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asciilifeform: don't discount the iq hit apparently imposed by spawning
asciilifeform: he pictured originality in thought as something like the 'temperature' in a simulated-annealing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every sysadmin loves vi and nano, even. but programming in common lisp in an editor which doesn't automatch parens and autoindent is an example of something i might do in hell
asciilifeform: properly sane people, for example, tend to stick to +ev activities.
asciilifeform: hence better example of 'lisp as newton's mercury'
asciilifeform: (rms would be a better example)
asciilifeform: not sure if this adds anything to mircea_popescu's line of thought, but it is known that paul graham wrote common lisp programs using... vi. this drives me to barking madness after five minutes, and it is difficult to picture what brain might look like after a whole year of it, or what said brain must have looked like to even contemplate doing such a thing.
asciilifeform: it is impossible to do anything like proper thinking with sc4mz0rated priors
asciilifeform: it helps to be a no older than 5 y.o. orc who has never seen or heard of a computer.
asciilifeform: presumption being that planet ought to resemble a poultry plant
asciilifeform: imposed by fuck-knows-what.
asciilifeform: not only does it not, but it absolutely impossible to do anything re: the running product having to be recalculated on warmup without 1) increasing complexity 25x 2) slowing down processing palpably
ascii_field: i'd rather have uncle al's room temp supercon
ascii_field: mod6: 213.x.y.z is the vampire imho
ascii_field: (it is not given to any one language to have all the jumpers set)
ascii_field: they would not be feared if it were simple to kill'em
ascii_field: herr adlai was not a moron, actually was a pretty competent common lisp hand
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254409 >>> i stopped reading at 'Many distributions have partnered with Microsoft to sign their released kernels with a key that is already recognized by most system manufacturers, therefore saving you the trouble of having to deal with key importing.'
asciilifeform: adlai, unlike various idlers, actually had a very spiffy project. one which very much resembled something i've attempted to write myself.
asciilifeform: but he gave the impression of being somewhat pankkaked even earlier.
asciilifeform: just lost his mp-rating
asciilifeform: the orcs who shoot at local cops are - all but formally - salaried employees of usg. doing what they were paid for.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ... the whole thing's a small nudge or ten away from people with guns realizing that cops hate getting shot at ... << important to distinguish city police (the folks presently getting shot at) from fed gendarmerie (alphabet soup) - the latter just ~love~ it, on account of it giving them an excuse to waco. all that armour, heavy weaponry, poison gas, flying machines that they've stockpiled, they'd love to use.
asciilifeform: (a small computer which is not ~quite~ large enough to comfortably run gcc on)
asciilifeform: trinque: importantly, 'v' is stateless other than the three directories spoken of earlier.
asciilifeform: i have already written the 'mathematical' portion. which actually snarfs up and computers the graph flows, and checks sigs
asciilifeform: none of that 'import' and 'retrieve' idiocy
asciilifeform: half a dozen or so complete fetches.
asciilifeform: good example of discipline where 'alchemy' predominates
asciilifeform: (they don't, typically, have the decency to impale themselves)
asciilifeform: but you do. of legionaries. to impale the pseudoscientists.
asciilifeform: computing's easier
asciilifeform: st two people on this list are complete scientific frauds. Probably, most of them are.'
asciilifeform: you could make a simple flashlight just from the battery, a lamp, and bit of electrician's tape.
asciilifeform: for american folks who've never seen one, it can be found on the far left-hand side of this photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantern_battery#/media/File:Batteries_comparison_4,5_D_C_AA_AAA_AAAA_A23_9V_CR2032_LR44_matchstick-1.jpeg
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253471 << i know of a fella who was in gulf war I. his father looked down on him for not having suffered being taken prisoner in vietnam; his father's father looked down on the latter for not having been abused by north koreans in korean war captivity; and his uncle - for not having been in japanese prison camp in ww2.
asciilifeform: in 'dataflow' concept, your computer is actually a barrel full of very small computers. most of them perhaps idling at any given time.
asciilifeform: modern network chip is also implemented in quite the same way - it gets a chunk of memory to itself and drops incoming frames there, and waits for magic bit upon which it will crap out its buffer (also there) onto the wire
asciilifeform: and it exists in isolated instances in your computer right now. for instance, disk has own computer. as does your vga card, which, as mircea_popescu pointed out, must scan forever
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253522 << must dig out this thread, because this is when i point out that the generalization of this principle - 'if it really has to happen all the time, it ought to have dedicated silicon' - is called 'dataflow computation'
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253515 << if speaking of existing hardware, there is no shortage of 'computers' which cost pocket change and each can run just about anything one might care to
ascii_field: mats: it is possible to build computer which ~genuinely~ isolates processes. just like it is possible to build indoor plumbing which reliably separates shitwater and drinking water.
ascii_field: mats: don't conflate 'msdos complexity' for 'msdos security model'
ascii_field: mats: i have often named historical examples of 'fits in head.' but you choose to ignore them. why ?
ascii_field: mats: that's easy: any and all of them which add complexity
asciilifeform contemplates 'pools are a fatal bug
asciilifeform: hint for anybody contemplating this line of adventure: ~don't~ ask 'encrypted how' before bidding.
asciilifeform: was interested, for instance, in mining, but at no point contemplated buying anything or paying anyone to do it
asciilifeform: in so far as there is greater complexity, there is greater 'attack surface,' and the result is in every sense softer, squishier, and more turdlike, rather than 'hardened'
ascii_field: they own the ip range of the vampire tap (discussed earlier)
ascii_field: (empty box)
asciilifeform: they have a bottomless barrel of 'improvements'. if that fails, it'll be 'environmentally-friendly minerless distribution' or some other crock of shit
asciilifeform: though, you gotta love the very special imbecile who complained about the 'risk' of being paid bet winnings in '1mbcoin'
asciilifeform: alice@example.com
asciilifeform: srsly, that thumbdrive shit blew me away, it's like you were walking in a medical school campus and found a disk full of guides to bloodletting
asciilifeform: srsly the whole computer thing never quite happened.
asciilifeform just got back from the house of a phriend who, i shit thee not, filled two notebooks with one derivation, pen and paper, because ~none of the computeralgebrasystems he could find were able to swallow it~
asciilifeform: or as with the toddler example,
asciilifeform: you can get dampeners.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252205 << l0l, i always imagined mircea_popescu had a wooden panel full of analogue gauges for mpex, a ship's telegraph for changing course, and a speaking horn for dictating more complex orders
asciilifeform: (this is also done from inside 'v'. but, importantly, it also works - must work - manually.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and now we know why he made no attempt to parallelize, also.
asciilifeform: 'In SpreadCoin mining is organized in such way that miner must know the following things: 1. Private key corresponding to the coinbase transaction. 2. Whole block, not only its header. ... Pool may detect and ban cheating miners. However, many miners may still prefer to cheat so that pool will be completely unusable for honest miners.'
asciilifeform: 'usg employees don't even get fiat' << this is true in a strictly technical sense. but in fact senior nomenklatura ('ses' and up, but also grey-usg folk like uni professors) bring in very decent dough via 'contracting' and pseudo-industrial gigs.
asciilifeform was contemplating the apparent fact that: whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them. hence there is likely massive enthusiasm for anything that smacks of destroying or at least defiling bitcoin, on grounds of sheer envy
asciilifeform: much entomological sample, so scarce the ddt.
asciilifeform: (and, optionally, disk dma req. complete)
asciilifeform: i worked it out. the only interrupt handlers one even needs, are a) timer b) nic frame ring buffer (tx, rx) full/empty.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: best kernel improvement is to single-task the thing
asciilifeform: mod6: don't bother signing the tarballs, they are included for completeness. the thing to be signed is vpatches.
asciilifeform: mats: a shill may well say it, to gain sympathy
asciilifeform: but it is an old-fashioned tool, does not check that barrel is not pointed at your temple before whacking the firing pin.
asciilifeform: 'We are unable to explain the true nature of these patches in public because they guard against absolutely terrible DoS exploits that can take down ANY Bitcoin node. So instead we called it, "Minor efficiency improvement in block peer request handling." which is somewhat true of the patch.'
asciilifeform: 'FWIW adding SSL to the protocol is a fairly relatively non-invasive change. It might be worthwhile to implement that first as a means to test the developers you wish to hire to later implement partial mode.' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: hanbot: dollars to doughnuts you built a x86-64 component and it somehow got linked !
asciilifeform: that way folks wouldn't perforate bumper in the night
asciilifeform: it is tempting.
asciilifeform: it was as 'mean girlz' as anything from tardstalk-mpoe-era
asciilifeform: we are perhaps at the level of ampere and faraday, analogously, but nowhere near maxwell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'a'+'c' - 'what facts can or cannot be mathematically proven about a computer program? and when?'
asciilifeform: hanbot: i dare say that the concept of idempotence is key re: bitcoin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'c' (or 'd' ?) - 'distinguish 'fail-safe' and 'fail-deadly' mechanisms. give a common example of each.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'a' - 'what is idempotence ?'
asciilifeform: (example of 'arithmetically-challenged-and-doesn't-know-it')
asciilifeform: Adlai: another more subtle example, see the earlier link today with the 'otp was debunked now!111!!11!' imbecile
asciilifeform: srsly designers of microcomps helped to spread the most bizarre misconceptions about what is rare and costly and what is common as shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: without concept of randomness, it is impossible to explain why it is that what the idjits did was idjotic
asciilifeform: unless catastrophically misimplemented
asciilifeform: i still don't see it, btw. if re-encrypting could result in weakening, it would be a cryptoanalytic tool (as it in fact is for certain misimplemented rsatrons, actually)
asciilifeform: 'Indeed imagine a world where messages broadcasted publicly could be recorded. A world where screen shots and web archiving tools can preserve the content of broadcasted messages indefinitely, and where comparing the publication medium to an archived record can reveal otherwise unannounced retractions. In short imagine the real world as it actually is.' << gold
asciilifeform: 'millenials' enlisting in some crackpot 'boot camp' and paying for the privilege of receiving the whippings father never gave'em, etc
asciilifeform: ’s campus.' (from same rag)
asciilifeform: could simply mean a 300 baud link over 'diode' and optical fiber, to next room, with 24/7 eyes watching the text
asciilifeform: mike_c: iirc mpex runs using meatbots carrying ciphertext/plaintext to/from.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: please try to avoid referring to common lisp as 'clisp' in the interest of not confusing n00bz - clisp is a thing, it is a (pretty poor) free implementation of common lisp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not in the 'morals' business. but personally prefer the company of folks who wash, at least on occasion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my point is that china is different from ro, ar, usa, in several interesting ways which mircea_popescu appears to heavily discount the importance of. perhaps he has own reasons for this, but i couldn't possible know them..
asciilifeform: simply because bloodwot.
asciilifeform: perhaps completes the picture if i reveal that the man had wife, 2 y.o. son, back home. and they lived very well off his chickenfeed salary.
asciilifeform: but i reasoned that if mircea_popescu were an aficionado of mega-emptyspace, he'd be in patagonia now
asciilifeform: mostly empty, like usa, ru, or au
asciilifeform: y'know, the place which makes ru look civilized, friendly, inviting in comparison
asciilifeform: that exe is still out there, somewhere. who wants a fairly simple student project !
asciilifeform used to encounter unmistakeable examples with some regularity
asciilifeform: if simply trying to verify sigs, the python-gpg crud sorta works.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249705 << i find it interesting that there is ~exactly one~ actual, working implementation of pgp
asciilifeform: mats: to the point, there are ~NO~ usable reimplementations of gpg presently.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: (they gotta be homogeneous, as in following the same dir pattern as in 'genesis', to avoid unnecessary complexity in my proggy)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we zapped the timestamps
asciilifeform: antonosika: in what way are you presently distinguishable from an impostor ?
asciilifeform: punkman: correct, there were extraneous bytes in the linked example.
asciilifeform: (yes, moar complicated, and could - and has - fill a bookcase. but this is the 1line version in my head)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes. didn't say 'no one did this', just 'no shortage of sane examples'
asciilifeform: fortunately it is not in my job description! but no shortage of historic examples to choose from..
asciilifeform: and also idk, for an empty ballsack it's jizzing pretty well
asciilifeform: let's try example? the american universities who pioneered socialist claptrap. did they get cut off from endowments by american industrialists for doing so? 1900s
asciilifeform: nah, the socialmedia folks are enforcers of the actual vampires.
asciilifeform: but it is a wot of vampires of mankind.
asciilifeform: the way i read him, he saw 'socialism' (in the sense of industry having a single mega-imperial owner) as a done deal, with the only question being whether the end result would have a gestapo flavour, british ponce buggery flavour, or some other
asciilifeform: but i don't see that this necessarily qualifies him as a tard. how is one to love something which is incompatible with your own existence ?
asciilifeform: at one point, iirc, he quotes the mega-liturgical 'The rich man in his castle, / The poor man at his gate, / God made them, high or lowly, / And ordered their estate.' as an example of the kind of thing that killing christianity finally nailed, and he can't bring himself to miss it
asciilifeform: what was he to do, cry over the corpse like his contemporaries? then we would not be reading!
asciilifeform: except it was not, largely, 'law' which maintained order. 'law' was simply the religious incantation uttered by judge before a troublemaker was sent to meet his fate
asciilifeform: (more complicated story, with tank. diesel motor was an unambiguous win, as all tank makers eventually came to know.)
asciilifeform: i see the proceedings of that court as similar to those of all modern courts: a continuation of the basic lie of 'rule of law', where 'it is not the sultan who condemns you to impalement, but the majesty of the law'
asciilifeform: proceeding from a mandated assumption that it was written by human hand
asciilifeform: mod6: these look superficially correct, but need to be 1) compared mechanically and 2) rebased as i spoke of earlier
asciilifeform only learned how to make proper 'манная каша' (english, approx, 'cream of wheat') as an adult; and is still tempted to try doing it in a chemist's double boiler with magnetic stir bar
asciilifeform: mod6: see, for example, if you can bitwise-reconstitute REL1.
asciilifeform: but it is a handy means of mechanically computing whom to negrate.
asciilifeform: it would be easily 50x the complexity of the whole shebang put together.
asciilifeform: (new set should have no timestamps.)
asciilifeform: mod6: diff with the old set, and see that nothing but timestamps is at variance
asciilifeform: fluffypony: the 'fun' on mac begins when you diverge from traditional bsd utils and try using items like perl, python, or - satan forbid - attempt to work with init scripts or other customary denizens of /etc/
asciilifeform: less so today, in digital circuits, than in the old days of analogue amps in everything
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248408 << my understanding is that individually-measured and selected components are still sop in Machines Which Must Work
asciilifeform: a 'release' can simply be a deedbotted manifest.
asciilifeform: importantly, these need to be detached (own file) signatures. specifically ~not~ like this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000150.html
asciilifeform: it is important that everyone who works on therealbitcoin sign 'genesis' and distribute said signature.
asciilifeform: to further work the example, the 'antipatch' is only necessary if ben_vulpes's chain builds on any of asciilifeform's patches which have the unwanted patch as antecedent.
asciilifeform: i am emphatically ~not~ recreating 'git' or the like.
asciilifeform: trinque: i did the genesis.vpatch thing solely to simplify 'v' build system, which i was working on; such that there is no longer any shenanigans with tarballs, copying of crud, etc
asciilifeform: which left the timestamps. then experimented with abolishing timestamps in diffs entirely. this works
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248271 << compare this crock of shit to the algo for authenticating a bitcoin !
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248273 << in my eyes, a ~skilled~ art forger is a hero second only to a hypothetical fella who puts an actual bullet through a bilderberger. why, exactly, should i have any sympathy for the folks hitching a ride in the only 100% effective inflation shelter known, at the expense of literally everybody else ?
asciilifeform: btw i am still trying to figure out why the existing 'padding' algos are so asininely complex
asciilifeform: the purpose of 'padding' is to a) never have transform of known input deterministically give same output b) prevent arbitrarily flipped bits of ciphertext from yielding a valid (attempt to eat) message
asciilifeform: he says 'long messages' on account of the impossibility of signing an integer longer than the public modulus
asciilifeform: it isn't 'compare' though
asciilifeform: what would a counterexample to hypothesis http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1247994 look like ?
asciilifeform: but for cryptoanalyst, it is actually not useless to 'have' a paper-and-pen unimplementable algo
asciilifeform: can't rule out that even 20 yrs ago hitler knew that factoring is np-complete.
asciilifeform: i would like an asymmetric transform whose complexity were provably unknowable. that would be spiffy.
asciilifeform: how does this beat 'proven np-complete and the lowliest amoebic scum knows' ?
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu remember what means 'np-complete' ?
asciilifeform: while also proving that none of the 'practical' aspects of employing the transform, leak key.
asciilifeform: to round off the thread, imho the 'holy grail' of asymmetric crypto is to demonstrate ~provably measurable strength~ - that is, prove np-completeness of inverting the transform.
asciilifeform: to complete this story, i will add a diode on each antifuse and a collective rail to blow'em all
asciilifeform reminds mircea_popescu that factoring has not been proven np-hard much less np-complete
asciilifeform: rfc4480 sayeth, '5.2.3. Version 4 Signature Packet Format.... [buncha crud snipped] ... Two-octet field holding the left 16 bits of the signed hash value. One or more multiprecision integers comprising the signature. ...'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1247703 << court did not impose peine forte et dure ?! that's how it used to work..
asciilifeform: incidentally there is an implication of this, which ought to be obvious
asciilifeform: (it lacks the complete hash!)
asciilifeform: the only way to sign without imposing structure on the matter signed, is detach.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1247726 << it's concept-broken, not implementation-broken
ascii_field: on this topic as on any other, is absolutely indubitable. The proposition that the sum total of what came before can be compared with this particular advance is strictly ridiculous.' << mega-summary, quoted here for logz readers
ascii_field: change the V-genesis introduced is exactly like the move from understanding and controlling movement in terms of mass and somewhat velocity, such as it occurs in the mind of a monkey throwing rocks, to understanding and controlling movement in terms of mass, impulse and energy, such as it occurs in the launching of satellites. The proposition that there is still room for improvement in the endless march of human thought,
ascii_field: 'For the first time in the century or so of history of this particular human endeavour, text was deliberately structured with due consideration given not only to its meaning, but also to its source, and to its context. Prior attempts at structuring software, at first consisting of a naive approach focused on meaning only, over time added a half-hearted consideration of context, very unequally and rather haphazardly. The
ascii_field: the one with timestamps
ascii_field: so it is quite impossible to verify that it is valid per se, without having the payload
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the importance of the thing i intended, roughly, is that ~everything is either a vdiff or a sig~
ascii_field: to EMPTY dir
ascii_field: then compare result with 'chicken'
ascii_field: now make an empty space and fire the diff
ascii_field: (which won't match because it has timestamps, but ~order~ will match)
ascii_field: 'The absence of evidence shouldn’t be viewed as proof of guilt, but tell that to the U.S. federal court—where Khairullozhon Matanov received a 30-month sentence in mid-June, in part for deleting his browser history. Though he wasn’t an accomplice in the Boston bombing, the FBI charged that the friend of the Tsarnaev brothers with obstructing justice by destroying evidence in the case. That evidence inc
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: here is an experiment: change ' print $0 " " o ' in vdiff.sh to ' print $1 " " $2 " " o '. this results in timestamp amputation. the patches work fine, except that gnupatch is no longer aware of preexisting files and will happily create the same file twice, if so run, glomming on top of itself.
ascii_field: 'I don't have a preference (LTC/BTC/ETC). A company in Uraguay has improperly used my name....' (mcaffee)
asciilifeform: 'We describe three new occurrences of the sexual coercion of king penguins (Aptenodytes patagonicus) by Antarctic fur seals (Arctocephalus gazella) on sub-Antarctic Marion Island. These recurrent observations follow a common pattern where the seal chases, captures and mounts the penguin, followed by copulation attempts. These observations are similar to a previously published observation from the same island, and we suggest th
asciilifeform: complain to them, not me, l0l
asciilifeform: most importantly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have been deliberately dancing around the spitoon-drinking that reimplementing 'diff' and 'patch' would be.
asciilifeform: though iirc diff will complain whenever a file on the local filesystem is being replaced with 'older'
asciilifeform: but all non-0 stamps could be replaced with some arbitrary.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are not ~entirely~ meaningless, in that they impose an ordering. BUT my antecedent hashes do that now.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: basic boojum here is that no two diffs ever diff cleanly on account of timestamps.
asciilifeform: basic choices reduce to a) let'em live and pollute diffs b) tear'em out c) copy from filesystem timestamps of originals somehow
asciilifeform: of what to do with timestamps.
asciilifeform: mod6: your diff is correct (only timestamps at variance)
asciilifeform: 'More important, I looked through some of the Gnulib and GNU utilities code that deals with working around bugs in GCC's diagnostics generation, and -Wmaybe-uninitialized in particular has caused us so much grief that we typically silence it in a different way, which I should mention. We use a macro definition like this:' << holy fuq.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i never got the impression that o had pretences to 'great'. he wrote for the archaeologist. as i do.
asciilifeform: to me game on computer is fucking ~synonymous~ with dos.
ascii_field: done umpteen times
ascii_field: because proscribing the blocks later won't un-stampede the sell-panickers
ascii_field: (dump sc4mf0rk coins)
ascii_field: wouldn't a complete picture include satoshi ?
ascii_field: felipelalli: why not simply rate'em if they ever show up.
ascii_field: 'When the head of US Southern Command testified before Congress in March 2014, he said that due to asset shortfalls Southcom couldn’t pursue 74 percent of suspected maritime drug-smuggling vessels. “I simply sit and watch it go by,” the general said.' << disinfo !
ascii_field: because it is ~so~ useful to have something like msdos but less compatible.
ascii_field: mod6: i viewed the diffs in 'meld', came to same conclusion as you: 1) timestamps 2) ordering of files
ascii_field: mod6: didja ever post your complete diff ?
ascii_field: another possibility is some odd misbehaviour re: timestamps
ascii_field: mod6: just grep the diff for '+++' and compare the hashes with sha512sum of directory (your local manifest)
asciilifeform: and makes it damn near impossible to link to an individual piece
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu entomological sample, http://www.benzinga.com/news/15/08/5779058/bitcoin-flash-crashed-this-week << approximately a complete collection of ~everything but the actual truth~
asciilifeform: which did not match mod6's (who i mistakenly thought was 'extemporized')
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000150.html << FOR FUCKS SAKE which one of you is 'pub@extemporized' ?
asciilifeform: the question of which monkey in the forest produced a particular stool sample, is perhaps interesting to ~someone~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the chumpers, one might suppose, thought this
asciilifeform: perhaps this is sop. if so, one can wonder why the chumpers signed up to begin with
asciilifeform: mod6: interesting. sort, compare.
asciilifeform: at any rate, diff it with mine, nothing but timestamps must differ.
asciilifeform: you should get same thing i did, possibly excepting the timestamps
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo might be anti-impressed when he realizes what it consists of
asciilifeform: ument panel falling off in flight. The weapons also dealt extensive collateral damage, as the sheer numbers of fragments from detonating shells was sufficient to damage aircraft flying within a 200 meter radius from the impact center, including the aircraft firing.' << l0l
asciilifeform: 'Meanwhile in a cattle herd inhabiting an endless plain, the strictures of speech as a regulator of human activity do not exist per se. Argentines do not speak like you and me, Argentines bleat and bark like your sheep and dogs. They appreciate the loudness, the sudden quality, the melodicity, the formal "propriety" of speech much like a parrot judges another parrot's noises. They do not however comprehend, nor do they have an
asciilifeform: example ?
asciilifeform: derp with full battery vs empty
asciilifeform: i don't ask for the impossible! merely the 'romanov gold standard' of cleansing
asciilifeform: how many rothchilds in the camps ?
asciilifeform: when their current host dies, they will decamp to wherever it is they have a welcome party
asciilifeform: it is interesting to read the jp rationale for not attempting invasion or even saboteur ops on the u.s. continent in ww2
ascii_field: Number 197 standard. An important implementation
ascii_field: the CLMUL instruction set is to improve the performance of
ascii_field: integer quad word (2 – 64 bit integers). This is complemented
ascii_field: and is part of the overall 'diddled crypto' campaign since clinton
ascii_field: it also means, depending on circumstances, 'can't be bombed with slow-moving pilotless planes with impunity' or even 'might fire back if bombarded navally'
ascii_field: the liberasts tend to overemphasize the simple, kinetic rape & murder of .mil
ascii_field: eventually the chumps notice that the cheap and expensive psychics 'tell the future' exactly equally
ascii_field: thing about 'prestige market' is that 'art college of art' can make fraudulent claims of graduate employability just as well as, e.g., harvard
ascii_field: other thing is, the 'art college of art' chumpatronic sector has been edging into competition with the officially-blessed prestige-sellers
ascii_field: now try getting similarly compact description in a cpp proggy re: e.g., the map issue.
ascii_field: and when a situation like this does come up, a civilized compiler (there is ONLY ONE known, gcc) ~will~ give you useful info re: types
ascii_field: i'd love to borrow jurov's compiler
asciilifeform: that is, to discover whether there are non-mempool-related leaks
asciilifeform: 'As each fiber optic company sought a new undersea cable landing license from the FCC they were required by the NSA to enter into a classified contract with the NSA for TWO access point for each undersea cable. The first access point had to be right at the optical multiplexer which duplicated the optical pulse into the undersea cable, and then a second into a fiber optic cable that fed NSA gear. Then, behind the multiplexer an
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