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mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, so did that "bitcoin financier" in his own mind kill himself for having "traded" opm into nothingness ? his "unaccessible wallets" totalling ~100 btc dun really match the ~300mn figure in claims.
mp_en_viaje: and btw, why doesn't the qntra select work, i have to use archive /
mp_en_viaje: "Quadriga represented itself as being one of Canada’s largest cryptocurrency exchanges serving over 360,000 registered Users. Notwithstanding the size of the operation in terms of transactional values and volumes processed, specifically during 2017 and 2018, Quadriga was effectively a small operation with what appears to be limited corporate infrastructure and limited controls in respect of its operations." << gotta love the rich pretense there
mp_en_viaje: . QUADRINGA, you see, not ~everyone~, but this one ~particular~ femstate agent specifically, represented itself. it's not EXACTLY IDENTICAL to the case of usg.okcupid or usg.fetlife or usg.airbnb or usg.[http://trilema.com/2013/the-poster-child-for-
mp_en_viaje: github-retardation/][github] or usg the topnode itself. these don't equally represent themselves, spuriously if ridiculously, as "serving users" that don't exist (and they don't serve), as having money they don't have (or for that matter understand) and so following. no, not them, just this one, exceptionally.
mp_en_viaje: "legal" proceedings in the reich are strictly indistinguishable from the ancient practice of playing with the scape goat. first you feed it. then you put ribbons in its hair. then you kill it and pretend lik
mp_en_viaje: e this fixed idiocy in the world, you're no longer an unwashed urchin because the goat was the unwashed urchin and the goat was killed therefore you're now clean and respectable.
mp_en_viaje: science, amirite.
mp_en_viaje: and the similarity lulz are not just one coincidental spot of comedy, they're everywhere!
mp_en_viaje: "KYC User information, where available, supplied to Quadriga has been saved directly within the Platform. The data is not masked in any way. Administrative access such as the access previously utilized by the independent consultants and Mr. Cotten and the access granted to the Monitor allows access to view KYC information for any User. Given the sensitivity of this personal information, the Monitor has restricted Platform access
mp_en_viaje: internally to a small number of Monitor / Trustee representatives who require access to the Platform to administer these proceedings." aka "we do not like what these people did [because it was these people doing it] therefore we have proceeded to doing THE EXACT SAME THING they did and self-importantly act like it's all better now -- because it's us doing it, not them!"
mp_en_viaje: the quality, let alone quantity of cognitive dissonance involved in the day-to-day operations of femstate agents is unparalleled in nature.
diana_coman doesn't even know wtf quadriga was/is
mp_en_viaje: ~same everyrthing else is. what's kfc ? a random jumble of unwashed negros and white trash "students" ie vagabonds meeting occasionally through their phones' social media apps.
mp_en_viaje: they "serve customers food", theoretically.
mp_en_viaje: practically...
mp_en_viaje: "it;s just here, man"
diana_coman: I suppose it makes sense as moving on from pretending to learn to pretending to do /serve as there's nothing else apparently.
mp_en_viaje: jsut about.
mp_en_viaje: it's pretty bloodcurdling, this brave new world as examined through the lifting of the smallest of rocks hiding its wormy pullulation from the sun.
mp_en_viaje: scammers indicting scammers for being scammers
diana_coman: "not the right sort of scammers111!"
mp_en_viaje: you know ? pretty weird.
mp_en_viaje: it's almost as if the pantsuit honestly believe they found the holy grail of scamming, everyone else is doing it wrong (tm)
mp_en_viaje: actually come to think of it... that's EXACTLY what they believe.
mp_en_viaje: speshul&protected scammer class, aka "nordic system"
diana_coman: what can I say, to me it reads over-and-over again like all the group-thinking ever did: if we do it, it's all right because we are ALL doing it, if s/he does it, it is wrong because it's outside the group
diana_coman: i.e. right/wrong is all about whether it's "one of us" or not, nothing to do with anything else.
diana_coman: where "one of us" is really "us", there is no such thing as "one"
mp_en_viaje: so i turn on the tv, first channel is vox music, ace of base, "all that she wants"
mp_en_viaje: holy shit 90s.
diana_coman: ahahaha
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920140 << was this ever not happening ? e.g. what exactly is the diff b/w 'his majesty's tax collector' and 'highwayman' .
a111: Logged on 2019-06-26 10:06 mp_en_viaje: scammers indicting scammers for being scammers
asciilifeform: recall the famous convo b/w alexander the macedonian & the pirate.
asciilifeform: 'i rob with one ship, you -- with thousand' or how did it go.
mp_en_viaje: the problem here is that the posturing contains some element of intellectual superiority. "you rob one ship -- dumbly, because dumb. i ''''rob''' a thousand, so well they beg me to keep on robbing and weep when i give it all up and leave."
mp_en_viaje: whereas the reality contains no such, but in fact a shocking equality of intellectual means, and modes, and mores, between the pirate calling himself alexander and all other pirates.
asciilifeform: per the traditional story, alex let'im go with a bag o'gold
asciilifeform: ( 'because impressed with his wit' or whatever nonsense )
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920120 << Probable, but indeterminate. Derp crowd has been making noise about dude having maybe faked his death, running off with the coins for months. Little information to make a call until this report that suggests that he did himself in.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-26 09:15 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, so did that "bitcoin financier" in his own mind kill himself for having "traded" opm into nothingness ? his "unaccessible wallets" totalling ~100 btc dun really match the ~300mn figure in claims.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920121 << I'll try shimming the select script in. Qntra is still on a not quite mp-wp fork due to the DB changes that happened between mp-wp and qntra-wp forking from derppress
a111: Logged on 2019-06-26 09:15 mp_en_viaje: and btw, why doesn't the qntra select work, i have to use archive /
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/06/fedex-sues-fedgov-over-export-control-burdens/ << Qntra -- FedEx Sues FedGov Over Export Control Burdens
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: s/liaility/liability
asciilifeform: s/an in the process/and in the process
asciilifeform: s/burdens where placed/burdens were placed
BingoBoingo: ty, fxd
mp_en_viaje: lollability
asciilifeform: to tie into 'alexander & pirate' thrd, i'm hard pressed to see any diff b/w what this d00d did and what everyday biz at e.g. goldman sachs consists of
asciilifeform: (in so far as can tell with naked eye of what it consists)
asciilifeform: rando gox operator dun have a printing press with which to spackle the hole, is the only, afaik, diff.
mp_en_viaje: i see the same thing.
asciilifeform: physical economy hits wall, and yet some folx still want to 'financier', offer 'jam tomorrow' (despite no supply of jam even today, much less any reason to think will arrive tomorrow) , imho it aint happenstance that good % of konsoomer spare change in '90s ru went to 'mmm' & other pyramids, somehow lotsa folx eager to share in the delusion
asciilifeform: neato, appears to work.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, the problem / curse / salient feature of postmodern man is this peculiar ascetism, of the "future" ilk.
mp_en_viaje: all idealistic periods (commonly referred to "dark ages", esp when not talking of one's own) share this problem, very dedicatedly ascetic, consumatedly futuristic
mp_en_viaje: the one feature of years 400-1400 were precisely great sincerity of religious sentiment, doubled by great purity of practice. eschatological religion, of course, very scientific & all.
asciilifeform: 'dedicatedly ascetic' is adaptive if there aint much to go around
asciilifeform: i find it interesting, how typical sovok orc is incurable believer in 'skip icecream cone, save the dough', and that it is ~more~ common among the older folx, who in fact watched 1, 2, or even 3 episodes of 100% evaporation of savings during 'currency rebasings' etc
asciilifeform: reminiscent of tlp's 'the product is the feeling' hypothesis. the orc is not buying 'have money in future', he is buying 'feeling like having money'. so the evaporation turns out is minor detail, he still had 3decade of 'feel'
asciilifeform: iirc mp had a piece re how 'chief erryday biz of socialist state is to dupe subjects into underconsumption'
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's relatives see him as lunatic : 'why didja buy that btc/plane ticket/lispm, you oughta have put in 401k/realestate bezzle/stocks !!'
asciilifeform: and when asciilifeform reminds'em of how they lost most of the pennies they pinched in '90s to jon corzine et al, still dun compute in their crankcases
asciilifeform: ( for readers outside of reich -- '401k' is usa's Official national pyramid )
mp_en_viaje: weird, this failure to compute
mp_en_viaje: but widespread.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: imho it goes with the 'vhs america'(tm) that these folx moved into, in heads, when moved. and feeding corzine is part and parcel of the 'rent' for living in this fantasy
mp_en_viaje: in fact -- evaporation ~is fundamental mechanism~. there's a great monologue explaining the problem ; basically : if not lost, not truly felt like had. loss is proof of haveness, much like offspring dependency is proof of potency.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, indeed, i suspect we agree. "to have loved and never lost is not so much like having ever loved at all", there's a certain insufficiency of feeling requiring the cripple to die defeated and alone.
asciilifeform: iirc there exists a 'fetish' set who dream of... being eaten by cannibals. i never grasped exactly how this worx, psychologically, but entirely possib that 'is proof of my deliciousness!'
asciilifeform: orlov had a piece where 'people feel privileged to be robbed by such superior...'
mp_en_viaje: re the eating, it's prolly more a case of "mom finally came to her senses, took me back in". ever read "confederacy of dunces", 60s boo?
mp_en_viaje: oh, it's excellent, quite worth a read.
asciilifeform: i recall somewhere a discussion of 'voraphiles', where author sorted'em into 2 distinct subspecies, one which wants to be properly eaten & digested, but another, distinct type, which wants to live 'as jonah in whale', as a foetus-like parasite
mp_en_viaje: by one john kennedy toole. currently in the copyrast cone of shadow, but one of the very few us items worth reading
asciilifeform will dig it up, when gets chance. unless someone has it handy & pastes
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/lifes-a-helva-gumdrop-you-know/ << Trilema -- Life's a helva gumdrop, you know ?
billymg: confederacy of dunces was a great read, also had me laughing out loud nearly the whole way through
billymg: his, i believe one, other book, the neon bible, also not bad
bvt: asciilifeform: i have built ave1gnat with mipsel-sf support with a small patch (http://bvt-trace.net/src/gcc-4.9.adacore2016-4-mipsel.diff) -- adacore has snipped those files from their source distribution.
bvt: if you want, can share the tarballs as well. afaik mips also uses zcx by default -- i did not change anything there
asciilifeform: bvt: will eventually want the working (non-zcx) mechanism, but this is pretty good start, ty
asciilifeform: bvt: the 'how was built' would be moar useful than the bin tar tho.
billymg: so i'm planning to give my two weeks notice next week so i can focus on actual work. i'm also going to be looking for property on the other side of the wire
billymg: mp_en_viaje: what do you think of the puntarenas region in cr?
billymg: i'm thinking cr because it's already been vetted, but i admit i'm not sure yet what would be best for me, i just know i should get out
bvt: well, building is actually trivial -- sed 's/aarch64 x86_64/x86_64 mipsel-sf/' build-ada-arm64.sh > build-ada-mipsel.sh ; i'll do a post about this, but this'd be all the technical meat in it
asciilifeform: bvt: re mipsism -- i realized that the emulator will need , at minimum, a realtime clock, to be actually useful for general-purpose linuxism. ( the minimal draft item simulates only two devices aside from cpu/ram -- serial uart, and power/reset switch )
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, in principle you dun need a sim-nic -- can access net over slip..! )
asciilifeform: 'make', www logging, etc. are hell on a box w/out proper clock.
bvt: re rtc -- i can see that. re network - i guess at some point it may be easier to provide a (first, emulated, later hardwarized) pipe device and write a custom driver to it; basically a high-speed tty that also transfers information about message boundaries
asciilifeform: i suspect that 'slip' would suffice for most purposes, and keep the thing simple.
bvt: i have never worked with slip, so can't tell right now
mp_en_viaje: bvt nice!
mp_en_viaje: billymg, on a personal note i fucking hate puntarenas ; rural shithole, terrible services, connects by boat to nicoya which idem rural shithole, terrible services.
mp_en_viaje: businesswise i dunno, if you have some kinda insider tip then it may work for you ; but in the general i suspect cr is actually overbought as it stands, and while the effect may be least noticeable in the rural edges, there's a reason for this -- marginality dampens, meaning the tiny sliver of overboughtness spilled all the way to over there is actually fair and market supported, meaning good times won't propagate any better.
mp_en_viaje: prolly a better bet to buy real estate in ukraina or syria than costa rica. it's always good to buy in places the pantsuits just finished "helping" and sell in places they're just about to start "helping".
mp_en_viaje: depends what you want and what you're doing, kinda the problem here is, a very general question can't possibly get but the most useless of vague answers.
billymg: i also thought of a small b&b in tamarindo, to generate income, plus something else with more acreage to live on further inland. i also know a girl here, who already speaks spanish and is entrepreneurial herself, who could be relied upon to run such a b&b
mp_en_viaje: mind that owning real estate [as a business] in foreign jurisdictions, esp exotic ones, is generally very demanding of the owner, in terms of business acumen and experience and etc.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, lotta people do that, i'd sat 40% actually make any money. like, ever.
billymg: in terms of what i'd see myself doing, i think the most important task for the rest of my life is to protect my keys, if i can do that then i should be fine
mp_en_viaje: so it comes down to the brass tacks, how low can you keep the costs of making breakfast and how likely the chick's to run off etc.
billymg: beyond that my goal would be to work on whatever the republic needs working on
billymg: and fill as many gaps in my knowledge -- technical, lingual, personal -- as i can
mp_en_viaje: nothing wrong with that.
billymg: she would offer other services as well, tantric massage, bdsm stuff is her speciality here
mp_en_viaje: where the fuck did you find a bdsm local in cr ?!
billymg: oh oh, in nyc
billymg: but open to moving
mp_en_viaje: so wait, you wanna import a nyc hussy in cr, and she's willing to go ?
billymg: possibly, yes
mp_en_viaje: hell yeah. forget the bs, get yourself a spot in jaco, put up neons larger than the wall.
mp_en_viaje: and advertise in san jose, the shitty part around us embassy (escazu)
mp_en_viaje: also make sure you can get her some back-ups, and other such protective measures.
billymg: back-ups?
mp_en_viaje: forget the "b&b" bs, there's 5`000 of them and most don't make money.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, take a hair stylist with no clear ideas of the future along, or at least take about the possibility of joining etc.
mp_en_viaje: the cr pink market is fuckiong desperate. the locals are braindead, the entire reason cr tourism is dying is that the tards permitted their pink market to die out sometime between 1995 and 2015.
mp_en_viaje: you can literally fix a small country, if you can be arsed.
mp_en_viaje: get yourself support locally, too. there's a few remnant pantsui torgs that need strangling ; i murdered one there's just a few left. they must be publicly raped, and then get the repubkican style institutions going.
mp_en_viaje: "0 tolerance for uppity old women organization", instead of the "acoso callejero awareness bullshit'
billymg: neato
mp_en_viaje: it's so small tho, and so everyone's cousins, all you really need are a coupla prominent lawyers, a head of this or that here and there, and the cool head to use it.
mp_en_viaje: and with this, /me shall bbl.
billymg: not the line of work i pictured myself in but this is making it sound more interesting
billymg: mp_en_viaje: ty for the perspective on this. if it's not out of line to ask, have you left cr behind for good?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920243 << Here the expat trap is all the expats wanna go into farming without a solid idea how to do it.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-26 19:21 mp_en_viaje: forget the "b&b" bs, there's 5`000 of them and most don't make money.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 16:56 asciilifeform: http://ru-ar.ru/starovery << photo-reportage re subj.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm talking the US-fugees
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920218 << vintage likbez. ( and if you've ever used ordinary modem, chances are -- you've used slip )
a111: Logged on 2019-06-26 18:57 bvt: i have never worked with slip, so can't tell right now
asciilifeform: simply happens to be a historically popular scheme for shoving packets through a serial line.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920222 << can't speak re syria, but the notion of 'buying property' in ukristan is imho lulzy.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-26 19:13 mp_en_viaje: prolly a better bet to buy real estate in ukraina or syria than costa rica. it's always good to buy in places the pantsuits just finished "helping" and sell in places they're just about to start "helping".
mp_en_viaje: billymg, ah, no. just talking the sluts through yurp during the rainy season.
mp_en_viaje: will be back in cr before long.
mp_en_viaje: and sure, a partnership is not off the table ; subj ofc to vetting your gal, you &c.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, why lulz y?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-10#949583 is what i was thinking
a111: Logged on 2014-12-10 00:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps a thread here? but can't seem to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps a pub somewhere in thailand, or cambodia, etc. the locals - drink for free. he fancies that if he begins to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in the back of his head he knows what will happen to his sorry arse if he were to do so.
mp_en_viaje: i didn't propose run a business, esp public facing.
mp_en_viaje: most real estate in ukrlands is owned by banks as it stands anyway, austrian etc.
mp_en_viaje: and there's exactly 0 likelihood kiev's ever gonna be anything other than a latvia.
asciilifeform: it's a shaky latvia, has erry chance of transition to zimbabwe in near term
asciilifeform: and even for residence where one sits tightly , can think of better landscape than where half dozen sovok-era nuke plants running on square 'general electric' fuel rods hammered into round holes with sledge
mp_en_viaje: land in zimbabwe was never free ; and besides, this zimbabwe freeranges decent cunt.
mp_en_viaje: nothing wrong with owning a few acres of top slut pasture.
asciilifeform: could own pasture, but not necessarily have to live in it
mp_en_viaje: result of irradiating 1mn sluts might be +ev, actually.
mp_en_viaje: we were discussing business not living arrangements.
asciilifeform: hm i read billymg's q as re where ought he to take up residence.
asciilifeform: if re biznis, then how could disagree, own, sure, acres of urk, penguin plantation in antarctica, why not.
mp_en_viaje: in other wtf, back to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920146 lulz : "Legal Fees - Monitor 851,776.31 Monitor Fees 676,908.61 Legal Fees - Applicant 454,950.46 Legal Fees - Rep Counsel 388,282.12"
a111: Logged on 2019-06-26 10:33 diana_coman: what can I say, to me it reads over-and-over again like all the group-thinking ever did: if we do it, it's all right because we are ALL doing it, if s/he does it, it is wrong because it's outside the group
asciilifeform: it'd not surprise asciilifeform if mp_en_viaje said that he still owns acres of buenos aires, on off chance that he ever needs to park some nuke waste somewhere
mp_en_viaje: cocksuckers actually had the gall to charge MILLIONS in fees. for doing what the fuck, ernst & young is only famous for fucking up everything they touch.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc e&y is a carrion-eater, comes to finish off dying corps and feast on corpse
mp_en_viaje: it also provides ~useless "services" to usg.corps still living
mp_en_viaje: it's what;s called a money sink in ( badly made) computer game economies.
mp_en_viaje: sucks out the "excess" gold resulting from welfarist approach to corporations
asciilifeform: same thing the real estate people do on the konsoomer end
mp_en_viaje: also spent 9k in "advertising" and 35k in "media services" and so on
asciilifeform: lol 9k buys what, 1 google ad ?
mp_en_viaje: why the fuck woyuld it be paying google money now.
mp_en_viaje: i expect an ad in whatever nova scotia shit paper go for 10-20 bucks, wtf.
billymg: mp_en_viaje: sounds good
billymg: asciilifeform: new residency is primary goal, yes
billymg: i'm hindered by my ESLness and spanish seems like one of the easier languages to pick up, so that factors somewhat into where i'm looking
billymg: buying property in tropical_beach_location also seems like least questioned way of moving fiat, seeing as how retiree expats do it all the time. otherwise would probably just rent first
BingoBoingo: Lots of ads here for beachfront "lots" that are... frequently on the other side of the land/water border
billymg: i wouldn't mind going there either
BingoBoingo: Well, Costa Rica is tropical. Here I'm at roughly the same latitude as St Louis. We have a winter. Not particularly cold, but the days get short.
billymg: i'm fine with that too. actually i'd be quite fine staying in texas forever if it weren't for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877612
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 22:13 mircea_popescu: you can't legally do anything but die quietly in a corner.
trinque: asciilifeform: any history writers you recommend on the soviet era? I watched that garbage of which Orlov wrote, characters might as well have winked at the camera and sang "take me out to the ballgame"
trinque: can't say I buy Orlov's flag-waving either ftr.
asciilifeform: trinque: cannot, sadly, rec any that wrote in eng.
trinque: eng isn't a requirement; it'll just take me longer
asciilifeform: difficult q -- sovok makes 0 sense except in light of assorted dysfunction of preceding era, which in turn...
asciilifeform will have to think
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