(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm sure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > verify with text message (most secure)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i humbly bring lolz: http://www.everetthousehealingcenter.com/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b6: what is an icebreaker?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: homie
(trilema) ben_vulpes: straight from the streets yo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: gutter cascadian lingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b6: ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how through a ddos did you get here?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh i see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417448 << btcfs, btcos, btclisp...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417563 << right, good point. what other commands aren't candidates for porting?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: ah! serialization.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: srsly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up TheRealJohnGalt are we through the netsplit and can i yell at you about your flapping connection yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes really to bed now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sing songs from mary poppins while reading gpg-grams to defeat the high-fidelity microphones!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mirror terminal output and learn to read backwards!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rot13 in your ssh!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more random stacks are more secure!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: aha would you like a stack randomizer while we're at it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: BUT IT'S ONLY USED IN SETGENERATE OMFGWTFBBQ
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AaronvanW: cheers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AaronvanW: you want "sasl", and to instruct whatever client you're using to not join channels until it's done swizzling the sasl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf, asciilifeform: this is a real treat to work with
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, i'm off to bed. thanks punkman.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up AaronvanW
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AaronvanW: your connection details are leaking before your host gets applied
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why not just throw nGPL into WriteSetting?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assigns nLP equivalent to nGPL and throws it down the chute?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: yeah i have nfi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: yeah, a bool there doesn't make sense because it's used as a number of processors.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the others are all trivial
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get-difficulty is a straight rip of the c from bitcoinrpc.cpp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well thanks to phf's fine work, i implemented get-connection-count, get-difficulty, get-generate, and am going to sleep on set-generate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a casual browsing of the source suggests to me that the processor limiting could be excised. thoughts?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#0266 << what does it mean for `nLimitProcessors = nGenProcLimit` to be passed as the argument to WriteSetting? an implicit test returning a boolean doesn't make much sense to me as a value for nLimitProcessors
(trilema) ben_vulpes: half-baked exclamations of disgust are probably best kept here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like...what?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what i appear to have forgotten since the last time i looked into this pit of snakes is that it calls all of the rpc functions in turn to construct the help list.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes, yes. the whole rpc wart must be frozen with nitrogen and smashed into a zillion pieces.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#0119 << well this will have to go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: wasn't that forever ago? or is there a new case
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now to wire in compile-and-load-file
(trilema) ben_vulpes: finds car and set-car!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apropos does a thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: get to bed before i bog you down in emacs config arcana
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a mega patch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doooope
(trilema) ben_vulpes: herp derp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nope, eval error unbound
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ^^ to haunt your dreams
(trilema) ben_vulpes: error in process filter: net-read error: (cl-assertion-failed (cl-plusp length))
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Connecting to Swank on port 1336..
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nn phf great work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: age trumps r/w load eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: full of bad ideas tonight, me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mebbe call it "press party"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah, i figured.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also signers line i think is broken
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: consider linking to sigs from patch page?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ^^ natively on the mac
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #> (btc-connections)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you people seem to think that i actually handle the rods myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'll probably want to re-grease the decompilator with some euros while we're at it, that never hurts and can frequently improve end-user experience
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i recommend a thorough course of benjies, piped straight through the developer funnel.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myup, looks like y'all got a wad of javascript
(trilema) ben_vulpes kicks tires, spits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ho ho ho
(trilema) ben_vulpes ducks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clearly you need more to do
(trilema) ben_vulpes shrugs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh huh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey phf this btcbase thing would rule with anchored line numbers on patches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha i assumed, just thought it funny how quickly that number got bigger and by how much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heheheh strbuffsize goes from 256 to 2048
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what a night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heavens to betsy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holy fuckadoodle phf delivars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: init file, scuse me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Error: If Shiva is enabled, MUST specify init file!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lemme see if it shits to disk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least, complains of no shiva flags
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf, asciilifeform: where is an appropriate place for custom trb scheme, and what mechanism should load it? just appending to the bottom of init.scm feels wrong.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is idiomatic c and scheme?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: and in the c function declarations?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is it inane of me to ask about hyphen/underscore conventions in shiva.cpp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: okok! point taken.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm off to waft the child through hipstergenic clouds of pot smoke
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, rather neet. looking forward to shortening my loop up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're a real rubro now phf!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i imagined that running buildroot wouldn't make sense on a bsdalike
(trilema) ben_vulpes: v. cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nifty, phf!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/alive/aside
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dash/hyphen conventions alive, ^^ asciilifeform, phf, mod6_, mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #> (btc_connections)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how bout dem clang scripts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay i'll leave that and the slime work to the real artisans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > allowing for reentry << bleeee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell trinque BEHOLD http://www.businessinsider.com/meta-glasses-could-be-future-of-work-2016-2?r=DE&IR=T
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: mebbe rewrite the syncing loop?
(trilema) ben_vulpes afk for a bit, if not the eve
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i don't quite know yet. i'm just barely a code-technician, creativity and imagination's another 5-7 years off for me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought we considered that glass left on the floor for barefoot burglars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quite the netsplit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: satoshi bless the noobs, for they bring lulz and drama.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ^^ nifty, asciilifeform! thanks for bearing with my thickness.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 399924
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #>(btc-get-best-height)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have fun in meatspace, i'll derp through it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i believe so, yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should have communicated to me that 201 did not supercede 198
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the very same. <<
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Apply the pedigree bridge path, re-name the directory to shiva, and you get
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was i not to interpret "rebake using the correct v-tron" as "supercedes previous missive"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: before you bail
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thank you for the very explicit directions, asciilifeform .
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so to recap: tinyscheme_genesis, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, and then flag_bug_fix?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, staring at it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-02-2016#1411369 << i am failing to turn this thread into usable actions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i should be able to leave the tinyscheme dir as tinyscheme? or am i screwing up royally in that my patch applications don't result in a shiva dir?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also i suppose polarbeard?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << press genesis_fixed, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, rename tinyscheme to shiva, recompile yes? asciilifeform phf ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: d'you have a minute to answer shiva questions?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: all parts will likely need scavenging into existence
(trilema) ben_vulpes wouldn't know, not particularly well versed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: predator?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i'd hope to only use that for bootstrapping.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (skin as frame)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is waterproof by construction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the linked dome has an astonishingly low part number, and readily available feedstock.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shortwave for the blockchain, solar panels for time-arbitraged electricity, hole of car batteries for storage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://rigsomelight.com/assets/images/dome.jpg << illustrating, again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yes, i would rather live in bootstrapped country squalor in plastic domes than most us cities.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "also wouldja re-zip-tie that vagrant that tried to get in last night, bob won't be by with the export wagon for another 2 days"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pashtun << not so much ethnic as "don't talk to cops. seriously, don't fucking talk to cops. furthermore, beat up anyone you see talking to cops."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lolclown
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeesh that's quite a face
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, which mysteries?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: healthy dose of evangelicals too. broad political spectrum united almost solely by 'no fucking way'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: parents who know certain subjects teach those. parents with large houses host 1-3 days/wk.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no "school" per se, but individuals contracted to teach groups of 5, 8, perhaps 10, specific subjects.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tis a healthy wot of "fuck you usg" around here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tisn't actually "alone at home" in this part of the world.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "other people's progeny"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah tie problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and mircea_popescu what jr high classmates lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: must be two for comparison to be meaningful
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: add it to the long list of shit that'll need multiple implementations just for testing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono, saw.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'cascadian mortar'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bpg?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm expecting vietnamese-style contact mines launched from a longbow but yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cedar levi vulpes, in the grand vulpesian tradition of shit not making any sense whatsoever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you get a name in this family when you take out your first irs agent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: name? he can't even talk yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is now crowing self-satisfiedly on the floor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in completely other news, the child just rolled over of his own accord for the first time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i saw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << on an older thread: code takes at least 2 months to review, financial statements ~6, unless you're in a hurry to give asciilifeform 10 btc, may as well shoot for somewhere in that range.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my favorite arcade game -- Wrong About Everything! (tm)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one passive one active?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is not 'reading the logs' that is 'engaging with the forum'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "sure" is probably the least enticing thing you could possibly say in that circumstance lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "social problem"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: was asking about getting assbot to regurgitate pubkeys on demand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sorry, i was being snide.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is supposed to?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: has it though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: naively, from each of our websites?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, i recall now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: while mod6's scripts pull them down from the net, i think this is actually a social problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hdbuck use the linked v99995
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <blink>HOW TO NODE</blink> on thebitcoin.foundation would be an improvement
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that wiki'll be the death of poor mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways this i believe to be the current version: http://mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: v99997. not that anyone could be reasonably expected to know that that's 2 degrees out of date.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: notrly a thing to spend much time debugging, it does say 'line-3'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: run more chromeblows!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/2ZZXGPW#line-3 << see anything else wrong, asciilifeform ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up PaulCape_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i'd love to see your clang work *elbow elbow*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apt-get-fucked
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lewd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: YOU WOULDN'T ENCRYPT A CHILD
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or a gun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only a criminal would encrypt a child
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we must decrypt the children
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well think of the children trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i only linked that piece because it quoted stan!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sheesh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: someone quoted alf << and in 2011 even
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html << i am surprised that this has not yet been linked here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mthreat: buttman! lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf ^^]
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ya plz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "tell us how much you diddled each other so that we may distribute other diddling equitably"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: slow motion statal rape
(trilema) ben_vulpes: w2's are a crime
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: LZOZLZO
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why ask a yoke-fly anything?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << i am categorically unqualified to opine on this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > 24,733 people around the world have filed bankruptcy claims related to the MtGox exchange
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PUNKMAN SENDS DINGLEBERRIES
(trilema) ben_vulpes: OH WELCOME BACK ASSBOT
(trilema) ben_vulpes back to oar
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this thing standardized or not?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is also load-from-path
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-user/Loading-Files.html
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: traditionally you use emacs and C-c C-k to compile the file in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: irc for derps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/things//
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in "other things jewels ripped from the forum's wall" news, Slack will repost the relevant log link when a user pastes its url into a chat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i b'leev asciilifeform even pegged it as a cowardly apology to der fuhrer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this one's in the log somewhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: atlantean troll proof doors for my safe space
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no bully
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no bully phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scuse me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: babylonian
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what confluence of events put scheme-81 chips in the hands of people who 3d print passwords to github repos in sumerian tablet reproduction style
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't