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(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway and to round it up: there is no place that "would work" because it can't work by itself, no; the crucial bit is precisely *you* and specifically what you do; *you* can "make it work", not the place itself.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: I suppose canada takes less effort atm simply because you are there; and you are in a more fortunate position than whaack since you have a different citizenship
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002008 - yes, you are anyway paying *now* for the pension that you'll never really get meaningfully.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: the way to evaluate "minimal subsistence" is by looking at *actual* living cost; not by looking at what lowest-paid employee gets.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002001 - note that I said *are* not have! Every.Word.Counts. And the cost I was talking about was that of *familiarity*, not the obvious cost of move+having to deal with disorganised-everything (I get a feeling that Romania is closer to India than anything else; just less crowded maybe).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: by the time you are old enough for that pension, it won't probably exist anymore/come to anything; don't count on a pension, no.
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I can suspect all sorts of things but suspicions are not something you can base your argument on.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: neah; and I'm not going now to try and guess what was in phf's mind at one point or another, wtf.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: in that particular selected snippet, tell me for my curiosity *what* exactly stopped phf from talking directly to mp? and for that matter again, what exactly stopped him from telling his girl to get online and say "help"?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: and three heads to boot since we are doing this, of course.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: eh; still stuck on "logger down was the problem", right?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: what it always does: changing himself.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: good then; let me know what's your deadline for it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: how does that sound?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: maybe make a summary with any tmsr-related things that you did so far and otherwise any tmsr parts/items you find interesting
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: I doubt it can help you if it gets read like the rest; anyway, the shortest summary I can come up with: phf persistently refused to engage tmsr beyond the purely technical; and ultimately (when pressure forced a decision) made his choice for out rather than in.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahahah; by "fixing" you mean assigning them to the dev or what?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: neah, you are cherry picking bits and pieces that fit the idea you already have.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ipad app eurgh
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, you jumped
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ah, I get some idea of the thing now, yes; and what are you meant to do in this job you have lined up now?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: so what in there is "logger down"??
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: did you follow the link in that statement and read the selected part?
(trilema) diana_coman: just for a few, I really don't see how you persist in the idea that it was "logger down" the problem.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: but that's not what happened.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what is mapbox? and for the actual graph, what was it, browser stuff or what?
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935558 - re "happily put up", I suppose you have a point if you actually mean that there should be *more danger* and therefore everyone adding more pressure on the weak points, to get them hardened.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what did you use for that graphic tool?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha; put in some work there too so you don't end up in last-minute pressure thing again.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: how's that erp thing going meanwhile anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as to preferences of silence, ahem, get better preferences, you know? lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: that wasn't at all the issue and it has been already pointed out to you several times, here and on trilema.com
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: does the above fully get to you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: understand that your word will forever matter only to the extent that one can rely on what you say; as in fully rely, *every* time.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: well, avoiding the extra sharp stick by running the very real possibility of a super-sharp-stick for silently not quite keeping your word *to the letter* is not such a great approach though, is it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: ha, "today" finally came? :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ok, but what did you get to do exactly?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: no need to be shy though, consider all ice broken (and all grizzly bears hungry).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: also, you still got that wrong, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: *nothing* is implied, no; be explicit for your own good, because if the other party is left to "imply", you never know just *what* they might decide it was really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh; so what sort of jobs were those you did?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: nice; way better than reading it as "whaaaaack" in my head all the time, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what's your name?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for readers and everyone else, whaack followed #trilema thread http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935546
(trilema) diana_coman: whaack: worth noting though that this "I can start helping" is (given its history) incorrect and keeping you back; you're better served by stating the naked "I'll ask for help and do what I'm asked to do, today"
(trilema) diana_coman: you can restrict their access to the danger, but you can't fence in the danger "for your safety and security"
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: for the other thing, the situation you describe can indeed very well happen and yes, a problem, but the solution can never be "restrain your adverse reaction"
(trilema) diana_coman: whaack: so possibly #ossasepia or #asciilifeform are better places for you to try to get in.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: well, for one thing I don't think it's an accurate description of the situation in that...who produced phf, esthlos, framedragger? re esthlos at least I can even say that no, he precisely dropped out of ..production as you put it.
(trilema) diana_coman: whaack: good for you; what are you working on, anyway?
(trilema) diana_coman: drat, I still got the [][] order wrong, ugh.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935464 - hm, this sounds to me like the fundamental difference causes/purposes all over again; you are looking at what is needed (work done and done well!) and that's your start, so you build backwards, ending up with basically "too needed to fail" sort of thing.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935455 - fwiw I don't think anyone contested the quality of the technical work done by phf.
(trilema) diana_coman: from your paste though, I suspect it's mainly that you missed that part of the README where it says months as NUMBERS.
(trilema) diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like to see it taken by phf, yes) the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer the question, the threshold as I see it atm = reaching to ban from *other* castles.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935440 - I don't think my view on this (specifically for #trilema) has yet enough substance to even warrant the name of "view"; fwiw I'm not even sure that one can define a "threshold" generically, like this.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1001932 - oh, hey, great to hear it! and feel free to ask /comment.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the above being said, there's nothing wrong with working your way towards it all, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's true that canadians will not bother to beat you for it but that makes it only more difficult for you to even *notice it*; it most certainly doesn't make it go away.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-10#1001906 - you may care only about work but note that the rest will still care about you and with a big, sharp stick at that; you already got that 8-guys beating once *precisely for this*, do you realise?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: meanwhile the world actually got smaller, if anything; and there is only "home" aka wherever I am.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and now I remember how 25yo me shocked some Swiss interviewers: "why Switzerland? *shrug* For me the world has only 2 countries: Romania aka home and...the rest of the world"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-10#1001904 - the question with India is if you are yet enough of yourself to go back and impose your own terms rather than having the local terms imposed on you; familiarity cuts 2 ways in this sort of thing and there IS a cost to it too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-10#1001900 - first finish what you have for this Sunday, will you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: welcome spyked !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-10#1001886 - actually lacking time (could do with 48 hours to the day) and more productive people around, there's work for 10 easily.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-10#1001890 - never tried impersonating Odin, so yeah, no chance of that!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and in fact, the *more* ways you find to interact with it (even/especially those that fail unexpectedely), the *better* you'll get to know it
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you *need to* feel it up/play with it to actually master it, no matter what "it" is.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: is it another sort of "not smart if not got it directly" or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ^^^^ exactly as asciilifeform says!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: at any rate, the solution to "confusing" is to ...write it down; there's a reason I kept asking you to summarise stuff (and it's not because I lack what to read otherwise, ahem).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: certainly; even better: you first revise cv until you consider it best; then let me know and I'll ask her.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: heh, the benefits of re-reading, see? even re-reading your *own* questions.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: the "not ticking the boxes" quite sure, yes; re impact, from you said, you probably also conveyed (without realising it, sure) "difficult to mould to the shape we want" and since that's what they want for as long as you look at fiat-jobs, well...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that is inescapable (re mirrors and degrees).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: speaking of which, I thought you wanted to post a draft as per 1.1 in http://younghands.club/2019/09/09/week-9-tasks/ ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: conveying in actions is great :)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: glad to hear they see it, because their eyes are -from what I gather - the most "trained" mirror on the subject that you currently have.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway, I gather that they noticed you are recovering?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: structure of thought first and foremost; and note that idealism is precisely the inability to see (notice+comprehend) much of the fabric of reality.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, you need a more solid structure on which to rely so you don't end up thrown about and banging on extremes for no good reason.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: that's the minigame.bz -> minigame.biz thing
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for & with; as the saying goes, can't quite make silk purse out of sow's ear.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: not to mention that doing something *right* means also doing it for the right people, ofc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ofc they do; but either you ARE on your own feet and THEN you can even force them to buy it or ...you are the new employee desperate enough so that they could hire, in which case there isn't much to talk about, no
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, for one thing you won't be able to "optimally" anything upfront like that; you DO need a plan and a thorough one, sure, but you'll actually find exactly what the problems are only once you are on the ground.
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah, shit is never one-layer only, obviously and inescapably
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: myeah, not new; just finally realising that it's ~all, not "some" (as naive mind might think when encountering bins in sources for 1st, 2nd , 10th time)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but more importantly and now that you saw enough (?) of both: where do you actually want to live?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: not to mention that you can effectively sell the other part to the West too - local connections and know-how
(ossasepia) diana_coman: precisely capitalising on "schooled in the UK + worked in USA and Canada and with Germany etc"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw I don't think it makes sense to go and look for employment but rather directly consultancy (or at any rate your own business there)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: you don't seem to realise but your biggest win and advantage in fact is precisely the familiarity you gained with *both* systems; to the extent that you can interface effectively, it's a huge bonus but by leverage I meant your actual plan of action.
(trilema) diana_coman: nice, spyked ; by now it seems to me that the "source code only" is ~always + binaries, when one actually looks at it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-09#1001724 - how did you plan/see this leverage, more precisely?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: most emphatically, code is *not created* automatically by whoever pushes some keys somewhere; IF and only if it gets signed, THEN it becomes code and still ONLY for those who explicitly trust the signer.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-09#1001798 - note also that code is effectively created as useful item (and as opposed to random text/found on github) *by the signers*
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935311 - your znc2tmsr converter; I made initially the same mistake with mine, here's the thread re standard: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927457
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: that's good, thank you.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: for one thing it depends *whose* exam; for the other, the focus wasn't on "exam", no (doubt anyone would even "tune in" for... exam,lol); but anyway: another dose doesn't hurt, no.
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, he needs to start chewing, not like there isn't *what*; but yes, I see what you mean.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935258 - thank you! not at all a bad thing to have happening while I'm away, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: ugh, that sounds lousy; why give up indian citizenship?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you can politely ask nicoleci in #trilema if she'd help you
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: at the time I didn't have a clear "why"; what I can find looking back is mainly http://ossasepia.com/2019/08/25/the-new-old-vilnius-of-2019/?b=Perhaps&e=#select (though there's ofc nothing online from *that* time).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: can you apply for canadian citizenship?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: that's for you to check indeed, it's your papers anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: so come and visit Reading, have a talk face to face at least, then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: newphew is great word btw
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: don't you actually need a visa for the US?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I see; and according to you, it might anyway be that you get fired the moment you take any leave, be it paid or unpaid, lolz.
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, that's pretty much the ~only sort of pies actually available :p
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: they have a Why Python 2.8 post if you care.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-09#1001682 lobbes' structured account of it is a good example of attempting to figure stuff out so you can ask well-formed questions http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/the-mp-wp-bot-job-offer/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: esp if you are to still have any energy left at the end of the day.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-09#1001708 - superficially I'm sure it's not, indeed; and you probably get there to see the "naked" non-pretense thing; in the rest of places, for as long as there are still more resources around, the pretense is better kept and nicely packaged; and many - otherwise well intended - buy it in, too; but the core remains - the employer (esp western style) has no real incentive to any commitment,
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: for that matter - don't you have any holidays you can take or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: myeah, utterly poor deal you got yourself there; but the mind-boggling thing is that you seem bent on getting in another similar arrangement on dubious hopes that "they can't be as bad" and somehow they will be more committed to you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ^ meant re usual "sales" of shit is lying; by necessity even.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I have no idea re Canada but at a quickest of looks around here, it certainly seems that there are more jobs than people willing to take them on; still, I can't see any non-tmsr-job as something helping you much esp when actually doing the calculation re whether they pay you or it's in fact the opposite
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: does it seem to you there's danger of "nothing counterposes leukocyte"? because uhm, I can't quite see it.
(trilema) diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-09#1001684 - myeah, but so far focus doesn't seem to stay all that long in one place with you.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935170 - heh, so my reading of it was actually right (latin-based since I couldn't think of any valid English-based reading of it).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: what sort of jobs did you apply for in that first year anyway?
(trilema) diana_coman: pfff, didn't mean to trigger the bug on her, lol; sorry, nicoleci
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ah, you are right; yes, I misread it as -v
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: iirc this has been noted before/it's been around for quite a while, yes (though I thought it was fixed at some point); but I don't think she self-voiced at all.
(trilema) diana_coman: but you still need the shell for the .htaccess changes, yes.
(trilema) diana_coman: nicoleci: alternatively for the functions.php iirc you should be able to edit it from the blog's dashboard too, there's and Edit option in there too.
(trilema) diana_coman: nicoleci: ok, but he'll prolly need the concrete barf/how it fails to help you out anyway.
(trilema) diana_coman: !!up nicoleci
(trilema) diana_coman: and yeah, this one has some gems in it; I think my favourite is "Some more quicksighted, imagin'd these two children were, as useless shades sent to Charon by any means that could be made use of."
(trilema) diana_coman: nicoleci: do you need help with setting the selections up?
(trilema) diana_coman: !!up nicoleci
(trilema) diana_coman: oh hi nicoleci
(trilema) diana_coman: aha, very nice.
(trilema) diana_coman: this chapter of transactions reads like great fun anyway, what with "procuring smallpox" and asia-ticks
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935128 - yes and probably reader-side ie not bot itself.
(trilema) diana_coman: lobbes: kept meaning to ask - how do you pronounce your surname?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's not clear to me that you are ready for this particular offer but you should at least think it through.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: btw, there's this Python job offer right here, as an idea re "alternatives": http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934605
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re cv help, perhaps nicoleci would be kind enough to give you some feedback as she worked as head of HR in the USA so she knows this sort of shit way better than me.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I have to admit that reading those job descriptions (the actual ones) triggers my alergies instantly; it seems to me though that you should focus on "junior analyst/programmer" + target the application to each place you send, at least (though yes, I'd discard some just for being too toxic environments really)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and at any rate, ideally you'd want some remote work in fact.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: iirc my map of Canada, Alberta&Calgary are closer to British Columbia/Vancouver than to Toronto on the other side; is this correct? Have you considered BC/Vancouver too since you are looking countrywide anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: mind getting auctionbot in here too?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh; it is what it is, funnels and hags, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway, since it's Sunday today: mind jotting down and publishing the updated list of tasks for this week? ie whatever tasks you have for finding the job + the task for the 15th and you're done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: top of the funnel, yeah; but sure, take what you find useful and use it; the obs was re "cool" - I don't see much cool there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, "chief data scientist at datacamp, an education company for teaching data science through interactive online courses"; basically he's applying the funnel-model to get students, there isn't much more that stands out there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and at the very least comment and interact with him.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: if you think him cool, invite him here, what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: to "employers" you can give your github repo, sure; it prolly even ticks some of their checklist points too; the only part that is still unclear is if it's all that worth to tick their points, that's about it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: aha; well, when you dig yourself out of the current hole of stuff to do, can always start addressing that part too, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ftr the "judge" that you seem to refer to is more likely simply a "pattern-matching" or otherwise put the result of group "thinking", not any judging in any real sense.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: glad to hear you see it too; and good for you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: the past is to learn from, not to hide/avoid really; if you need to, apologize to them/make amends as needed (and certainly tell them clearly that it's nothing to do with what they did or didn't do) but *move on*; and I mean this esp with respect to reference point: literally, for as long as you maintain as reference point your parents, you are not an adult.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: "I'm not sure any of the above helps" - you answer that one too; look back to all the times you "opened up"/"shared too much" in here and tell me: did it do you harm? did it do nothing at all? did it help?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and the idealism (though it's kind of a given for most teenagers, so pretty much expected)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: basically in the whole account, the only problems are that you have terribly poor references (esp literary, wtf didn't they ever teach you any literature?)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: they... were a different class; as in: a different generation and it matters.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: btw, the account is actually quite cool in many ways, I hope you realise that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and fwiw, I hope you did get to listen to as many stories as your father would tell you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: "It is not to be inferred that it is a land of heathen idiots" - no danger of such "inferrence" at all; but do note that there's no reason you should care about "such inference" really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: most probably there were, yes; and even more likely, you were too inexperienced (possibly she was too) to figure out what she actually needed
(ossasepia) diana_coman: "for no mistake on my part" - you mean there in fact "for nothing that I would admit/consider/ever thought of as a mistake on my part"; I know very well what you mean (I didn't do them any harm/did not get in their way/similar) but at the very least you miscalculated/failed to evaluate correctly the people you lived among (or the importance of paying attention to them too, not only to your studies).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: ftr, what you call "demons" in 8th grade sound more like... teenaged, intelligent, naive, inexperienced and fully male, what.
(trilema) diana_coman: on my part, I'm deluging #o at least.
(trilema) diana_coman: lol! suspiciously quiet, or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re definitions there, I know those you refer to but I don't think they are worth much.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: to fully qualify it: too much sense to do it for *that* specific reason.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw "coward" does not apply to the situation you describe there; it's simply that you obviously (and painfully at the time, I'm sure, but *still*) had way too much sense to do that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'm not saying that you should necessarily put it as a post, no; just point out that the difference you seem to make is... not much of a difference really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: I'm not sure exactly what is the difference you make between "published per se" and available at a link on your blog.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: a good placed "why" does wonders too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter when "I would very much like..."
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whenever you find something "I would not like...", the route deeper is to ask: why?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: would not like any of them to think" -> why?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh boy, this chain is prolly the record by now, 4 lines neatly divided between 2 bots.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: there's a LOT to read and figure out on eulora and I fully intend to help you there but atm you have lots of other shit to attend to, so focus on that first.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: is/can be made by players not by "the game".
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001564 - uhm, there isn't really anything "like eulora" unless you look extremely superficially at it; the... main (let's call it this though it's "main" from one perspective and then there are others and...), difference is that eulora actually has a real economy (as in really, nothing is "created" out of thin air and *everything* - including quests for instance - is/can be made by player
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001563 - eurgh @ google adwords; I suppose it's still the naive approach but don't fall for it, ffs; in the best interpretation I can give to your statement, you mean you are looking for a source of (semi-)passive income; nothing wrong with that but you know, passive is when you are old and can't be active anymore, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001559 - the list doesn't quite fit the "lotsa" at the beginning, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: above I don't mean just specifically sculpting or shape deformation; I mean graphics overall, of which sculpting is a very tiny part.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001553 - aha, arbitrary shape deformation is one tool for "sculpting" 3D shapes (hence stuff like characters or monsters in a game for instance), indeed; the question for you here is whether this is something that really speaks to you (because if it is and you are willing to work it properly, there's a good opportunity with eulora right there)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you can ride the pain, you can ignore the pain, you can follow or back away from the pain; attacking it though...how does that even work?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001548 - pain is mostly a signal; a bit like smoke is the sign of a fire; not much sense in attacking pain, just like there isn't much sense in attacking smoke, is there?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and specifically, the best you let yourself known, the more (and in a more specific/better fitted way) you can be helped by those able and willing to do so; onth idiots will yapp anyway and "form opinions" (out of whatever shit they happen to have heard most recently) but they and such "opinions" *don't matter at all*.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001541 - the main point is that sharing brings only benefits for you, although it seems counterintuitive, I know; the main perceived "downsides" are all and entirely to do in fact with *other people's shortcomings* and absolutely nothing to do with the one who tells the truth (sure, if you don't tell the truth then and only then, you're shooting yourself in the foot)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001540 - note that *their* feelings /mortifications on whatever matter are entirely theirs, not yours! you can try to help them process perhaps if you must, but that comes, naturally, afterwards and it's entirely your choice anyway, not an obligation.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-07#1001505 - this is actually the rule rather than the exception by now.
(trilema) diana_coman: since it was quiet otherwise anyway, I made the change and restarted ossabot so I'll see the effect @ next socket error, I suppose
(trilema) diana_coman: in any case, atm the bot's uptime command will in fact report "time since last run of the bot" rather than since last connection
(trilema) diana_coman: as to *what* caused the reconnect, I can't say I know exactly: the bot's log duly reports a "listen socket error, disconnecting", followed by the expected reconnect but I can't see / don't know where to look, possibly for anything more informative.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re money /starter jobs it's true though that graphics is unlikely to work.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: except you don't need computer clusters really, ha; basically you have all the advantages but few (if any) of the downsides; note that the strict specialisation (compartmentalization as you call it) is more of a modern-day disease than specific to cfd eng domain as such.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and customising via python scripting ...Blender! basically if you change a few words in there, you'd be talking about blender and graphics for computer games instead of cfd.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: that "meshing" from CFD sounds precisely part of "computer graphics" modelling.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: fiat is short for "fiat currency" aka government (central authority) backed; in practical terms, just about any currency you know, except bitcoin
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: atm I need to go but I'll read
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: re saving, honestly, re-read the part re bitcoin stash; no matter how small, it *still* beats the shit out of fiat-saving of any sort (and even without going into real inflation as opposed to claimed inflation)
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: since you state it, I'm sure it's precisely that for you; and fwiw I'm sure you are not the only one in this either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re talking, if it's any help, I probably get it more than you think (I still remember full months when I barely spoke a few words per day); but for this very reason I can tell you now that you should still talk.
(trilema) diana_coman: obviously and proven the "don't like" is not good so ...
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: but exactly because of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934910 I just can't get the idea of "don't like" when asked re forth
(trilema) diana_coman: bwahahaha & poor pine cones.
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