(trilema) ben_vulpes: currently trinquebot only logs vanilla messages in its channels
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the patch to the trinquebot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let's say 2 btc, and that'll cover the patch to record all protocol lines as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ooh pricing exercises
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: sql, lisp if you like
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: any action on recording all message lines or is that a patch i should cook?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598150 << i would be happy to stand a trinquebot up for you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: smells rather strongly of "read" == "rolled eyeballs over"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: clarify "what moves"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i kid, i kid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do eet on muh blergh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plx to blockquote
(trilema) ben_vulpes: augh gabriel_laddel_p i'm formatting your comment into sanity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you probably know this but each post has an rss feed for its comments as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: coffee nao
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tumblr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaand trilema down! a+, yahoo.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fixing my wp template heinous though it definitely is is not anywhere near the top of my list of things to do
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm one more 'undefined is not a function' away from moving to boring and raising cashmere goats
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you must content yourself with http://cascadianhacker.com/comments/feed for now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598017 << i too would like this very much!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my how times have changed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/?single=1 << "Moreover, we need not dismiss out of hand as totally parochial or mean-spirited the desire of Yankee Americans to maintain an ethnically and religiously homogeneous society nor the particular Protestant commitments to individualism and freedom that were brought into play."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/7190344459/in/album-72157630223818672/ << thick, thick lols
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the correct compiler!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > To install the correct compiler, run:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: LinkedInâs major asset is its 414 million users and the economic graph it drawws
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when trying to get shit done
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is what i want
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes i want fewer features and prettier widgets that fit in with my os aesthetic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pgAdmin 4 is a feature rich open source PostgreSQL client. It has support for almost every feature in PostgreSQL. The only downside is that the cross-plattform UI really doesnât live up to the expectations of a native Mac app.Postico on the other hand, is a very modern Mac app. Itâs made by the same people that maintain Postgres.app, and we think youâll like it!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imma sit here mashing refresh on trinque.org
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll refrain from further.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, being glib. point is that gadgets can be made to look however.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can i slam other pngs in there? probably. great.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is the least interesting thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, emerge, network managers, gui wrappers around os stuff is very uninteresting (but i suppose useful in the case of eg fs browser 'dired' and climacsy presentations). what i *want* is a lispy gui toolkit and i do not give one screaming fuck re "omg ancient athena widgets"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: give up, write everything in cpp and python, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will not write this theorem in cocoa, qt, wx, or any of the ilk.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even if it's a pile of shit g_l found and tar'd up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: four hundred dollars is a pittance to pay for a documented common lisp ui development story
(trilema) ben_vulpes shakes feathered stick at sky, demands marvelous widget be brought
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: hm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: http://cascadianhacker.com/how-to-learn-programming/comment-page-1#comment-137
(trilema) ben_vulpes: k, ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i understand some amount of "x is risky", but...specifics are scant so far
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are the security risks of opening an ssh connection to a possibly hostile host?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: o o
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is "maga"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not particularly bent about the sorting, 'twas simply what made me look at the linked stanzas in curiosity. curious about "what of it", as you say.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i'm in the same boat.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: morning davout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: notion, iirc, was to make a "release" vpatch that added *something* to *every file in the tree* to neck the patch graph down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you see http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you advocated this at one other point too, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not inverted, as far as i can tell it's a fine place in the flow for it to be. i'm a bit discomfited, and am poking an old thread about "release vpatches" that seems to have surfaced unexplainedly in the makefiles vpatch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, the leaving of free money on the ground baffles me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also what's the deal with these single-tx blocks http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate#46
(trilema) ben_vulpes: open topic for when folks wake up i suppose.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i cracked everything open, and sure enough the patch in question doesn't touch any files touched in the makefiles vpatch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways this came to my attention when i had the privkey tools vpatch on my table and it showed up *above* makefiles.vpatch in the output of both our flow utils, which spooked me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well of discussing said stanza
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: on previous thread, i have a vague memory of stuffing a RELEASE stanza in every file of a release to neck the tree down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my jimmies ain't even rustled, par for the course
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: one of the several emacs shell thingers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: what was the reasoning behind http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: k, never using that again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > Eshell does not support input redirection
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what i want is a "bitch do the obvious thing" switch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm sure it's all very useful in the prevention of foot-shoosting but ugh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no-clobber options, delete-target options
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no it's all clever and shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: naively, i figured cp simply overwrote the target
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha yes i play the exact opposite game. "oh, the recycling bin is the big one? great, that's where everything goes."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw2kn8Aead1qzpam5o1_1280.jpg << "with powerstache and fighting paunch!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it's fighting PUNCH not fighting PAUNCH you nincompoops!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that'd be the joke, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my gut is hanging over it, can't tell anymore
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maybe!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let me check
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aka "multiple personality disorder"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i snort derisively at you mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: most of the time at least
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only one woman in my house i swears.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mistress is 90% joke anyways! tell wife going to visit mistress, save time on mistress at shop!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it says nothing of living omgwtfbbq
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why did you all think this?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but hey, at least standard deduction is going to 24k for the married men
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: glorious socialist wasteland of stealing the stolen from
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i think you mean (return (many happy))
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do not live in one now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i grew up in one of those houses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hey, the LEDs last forever kid!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and is the failure in the leds or electronix?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dissect any of 'em?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ye olde edifice of scientistic governance
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yeah, that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in that it is designed to show that "blue light == bad"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda what i was saying
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is going on in their heads...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suppose because if a thing cannot be claimed about the research lab's pet topics, it is not worth publishing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although why not "hey check it out, indoor led manufacturers routinely ship uv-emitters"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looking a bit more like "oop, flawed experimental design"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and they aspire to run the world
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, why no spectra?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interdasting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in other "eat recycled food": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/27751961/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mazel tov, phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other terrorisms: https://github.com/DanMcInerney/wifijammer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dying of grins over here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just write to stdout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in other faceless women: http://68.media.tumblr.com/03e68a7063687a68e1321b2129a02ac1/tumblr_ojb3iqgp6y1rxaxgfo1_1280.jpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: damn spiffy, that's why i wanted to host it!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up fromloper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: d'you want me to get you one as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to it's just going to take an eternity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596989 << let's just say i am going to have to jump through some hoops
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has bullet points and all!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh nm it's spam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey could i beg a translation of the forum?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: ack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: omg davout great minds! http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596982 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596429
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596792 << spiffy as hell phf i very much wanted this the other night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aok there we go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: glyf.org dns servers not working for anyone else?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1591568 << finally worked through this, solid tome, thank you phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i still have no idea what adlai meant by "oe"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i didn't realize malt liquor was that fungible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: weren't you gambling opm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: missing out on all that sweet vix
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.a-k-r.org/mphash/ << adlai dis? 404?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no, it's not phf's, it's magit and i think ediff
(trilema) ben_vulpes to find a fork
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we can therefore we must!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: did you see my diff-wut screenshot from last night?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa neato
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i had a complaint about this a while back, reindenting for multiple-value-bind and destructuring-bind and friends
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596657 << yeah i found this when casually comparing the output of 'pdiff' (phf's version) with that of vdiff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bbl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: among other things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is some value in it but as mentioned before i have a c++ itch what needs scratching
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll think on this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i could use proper docstrings at that even
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did not realize that the patch could contain comments that do not affect its output, is that so?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aye, 'twas a step in that direction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: take that, flexport and co
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/maersk-teams-up-with-e-commerce-giant-alibaba-to-offer-online-booking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: WHOA
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other crackpotteries up asciilifeform's dark alley: http://0100101110101101.org/biennale-py/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mimblewimble
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kewl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ~= "dynamic programming"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "dynamic algorithm" is term of art?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: needleman-wunsch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: integration by s.limbs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there any sort of spec for "what difftron entails"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not immediately, but i will load it up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was hit with the ugly stick at birth, you can't scare me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: out of curiosity, what entails "difftron" ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda (gasp) itching to get my fingers into some cpp tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: study needleman-wunsch is in my todo list
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that title is entirely incorrect
(trilema) ben_vulpes: investor?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *investors'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: transformative humbug
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://blog.medium.com/renewing-mediums-focus-98f374a960be#.8gsm40qwc << "we have no fucking idea how to make money from livejournal in 2017, but that's not going to stop us from lighting our investor's capital on fire and warming ourselves in front of it while lamenting the capitalist system!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quite the mashup
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mnemnion: fix your connection
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have the distinct impression that i am blithering madly to davout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if the dark green indicates "preserved" then it's confusing the opener for (format with the opener for (let
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also the preserved section goes from one line to two, and the diff-o-tron isn't saying anything about the leading paren on that bottom line
(trilema) ben_vulpes: notice how the mapcar line is highlight moar red to convey moar meaning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: i think the highlighting is trying to tell me that it thinks that `format t "~{~A~}"' persisted from the previous commit to this one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/a/KuPJv << some kind of voodoo magic in there knows i moved that format string around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-09#1268284 << for the life of me i cannot find the thread to which you're referring here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bbl food
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't even programming and don't do that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how do people accidentally old code
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cute
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: k ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the ~1993 version is the original?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: typical aws digitalocean thingers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has libkez on tap?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these episode 2 crickets are unsettling, perhaps i need to write more things for people to disagree with
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wyrdmantis: again with the laptop messages
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why is 'fixed number of cpu cycles' a great thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am no karman reincarnate with god's knowledge
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b-but turbulence!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myup.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or point me at something to read?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: elaborate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very similar inputs could, even over long runs, result in very similar outputs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it would be utterly nutso to consider an ode/fluids sim as a hashing function, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: amusing on so very many levels
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i suspect that if i start to explore this risk manifold i will have trouble not ratcheting the risk back
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trained response to risky dynamics problems
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah see when they start talking like this my flugenboner starts to droop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: note! this does not mean the wings are not horizontal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: horses and women as opportunity presented
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sailboats, motorbots, cars, bicycles mostly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have only recently developed an interest in ice flugen mobiles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck levers, pressure on the wheels should engage hard interlock
(trilema) ben_vulpes: triggered
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i misspeak, 'as an integer'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (fwiw i'm down to the last ghostly suggestion, which was to read in the hash as a bignum)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless i misunderstand, the project is truly blocked on making checkpoints configurable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haven't made checkpoints configurable, so solipsist nodes won't even mine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so -- zero
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've been working on phf's recommendations of late
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i generally assume "everyone will clap" but rarely have that for which
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: just trying to get the guy up to speed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ~noon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: dunno, "just biked into office after spending as much time with family as i wanted o'clock"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: "impossible without gossipd" according to asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: you know maybe i need another cup of coffee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: leastaways not in my head
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because "map-reduce" does not reduce to "here's how i'm going to solve specifically the case where thread n finds an unspent out and thread n+1 finds its spent and in the reducing phase i collate everything proper-like"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: what if one thread finds a tx spent that another thread finds the unspent for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: or was it shorter?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: a full rescan of the blockchain takes ~12 hours on mod6's machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: instead of maintaining whole 'utxo pool', rescan for specific addresses on demand, shit utxos for that addr onto disk.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: or to lean on the clunk, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: i imagined this as a component of bear stone and skin knife transacting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: listunspent takes arbitrary addresses or just what's in the wallet already?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: have you considered hammering a spigot in for "gimme utxo's relevant to this address"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holy fuq nearly lost a toe on the ride in it's so cold
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: neat, thanks