ave1: goodmorning, I was digesting te logs
ave1: and read all the gnat problems
ave1: I was working on getting a cuntoo up (which is going slow, I need to relearn to build a kernel, this used to be a lot easier 20 years ago)
ave1: I'll park that and start running the gnat build script.
ave1: not yet, I'm now trying to get the build up and running
mircea_popescu: well, if you don't have experience with it or anything, it's not urgent -- can continue with cuntoo, can switch to this, either way.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 16:12 diana_coman: hm, full replica might require I upload somewhere the tarballs too since at least 1 link was broken ; anyways, it's with
http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-always-static/ + taken out the download script for ada2016 because broken link + added GCC_CONFFLAGS="--enable-sjlj-exceptions" to extraconfig.sh ; set path to point to existing and working adacore 2016 gnat + put all tarballs in their place
diana_coman: ave1, it was the link that downloaded the gcc src and stuff for adacore2016 ; after that first fail I just copied my own stuff into tarballs/ , packed properly and never really bothered with the rest i.e. it builds all offline now anyway
diana_coman: update re builds: it built fine with --enable-sjlj-exceptions in place, checked it in the log and yes, it's set; but the result still seems to be build ada code with zcx in fact (i.e. my test code with tasks is STILL hung waiting for them to abort) and if I specify --rts=sjlj to gprbuild it complains that there is no native compiler for ada and so can't do anything; ftr I compared the dirs of my adacore install and it has this specific dir
diana_coman: rts-sjlj with its own adainclude/ and so on; so I am back to my previous obv that this flag per se is apparently not enough
ave1: diana_coman, in system-linux-*.ads (in gcc/ada directory) you'll find the line: ZCX_By_Default : constant Boolean := False;
ave1: I'm currenlty building with it set to False, but it is True in the distributed files
bvt: hello. ave1: doesn't makefile.in in gcc-interface tweak it with sed to the necessary value?
diana_coman: ave1, ah, thanks! I'll set it to false and try again then
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 00:53 asciilifeform: they're as diff as x86 an' x64
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 10:07 bvt: hello. ave1: doesn't makefile.in in gcc-interface tweak it with sed to the necessary value?
diana_coman: oh hey, apparently ave1's find was spot on!
diana_coman: after all the struggle I'm still looking suspiciously at it, lol
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 02:32 mircea_popescu: so yeah, much like retarded russkis go "oh, we too businessmen, gave $dork state income, now he can buy suit" (
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788430 finest example), the ustards are all "oh, gave computing to wintel, can has tech!!!"
diana_coman: asciilifeform, how did you vivisect that pair of binaries? I'd rather do it to see what came out since otherwise I have only this "oh, now it DOES kill tasks!"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you by any chance recall the princeton "trained psychologist" on okcupid who couldn't spell but was nevertheless doing diagnosing over the phone ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll have to dig, but it sounds very familiar
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think she means to learn how it's done.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it's of course cheaper to just ship the object files to him
diana_coman: mircea_popescu yes + I must say I like the idea of "rip'em open after tea" - sounds great; but other than that: I'll try objdump too since after this gnat-adventure I'd rather have some way to look inside it
diana_coman: asciilifeform, they abort; we are sawing them open because I don't trust it anymore re "what does it actually do exactly"
BingoBoingo: AHA, the perils of searching for keywords so strongly associated with constant failure
BingoBoingo: Princevard, harMIT, they all blend together
diana_coman: asciilifeform, here it is: ossasepia.com/available_resources/sjlj_testtasks.tar.gz
diana_coman: I added a delay in there before the final check of tasks
mircea_popescu: the "textbooks" this generation of mostly female, mostly useless college kids don't read are very fucking different from the textbooks we didn't read twenty years ago.
mircea_popescu: as per the "this is the shop where we don't have talapia. the shop where they don't have salmon is down the street"
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 01:10 asciilifeform: ida is a particularly interesting case because it is a TOTAL monopoly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shouldn't eggog, should redirect you to explainy.
mircea_popescu: well, i did what the article proposes, set my referrer to trilema permanently, so i always see trilema pics.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, my htaccess got fucked meanwhile.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, thank you! and yes, I know it's not enough to know what it does exactly but it's still useful.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 23:36 mircea_popescu: but seems he ALSO found a race condition in the handlers ?
bvt: (still tested only with gnat2017, but this is a different story; i see no reason to believe that ave1gnat does not have the same issue)
bvt: i.e. with static linking, all locks are compiled into noops.
bvt: i still have no solution for this, afaik musl authors solved the problem for fortran and c++, but gnat seems to lack equivalent knob
bvt: however i don't understand if this is possible only to achieve only for gnat components, and when i do it globally, i get 'undefined symbol' when linking with libgcc
BingoBoingo: In other news, odometer on my meat just rolled over
mircea_popescu: btw : Franco is presently interned << interned means someone's in jail. interred means someone's in the earth.
BingoBoingo: I'll keep the tin women hasn't been meme'd hard enough in mind in the future
mircea_popescu: maybe just link it ; but even so i'm nopt sure what "uch offers and promises none of these cities would abide the tin woman passing his dick pic around to all her friends that aren't him" means.
mircea_popescu: it's been 50 years, by now it's just some specially-designated earth.
a111: Logged on 2014-01-16 04:40 asciilifeform: "Sewers caused all our troubles. The masses of this country are not like your Americans, nor even like the British. They are slave stock. They are good for nothing but slaves and only when they are used as slaves are they happy. But we, the decent people, made the mistake of giving them modern housing in the cities where we have our factories. We put sewers in these cities, sewers which extend right down to the