things!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes. that's a joke about stock in startups.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis in the logs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: again with the not reading the threads omg!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: time flies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (tr) (m)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's good for the envirowhatever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "wipe your hands on your pants, plebe"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good old anemic hand dryers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can see it though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude heaven forfend
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apparently i'm so scary i'm the only one taking the wine^H^H^H^Htoilet paper home
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well it doesn't actually work, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381525 << same exact story here. californians and it only happens once per year.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: toilet paper, and i ain't talkin equity!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol you didn't read the thread didja
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well that's novel and depressing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this 'up elevator'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clearly, there's no 'worthy' but 'demands'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: relatedly, how does one grow worthy of the golden dirigible? kill everyone between you and it? does this hold for the smith? what about brunel?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am now confronted with the difficult question of what the fuck i'm doing even owning my own stock.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: life would be more like you don't get them when you need them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rubs the wrath itch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i wonder what alf gets out of it, so competent as he is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: years of slaving for nuggets of insight once or thrice a quarter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways this place is amazing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol golden dirigible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, thanks for the insight.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i realized that the shartup bezzletron actually got this right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i just had the weirdest experience
(trilema) ben_vulpes: explain the parallel in a little more detail?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and as a result, my equitizing the staff is miserably difficult.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucktarded teen still gets hoodwinked with worthless paper regularly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had to explain how buy-and-hold of non-dividend-paying-stocks the other day wasn't forgoing compounding.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ofc not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wall street and congress got a hold of the notion and now there are all sorts of arcane bezzle-quirements like "must get valued by a state-blessed valutron", "must be investment grade paper" etc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the insane fucking rules around ESOPs. i tell you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funny you should mention that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tax*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey man i'm just trying to get cash in the kids pockets while paying as little taxes on it as possible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see the problem with embezzling a reasonable amount of toilet paper. it's a valid business expense, and the staff don't get taxed for it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: except for the ones who are not and who don't want anything to do with my asbestos gloves.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the salesmen are also entirely interchangeable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: glorified secretarial work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in bezzleland at least.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think that i hate managing projects.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: woof
(trilema) ben_vulpes: certainly felt like it, driving across town to school and back every day.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great vans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i grew up in a suburban
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'sold now' is not under consideration.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all the good cars have miserable lines.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what does 'korean' mean for build quality and lifetime?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: know anything about the honda passport model?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thank you pete_dushenski!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the reason why cops call it the web is because, The online is a 'Web' of lies and/or Computers are Satans kingdom on earth"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "As always when a large group of people without prior exposure to Jace are introduced to his world, every single existing theory on his authenticity was brought up and discussed in great detail, as were questions concerning the state of mental health care in the United States, the situation of veterans, and the practicality of using a Prius in a street race." << ladies and gentlemen, i present...my peers in the eyes of american law.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AND NOW I BLESS THEE WITH THE HOLY BIGNUM THIS FUNCTION PASSES ALL AROUND ITSELF
(trilema) ben_vulpes breathes through the nausea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucking pointers and in place mutation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh cpp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: need to read more. let's revisit tomorrow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah i see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: will read more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: roger.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: forgive further derpitude, but how on earth does `BN_CTX_get(ctx)` return two different values?
(trilema) ben_vulpes still reading
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay, fLowS it is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i get the conditional branching on the flag, but now how the identical code in the branches enforces high/low-s-ness
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i may simply be exhausted, but i don't see immediately how the code inside the two branches is supposed to work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i set you on the btcd snipe hunt aeons ago iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1380586 << this is my fault and i am terribly sorry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'regenesis' << actually start over?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: WHY NOT WRITE A STYLE GUIDE WHILE WE'RE AT IT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'scouring of spaces' means the tab-replacement?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1380503 << aye, to the extent that i 'learned cpp', and to the extent that i can even be said to 'know' any other programming language.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/21/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-ii/ << seconded for an in-depth discussion of the static build crapocalypse, and why we even bother with static builds anyways at the very least
(trilema) ben_vulpes: goals being low tco, ease of finding parts and cost of maintenance hours.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski also, considering a jeep cherokee or a toyota land cruiser of 2000 and 89 vintage for babywagon, any thoughts on either?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski aha, ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clever enough to get in trouble.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh clever
(trilema) ben_vulpes waves to yves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, ms. smith made the log finally!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: btw why do you prefer tabs to 4 spaces?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379662 << and how do you feel about mixed carriage returns and crlfs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: consistency of code shape is a thing for mortals like myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379618 << dunno about this. laborious for certain, and would make the whole thing 10x more likely to 'fit in head'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379613 << strictly disallowed in my shop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: didja ever share an actual patch for the code you're working on? brief face-grep through logs reveals nada
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > thought questions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only 'colour warz' i'm aware of are the preference of crackers for north africans over african americans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (or am i to understand etc etc)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: you mean to say that you ditched evil-org for native org?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: do you org-mode with evil-mode?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i rarely use arrow keys to navigate, preferring instead to search through the buffer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and did i read that mircea_popescu wants 'semantic extraction' built into emacs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i use helm for buffer selection, and winner mode to get the windows back where they were.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: window-jump and winner-mode make for...a not horrible experience.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: y'ever try window-jump?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey it's warm and concave
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but do they call me isaac the banker?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i built those and five more just like them throughout the fertile crescent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and you know the other one over in mecca?