asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937438 << imho mircea_popescu has mega-point in there -- i dunno re the british , but over here all sortsa nonsense gets 'university affiliated' , via barely coupla k $ of greased palms. it's almost like the 'churches' thing .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 11:56:26 BingoBoingo: They are a pair I met the first night in country
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937444 << BingoBoingo : when asciilifeform showed pet photo of that chix, was asked 'why the fuck didntcha bring her in as pet!' lol
asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the lulzcollector traps : usg nuke ministry's attempt at ffa. ( for bonus laffs, they apparently have a shithub, fulla misc. opensores rubbishes ...)
asciilifeform: there was a crate of tank pressure regulators stamped 'hydrogen' , 'patent 1943', but dun think i could bring myself to use these.
asciilifeform: ~all of asciilifeform's torture room furnishings, from there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i make regular visits to the scrapyards, sometimes find a++ deals.
asciilifeform: they were all matching pairs tho.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lulzily, the dealer sold these with a rack, also brand-new, back an' front doors & all. i have sadly nowhere for another rack to live, let'im keep it
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 16:07:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile, at the scrap dealer, asciilifeform picked up 12 pairs of ~mint-condition rack rails for 50 $ . 9 x '1u', 4 x '2u' .
BingoBoingo: A number of the tower racks do have a sort of shelving installed preventing the tower cases from being load bearing
asciilifeform: i couldn't help but wonder what these people do when they need to pull one from inside the stack
BingoBoingo: Other racks clearly filled with things made for racking
asciilifeform: saw these, aha
asciilifeform: i'm still pissed that these can't be bought in the south americas and have to be flown, wtf monkey men
asciilifeform: (normally they retail for 50-100 ea., which is imho outrageous, but fact.)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile, at the scrap dealer, asciilifeform picked up 12 pairs of ~mint-condition rack rails for 50 $ . 9 x '1u', 4 x '2u' .
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a2-botworks-viii.html << The Tar Pit -- Botworks: Trilemabot and Feedbot V patches, the autumn 2019 session
diana_coman: hanbot: you have broken trilema links on your blog as they still use polimedia.us eg those in http://thewhet.net/2012/11/shall-be-delivered/
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-20 07:35:11 mircea_popescu: can't discern if BingoBoingo is intimating he's the girlfriend ; or that he's got a pair ; or that there's independently a pair of lezzies he's following around ; or what.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: thank you for the comment; I'll chew on it.
mircea_popescu can't discern if BingoBoingo is intimating he's the girlfriend ; or that he's got a pair ; or that there's independently a pair of lezzies he's following around ; or what.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:49:08 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936099 << couldn't be more behind this. if nothing else, you learn whether anyone else has gravity worth a sparrow's fart.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-19 15:19:56 asciilifeform: ( lobbes : dun fughet to 1) verify and then 2) strip out the pgpisms in this dump , when eating )
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937380 << ty, I always appreciate n00b tips (I in fact only learned of the "gpg --decrypt signed.txt >> unsigned.txt" method for clearsigned files a mere few months ago, so you never can be too careful)
asciilifeform never fully grasped what is 'chavismo', other than a vague 'say no to colonization by washington' thrust
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Chinese and Polish Ancestry. Venezuela is a country of immigrants, which is a large part of their political dilemma. The native and African Venezolanos love Maduro and Chavismo. The EuroVenezolanos and Asians hate Maduro and Chavismo.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The thing about diasporas is they seem to throw their best the furthest distance from the zone being escaped.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: She's finally got the rest of the surviving family ready to evacuate sometime in late November.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of these -- whatever became of yer 'venezolana' ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The irony is they don't think the Peruanas, Venezolanas, or Paraguayas actually doing work in their occupied territory are people.
asciilifeform: subj for ref.
BingoBoingo: Wat do? Take out more development loans to burn on feeding the Buenos Aires hungry mouths warehouse? That's run its course. All they have left to try is Africa style "feed a child for a dollar a day" infomercials on late night tv.
mircea_popescu: who knows what speshul twists and turns they have.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's 0 fleanode-specific logic in the current bot. if connecting to diff net, then it goes in place of fleanode in 'servers = .... ' in config .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, elementarily, because it'll have to connect to another network. but no, it's not significant. it's just against retarded assumptions of "there is the limit and this is the inside we sit in" typical of boy-geniuses,.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 12:14:24 asciilifeform: for reference : the orig. urlism thread . ( last paused at mircea_popescu's 'let's think some moar' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'registering a chan on ~any other network~ and writing the bridge code' read like diff item. but if actually refers to 'bridge nets', then aite
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 11:11:17 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937305 << afaik classical irc doesn't bridge 'b/w chans' but b/w networks. ( or is the idea to bake a #t on another net and echo what is said there, via bot ? )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937369 << don't start with this, you were there when it was specced, you were all like "oh, this is clearly the right move", what 101 "unclarities" are these six months later.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I spotchecked for each of the days, so far no barf; the sad experience indicates that it's mostly a matter of actually re-reading ~all of it to spot anything but at least shrysr will help there since he anyway has to re-read.
asciilifeform: for reference : the orig. urlism thread . ( last paused at mircea_popescu's 'let's think some moar' )
asciilifeform: meanwhile in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937255 -- apparently phf still tuned in , and fixed when i asked. but really we oughta settle the url thing imho, so can finally import era1 .
asciilifeform: ( lobbes : dun fughet to 1) verify and then 2) strip out the pgpisms in this dump , when eating )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'delete from loglines where chan = 'ossasepia' and idx < 1000000;' and then eaten your deeded dump. ate w/out eggog. plox to lemme know if see barf.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 06:26:25 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937344 - asciilifeform, lobbes, corrected old logs of #o with the missing lines and ":" ; please feed it to your loggers (a drop of lines < 1000000 and then eat_dump should work fine); thank you.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 06:04:50 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937297 << also the up/down links for references nor toosoon ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937347 << that's the piece i dun have of yet. ( and imho oughta be implemented after the no-dates-url thing is properly solved. otherwise will have to be 100% rebaked when it is. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:47:32 mircea_popescu: trying to meta-smart, pseudothinking in your dumb head "if i were a literary character and these things happened to me, what'd it mean about the script" will not only fail to deliver any useful predictions (in the sense that it'll work EXACTLY as well as a RNG-choice, to perfectly fuck you over), but it will actually prevent you from deriving any benefits from the circumstance you're NOT a fucking literary character.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:23:36 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, an' considering we're apparently stuck with a buncha chrises over here : any of your resident knights capable of registering a chan on ~any other network~ and writing the bridge code on top of extant bot already ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937305 << afaik classical irc doesn't bridge 'b/w chans' but b/w networks. ( or is the idea to bake a #t on another net and echo what is said there, via bot ? )
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-19 09:42:40 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937344 - asciilifeform, lobbes, corrected old logs of #o with the missing lines and ":" ; please feed it to your loggers (a drop of lines < 1000000 and then eat_dump should work fine); thank you.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937350 << kk. I'll do the log feeding later tonight once forums quiet down.
mircea_popescu: so THERE!
mircea_popescu: in other news, hanbot i see your above an' i give you both http://trilema.com/2010/socializarea-pagubelor/ an; http://trilema.com/2010/fata-cu-visine/
mircea_popescu: [view-source:https://contortion.net/images/nude-gymnastics/nude-gymnast2.jpg][further visual aid]. check out anna's cute barefoot shoes, wtf is that!
diana_coman will grant diplomas in hair theory of an irssi format
mircea_popescu: "my gf is flexible" "does she do the bridge" "no, she doesn't exist".
diana_coman: but myeah, I ended up knowing way more than I ever wanted to about the multiple irssi formats, ugh.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: it's still those darned lines from *before the bot*, arrrgh; and there is no such thing as "irssi format", no matter how I look at it.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937344 - asciilifeform, lobbes, corrected old logs of #o with the missing lines and ":" ; please feed it to your loggers (a drop of lines < 1000000 and then eat_dump should work fine); thank you.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937297 << also the up/down links for references nor toosoon ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 21:58:38 trinque: oh wait, I'm an idiot. there's the test bot still connected from same box...
mircea_popescu: she should;ve been fucking her mothers' bf other gf when she was 15 instead. then she'd have understood just fine.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 06:24:42 mircea_popescu: (and since we're doing history : anyone know of a study describing anne hutchinson's self-evident influence upon the concept of a "witch" in the colonies, and retelling the "witch trials" as her necessary epiphenomenal epigonic downstream ?)
mircea_popescu: the holy service in latin ; and when the OTHER anne, the failed anne, the spurious anne "doesn't understand how the scripture relates to her", she gets caged.
mircea_popescu: "oh hurr durr it's ok, we'll '''fight oppression'' in the sense of the oppression of sense and reason we feel because we're stupid, and make it electoral!!! then sovereignity will never be invested, meaning nobody will be there to hang us by our ears for failing ; and besides the idiots will always vote such that nobody could tell the problem anyay! FIXED!!!"
mircea_popescu: which nobody the fuck wants -- but most everybody is not equipped to know why the fuck not.
mircea_popescu: this. because they're fucking stupid, and provincial, and beyond moronic, and their "hepry-derp o looksy, works for me, i have now invented excelreligion!!!! ALL HAIL MY GREATNESS EXCEPT SOME MANIFESTLY BETTER PEOPLE WHO ARE JEALOUS!!!!ELEVENTY" results always and forver in fucking excel.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: THIS, motherfucker, THIS is why wise men, such as myself, tell MORON wanna-be idiots, such as calvin, schmalvin, etceteravin to ne ultra crepidam.
mircea_popescu: so do me a favour an' never spend your cycles sitting there trying "to figure out" what "your destiny is". it ain't anything, you're not a livresque personage. not YET. and you don't HAVE TO BE, either.
mircea_popescu: "oh, expellas furca, recurret" hurr durr. of course it fucking reccurs, YOU BUILT IT IN THERE.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:36:16 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936612 << you bought it ~as an inflation play~ ?! holy hell man, what the fuck's wrong with schooling there. inflation is the enemy of old men, what the fuck does a 20yo care, holy shit it's all backwards.
mircea_popescu: once you divide by 0, you'll get any other result you want ; once you buy this pantsuit idiocy of "try to guess what your life might mean in context", your life will be an endless AND DOOMED quest to rid yourself of pantsuitism.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:36:16 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936612 << you bought it ~as an inflation play~ ?! holy hell man, what the fuck's wrong with schooling there. inflation is the enemy of old men, what the fuck does a 20yo care, holy shit it's all backwards.
mircea_popescu: it's not a good trade ; in fact it is the capital bad trade, the doom crow all the lesser black birds follow, and follow naturally.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 15:34:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the failure in this thinking is that "smart boi wants to use his smarts in war".
mircea_popescu: everyone sitting on ass all day tryna write THE STORY of their life results in some very limited, sad broken wrecks of lives -- because that's the one thing about fiction : to write a story, you first and foremost and necessarily MUST CUT MOST LIFE OUT.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 19:34:40 mircea_popescu: in other historic lulz : in other historic lulz : it is altogether likely that the fifteen year old anne lennard had a lesbian relationship with hortense mancini, her father's unofficial mistress and therefore the competition of barbara villiers, the official mistress.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937164 exists ~in reality~, but not in fiction ; and there's a very good reason anne's not a literary character you ever met : it's "hard" to write, meaning, writing's LIMITING.
mircea_popescu: trying to meta-smart, pseudothinking in your dumb head "if i were a literary character and these things happened to me, what'd it mean about the script" will not only fail to deliver any useful predictions (in the sense that it'll work EXACTLY as well as a RNG-choice, to perfectly fuck you over), but it will actually prevent you from deriving any benefits from the circumstance you're NOT a fucking literary character.
mircea_popescu: while it's true that in principle such a thing as the greek tragedy damnation could exist in reality (or whatever, its shitty hollywood renditions), nevertheless ~this is a point for the gods alone~. it is not a symbol representable in the mind of man ; all attempts to do so are they themselves doomed to failure.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/09/a-letter-from-dad-can-pushing-make-the-line-go-faster/ << The Whet -- A Letter from Dad: "Can Pushing Make the Line Go Faster?"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: the sustain part is the one on which none has managed yet to convince me; fwiw the task is one of those I have in mind precisely to get some bright guy going.
mircea_popescu: i'll totally ennoble them, if they can sustain that ABSOLUTE MINIMUM BAR of intellectual liveliness holy shit.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, an' considering we're apparently stuck with a buncha chrises over here : any of your resident knights capable of registering a chan on ~any other network~ and writing the bridge code on top of extant bot already ?
diana_coman: trinque: I asked (at 8:18 local time, now it's 9:43) deedbot to deed something ( !!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=n6vP ) but it hasn't replied with anything at all; am I doing something wrong there?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937291 << if i had to guess, it'd be "deedbot becoming sentient, trying to realise the irc bridge of march on its own".
diana_coman: asciilifeform: myeah; I've deployed now the latest bot too since I had it scheduled anyway (ie pressed to irssi_format vpatch); I synced the few lines with the raw knob; let's see how it goes from now on.
trinque: woah, after a restart of the service I now have two!
diana_coman: :D I was thinking mountain_goat all the time
asciilifeform: a++ spamarketing. (waithefuq is 'his' b00k in english ??)
asciilifeform: and meanwhile asciilifeform's local saduniversity institutes mandatory vegetarian menu in the barracks cafeteria .
snsabot: Logged on 2018-08-08 10:17:37 asciilifeform: based, of course, on the famous 'Жить стало лучше, жить стало веселей!' (tm)(r)(stalin)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 15:28:58 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hey, WAPO ran a piece this week celebrating "How much funnier we have become." The cancerous faggot held up 70's socialist propaganda "Sesame Street" as his straw puppets.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2014/12/changetip-raises-3-5-million-lead-by-pantera-capital/ They did the Changetip spambot
asciilifeform: ( maybe was in era1 l0gz. the d00d ran a shitcoin of some description. and asciilifeform is certain that he found out about it from trilema or l0gz, as he dun read shitcoinism straight from atmosphere )
mircea_popescu: they are eminently forgettable, so perhaps i just forgot avout it.
mircea_popescu: niggas be still pretendin' on all the scores.
mircea_popescu: meanwhike * * * "GET /2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/ HTTP/1.1" 200 185133 "https://twitter.com/@dan_pantera" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0"
BingoBoingo: I have not seen the new Chapelle.
mircea_popescu: whatever, the pravda's coming up next with "how much prosperouser we have become", to match the history of soviet decay exactly.
mircea_popescu: eh you kidding me, 3rd rate corporate orientation videos of the 90s were funnier than that netflix special
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hey, WAPO ran a piece this week celebrating "How much funnier we have become." The cancerous faggot held up 70's socialist propaganda "Sesame Street" as his straw puppets.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "whisperers" historical idiocy : woman is known as le Bel Ange Nu, supposedly because went about ~naked. no fucking paintings survive documenting the theory. idiots.
mircea_popescu: the capacity to do this exists in humans necessarily ; like any capacity it is also capable of dysfunction as part and parcel of being capable of function.
mircea_popescu: in any case : it is notoriously difficult to evaluate small children ; and eminently unwise, evaluation should start later. someone's gotta feed all the children until old enough to be killed or not.
mircea_popescu: they yearn*
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, because they earn to derealize. there's little more real than the ox.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha! i never understood why 'negative associations with bull'. the ancients worshipped the bull, the cow. critter feeds man, moar than dog ever was able
mircea_popescu: the term's not used derrogatorily but ambiguously ; consider similar in "He's a taurine sort"
mircea_popescu: but i also suppose perhaps implicit negative connotation associated to the animal's involved.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, afaik the only standing paradigm of university is still socrates', "and now i will tell you why you are wrong" ; and you are stuck re-doing until right.
diana_coman: well yeah, it actually comes with a lot of "if x then y" but the supply is just the most obvious & well documented.
asciilifeform: breast famously (if poorly documentedly) comes with a 'if defective then 'forget' to feed it' exception handler
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, has little to do with the support ; all activity that proceeds irrespective of results is what the ox does.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:24:31 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely aimed to elimi
asciilifeform sees ideal of university education as moar of a decockroaching rather than continuation of kindergarten 'learn through repetition'
mircea_popescu: yes, we could say the brain's not yet structured enough to self manage all that well, recursion drops quickly.
diana_coman: the core of it as I see it (and matching btw the breast + gender difference) is that they are not yet able to act independently (in this case: independent learning , hence yes, if you just send them to read, it won't do much)
mircea_popescu: but then again, arguably so are horses.
mircea_popescu: and "undergraduate" as the inner bounds of "adult" or w/e it is the traditional university approach to work.
diana_coman: sure, it's not just the repetition ie "it would be enough if a machine repeated it on a loop"
mircea_popescu: afaik the "woman and man are different, for the former bone exists as calcium warehouse, for the latter bone exists as muscle leverage" is not even controversial.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-07-17 15:29:30 a111: Logged on 2014-12-08 17:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://yarchive.net/med/social_osteoporosis.html << related hypothesis
mircea_popescu: breastfeeding drives a lot of immunity response, for instance. this is no small matter, if one looks at things by complexity rather than by some abbreviated "works for me" criteria.
mircea_popescu: but these seem rather theoretical constructs than practical considerations. as a factual matter, there's signifciant interplay between the child and the breast.
mircea_popescu: i doubt it. honestly, i think the breast is an exceptionally illustrative parallel. obviously, not all children will thrive if breastfed ; and obviously "could thrive if just found milk in environment"
diana_coman: for the other, I don't know that they learn just because they heard it enough times; it might be that they need to hear it several times, yes, but they would just the same if they simply encountered it that many times
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, seems the best possible construction available.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so , model of tlp, as sort of st. francis preaching to the birds ?
diana_coman: well, I don't know really; for one thing the "impression they make" is really a matter of the viewer and his impression so sure, it's consistent with one lens so why not, certainly.
mircea_popescu: however they manage to survive this trauma, by "Seeing past it" or "tolerating it well" or whatever -- the impression they'll make is "of someone who doesn't mind the shit so much".
mircea_popescu: yes, i suppose that's what i'm saying : that children are by their nature closer to animals than people ; and that the people taking them across perforce spend their time dealing with animals, and therefore they'll be covered in shit.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-fewer-tvs-or-a-billion-of-them-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - China Needs Fewer TVs, Or A Billion Of Them. Adnotated.
diana_coman: uhm; do you basically say that junior high "learning" is simply circus-like training and trainers are by nature cvasi-bovine (or otherwise ineffectual)?
mircea_popescu: what's needed in jr high is "i told you yesterday, and i'm telling you today, and i will tell you until you learn it : the panties AFTER the garter belt ; the garter belt BEFORe the panties".
mircea_popescu: my systematically dismissive "you don;t know X, go read up on it" works on... well, undergrads. in junior high however, the style's inadequate.
mircea_popescu: cvasi-bovine because like the ox will plow the field, so will the woman repeat all the words in the dictionary fifty times, so they kid can learn them
mircea_popescu: and it can get cancer, like any other gland.
mircea_popescu: men, also have some kind of vestigial this. the practice of its use is called "education"
mircea_popescu: THERE ARE MORE SUCH GLANDS. women have the tolerant, cvasi bovine capacity to talk to small children.
mircea_popescu: some of these glands are physically found on their chests. the males -- also have, vestigial version, because you know, evoloved-not-engineered, was cheaper that way.
mircea_popescu: now, for their sins, women are born with special glands, supporting the evolution of children away from the abjection they were born in.
mircea_popescu: let's put i this way : universally and without exception the most abject of all humans are children. this is what "retard" addresses : a state of abject misery that ~IS EXCUSED~ in children because nature imposes ; but ONLY IN CHILDREN YOUNG ENOUGH. as thy age -- no longer excused.
mircea_popescu: i expect it's cancer of the education gland.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the last 1 particularly egregious. wai would a ~thinking fella specifically address his worx to the most abject ameritards ?!
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-more-tvs-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - China Needs More TVs. Adnotated.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-children-with-adhd-drugs-score-higher-on-tests-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Children With ADHD Drugs Score Higher on Tests. Adnotated.
mircea_popescu: well... i aint going diging through the story of argentina, i'll just get pissed off. fucking morons.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 16:17:56 mircea_popescu: hey hanbot where on trilema is that piece re the argentine retards with ~same problem ?
hanbot: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937112 << gah, it was about that "art space" thing by la florida with the two roof towers, i remember that...but not the specific piece.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-child-rapist-murderer-john-couey-loses-by-eight-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Child Rapist-Murderer John Couey Loses By Eight. Adnotated.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-chicago-tea-party-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Chicago Tea Party. Adnotated.
mircea_popescu: and i'm starting to suspect i didn't even bother mentioning the exact case or something, cuz they were too many ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, nope, not that either.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/latino-perspectives/#footnote_0_59930 << May be the wanna be NY tower story
mircea_popescu: in other historic lulz : in other historic lulz : it is altogether likely that the fifteen year old anne lennard had a lesbian relationship with hortense mancini, her father's unofficial mistress and therefore the competition of barbara villiers, the official mistress.
mircea_popescu: yeah, hard life over at the blue fort.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-10-25 14:27:40 mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit the matter of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728843 : adrian sirbu, possibly the only romanian to have done anything since 1989 (he created the deliberate usg tool Pro Tv in 1995, a media company whose wikipedia page no longer mentions him -- very much a successful equivalent of the failed http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666048), has recently been accused of... you'll guess this not ? TERRORISM!
mircea_popescu: fun fact for rotards : andrea ESCA is named for the fleshy bait atop an anglerfish head. didn't know thsat, did you.
mircea_popescu: anyways, i expect a lot more of this trotting out / reclaiming of puppets going forward. "hey tmsr, do you wanna follow THIS esca ? no ? oook [animal eats the fleshy appendage, grows "new" one], nevermind, how about THIS entirely different other on ? no ? *repeat*.
asciilifeform: let him chase buffer overruns an' dangling pointers in the pits of tartarus 4evah.
asciilifeform: ( and imho is in fact the single most easily identifiable face that is answerable for us being stuck w/ unix to this day, at that )
asciilifeform: in the end asciilifeform cut out glibc entirely, and never again gave a shit re whether it is fixed or not.
asciilifeform: summary in log, iirc was : asciilifeform wrote to rms re the 'libnss' garbage preventing static linking of glibc. rms 0 reply. but when mircea_popescu wrote, rms answered w/ jwzisms.
asciilifeform: dunno whether this is of any current-day interest to mircea_popescu , but there it was.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: found the rms item btw : was apparently 1st mentioned in ciphrogram, here repgp'd back to mircea_popescu for ref . ( then afterwards mircea_popescu summarized briefly in log. )
BingoBoingo: So what if they gotta call him a "visiting scientist" to get him to institutionalize himself?
BingoBoingo: But yes, the absence of culture is a pre-requisite of elevation in the Incan insanity. Can't have "luminaries" tethered to the world or their place in it. MIT is more or less a sort of "day program" for "special" adults.
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that leaving aside his damning failure to show up, rms wouldn't have made it five minutes in the forum on the basis of his absent culture, literacy or generally speaking working cns.
mircea_popescu: nd this thing, which is helpful, I'd rather not add them up. If these two activities are separable in practice, in other words, if it's possible to look at each one, individually, and distinguish it from the other, if they're not tied up with each other, so much that that's a nonsensical thing to do, then I do that. Because that way, I can disapprove of whatever is bad and approve of whatever is good. That's more useful, j
mircea_popescu: ftr, by http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937123 i was discussing rms. "They seemed receptive in a general way. But you know, whether Microsoft will change anything in practice, remains to be seen. Maybe it will change some things and not others, right? That's often happens. But I believe in judging each thing that a company does separately. So if a company is doing this thing, which is wrong and unjust, a
mircea_popescu: amusingly, same place as http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/08/charting-the-charlotte-bdsm-scene-part-one-capex/ ?
BingoBoingo: Anytime someone says they are a "creative" I assume they are *that* dog on the internet until demonstrated otherwise
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's an autism standard. Kinda like how France has an international kilogram standard. That tardball of insanity is the international autism standard of Virginia
mircea_popescu has for the past 15 minutes bee nreading a tardball of insanity... wtf is that thing BingoBoingo ?!
asciilifeform: mit especially (1 time went over the catalogue, barfed before reached half)
asciilifeform: incidentally the major ustard 'university presses' consist ~100% of these. for decade+ nao.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937108 << recently in an old-b00kz shop i encountered new 'gem' of irigarayism, 'Gender and Boyle's Law of Gases' . arguing that 'boyle cheated and instead of data used the patriarchic preconceptions of his time'(tm)(r) .
mircea_popescu: in other historical "news" : james was quite pleased with his new wife, mary of modena
mircea_popescu: naah, was some business thing. back in the early days when i was still considering buying one of the tards skyscrapers or something.
mircea_popescu: nah, was some building we were meeting i don't remembe rwhat local retard that had "security" at the door.
mircea_popescu: hey hanbot where on trilema is that piece re the argentine retards with ~same problem ?
mircea_popescu: ld not be named. Eventually, we were able to get Mister Anonymous into the office, and the following conversation took place..." << keks.
mircea_popescu: "Then there was the challenge of arranging entry into building where The Register's US operation is based. Stallman asked not to be identified by name to the building staff to avoid the possibility that his name might end up in a database. "Resisting tracking of persons is everyone's duty," he explained. Meeting him in the lobby proved to be easier than working out how to ask front desk staff to admit an individual who cou
mircea_popescu: "selamgano.wordpress.com is no longer available. The authors have deleted this site." and the whole rest of the precious cuntlet / inca priestess.
BingoBoingo: Anyways the "Qaseth-1" drones the Saudis got hit with seem pretty lulzy. Chicom mower engine, 250 km one-way range... and how useless was all hardware the US sold the House of Saud to stop them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: found it, fwiw
mircea_popescu: the precondition to action is NOT some sort of evaluation whereby action's salutary, or effectual.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the failure in this thinking is that "smart boi wants to use his smarts in war".
mircea_popescu: moterfucker -- beat them both twice.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu actually had piece on this subj. where mentioned 'dragon'. i.e. at some pt the lamer's task becomes factually impossible, after tall enuff pile of fuckup
mircea_popescu: this slippery slope of idiocy, "i really should have beaten the wife, but since i haven't, can't now beat daughter".
mircea_popescu: the question is WHY, not in their terms but in mine, as the onl ypermisible terms. not "why does the moron decide to misrepresent his taks as impossible", but "why did he give up"
mircea_popescu: and yes, "to give up" as the reality is disguised in-universe, in the works of fiction populating stupid heads, as "can't"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this takes us back round to the question : why gave up ?
asciilifeform: sure as fuck worx, 1934-1953 worked a+++. but then the 'soft' folx came, and forgot how.
mircea_popescu: was alternative : goes to politburo, says "either you start hanging 10% of youth each year until they produce alternative, or else we can all hang today"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'face derealization' / 'they gave up, why' -- i was reading not long ago about keldysh (head of sovok academy of sciences, and overall respectable figure, in charge of ~100% of calculative works for space / atomic programs etc. ) BUT at same time is the fella who undertook 'let's ditch native comp archs and copy pdp'. seems like was a checkmate, rather than 'dolchstoss', saw no working alternative , 'we can't affor
mircea_popescu: specifically because it puts the female herd in line, turning them from "free" to slave.
mircea_popescu: pike really was much more important instrument than commonly realised. i would say it was the first AND FOREMOST man-made tool.
mircea_popescu: then things osciallated back and forth.
mircea_popescu: something like pantsuitism started in stone age, then man discovered pike
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a socialism before all that ; and there won't be a socialism in the future.
mircea_popescu: but, the birth of "altruism" is the red thread in the whole pile of idiotic italian nonsense : mid 1800s is where it all starts.
mircea_popescu: in the us through the italian diaspora, producing roosevelt and his nonsense, "bipartisan state" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: this fruited among the lesser barbarians in three places : in germany through cultural osmosis, producing the thing copied after musolini
mircea_popescu: to "fix" this by their own lights, they came up with a wad of poisonous inept bullshit, to their best estimation perfectly engineered to end -- not the world, not the need of the world to be managed, but the ~possibility of managing it~, in-universe fantastically called "habsburg rule'/
mircea_popescu: because they're "great people" in the sense of latins, 2k years prior, had been. so their team already won, why should they have to do work! REALITY IS UNFAIR!!!
mircea_popescu: the unfairness of this situation wasn't, mind, that they were imbeciles, but that ~it is unfair~ that ~THINGS SHOULD BE SO~!!!!
mircea_popescu: being idle imbecile fuckwits and regrettably still around as well they shouldnt', the italians deeply resented this situation, where the austrians administered them well as slaves, whereas they themselves couldn't, on their own strength, as much as organize a cup of coffee
mircea_popescu: the italians were being administered by the house of habsburg, because they were idle imbecile fuckwits throughout their existence.
mircea_popescu: here's the story, as retold by yours truly :
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-triviality-of-slaying-the-surviving-socialist-beast/ << nazi, soviet, roosevelt.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to colour in the picture -- who were 1, 2, 3 ?
mircea_popescu: which is why the sun reference. there's no possible way the hydrogen atoms "could organize themselves" to do anything to or about the brown dwarf future. it's foretold, and will be exectued exactly at foretold, millions of years hence.
mircea_popescu: its failure therefore, to my eye, is not in any sense meaningful, there's no zoon involved. it's pure and simple bion, a matter of fermentation rather than politics.
mircea_popescu: but, to round it off : the substantial difference between 2nd socialism and 3rd socialism is that 2nd ~actually had enough substance~ to constitute something someone could give up ~on~.
BingoBoingo: Or more, the Qntra text
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's in the link
BingoBoingo: As DNC high elder Gabbard declared Clinton's brand too toxic to try rigging the game around. Was shunned. Then TMSR broke DNC couple months later.
mircea_popescu: the thing it gave up on was garbage collected through whatever method. but the causative agent was THAT GIVING UP.
mircea_popescu: anyway, far from "oh, kgb sold off sovok", the fundamental problem was simply that soviet man ~gave up~.
asciilifeform will admit that he does not follow the muppetshow in realtime
mircea_popescu: i suppose what happened to all of them is the same thing : one day their derealization came home to roost, and they were so alienated from their own existence, they hadn't actually prepared for the event.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'gave up' in '70s, when the 'party elite' sys solidified into an obviously hereditary aristocracy (populated by not esp. bright folx, at that)