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BingoBoingo: Win http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GsVkysXZ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1400215357088099761.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQ1ZRQ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00071698 = 14.4113 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: da fuck is that ?
BingoBoingo: A frat house on freshman move in day
BingoBoingo: They put out a polite invitation for the girls and their mums
mircea_popescu: mmkay.
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 371413 | Current Difficulty: 5.425663032788996E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 372959 | Next Difficulty In: 1546 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 0 hours, 56 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/priority-ashley-madison-leak-no-big-deal-think/ << shit i was wrong.
assbot: Ashley Madison Leak No Big Deal? Think Again ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJd7K9 )
mircea_popescu: "Ironically, this is the second time I’ve run across Popescu in my writing. Popescu is a member of a group who call themselves “The Bitcoin Lordship,” who opposed a necessary increase in the Bitcoin block size for some very silly and shortsighted reasons. I remember thinking that he in particular was an ugly combination of paranoid, narcissistic, and downright mean. I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessme
mircea_popescu: nt, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess."
mircea_popescu: herp ?
mircea_popescu: "Trust me: nothing of value was lost."
mircea_popescu: "The latest Tweets from Andre Infante (@AndreTI). FutureTech editor at MakeUseOf. Game developer. Future savior of humanity. New Mexico."
mircea_popescu: mmkay.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00071723 = 15.2053 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'if i say it three times, it is true!' (tm) (r) (lewis carroll)
mircea_popescu: still, derp gets the prize for paying attention.
asciilifeform: handler gets prize.
asciilifeform: derp - gets salary.
BingoBoingo: "I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessment, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess." << IncrediLoL
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00071796 = 31.8774 BTC [+] {3}
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, just buy 5000 nodes and stop with this joke, please: http://www.xtnodes.com/
assbot: XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6LBf )
BingoBoingo: Can't even spell Andressen, can't even link qntra https://archive.is/zokeX
assbot: The Hard Fork: Will Bitcoin XT Take? - NASDAQ.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6NJe )
BingoBoingo: <felipelalli> mircea_popescu, just buy 5000 nodes and stop with this joke, please: http://www.xtnodes.com/ << But that wouldn't be very shiny and chrome
assbot: XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6LBf )
felipelalli: BingoBoingo, lol I'm so ingenuous. Thank you!
felipelalli: I just forgot that.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo, but it would be funny.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: But not maximally funny. Better to keep therealbitcoin gearing low nao to better handle rocks. Gotta get pwer from the flywheel to the ground to climb a mountain
felipelalli: They setup 3500 nodes in few minutes, low blow.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo he prolly loaded it during a ddos bout or something
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There surprisingly hasn't been a qntra DoS that I have noticed since the XT'ening
mircea_popescu: felipelalli im not entirely sure what the fake node count does tbh.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo or since some guy came in here and apologize about something vague
BingoBoingo: Well, onto the qntra comments for the same. These things happen with increasing frequency.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58757 @ 0.00071113 = 41.7839 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoingriefers.com/rankings/ << 2nd!
assbot: Rankings | Bitcoin Griefers ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu7d2v )
BingoBoingo: Above Pirateat40!!!
BingoBoingo: the 1418 is pretty weak though mircea_popescu, better fix that
mircea_popescu: i am the only "political prisoner" on the list so to speak.
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: now you are #1
mircea_popescu: lol ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21537-post-1096996.html#pid1096996 << kinda incredible how far bitcoin actually reaches.
assbot: The Bitcoin thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1U3BnRD )
mircea_popescu: what do zerohedge, rooshv and whatever have in common ? a live interest in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: sorta like being a name in flying cca 1920, everyone's got a throught for you.
mircea_popescu: wait BingoBoingo is that you ?
BingoBoingo: Not that one, no
BingoBoingo: I am never apologetic to randos on the interwebz
BingoBoingo: So, I moved the Popescu, Ulbricht slate above the shitheads on that griefer site. No good reason why MP and RU should have low elo ratings.
mircea_popescu: what am i gonna tell my mom!
BingoBoingo: You won?
mircea_popescu: hm.
BingoBoingo: I'm voting based on misery brought upon Derps, no moral consideration involved
BingoBoingo: Or is griefing not the act of bringing grief upon people/beoble
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski not really my jam.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea lol. voting stuff.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251096 << i actually ran into a client thing that looks 90% hand rolled
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 00:40:27; phf: is a standard answer to "howto in ruby?" "we use pegster gem with mustashbar extension, though lately we've been migrating to fellater gem"
ben_vulpes: has been limping along since 2007
ben_vulpes: ghost galleon in orbit. everyone fears it and doesn't know how it works.
mircea_popescu wonders if fellater gem is actually a thing
ben_vulpes: 'factory girl' is close
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'll be puzzling over that quiz for a bit. wonderful fun!
ben_vulpes: i'd probably sweat through a shirt taking it
mircea_popescu: make sure you reload it sometime tomorrow just in case i actually wake up with any ideas.
BingoBoingo seriously suggests biology section
mircea_popescu: it does give me a taste of a very old yet apparently not forgotten "you are not expected to understand this" day at special math studies group within gifted kids hs. which is hopefully a ghood thing.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im not putting a biology section in there!
mircea_popescu: what if it raises ctulhu!
BingoBoingo: Isn't it supposed to!
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: it's like perverse asian sex practice. edging only.
BingoBoingo: Fine, if it is edging Biology section only needs one question: "Is fire alive?"
mircea_popescu: ima make a metaphysical section with quotes from you.
BingoBoingo: Could work. I just dunno why alf is so anti-section b
ben_vulpes: c4: "python so that the world might participate"
mircea_popescu: avram iancu is a romanian folk hero. famously a guy answered "describe in brief the life and activity of avram iancu" task by writing down the letter R
mircea_popescu: which turns the name into "Avram takes it in the butt"
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251301 << input parsing is hard yo just ask the pygpg people
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 01:22:58; mircea_popescu: either &lt; or something. esp <--- is a comment.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00071516 = 27.8555 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00070876 = 12.5096 BTC [-] {4}
trinque: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0A1CH2K.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jix6Bz )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
wyrdmantis: !h
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76669 @ 0.00071422 = 54.7585 BTC [+] {3}
fluffypony: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/136148-most-popular-programming-languages-on-github-2008-to-2015.html
assbot: Most popular programming languages on Github: 2008 to 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1WPnsxg )
fluffypony: tl;dr: decline in Ruby, Python, and C. Massive increase in Java, C#, and CSS. Javascript is #1.
mircea_popescu: lol sorry about that wyrdmantis
mircea_popescu: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00070869 = 34.1589 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fluffypony in fairness, if one did the same calculation for "artists", bellybutton lint would probably figure very high
fluffypony: hah hah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00071542 = 13.9507 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77000 @ 0.00071681 = 55.1944 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92050 @ 0.00070768 = 65.1419 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84200 @ 0.00070699 = 59.5286 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00070654 = 5.3697 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56350 @ 0.00071242 = 40.1449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00071242 = 21.4795 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00070905 = 4.6443 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00071159 = 24.9057 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85900 @ 0.00071058 = 61.0388 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67903 @ 0.00070654 = 47.9762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36750 @ 0.00071443 = 26.2553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00070751 = 27.2745 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10143 @ 0.00070779 = 7.1791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00070707 = 25.3485 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00070659 = 33.2097 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61627 @ 0.00070645 = 43.5364 BTC [-] {5}
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap is down - whole machine.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251447 +1
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 02:13:39; mircea_popescu: care to put some selections on your blog ?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu 'network is unreachable'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/17SQB7H.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MR5LKH )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gernika: BingoBoingo: did you mean cron instead of "chron" here? http://qntra.net/2015/08/twitter-forbids-monitoring-politicians-deleted-tweets/
assbot: Twitter Forbids Monitoring Politician's Deleted Tweets | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPW2Ex )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and shouldn't it be 'politicians' deleted tweets' ?
wyrdmantis: asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-08-2015#1249548 can you explain more about this? why l2 cache is relevant? thanks in advance
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 15:08:04; wyrdmantis: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-08-2015#1244364 asciilifeform can you explain me why this is relevant? i person i know has told me that L2 chache is irrelevant because "the working set of memory pages veryfing ECDSA signatures is extremely small and takes places also in L1” I don’t have counter-arguments with him because this is not my field but… i trust your opinion more. Also he says that
asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: for instance, there is more than one signature in a block !
asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: likewise, you must count not only data but code pages;
asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: on top of this, but not last, is the fact that context switches happen and your cached pages are regularly evicted to admit crud
wyrdmantis: ok, so this is why bigger blocks and verification time don't scale linearly?
asciilifeform: roughly.
asciilifeform: if interested in the subject, try to study - experimentally - how your cache works. recent (2007+) cpu from both major houses make this feasible.
wyrdmantis: asciilifeform thank you
asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: yw
asciilifeform bbl
kakobrekla: i dont see why the idiots dont take the leap and think that limited block size may actually give some small value to their beloved alts
wyrdmantis: kakobrekla: only idiots thinks that there must be no limit. the issue is WHERE to put this limit
wyrdmantis: i'm for not touching it at all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18637 @ 0.00070779 = 13.1911 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106610 @ 0.00070667 = 75.3381 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25235 @ 0.00071442 = 18.0284 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ty gernika and asciilifeform, corrected
asciilifeform: ;;isup nosuchlabs.com
gribble: nosuchlabs.com is down
asciilifeform: anybody on the other side of the atlantic wanna post a traceroute 195.211.154.159 ?
asciilifeform: presently not able to reach it from anywhere in usa
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00070642 = 16.6715 BTC [-]
wyrdmantis: asciilifeform: trying
wyrdmantis: http://dpaste.com/0SJW2Q7 <<--- asciilifeform
assbot: dpaste: 0SJW2Q7: by gabriele.dalroverezurla@gmail.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1EhBJgq )
asciilifeform: ty wyrdmantis
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000156.html << cool! i'll try to get mine signed here soon. today or tomorrow.
assbot: [BTC-dev] orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LtSNzo )
asciilifeform: mod6: don't bother signing the tarballs, they are included for completeness. the thing to be signed is vpatches.
asciilifeform: mod6: i recommend to follow the format nameofpatch.vpatch.mod6.sig
Jautenim: stan http://pastebin.com/rqsfgNcY
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1 hQEMA4iazE/I7/8TAQgAoUczBaxqX+ - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1PQ5V3p )
asciilifeform: ty Jautenim !
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: don't bother signing the tarballs, they are included for completeness. the thing to be signed is vpatches. << ok np.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: i recommend to follow the format nameofpatch.vpatch.mod6.sig << cool, sounds good.
asciilifeform: 14 April 2015: Cryptome Public Key forgery: 4096R/922D08D9 2015-03-24 Cryptome <cryptome@earthlink.net> Fingerprint=442E FB9B 6BD0 E069 86D4 E335 CD2F 43B5 922D 08D9 << l0l
BingoBoingo: I went to the cigarette emporium at exactly the right time today. RJ Reynolds rep was there and offered for an additional $2 on top of the cigs I was buying one of these kits http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2427721,00.asp
assbot: Vuse Digital Vapor Cigarettes Review & Rating | PCMag.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnCaS )
asciilifeform: pcmag !?
asciilifeform: these have usb port, or what
asciilifeform: (... and why?)
lobbes: whenever I try to switch to e-cigs I just end up wanting real cigs
BingoBoingo: Charger plugs into a usb port
asciilifeform: ah
phf: double as bitcoin wallets
BingoBoingo: So far this one has adequate "burn" at the throat.
lobbes: that is a very crucial property
BingoBoingo just plans on using phone charger for this thing if I keep up with it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: don't know why i bothered, but https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with
assbot: Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
BingoBoingo: upvoted asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: Rep could tell I was a loyal RJ Reynolds customer though when I merely asked for smokes and the clerk new which kind
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00070642 = 9.7839 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Ecigs might be the only thing in 'Murica that's gotten less shitty since 2012
asciilifeform: 'I apologise for my tardiness, but here is the 5.11BTC I promised for the CoinJoin effort.' << >> https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv )
lobbes: they have improved quite a bit. I remember when they were the size of markers. I had one once where the plastic mouthpiece would break at least once a month
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ibh95/coins_stolen_from_mycelium_wallet_how_do_you << lulzies
assbot: Coins stolen from mycelium wallet. How do you think it might have happened? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEoGM4 )
lobbes: to make them a true replacement though, I think they'd need to simulate the ammonia and arsenic et al.
lobbes: I think I crave that as much as the nicotine heh
BingoBoingo: lobbes: My theory is they need to include more than the nicotine. There's actually a pretty potent MAOI in tobacco that persists in the smoke
BingoBoingo: But maybe it is in this mix, only testing can confirm
phf: main issue is that ecigs can never look this cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuZklVrHspM
assbot: Gainsbourg, The initials BB - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1hbJpWx )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how is the 'juice' made ? i.e. clean mix of pesticidal-grade nicotine and flavourings, or is it actually squeezed from tobacco ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have to imagine extracted. Even pesticide grade nicotine is typically extracted and then isolated to my knowledge. This package says extracted from tobacco, but RJ Reynolds is not in my WoT to the extent I can take that on face value.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56081 @ 0.00070489 = 39.5309 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: I dunno if there is a cheaper way to get nicotine, even for pesticide than extracting from tobacco
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50577 @ 0.000704 = 35.6062 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: BingoBoingo: what do you think about inhaling glycerine/propylene-glycol?
BingoBoingo: A little soap can't be that bad for the lungs
phf: asciilifeform: i think there's a range. there's an ecigar (not sure how it's called) place next door, which is favored by asians and blacks. actually pipes are large and made out of machined parts, but produce massive amounts of smoke. they source nicotine oil separately, and my impression is that you can get anything from dodgy chinese stuff with flavors like "coca cola bubble gum" to u.s. local hand extracted tobacco oil
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Can you please call me ? No. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/25/can-you-please-call-me-no/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70907 @ 0.00071792 = 50.9056 BTC [+] {4}
thestringpuller: lol lobbes you crave the bad stuff of cigarettes lol?
thestringpuller: i've always thought e-cigs can wane you off more easily than other things because you can cram so much nicotine in the juice
thestringpuller: and the delivery to the lungs is much more efficient.
davout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PTtX1HPWj4
assbot: These Kids Made The Most Genius Basketball Trick Shot Video Of All-Time - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4tfjQ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27693 @ 0.00071992 = 19.9367 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform looking into it.
lobbes: thestringpuller: lol. Well there's somethin' about the 'pure' nicotine that doesn't do it for me with e-cigs. Though BB's point about MAOI persisting in 'traditional' tobacco smoke perhaps makes more sense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dunno, seems to be blackholed somehow. the server itself is fine. the looking into continues.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see log. traceroutes all fall into neverneverland
mircea_popescu: well sure. from pretty much everywherre
asciilifeform: aha. both sides of atlantic.
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1YEMCVW << pretty early, too.
assbot: dpaste: 1YEMCVW ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4vjIu )
mircea_popescu: i mean... what's the connection between core11.hetzner.de and verizon-gni.net
asciilifeform: none, it's the dropoff
asciilifeform: the former - yours, the latter - mine
mircea_popescu: course trilema is also a little sluggish
lobbes: ;;later tell trinque is deedbot- handling phuctor now too? No worries either way; I just want to make sure our gears are turning in-sync
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53560 @ 0.00071421 = 38.2531 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251759 << incidentally, on a multicore system one could probably do some pretty spiffy kernel improvements to squeeze more juice for a purely node system.
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 13:16:07; asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: on top of this, but not last, is the fact that context switches happen and your cached pages are regularly evicted to admit crud
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: best kernel improvement is to single-task the thing
mircea_popescu: just the fact that "these pages don't get swapped" would prolly 3x the whole thing or some shit
mircea_popescu: and who watches the ethercard ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the nic knows how to dma, recall.
mircea_popescu: i do not think there ever existed a "single task programmable computer" yet, in spite of convincing early ibm emulation. you either get signal processing or multi tasking
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing is, none of this is even worth thinking about until items like multiprocessorized sig validation are a thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'single task' in the sense of there not being a timeslicer
mircea_popescu: kernel gets a timeslicer for itself anyway
asciilifeform: yes, you still have interrupt handlers.
mircea_popescu: so it can run "this timeslicing is no longer supporterd please run upgrade"
asciilifeform: but it is perfectly feasible to run something like bitcoin as an embedded proggy.
mircea_popescu: no argument. was just pounding the more theoretical side of things.
asciilifeform: i worked it out. the only interrupt handlers one even needs, are a) timer b) nic frame ring buffer (tx, rx) full/empty.
asciilifeform: (and, optionally, disk dma req. complete)
mircea_popescu: anyway, our friends' apparently well intended conundrum is i think illustrative for the woe betid the modern man, asked to come up with "votes" on matters so far removed from his understanding.
asciilifeform: could, theoretically, do this port even now, if one were to 'de-thread' the thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the chinese are actually fucktarded enough to allow usg to not get its wish but nevertheless move the window in not getting it, we'll probably not only de-thread it but rewrite the whole sheband, and with a better pow algo at that.
asciilifeform: lucky job that i have one. (and i'd be disappointed if only i)
mircea_popescu: i'm curious if the size of that empire will allow the young and clueless mining derps be squashed by decade-old us foreign policy technology that their older, more politically central counterparts have long ago figured how to sink
mircea_popescu: but, this discussion's yet out of its time.
asciilifeform: parachute!
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: you ever seen the robotzi re parachutes ?
asciilifeform: dun think so
mircea_popescu: lemme dig it up, then you can watch it then i can say something pithy about it
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Ei81re1Ao
assbot: RObotzi.S03.Ep3.Hobby - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWlSWP )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/1qvgld/a_leak_in_the_bitcoin_reddit_shows_private << lulz
assbot: A leak in the bitcoin reddit, shows private messages between bitcoin developers included litecoin head developer : litecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWm0Wn )
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: apparently no one gave a shit then, either.
asciilifeform: (spoiler: it's the paste from last night.)
mircea_popescu: as you say, entomological interest.
asciilifeform: much entomological sample, so scarce the ddt.
mircea_popescu: so didja see it ?
asciilifeform: see what?
mircea_popescu: youtube above!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251766 << i recall this tidbit of shisdom peppered throughout the "conversation"
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 13:20:26; kakobrekla: i dont see why the idiots dont take the leap and think that limited block size may actually give some small value to their beloved alts
kakobrekla: ah ok then
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis no fucking way your name actually is "dalroverezurla"
kakobrekla: so the 5 btc went to buy silk road stuff ?
mircea_popescu: nfi. something with donations or w/e.
asciilifeform still not very handy with spoken ro
mircea_popescu: prolly went to sergent blackforce the 9th power or w/e
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, ima translate it in a second then
mircea_popescu: these guys are impossible anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52162 @ 0.00070977 = 37.023 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: !rated wyrdmantis
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mircea_popescu: !rate wyrdmantis 1 Good name.
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jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.10097459 = 1.5146 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108500 @ 0.00072101 = 78.2296 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/robotzi-s03-ep3-hobby/
assbot: RObotzi S03 Ep3 : Hobby on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwSnc1 )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00070977 = 13.3082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39507 @ 0.00070977 = 28.0409 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dja see what i mean ?
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole as is down, being worked on, dulap should be back later.
asciilifeform: spiffy
asciilifeform: all of this reminds me of the famous sovderpitude re: phone tap installation
asciilifeform: ~crackle~, ~hiss~, ..., ..., outage
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43950 @ 0.00070449 = 30.9623 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: progress is what happens when everything gradually goes to shit
mircea_popescu: so whadja expect.
asciilifeform: hogress.
asciilifeform: ... and it appear that i'm ~still~ the only one keeping public therealbitcoin nodez ?? are folks waiting for the version string thing (imho pretty useless...) or what ?
jurov: ;;later tell felipelalli btc-dev l2 keys are updated once per day, if your emails still aren't accepted, i'll check it it on weekend (currently abroad, no access)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with << they luvv it
assbot: Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
asciilifeform: (anybody need a bucket of cockroaches for anything ??!11)
punkman: so petertodd loaned John Dillon 5.1 btc, which he then sent to gmaxwell, to https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV which is tagged "DPR seized coins"?
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00070377 = 32.4438 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: oh wrong link, 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH was supposed to be gmaxwell's address
kakobrekla: is that when sr was still up?
mircea_popescu looks for the "as mp said a few months ago", doesn't find it, doesn't give a shit.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2013#337920
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2013 15:46:43; ozbot: FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99900 @ 0.00070361 = 70.2906 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: so, someone bought some drugs.
punkman: the 5.1099 btc was sent on 2013-11-16
kakobrekla: wasnt it 2013-10-26
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: even more peculiar.
punkman: kakobrekla: no that's when petertodd sent the money to Dillon
jurov: http://www.explo.yt/slush_on_xt.png a little kek
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ubqec7 )
kakobrekla: https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV this address i thin kwas under dprs control
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv )
kakobrekla: https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH this one is under usms
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbqhES )
punkman: so john dillon wasn't a spook, was dpr?
kakobrekla: deposited to sr wallet
kakobrekla: id say
kakobrekla: dunno
kakobrekla: yes, after bust .
mircea_popescu: jurov guy's gone full retard.
mircea_popescu: !rated slush
assbot: You rated user slush on 20-Aug-2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: fuckwit.
mircea_popescu: but lol @gogulski
mircea_popescu: the only shit that's bad is still in your head, yo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enough, i encountered gogulski entirely by chance, elsewhere:
mircea_popescu: that's what not agreeing with me usually means. that you got some horse droppings in a portion of your brain.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 << he bought my 'dukedom'
assbot: Loper OS » Dukedom for Sale. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwU6Oz )
mircea_popescu: good for him
asciilifeform does not know anything else about herr gogulski, other than the incident where he publicly burned his u.s. passport and formally renounced citizenship
mircea_popescu: there's an immense pile of people who "don't agree with mp" as if that's some sort of vanity prop.
mircea_popescu: which... whatevs. growing up happens to the best of 'em.
asciilifeform was contemplating the apparent fact that: whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them. hence there is likely massive enthusiasm for anything that smacks of destroying or at least defiling bitcoin, on grounds of sheer envy
asciilifeform: 'perhaps ~now~ we get a chance'
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with/cufbrx6 << cockroach squirms
assbot: petertodd comments on Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtuUK )
punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.msg3009444#msg3009444 << addresses used by jdillon to donate 10btc to coinjoin fund https://blockchain.info/tx/1332f6d0ba9b7101edab1f183d36a09d6036561cf36de1326a68523107b3e7b2
assbot: CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtxA8 )
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 1332f6d0ba9b7101edab1f183d36a09d6036561cf36de1326a68523107b3e7b2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtxQo )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
asciilifeform: (naturally, not applicable to extant bitcoin.)
mircea_popescu: it was discussed in bitcoin too.
mircea_popescu: predictably, pool ops do not like the idea at all.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's plenty applicable, if one talks forks.
mircea_popescu: but by the time one talks forks to that level, some sort of much different bitcoin would be on the table anyway. with ring signatures and various other items.
mircea_popescu: " whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them" <<< ahahahaha. fucking DOH. not even usg is this fucking stupid. albeit this is not deliberately, just, the low level idiots have no access to any btc and the high level doods know better. but for that matter : usg employees don't even get fiat.
mircea_popescu: people in the camp work for a) promises of future and b) mortgage-and-meal tickets.
mircea_popescu: what bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: you think the fucktards writing "gawker" and all its clones are getting paid ? thjey aren't. they do it because i won't take them to work for qntra, and they imagine that if they persevere they can somehow prevail without needing to actually do the hard work.
mircea_popescu: the same's true throughout.
asciilifeform: even pig is sometimes permitted to eat truffle
asciilifeform: but not often.
asciilifeform: 'usg employees don't even get fiat' << this is true in a strictly technical sense. but in fact senior nomenklatura ('ses' and up, but also grey-usg folk like uni professors) bring in very decent dough via 'contracting' and pseudo-industrial gigs.
mircea_popescu: how many monets' worth ?
mircea_popescu: this is the point easily missed. "oh, bitcoin is a 5 bn dollar system". no it's fucking not lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: easily into the multiple millimonets, for a typical case
mircea_popescu: you can buy about 100k and it stays at 5bn
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but for senior brass, whole monets
mircea_popescu: once you buy 1bn, it's suddenly a 50 trillion system
mircea_popescu: same is true of monets, but the exponential's going the other way
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: somehow no one is foolish enough to make the mistake in, e.g., aluminum market
asciilifeform was using 'millimonet' as an approximate unit, 4 * 10^4 usd.
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251979 <-- a test implementation exists called "spreadcoin"
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 18:53:47; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
asciilifeform: 'spreading works!!111!!!11'
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: appears to be entirely dead
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: so dead that not even a copy of the paper can be turned up.
asciilifeform: or, hm, maybe not
asciilifeform: http://www.spreadcoin.info/downloads/SpreadCoin-WhitePaper.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NH9dqx )
asciilifeform: ^http://dpaste.com/2CMFP15
asciilifeform: 'In SpreadCoin mining is organized in such way that miner must know the following things: 1. Private key corresponding to the coinbase transaction. 2. Whole block, not only its header. ... Pool may detect and ban cheating miners. However, many miners may still prefer to cheat so that pool will be completely unusable for honest miners.'
asciilifeform not convinced that this works as described
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform funnily, the "corner silver market" was the opposite mistake. ie, "we'll make thius a 500 bn system for no reason"
mircea_popescu: odd how selective stupidity is. it'll only do its stupid thing where it doesn';t stand a chance, but will avoid where it'd work.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10102 @ 0.00070449 = 7.1168 BTC [+]
punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6430 interesting
assbot: ECDSA Signatures allow recovery of the public key ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHayNO )
punkman: (linked from spreadcoin text)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53750 @ 0.00070323 = 37.7986 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: well yes ?
mircea_popescu: check out gavin from 2011 : "What's the extra CPU cost for recovering the public key? Current bottleneck for bitcoin transaction processing is the CPU cost of ECDSA signature verification, not disk space or bandwidth, so saving bytes at the expense of more CPU is not the right thing to do."
mircea_popescu: it's not like he doesn't KNOW what he's doing oir anything.
punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186264
assbot: Improving the trustworthyness of PGP keys with Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHbJNh )
punkman: "If you are part of the PGP strong set or your PGP key is on bitcoin-otc you now have a timestamp. Take your PGP fingerprint and convert that into a Bitcoin address and you'll find a 1 satoshi payment to it"
punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189792.msg1968200#msg1968200
assbot: Bitcoin Blocksize Problem Video ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHco1l )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and now we know why he made no attempt to parallelize, also.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell fluffypony You know of any working OpenBSD monero builds?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: binaries or building from source?
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Building from source
fluffypony: head should build if you "make release-static" and have the depsa
fluffypony: *deps
fluffypony: but I haven't checked the last few commits on BSD, so it's entirely possible we broke something
BingoBoingo: Ah, I think I was missing rt
ben_vulpes: marvel of marvels, still leaking IP.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some of us :)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the hash-and-nonce approach to pow originally proposed is quite obviously hackery.
mircea_popescu: a bitcoin purified of ec bullcrap could do some pretty splendid factorisation-based pow.
asciilifeform: ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 256700 @ 0.00070277 = 180.4011 BTC [-] {5}
asciilifeform: ;;isup nosuchlabs.com
gribble: nosuchlabs.com is up
punkman: mircea_popescu: how's the hash pow related to ec?
mircea_popescu: in being stupid.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28502 @ 0.00070347 = 20.0503 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, unless you have a nvidia farm you're trying to find a use for, your pow has no business being a recursive hash and shouldreally be a lot more like what phuctor's doing
mircea_popescu: that obviously reduces to a ram farm, but at least ram is a degree of magnitude more commodised than gpus.
mircea_popescu: in general, as it has been correctly observed and oft repeated, the simpler the gun, the worse for the state.
asciilifeform: my only misgiving about this is if you stop and think who's been baking factoratrons for the past 20 yrs.
asciilifeform: to them, the spoils ?
asciilifeform: they perhaps were not quite good enough for pgp, but for this - perfect
BingoBoingo: !up auxon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102800 @ 0.00070164 = 72.1286 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30330 @ 0.00070132 = 21.271 BTC [-]
punkman: http://dpaste.com/1WPD2NM some excerpts from jdillon leak and bonus links
assbot: dpaste: 1WPD2NM ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXi5Zc )
funkenstein_: i'm surprise nobody has an RSA coin out yet
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: possibly for the reason i mentioned
funkenstein_: factoratrons?
asciilifeform: aha.
funkenstein_: i meant address, tx signing, DSA not POW
asciilifeform: 'too heavy'
asciilifeform: is the usual excuse.
asciilifeform: !s rsacoin
assbot: 0 results for 'rsacoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rsacoin
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: quite sure that we discussed it.
funkenstein_: sounds familiar
funkenstein_: signature verification is more intensive than modinv stuff with ecdsa?
funkenstein_: it seems thats the bottleneck
asciilifeform: that wasn't the concern
funkenstein_: pubkeys are big i guess
asciilifeform: relatively.
funkenstein_: addresses are hashes, that's not a problem
mircea_popescu: !up auxon
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah
mircea_popescu: it is heavy.
funkenstein_: it's also hard to make good rsa privkeys with dice
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: also hard with stone axe, mammoth teeth, bear skin.
funkenstein_: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71803 @ 0.00070097 = 50.3317 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.11, Best ask: 224.39, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 224.42, 24 hour volume: 75242.0072563, 24 hour low: 196.6, 24 hour high: 228.77, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69941 @ 0.00069936 = 48.9139 BTC [-] {6}
punkman: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/world/europe/migrants-push-toward-hungary-as-a-border-fence-rises.html?_r=0
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcwrt )
punkman: from Syria, to Kos and Lesvos, to the promised land of Germany and Sweden
asciilifeform: n0rd1c syst3m!!
punkman: http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/15/investing/bank-of-america-branches-layoffs/
assbot: Hundreds of Bank of America branches are disappearing - Jul. 15, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcZty )
punkman: http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/24/investing/stocks-markets-selloff-circuit-breakers-1200-times/index.html
assbot: Trading was halted 1,200 times Monday - Aug. 24, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLd6Fv )
asciilifeform: punkman: see also, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193376
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 17:08:58; mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
asciilifeform: http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/21/technology/ashley-madison-users-extorted/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obnetwork << l0l, from same fishwrap
assbot: Ashley Madison users now facing extortion - Aug. 21, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLdjII )
asciilifeform: http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/19/news/niagara-painting-sale-blocked-uk/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obnetwork << and re: the art thing
assbot: Buyer pays over $200,000 for painting, but can't take it home - Aug. 19, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLdnID )
trinque cranks the R.E.M., kicks back
asciilifeform: 'The government hopes that by blocking the painting from export there will be time for a new, serious buyer to come forward.'
asciilifeform: soviet win.
mod6: asciilifeform: I see you attached the sigs for the vpatch files, and included the tarballs in your orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) email. I think it'd like to attach the raw .vpatch files as well as the .sigs for completeness. Anything against this other than it's a bit redundant since you already posted the tarballs of the .vpatches?
mod6: s/it'd/i'd/
asciilifeform: mod6: redundant, imho
asciilifeform: mod6: once 'v' is live, it can be retrofitted to the turdatron directly
mod6: alright, i'll leave them off, and maybe just leave a linkback in the body to your message.
mod6: that way a person can find the tarballs, etc.
mircea_popescu: punkman fascinatingly, it's china's fault!
mircea_popescu: lol @the uk.
mircea_popescu: maybe the guy should rape some teenagers ? apparently it's how you get shit done in the queen's realms.
asciilifeform: neh that's reserved for authorized race-replacerz
mircea_popescu: honestly if it was mine i'd burn it.
mircea_popescu: send the "minister of culture" the ash.
asciilifeform: for bonus points, buy that little stove in ro they used earlier
asciilifeform: to burn it in
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly.
mircea_popescu: tho ro govt would perhaps forbid its export :D
asciilifeform: l0l!!
asciilifeform: wonder what the ashes are worth
asciilifeform: betcha they're at least mildly authenticable.
mircea_popescu: same as the painting, really.
mircea_popescu: "helps you better understand the role of mp in shaping the 21st century"
asciilifeform: !b 4
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/17D9G5M.txt )
mod6: oh i just realized something.
mod6: these sigs that you posted won't verify out-of-the box, not that i've tried. but the detached sig must match the file name with the exception of the trailing .sig on the end.
asciilifeform: mod6: nope.
asciilifeform: mod6: give gpg both args
mod6: so if we do <patchname>.<wotGuy>.sig then will fail
asciilifeform: mod6: first payload, then sig
mod6: oh aight, lemme see here...
asciilifeform: (this is also done from inside 'v'. but, importantly, it also works - must work - manually.)
mod6: ok, yah, works. just needed to do `gpg --verify <sigfile> <origfile>`
asciilifeform: aha i got it backwards
asciilifeform: but yes, works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77050 @ 0.00069836 = 53.8086 BTC [-]
mod6: I'm about to try to fry up some of these cheese & potato pierogies .. any tips ? just fry 'em until golden brown ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00069805 = 25.1298 BTC [-]
mod6: alright, i'll just wing-it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29773 @ 0.00069804 = 20.7827 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3627 @ 0.00069781 = 2.531 BTC [-]
phf: mod6: you want to cook them in water for a bit first, and then fry them once they are cooked
mats: wat
mats: is it common to do that?
phf: i thought that's a standard way of cooking pierogies on account of thicker dough, you want to stuff inside to get fully cooked
phf: as opposed to say, dumplings
thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/636258874606133248 >> We are experiencing data corruption issues and will be offline until corrected. Sorry for the inconvenience.
mats: ive tried that before and it ruined them
asciilifeform: lol shitfinex
phf: mats: you probably overcooked them so they started falling apart
mircea_popescu: mats you need one of those wire whisks. get the water to boiling, lower them into the water, give them ~90 seconds. take out, let them drip fully, then deepfry.
mircea_popescu: in hot oil.
mircea_popescu: (dry-deepfry is so fucking retarded i have nfi why anyone even does it tbh)
mats: hm, ok
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta say something to salvage the pretense.
mircea_popescu: broomstick fires first, speaks after, it's a land of magical puffery over there.
mircea_popescu: and i guarantee you they'll continue to have all the "market share" they had before : 0 actual users, a few confused people with their quarter btc and otherwise, the whole might and noise of the usg.
phf: or mp way, which is a lot more deliberate then mine, because i only ever fry leftover dumplings that were previously cooked. in any case you want the insides to get cooked too, so if you're deep frying them straight you want to cook insides first, then wrap in own dough, then fry the result
mircea_popescu: now i want blinyi
Adlai: http://dpaste.com/0AKD3VC
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Adlai assures the concerned members of the audience that this is not from shitfinex... anybody who's written exchange APIs will probably recognize this
punkman: Adlai: what's that
Adlai: if you had to ask, someday you'll know
mircea_popescu: how to bother people, entry #985468546 : pronounce adult as "a dolt". insist.
mod6: i got these ones from a lady from .ua at the farmers makert. instructions on the top said "don't cook in water", don't cook if frozen. so I let 'em thaw overnight. then just put 'em in a pan with a bit of cooking oil. simmered 'em until golden. tasted great to me!
mod6: but maybe im pierogie heathen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00070235 = 16.5755 BTC [+]
punkman: I wonder, do they sell bottles of "cooking oil" in US supermarkets? (where you have to read the fine print to figure out what it's made of)
mod6: i can go look. this is 'vegetable oil'
mod6: Ingrediant: SOYBEAN OIL
mircea_popescu: iirc it was mostly rapeseed
mircea_popescu: (yes it's an actual plant)
Adlai: entry #985468547 : abbreviate 'grownups' as 'groans'
mod6: heh 'rapeseed'
mod6: ahh yah, canola, saw fields upon fields of this driving through manatoba
shinohai: rapeseed is used as a filler in cheap peanut butter in us groceries
mod6: "food"
punkman: protip: if your peanut butter doesn't develop a layer of oil at the top, it probably has hydrogenated vegetable oil in it
punkman: same with tahini
shinohai: smuckers makes yummy natural pb
mod6: but it also makes this abortion: http://www.smuckers.com/products/peanut-butter/goober-pb-j/goober-grape-38
assbot: Goober Grape PB & J - Peanut Butter - Smucker's ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLpDsw )
punkman: not that hard to make at home
mod6: everytime i see that stuff on the shelf, i think, "this shit is a metephor for the whole goddamn thing."
shinohai: girls go fer goober grape
mod6: heheh
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000158.html
assbot: [BTC-dev] orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLszWf )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00069781 = 3.838 BTC [-] {2}
mats: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEB0aYjVIAI88Wx.jpg genius
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLviig )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00069781 = 17.0963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49740 @ 0.00070235 = 34.9349 BTC [+]
Adlai seconds http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-05-2015#1144802 until, byte-for-byte, human commentary outweighs assbot spammentary
assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 19:24:43; ascii_modem: pure noise imho
Adlai: this is merely a matter of dynamic minimum-announced-trade-size
Adlai: anybody who really cares that much should be in -trades or have their own feed
mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144946
assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 23:34:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144802 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principal reason i'm here is that convenient packaging of mpex tickers.
BingoBoingo: !up sueastside
BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/25/1e1a509a242738a88c28abc6d300165a.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PxgMhY )
BingoBoingo: A toddler was shot and killed today, but this is the local news http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/tension-escalates-in-a-st-charles-county-subdivision-after-a/article_f4803317-4ee7-5b4c-807f-4c9d9472d15b.html
assbot: Tension escalates in a St. Charles County subdivision after a new neighbor moves in : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pxh34h )
BingoBoingo: “This is a mess,” said Jana Chamblee, who lives with her husband, Don, and their three children. “This is the biggest mess I’ve had in my life.” ... Chamblee and others on the block point to a house behind them, where Maritha Hunter-Butler has lived since May 9. She moved in with her three sons, a female partner and their four dogs. The neighbors say the dogs bark at all hours of the night, visitors constantly come and g
BingoBoingo: o and Hunter-Butler has made threatening remarks.
trinque: BingoBoingo: sounds a bit like this news I'm reading of the "market rally" "disintegrating".
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/25/us-markets-stocks-usa-idUSKCN0QU13F20150825
assbot: Wall Street's rally goes up in smoke, indexes end lower| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLQYzp )
trinque: it's definitely not a crash.
trinque: and that toddler wasn't killed.
trinque: because we can just declare things... and what's reality anyway?
BingoBoingo: You have to hit something for it to be a crash. If your car goes off the road and sink into the mud, but it stopped because of mud and not impact it wasn't a crash.
trinque: heh, I'll grant that
BingoBoingo: All of that QE was mud.
trinque: heh, the QE was a mudslide that lifted the car up, carried it along in the same direction for a bit
trinque: could toss it in a ditch, could engulf it and continue on, who knows!
BingoBoingo: I like to think of QE as the bog the car was driven into because OMG a skunk. To avoid the pain of a honest crash the doors became embeded too deep to allow exit from the vehicle
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00070293 = 17.0109 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36276 @ 0.00069767 = 25.3087 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15274 @ 0.00069723 = 10.6495 BTC [-]
scoopButt: http://qntra.net/2015/08/british-cultural-capital-controls-interfere-with-commerce/
assbot: British 'Cultural' Capital Controls Interfere With Commerce | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1hFbtmc )
mats: i climbed out of a sun roof after a wreck once
mats: the driver hadn't turned off the dance music yet and it felt like i was in a B rated movie
mats: he was high and literally said, "i'm not going to crash the car, man" five seconds before he went off the road
trinque: heh
trinque: "I'm go...I'm good man"
trinque: never a clearer sign the guy isn't
Adlai: nah, actually leaving the lane is clearer
Adlai: and unfortunately (from the perspective of "fail earlier oftener louder faster stronger") usually just results in returning to the lane
BingoBoingo prefers those nice well paved country roads that don't have marked "lanes" (because why mark up the tarmac when tractors obliviate much things?)
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 10 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
thestringpuller: :(
BingoBoingo: !gettrust smickles
assbot: Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user smickles: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 7 via 7 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=BingoBoingo&to=smickles | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/smickles/
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 225.18, vol: 37690.07736915 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 223.279, vol: 15466.33828 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 225.52, vol: 49475.33784738 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 227.6, vol: 0.19 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 224.063199, vol: 49788.19410000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 224.49439, vol: 322.23035795 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 244.436, vol: 208.98435776 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 224.759084069
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252205 << l0l, i always imagined mircea_popescu had a wooden panel full of analogue gauges for mpex, a ship's telegraph for changing course, and a speaking horn for dictating more complex orders
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 00:00:08; assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 23:34:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144802 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principal reason i'm here is that convenient packaging of mpex tickers.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << l0l, i always imagined mircea_popescu had a wooden panel full of analogue gauges for mpex, a ship's telegraph for changing course, and a speaking horn for dictating more complex orders << I imagine at times even the ships captain wants to step away from the bridge for a bit of sodomy without being completely cut off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29850 @ 0.0007032 = 20.9905 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: sooo i was out walking by the uni, and found a thumb drive
BingoBoingo was surptised when joining #bitcoin-asset-trades just how much stuf didn't make the cut for arriving here
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Interesting trap in thumbdrive?
asciilifeform: full of 'business school' homework from unpronounceably-named chinese exchange students
BingoBoingo: lol
asciilifeform: they were assigned 'digital currencies'
asciilifeform: and the required reading dir is full of 'whitepapers' concerning 1990s-style centralized shitpal-esque 'coins'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i'ma let you finished but what level of hotness are the sorority girls at said uni?
asciilifeform: some chick cries now for lacking her powerpointz
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: all levels
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: but very commonly they (at least the native ones) have 'agricultural face'
asciilifeform: or whatever it is called here
mod6: haha
thestringpuller: diversity at its finest.
thestringpuller: mod6 def knows the type.
asciilifeform: it's not even an ethnicity, but more of a state of mind
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54639 @ 0.0007004 = 38.2692 BTC [-] {5}
gernika: BingoBoingo: something's wrong with this sentence I think: "Vaizey instead want to part the buyer and his purchase to part in a sale as has happened previously when 'cultural' export bans have been applied to artifacts."
BingoBoingo: gernika: thanks, fixed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3956 @ 0.00070347 = 2.7829 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://s17.postimg.org/pz3aowt7z/11705365_1460274277632496_7058363122198226781_n.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lzwtar )
Adlai: Logged on 26-08-2015 02:57:57; Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252204 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principle reason i'm here is that convenient nucleation in the superheated fluid of trollcoin
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 00:00:08; mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144946
Adlai: fuck
Adlai: !down Adlai
trinque: ^lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00070609 = 9.2145 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Ah and here's assbot feed's best part. Keeps the conversation going.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00070367 = 4.4331 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo remembers MPOE under 2 not that long ago
BingoBoingo: Or was it 3
mod6: low was 0.00014430 on mar. 23rd according to btcalpha
BingoBoingo: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.0007064 = 6.2163 BTC [+]

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