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(trilema) ben_vulpes: cancer of the semilollin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: salesbabes don't wear spandex, boothbabes do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and JuliaTourianski_ a great salesbabe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is an implementation detail, punkman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (swanky, one might say)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (swank, that is)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: v. cool, phf.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (hi trinque!)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heck of a journey tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: popular place with the ru folk in the area
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whats the connection between key and file hash algos?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Jacmet: another thing worth pointing out are that sha1 and md5 are obsolete
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Jacmet: buildroot is working rather niftily.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Jacmet: are you K?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yup.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brainfuck etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i read 'tc' in the sense of 'can express arbitrary actions', in the vein of the old joke about programming in $shitlang: "hey, it's turing complete, we can make it do whatever we need"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these are the original hooks? i misread
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what even was the point of the schemehooks?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as demonstrated!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the phood is phr33!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: it's a hobby
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'easy development environments for derpvelopers on macintosh!'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, 'twas some abortion pulled in via 'atlas', 'hashicorp'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to be frank, i have no idea how this gentoo image was even built in the first place.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i figured this for more of a "half bottle of wine in a girl's butt" report. entertainment, not science.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this perversion even worth running down?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gcc (Gentoo 4.6.3 p1.13, pie-0.5.2) 4.6.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i didn't even check.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: under ubuntu 14.04 running make in buildroot exits as above
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: under gentoo the vm simply gives up on life
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: share your weird!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here's the last line, asciilifeform: x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
(trilema) ben_vulpes gives up again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in other nyooz of the weird and strange saga of ben_vulpes endeavoring to set up a reference implementation on his heathen macintosh, buildroot fails to compile in linux virtual machines of all sorts of flavors
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > 9 connections << coracle currently serving 13 strangers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol thread support did it huh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my sha1 and md5 match those in k's .sign
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform produced legacy hashes, they match the ones i have on disk and the ones you have right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's just another thing in the way of wrapping this up, mod6 .
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the army we have"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: c42fdd39cb2bc46804a86a7d7b2605bd3cd9ddcb365c4e5a1fb147eb02b234fc31a70c8140be2f4d27cd371c84e0c6701f8cb47697dd1c18dd0e0cce784aa07a
(trilema) ben_vulpes imagines stan's face shooped onto the manul
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ha wow did the shitgnomes snip that mod6 ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also that signature is disturbingly short
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: while there's no harm in checking the .sign, i don't know what it buys us
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: perhaps hard code the hashes from korsgaard's signature and verify those?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's javascript also doesn't work in every browser
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait come back
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you keep irc working right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitbet is broken kakobrekla
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless mp^H^Hmods decide 'overall' has some magical meaning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: alphago can "win" with handicap of 12 stones and that bet goes green
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that bet is going to surprise some people
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no mention of handicap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell trinque yo hey yo hey
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yo where da trinque at
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought the vacation was already scheduled, hence the manic deadline pressure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gernika: megalol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "trick question: first they magic veggieburgers into existence to pretend like they ate something wholesome before desert."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "so you leave a hamplanet in a room with frosting, cornchips, guacamole, and cookies. which do they eat first?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes waits for the punchline
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not like gavin's going to steal a march on you or anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: go take a vacation dood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: emerge --ask =app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.19
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: =app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.19
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: mine *does* verify the signature, but not in the build-bitcoin-v999o*.sh context
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gernika: gpg version?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if asciilifeform hadn't already declared himself to not touch anything that brought anything down from the net he'd be complaining about all of the above as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: nobody's saying that buildroot should be v-verified, but that not isolating buildscripts from the user gpg keyring is...not great.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah the v-wrapping build scripts don't isolate themselves from the user keyring.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: you'll note that's more or less exactly what my v does
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless it's lying and it is verifying the signature anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: because gpg says the signature isn't actually verified!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: waitwait hang on
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246638 << this has been a known issue since august 2015
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (girl hands me child, i place child on floor, "you know precisely what i do when you hand him to me, you could just save us the fifteen seconds and put him on the floor yourself")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and not just a 'you' and a very sleep deprived and useless me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: are you even certain there was a 'we' running this a few weeks ago?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "what verification error?!:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mine sailed through merrily
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gernika does your script go so far as to exit at that point?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just snarking phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so does that mean no parenscript? :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i appreciate boring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how are you shipping to this thing? hacking directly on the running lisp image?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah jesus fuck javascript
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yeah change
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or would that be horrendously dumb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can has submit onSelect ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does not work when tabbing to the dropdown and hitting the spacebar
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh interesting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but when i click the dropdown some js takes over and doesn't let me select anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: btcbase keeps getting niftier
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that sweet song of "clean socks for you! clean shirts for you!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but aha i do recall that mjr and pgp were in the same room a few times
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol no i do not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: no, pgp.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Phil Potter \n Chief Strategy Officer \n Bitfinex"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wow and world trade financial group is no longer even a thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha phil went derp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how this came to be i do not know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: yes, this script uses the user keyring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 b-b-...5.sh works fine on something approaching a sane computer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think that i understand the windows comment now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: old habits do die hard.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: strictly a release tool for the free world, then.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm still trying to cook up a syllogism over here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks mod6, no need to kill yourself driving at 90mph
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am not well versed enough in the history of gcc and llvm to understand this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'code monkey' excuse me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the turning of a compiler which should simply ingest code and shit elfs into a developer-centric tool?
(trilema) ben_vulpes fully adrift now, without even a sun to tell east from west
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i should simply expect misery from you every time i bring up the topic of how a v might work then?
(trilema) ben_vulpes is hit by a particularly unpleasant revelatory wave
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so bear with me: how is 'v' not groupthink incarnate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from 'how the wot is attacked'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: try like i'm five, the windows comparison is shorting me out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how is this "user's script" not precisely the windows release?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is the "bitcoin as these gentlemen"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you will get a release patch and you will press to it. there is your hammer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *i* want to press specified patch sets without doing so by hand.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i am laboring under the misapprehension that v should be useful for something other than putting software on mircea_popescu's box
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you - want to sink nails. i want to pull them out occasionally.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless you expect it to be only and ever a release tool and not a tool for people actually working on the thing to use in their workflow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what you and i need from V diverge.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then press to a release patch, fin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what one might say to a V implementation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did i say that you did?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i want everything necessary for malleus and db locks"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not a list of patches a list of *leaves*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes, things are getting faster.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: only if "actual test cycles" only means "#b-a test cycles"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: testing cycle in #b-a is slow as sin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: see the rest of the thread. provide an explicit list of leaves to press.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: well you're not trying to mount a fs from a mac into a gentoo vm i don't think
(trilema) ben_vulpes: blows up on the .gitignore which iirc is an empty file
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suspect it has to do with mounting a filesystem into a vm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i don't think the file hashing mismatch is worth digging into
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and that i suspect gpg means to convey that it is not actually checking the sig.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, just that i keep seeing that error.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just dumb shit mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no i did not go into each idiocy in depth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's right, that part of the build scripts runs with the user gpg keychain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes i have it in my keychain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'd expect an entirely different error should that have been the case
(trilema) ben_vulpes: going to have fun running that the fuck down.
(trilema) ben_vulpes throws up hands in disgust
(trilema) ben_vulpes: previous hash mismatches appear to be something wacky with this gentoo vm on my macbook
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i am *still* getting this with build-bitcoin-v99995.sh: gpg: WARNING: not a detached signature; file 'buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz' was NOT verified!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also murdered my terminal session
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: script does not work for me, complains about mismatched hashes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: french toast is what shall be delivered, bbl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: savagery lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: didja run off?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh mod6 does this thing actually kill my terminal session when it dies?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: press an explicit set of leaves?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ok ok
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah shit that has no descendents?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: explain the use of parallel leaves?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one thing and one thing only.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have always said this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pressing to a head should simply recurse to the root of that head
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i tried for a very long time with erc in a seperate emacs instance running on a server as a bouncer, and the *constant* muscle memory confusion over the subtle differences between emacs-in-terminal and emacs-with-gui drove me up a wall
(trilema) ben_vulpes: smpt SASL << wut
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very distracting when it comes to getting work done.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i actually don't want irc in emacs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: no bullllyyyyyy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can close xcode
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's the weekend
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh thank god
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man fuck weechat's half-assed implementation of emacs/readline input controls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i was actually looking for tha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: process tech at least can hold out hope they'll move into mgmt if they go to night school and get that b.s.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and then there's the economic differences: barista can dream of what -- going on tour? owning their own coffee shop? writing a best selling memoir about...running a coffee shop and going on tour?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we were making probes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but perhaps i only ever worked in environments of rarefied tech capabilities
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm talking about attention to detail, understanding wtf is happening, why the suit is a necessary thing, why the sticky pads at each door...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not even talking about the incubating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "what it takes 6 months to train a barista from nothing, and 6 months to make a useful process tech!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of meat labor, i was slamming the 27-year old baristas some staffer was browsing on tinder last night and someone made the hilarious comment that bunnies are just as hot-swappable as baristas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: masks and shots were never terribly affected by moore's law itself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: simulate a whole computer, shock, awe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: neat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: better than biodiesel!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: expectations stemmed from previous topic
(trilema) ben_vulpes was not expecting that from phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: too many windows
(trilema) ben_vulpes: such from us institutions now an actual liability on resumes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: similar to the college degree thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: typical usian cow is more enchained by thinking it's necessary to have a car than a better person for having one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, any good?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they don't educate impoverished usians either!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trick question, just go steal one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they don't educate gypsies about anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fertility, huh? how'd you go about selecting for that mircea_popescu ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: right, exactly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've just come to terms with the inevitable future
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you see me laughing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with a whole brood of thieving children to live off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poor and happy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu gets it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: pretty much the plan
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i mean caravan figuratively
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: because i can't stand many others?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: live as an itinerant website mender
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get a caravan
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dun get me wrong imma get a whole litter here sooner or later
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: not me, caz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: about to have 2 kids actually
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but it'd be a starting place.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: lossily
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