asciilifeform: ( often enuff there's a concealed -- if not always well-concealed -- roundtrip to london / washington, sitting in 'between austria and switzerland' etc )
asciilifeform: clitler's magick wand, see, cannot alter phys. constants...
asciilifeform: ( can't even make their shitware snoop in ~realtime, moreover )
asciilifeform: in olden times, when they at least had shame, would tape deck in the very undersea capsule and retrieve with sub. today -- this , instead.
asciilifeform: imho would be interesting to formally map out these 'mystery' delays.
asciilifeform: draw -- map. 'why is vienna <-> zurich , apparently as far as moon' etc
spyked: asciilifeform, re curl timings: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3N0nO/?raw=true from bucharest, rcs-rds
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 18:31:09 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mp_en_viaje , spyked , et al : http://220.127.116.11/log << copy of 'rubbish mirror', identical (same 'dollar store' pseudo-isp) but this one in frankfurt. try the same timing w/ it.
asciilifeform: ty spyked
asciilifeform: similarly to 'vianna <-> zurich', this also imho slightly laggier than ordinary globe would suggest
diana_alt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-21#1929962 - yesterday I ran a traceroute on both (nosuchlabs and btcbase) and it was going via stockholm+london for btcbase but not for nosuchlabs (iirc it was riga and then s.america)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-21 00:00:24 asciilifeform: ( often enuff there's a concealed -- if not always well-concealed -- roundtrip to london / washington, sitting in 'between austria and switzerland' etc )
asciilifeform: hrm mebbe my globe is upside-down, but i can't easily picture how cable can run from riga to south a. direct..
asciilifeform: i suppose theoretically -- could. but wai.
asciilifeform: last i knew there were 0 direct lines from south a. to europistan, at all.
asciilifeform: tho, quite unsurprisingly, does not claim that any intercontinental makes landfall in riga (cuz wtf)
asciilifeform: 'traceroute' is of pretty limited use for this sorta thing, it will only reveal hops which behave as traditional ip switch
asciilifeform: ( i.e. rather than silently forwarding packets over atm or whatever antediluvian horror )
BingoBoingo: There's also the older "Atlantis 2" which goes Fortaleza Brasil, Senega, the splits to land in Spain and Portugal
asciilifeform: spain, portugal tho. rather than riga.
BingoBoingo: Also a couple newer one that go from Fortaleza to different places in Africa
BingoBoingo: Angola and Cameroon
asciilifeform: maybe i'm thick, but what the fuck do angola and cameroon need net connections for ?!
asciilifeform: why not also run fiber to the penguins in south p. i suspect they can just as easily pay.
BingoBoingo: Well, they need to be oppressed through something
asciilifeform: they can watch miami-vision via sat dish like erry other sad orc.
asciilifeform: betcha there's some convoluted reason asciilifeform would never in 9000 yrs guess at, for fiber-to-africa
asciilifeform: maybe some living fossil, french colonial fort.
asciilifeform: or usg drone base, etc.
BingoBoingo: Well, Chinese colonial efforts in Africa are ongoing.
BingoBoingo: And as far as I can tell, USG to USG drones is the only actual satellite internet
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they like to fiber most of the way to destination (for obv. reason)
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/italian-left-right-coalition-government-collapses/ << Qntra -- Italian Left-Right Coalition Government Collapses
snsabot: Logged on 2016-12-28 16:44:23 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1592214 << entirely possible folx weren't aware of phuctor, it's not exactly advertised much. (then again, cue mp's "they don't have a right/privilege not to be aware"..)
snsabot: Logged on 2016-12-30 13:34:00 phf: true, but alf also "won't touch the web"
BingoBoingo: In local weather, Mujica's wife will be acting president tomorrow for some hours while doctors poke current president's lungs with scopes and radiation
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/08/bits-and-pieces-of-linux-rng/ << bvt's backtrace -- Bits and pieces of Linux RNG
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform: holyFUCK the sheer fecal mass.
BingoBoingo: re: fonix http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-20#1929903 I finally discovered that down here "sour cream" is "Queso Crema: Talercrem"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 21:07:20 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: relatedly, the trad ru 'ethno-slur' for poles, 'пшеки', is quite a bit like 'пшик', what nominally spray can says.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/us-army-officer-found-not-builty-by-reason-of-insanity-in-joyriding-case/ << Qntra -- US Army Officer Found Not Builty By Reason Of Insanity In JOYRIDING Case
mircea_popescu is back to civilisation, somewhat.
mircea_popescu: lemme retrospectively confirm mp_en_viaje was actually indeed me, an' carry on.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 21:33:49 trinque: motherinthemiddle
mircea_popescu: i'm starting to suspect the actual market for gangbang porn is really ~diane keaton
asciilifeform waves to mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: can't resist to ask, what counts as 'civilization'
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-20#1929950 < it helps immensely if the woman can actually respect you, though.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-20 22:39:42 snsabot: Logged on 2016-09-16 22:54:18 trinque: BingoBoingo: aha, in fact there was a thread where mircea_popescu explained that y'know, you teach the women things
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, well, place with moar infrastructure so i can sit as mircea_popescu and not have http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926259 problem
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:13:35 mircea_popescu: do you realise every time i do a keyop it's ~half hour of slavegirl time going blind on asciisoup ?
mircea_popescu: this is in fact the definition, jungle as above, camp as in, <1minute.