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la: why are you doing this? kinda curious
mircea_popescu: cuz i can
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Tell her she doesn't have to worry about her family seeing
douchebag: fucking women
mircea_popescu: why, her family reads trilema ?
douchebag: No her family doesn't she's just worrying
la: enjoy
la: I'm shy
mircea_popescu: write it ON the tits, silly.
la: it is on there
la: :(
douchebag: la I told you on the tits
mircea_popescu: let teh other girls guide you.
la: is that alright
la: im kinds anxious
la: fuck
mircea_popescu: eh relax.
douchebag: Write it on your tits - it will be fine.
deedbot: la voiced for 30 minutes.
la: writing on tits is difficult
la: im trying my best here lol
mircea_popescu: are you encountering some... difficultits ?
la: is it cool if its upsidedown
la: yes lol
la: it's hard to write
douchebag: jesus christ..lol
trinque: I dunno, my pantomiming over here suggests its doable.
mircea_popescu: she has a point, girly self-paints are harder than they seem
trinque: I guess the medium squashes all around on them
mircea_popescu: irresistence of the medium!
la: there
la: I didn't have a marker
la: so too hard to write but I got it backwards
mircea_popescu: hey, pretty.
mircea_popescu: !!pay la 0.02
la: thanks ^_^
mircea_popescu: so what do you do, other than writing on your tits ?
la: !!balance
la: mainly just chat with friends privately
mircea_popescu: la it'll prolly take a few.
mircea_popescu: la ok but i mean, do you go to school ? work ?
la: yeah I go to school and I work part time
mircea_popescu: what kinda school ?
la: UCI
mircea_popescu: universal computing interface ?
la: Uc irvine lol
la: !!withdraw 0.02 13MqJfbdNo1YHui1Dq61YFKXAU82t9KCzb
mircea_popescu: ok, but i was more asking in the sense of what field.
la: oh like informatics
la: !!v 4286EA1E2AE1A06044640406EB3448F62CEC0FB902F7ADFC5C25E7886A7403E6
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: !!rate la 1 universal computing informatics.
mircea_popescu: la well, now that you've found this place maybe stick around. who knows what monstrous horror you might find to scare your teachers with.
mircea_popescu: teh republic is looking for more women to put teh tech into all the time anyway.
trinque: la: douchebag: I'm gonna run these withdrawals in the morning, big line of storms coming through.
la: it isn't that bad here
trinque: I don't want the airgap box zapped.
la: how long will it take to go through btw :#
douchebag: la: in the morning
trinque: la: your withdrawal command popped a piece of paper with a qr code on my end.
trinque: I take that and fiddle with an airgapped machine, which produces another qr code, your txn.
trinque: so, it is meat-bound.
la: wow you're such a nerd
trinque: hey I'm not the one studying computing informatits or w/e
la: <3
la: just kidding
la: yeah but I'm not as smart as you :(
trinque: republic's got this brain straightening effect, you'll find.
la: is it cool if I can invite my friend in here?
la: she's down to post tits
trinque: of course.
la: she'll be here soon :3
trinque: so how do you know douchebag? from lode's thing?
douchebag: No, we're in a political discord server together
trinque: !!up la
deedbot: la voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: emily22: welcome
mod6: !!up emily22
deedbot: emily22 voiced for 30 minutes.
emily22: I'm here to show you guys tits
mod6: this is starting off well
trinque: ranks among the best intros eh?
mod6: for certain
emily22: I haven't done anything like this before >.>
trinque: la: you oughta be able to self-voice by pm'ing !!up to deedbot
deedbot: 5B4DF394BFF6514A39B7E6EF62797679B472DD54 registered as emily22.
emily22: did I do that right?
la: imma grab a snack omg
trinque: emily22: yup, you registered.
emily22: what code do I need to write?
trinque: gonna have to wait for mircea_popescu for the tits bounty
emily22: okay
trinque: douchebag: y'know, once you bring two women by the forum topless I dunno that you get to keep the pantsuit "autism" hat anymore.
douchebag: haha
trinque: emily22: also from the discord, or?
emily22: yeah
la: yeah we're discord friends
la: I told her about it
emily22: la told me about it
trinque: you know, we're somewhat political ourselves.
douchebag: It's a right wing discord server w/ mostly conservative people
ben_vulpes: douchebag: well link it or will that get you excommunicated?
douchebag: I don't have permission on the server to grab the server link
la: only the mods can give links they're a bit stuck up
douchebag: They stopped that after discord started banning right wing servers
ben_vulpes: probably also, guys eh? "the shy gender"
emily22: there were a bunch of random people coming in all the time
la: the guys there are all ugly and rude
douchebag: that too
trinque: douchebag: so why not build your own discord thing, instead of letting cali pantsuits tell you what you can say?
emily22: now it's comfy :)
douchebag: trinque: Actually, I did
douchebag: Me and some friends were working on a project awhile back
ben_vulpes: emily22: maybe tell 'em about this thing called the wot and voice model, where someone has to vouch for you before you can waste everyone's time
trinque: (he could say, and you use freenode, and I'd agree!)
douchebag: We use a custom ircd to handle the messages and such
trinque: douchebag: v-patch worthy thing?
douchebag: Not yet, it's a web app so I'm not sure if you guys would be into that
trinque: probably not web, no
ben_vulpes: !!rate emily22 new blood
ben_vulpes: !!rate la new blood
ben_vulpes: wow damn girl did you actually snag that 2char nick?
trinque: ben_vulpes: pls to integer
emily22: when is mircea_popescu going to come in? He's the one asking right?
ben_vulpes: !!rate la 1 new blood
ben_vulpes: !!rate emily22 1 new blood
ben_vulpes: trinque: good error msg, thx
trinque: boop.
ben_vulpes: !!v 4DFDD6DFAD4AF74B37D02C0D515E98C35B80D161D0CCBC3ABDAA13B7A1D0219A
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated la 1 << new blood
trinque: emily22: may have gone to bed by now
emily22: oh...
ben_vulpes: !!v D2FD5EB86434A7B6B4F850710864DF16CC6D9EF71A1A1FB860E5A16D0EC4F9A8
trinque: will you still have tits in the morning?
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated emily22 1 << new blood
trinque: you never know these days
emily22: yeah I will
trinque: stick around then. thing's right wing as hell.
trinque ftr developed through the american libertarian thing in his say 18-20 or so.
ben_vulpes: cleared my head of all sorts of retardation too
ben_vulpes: best place in the world to spend your twenties if you're into scooping bits of your own brain out
ben_vulpes: later f'reel
trinque: ben_vulpes: nite
trinque: la: emily22: give self-voicing a try, so you don't have to ask permission to speak next time.
douchebag: ill explain to her how to do it
trinque: emily22: the bot you registered with controls voice. douchebag will tell ya
douchebag: im explaining in voice chat right now
la: I'm gunna go to bed now it's late and I have class T_T
douchebag: trinque: just curious, since I got .01 earlier
douchebag: What would the fee for that be?
emily22: so does this guy just collect a bunch of tit pics?
douchebag: emily22: precisely
trinque: douchebag: looks like about 0.00002 atm
douchebag: forsure
trinque: and since there are two in the hopper, it gets split between the two.
trinque: if whole amount is withdrawn, I subtract fee from it, otherwise take from the balance
douchebag: Cool
trinque: was actually about to cut these, and the lightning started again. so morning.
mircea_popescu: nah, im here.
mircea_popescu: emily22 what did i miss
emily22: la told me about this
mircea_popescu: a right. and let me guess, your first time too ?
mircea_popescu: !#s "later tell"
a111: 4389 results for "\"later tell\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22later%20tell%22
mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell la you can voice yourself by the way, just say !!up to deedbot in a pm then !!v its string.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
emily22: well I've never posted myself before...
emily22: at least not my body
mircea_popescu: emily22 b837af56
emily22: you want me to write that?
emily22: is that okay?
mircea_popescu: i daresay it is, yes.
mircea_popescu: !!key emily22
mircea_popescu: !!pay emily22 0.02
mircea_popescu: emily22 so what do you do, other than writing on your tits ?
emily22: I'm in school right now
mircea_popescu: studying what ?
emily22: I'm studying for political science, but I might switch to something else, I'm not sure
mircea_popescu: they have political science in like... wisconsin ?!
emily22: Yeah, they have political science almost everywhere...
emily22: !!balance
emily22: it isn't showing in the balance :P
mircea_popescu: yeah it's not instantitious. give it a few.
emily22: okay
emily22: how many girls have done this?
mircea_popescu: coupla dozen or such
emily22: wait you're going to post it on that site...
douchebag: its fine nobody you know will see it
emily22: !!balance
mircea_popescu: in other news, here's a novel idea for slavegirl torture : have her hit the gym really hard, then once her muscles are nice and sore and she can't defend herself... give her a nice massage or something. i sweat this thing squeezing a thigh while suckling a tit felt outright japanese.
emily22: !!withdraw 0.02 1NgN2mXwi4zc4bmVTSVdr6ciHp7LJ8L4Nj
emily22: !!v 4A003ECC24272679E8B45CCBB84BE2CE82AF3746881AC0058A7815787C3BCAE6
mircea_popescu: incidentally, can you draw ?
mircea_popescu: or do you knwo anyone who can ?
emily22: I don't draw
emily22: And I don't really know anyone who draws well
mircea_popescu: me either. sucks ;/
emily22: what do you need drawn?
mircea_popescu: i'm toying with the idea of sponsoring a comic. you ever seen oglaf ?
douchebag: Mohammad and Friends
emily22: no I haven't seen that
mircea_popescu: it's quite popular here.
mircea_popescu: !#s "oglaf.com"
a111: 286 results for "\"oglaf.com\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22oglaf.com%22
douchebag: Actully MP
mircea_popescu: anyway, something like that, but more in the vein of midnight on mars, if you know him
douchebag: I know someone who can draw
mircea_popescu: but well ?
mircea_popescu: show me ?
douchebag: I just messaged him
douchebag: ll show you some of his work when he replies
douchebag: He does a lot of political cartoons and such
mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo ben_vulpes asciilifeform : any of you read the output of uruguay's most famous (slash only) intellectual, the supposed comte de lautremont ?
douchebag: ooh looks like we got another
mircea_popescu: !!up Tea_
deedbot: Tea_ voiced for 30 minutes.
Tea_: hey
Tea_: I heard I can make money for my tits
Tea_: lol?
mircea_popescu: did you post nudies before ?
Tea_: I have shown pictures to bfs and stuff?
mircea_popescu: the day of virgins. anyway, sure, write b933e5f5
Tea_: !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IltvC/?raw=true
deedbot: 89517A442CE8D81AE81A70699A0DC2FF3F7554A9 registered as Tea_.
Tea_: i'm trying to make the pic look good
mircea_popescu: go for it.
Tea_: uggh lol this is harder than i thought
emily22: how long have you been doing this?
mircea_popescu: looking good ?
mircea_popescu: emily22 me ? since 2014.
emily22: is that all the girls who did it on your site?
mircea_popescu: most of them, i think. i left some out, mebbe, nfi.
Tea_: I have to rewrite it, it wasn't readable
emily22: so it's kind of an exclusive club, lol
mircea_popescu: of course.
mircea_popescu: check it out lol, polsci chick, wants to get to the bottom of things.
mircea_popescu: what did you want to change it to ?
Tea_: https://i.imgur.com/t4Q8dL7.jpg
mircea_popescu: Tea_ that is a horrible camera. wtf is it ?
Tea_: its a shitty webcam, by phone camera is fucked
Tea_: *my
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, no good. get one that's not taken with a potato, and preferably with the light behind the camera not behind you
Tea_: okay, give me another minute
mircea_popescu: !!up Tea_
deedbot: Tea_ voiced for 30 minutes.
Tea_: https://i.imgur.com/Uzbk8TJ.jpg
Tea_: mircea_popescu is this okay ?
mircea_popescu: and my my, aren't you pretty.
mircea_popescu: !!pay Tea_ 0.02
Tea_: !!balance
mircea_popescu: you gotta give it a minute
mircea_popescu: Tea_ anyway, what do you do ? as a vocation i mean
Tea_: waitress
Tea_: !!balance
mircea_popescu: how would you feel about taking a vacation to costa rica one of these days ?
Tea_: thats sounds alright, I would have to know you better
Tea_: How about Fiji?
mircea_popescu: meh. i don't like islands.
Tea_: !!withdraw 0.02 17rwcUhnxrVvNEVXh5AN7vdSTUz9VDv3ek
Tea_: So what do you do? Also, what about Indonesia?
mircea_popescu: i ? i'm you know, a lord of the most serene republic.
Tea_: !!v E7CDACC8432283389E6BBF6AF13F594FBA143766548335A5A99D57A90A360212
mircea_popescu: and i manhandle baby turtles.
Tea_: haha really?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Turtles are cool
douchebag: I have a picture of an adult snapping turtle I caught - sec
Tea_: I wish someone would buy me a turtle, they are so cute
mircea_popescu: eh, these belong free.
Tea_: How many turtles do you have?
mircea_popescu: me ? none.
mircea_popescu: i didn't take them home or anything.
mircea_popescu: douchebag you really should start a blog, you know that ?
Tea_: o okay haha, so have you been to costa rica already?
mircea_popescu: it's how civilised people do their online things.
mircea_popescu: Tea_ i live here.
mircea_popescu: with mah harem.
Tea_: Tan, vos hablas español? jaja
mircea_popescu: douchebag did you eat it ?
mircea_popescu: Tea_ si.
douchebag: Saw a mound of mud
mircea_popescu: yo hablo todos los idiomas, y algo mas!
douchebag: put a stick down in the mud and it made a hollow noise
douchebag: so i knew it was a snapper
douchebag: reached in and pulled the fucker out
mircea_popescu: can lose a finger doing that
Tea_: yo he aprendido español en Uni, pero queiro aprender mas!
mircea_popescu: Tea_ no hay mejor por aprender que vivir donde se habla.
douchebag: ooh yeah he was quite mean
douchebag: I love going on creek walks and catching wildlife
Tea_: Tan, si voy a la costa rica, vos podes enseñarme?
mircea_popescu: douchebag did you see the eagle ?
douchebag: eagle? nah
mircea_popescu: Tea_ certo!
douchebag: We don't have eagles around here, we got hawks
mircea_popescu: Tea_ : say !!up to deedbot in a pm
mircea_popescu: o wait i didn't rate her yet.
mircea_popescu: wait 2 minutes, then do it!
mircea_popescu: !!rate Tea_ 1 quiere aprender.
douchebag: ooh nice
mircea_popescu: !!up Tea_
deedbot: Tea_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: didn't manage ?
mircea_popescu: there you go.
mircea_popescu: you're better rated than douchebag, he can't self voice lmao
mircea_popescu: !!up Amygifl
Tea_: Has visitado los EUA ya?
deedbot: Amygifl voiced for 30 minutes.
Tea_: bueno!
mircea_popescu: vivi en mass por casi un ano, algo asi. despues me voy en viaje por toda la costa oeste, hasta nuevo laredo
mircea_popescu: y despues, mexico tambien.
mircea_popescu: !!up Amygirl
deedbot: Amygirl voiced for 30 minutes.
Amygirl: I get paid for my tits ?
mircea_popescu: lol. sure. you posted them online before Amygirl ?
Amygirl: and no I haven’t c:
mircea_popescu: mkay. 63627c78 is your magic titcode.
deedbot: DAD9419071F19D1127A5D6722CA450696461A7E9 registered as Amygirl.
Tea_: y españa has visitado tambien?
mircea_popescu: si, espana tambien.
Tea_: me encanta espana <3
mircea_popescu: que viste, madrid ?
Tea_: si, madrid, leon, y barcelona
Tea_: Zaragoza tambien
mircea_popescu: y que te gusto mas ?
Tea_: Pero, quiero visitar otra vez barceolna
mircea_popescu shudders at the thought of what'll happen when mod6 wakes up!!
mircea_popescu: !!up Amygirl
deedbot: Amygirl voiced for 30 minutes.
Amygirl: Sorry I disconnected
mod6: I'm quite pleased.
Amygirl: Is the picture alright ?
mircea_popescu: Amygirl not really ; but i'll let you get away with it because nobody was quick enough an' as a compliment to douchebag.
mircea_popescu thinks a certain someone will have an aneurism when they see this wonder.
mircea_popescu: !!pay Amygirl 0.02
Amygirl: Thank you!!❤️
mircea_popescu: !!key douchebag
Amygirl: !!balance
Amygirl: !!withdraw 0.02 1MZWuxWZaDLEkWdDXT9Q59H5UE9DQduHmL
Amygirl: !!v 4A336C3C6A6D7D6CF6342B478ADDAD34C9A88A20C584BE3FD2E0D817C0995060
mod6: mircea_popescu: Quite a parade! Who's next?
mircea_popescu: i can scarcely guess.
mod6: Tit parade is never a waste of time. :]
Amygirl: Thank you guys❤️
mod6: douchebag: you're keeping your volume down, bringing the girls. good work!
mircea_popescu shall bbl.
mod6: Also, these girls, I'd speculate have been able to register and do the task way above par. Good job guiding them through.
douchebag: Yeah, I'm glad they could figure it out haha
mod6: werd, typically that part is a struggle. not today, very nice.
douchebag: This made me the most popular person in the discord server - women messaging telling me they want to show their tits haha
mod6: I bet haha.
emily22: It's late, so I'm getting off. Enjoy the tits <3
mod6: night emily22
mod6: douchebag: did building trb go alright for ya?
douchebag: let me check on that actually
douchebag: gotta install the deps
mod6: ah, well, you should just be able to drop them into the right directory. are you doing the OFFLINE build?
douchebag: I'm doing online
mod6: (the ONLINE build does this for you)
mod6: ah ok.
douchebag: i get to the very last step
douchebag: 'recipie for target deps failed'
mod6: huh.
douchebag: that's the error it threw
mod6: looking, just a sec
ave1: !~later tell mircea_popescu re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
ave1: !Qlater tell mircea_popescu re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
lobbesbot: ave1: The operation succeeded.
mod6: douchebag: at the top of the howto document, it lists all of the pre-reqs you need before the build. did you ensure that you have them all?
douchebag: I thought I did I might have missed one though
douchebag: I'll get it taken care of - it's no big deal
mod6: well, im about to crash out. but let's tackle it tomorrow, we'll start fresh. no worries.
mod6: ni ni
douchebag: Sounds good!
ave1: re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790159, grpbuild has a system to look for all ada's and gcc in the path and select one. To check te selected gcc you can do "gprbuild -v".
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:41 phf: hmm, i wonder if adacore's gprbuild uses its own gcc or global one
ave1: Also see how the selection goes do: gprconfig --show-targets -v
ave1: And even more, you can let gprconfig make a config file (run it without any arguments) and gprbuild will then use the selected compilers.
ave1: Note that if you use the musl c library, you will only get the parts from the C library you actually use in your binary. (this is not true for gnu C library)
ave1: The parts you need on from the C library on linux are the initialization (move the commandline arguments and environment variables from locations prepared by the linux kernel to those needed in C) the functions called in your code and the finalization.
ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
ave1: I was looking into a process of getting GNU C to produce small static binaries, but put it on the back burner after reading through the code.
ave1: Sorry, GNU C library
spyked: in less titillating news: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790190 <-- just did --> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ewwIL/?raw=true the flow looks okay now; problem is that my patch is a separate leaf, so I can't press it and say, vtools-vpatch, in the same path. one (not very clean) palliative would be to manually verify and apply the patch after pressing.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 21:55 spyked bbl, will replicate the output in the morning
spyked: anyway, I understand why this happens (it wouldn't make sense to press e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc and http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools-vpatch in the same path), but thought I'd report it.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790159 <-- I checked on my system using ave1's instructions and it indeed uses adacore's gcc. however: gcc uses its collect2 utility for linking (for some link-time optimization stuff -- check using gcc -v source.c), which in turn uses the *system* ld, i.e. /usr/bin/ld. that's why there's a difference in the link-time behaviour
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:41 phf: hmm, i wonder if adacore's gprbuild uses its own gcc or global one
spyked: phf's ld might add an "static" to "inline"; or not, not sure; can verify by objdump'ing vdiff and seeing if there appear multiple (with local linkage) definitions of xnmalloc in the same file.
spyked: *an implicit
spyked: ^ wait, this doesn't make sense. ld shouldn't know about "static" and "inline", but it might make different assumptions about the linkage nevertheless. I tested using ld 2.30 (debian) and ld 2.28 (gentoo) and got the same link errors.
spyked: anyway, I suspect all systems relying on shared libraries are stuck using the system-provided ld, regardless of the gcc version. if anything, because of the insane gcc defaults (glibc, dynamic symbols etc.) on newer distro versions.
shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321578 <<< To save you time and crayons, i grepped my logs for past 2 yrs. Out of 38 noobs for which I have logs, 31 of these did not ensure correct gcc + gpg version combo before build.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:53 mod6: douchebag: at the top of the howto document, it lists all of the pre-reqs you need before the build. did you ensure that you have them all?
shinohai: Nice tits in log too, great way to start day.
mircea_popescu: aaah, good mornings
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 6 hours and 18 minutes ago: <ave1> re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
mircea_popescu: ave1 i figured.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321550 << did they figure out or rather you just made keys for them yourself and just told them "say so and so" ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:44 douchebag: Yeah, I'm glad they could figure it out haha
douchebag: they were all windows users so I just had em use gpg4win or whatever to make the process as straightforward as possible. Couldn't imagine it being as easy telling them to use gpg CLI
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm impressed.
douchebag: All the druggies who use silkroad boast about gpg4win so it can't be too hard haha
mircea_popescu: from experience (over a few dozen cases to date or so) it takes the average girl about a degree of magnitude more time, effort and misfires than yours managed.
mircea_popescu: i'd say you're visibly talented.
douchebag: It helps being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded
mircea_popescu: you should see how much being able to whip them when they're retarded helps.
douchebag: You sure are into that kinky shit eh?
mircea_popescu: but yes, i do believe you have the exact counter to my http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#320898 comment lel
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
mircea_popescu: douchebag no, because kinky connotes it's this side dish, condiment, whatever. whereas with me it's foundational.
douchebag: Ahh I see, must make things a hell of a lot more interesting
mircea_popescu: let's use the pieces on the table : you just were 10x more effective than historical record because "being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
mircea_popescu: it's a delight.
douchebag: hahaha
mircea_popescu: the drawback however is that i ~absolutely~ can not be retarded. not even a little bit.
shinohai: Hard level: You must convince btcvixen to let you snort a line of cocaine from it's cock.
douchebag: Maybe if there wasn't any cock involved
mircea_popescu: anyway, whadda ya think mod6 , can we get him back to positive rating ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321590 << so basically the way i'm interpreting what you're saying is, "there's no practical way to have no c library on a c system ; but if you want just the init and end that can be done quite minimalistically and forgetaboutit."
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:15 ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321594 << what does this mean, "my patch is a separate leaf" ?!
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:39 spyked: in less titillating news: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790190 <-- just did --> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ewwIL/?raw=true the flow looks okay now; problem is that my patch is a separate leaf, so I can't press it and say, vtools-vpatch, in the same path. one (not very clean) palliative would be to manually verify and apply the patch after pressing.
spyked: mircea_popescu, taking the graph in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools <-- the patch at http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790176 is a descendant of vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc, but since it has no direct relation to, say vdiff_keccak (there are no changes from the former to the latter), it will lie on a separate branch starting from vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc. at least that's what the output from
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 21:08 spyked: my v-fu really leaves to be desired. so: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790147 <-- patch: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/patches/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch and seal: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/seals/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch.spyked.sig --> so I based those on vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc (parent of vdiff_keccak in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools ) and while the patch verifies, it doesn't show up in my
mircea_popescu: yeah this is that whole histfile thing that somehow never got implemented.
mircea_popescu: is this deliberate or oversight phf ?
asciilifeform: !!unrate douchebag
asciilifeform: !!v 265B170DB6417E5EA402DC1315C557BEC9E12A17561A58CC477455B63AE96E9D
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated douchebag.
spyked: the way I understood it from reading v.pl, the edges in teh graph are established based on changes introduced by each hunk in the nodes (the patches). so since there are no patches changing the files in vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch, it's a leaf (and this, if I understand correctly, is intrinsic to the current design of v).
mircea_popescu: spyked yes ; there's ongoing discussion re this.
spyked has read it, but tbh, it took this particular example to finally understand the issue
mircea_popescu: i think this is kinda why the discussion's been so... dezlinata. people who ran into it vs people who mostly made their own disciplined trees and therefore hadn't.
mircea_popescu: (dezlinata = ro, literally "unwoolened", intensively something of the uneven consistency of clouds, or scattered about wool.)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyway, whadda ya think mod6 , can we get him back to positive rating ? << aha, let's try this again.
BingoBoingo: !!rate douchebag 1 WIP, has some hustle willing to creatively leverage some toilets
BingoBoingo: !!v 800E1C0DB01F742DDEAE80371C37E5442AEAED7437333054EA90E78B5E64D138
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated douchebag 1 << WIP, has some hustle willing to creatively leverage some toilets
mircea_popescu: what's a wip
BingoBoingo: Work In Progress
BingoBoingo: And the levering toilets comment is related to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790892 where he's got the willingness to plumber around
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:32 mircea_popescu: let's use the pieces on the table : you just were 10x more effective than historical record because "being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
mod6: ave1: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/i9ctn/?raw=true << here are those commands, let me know if you want me to run others.
trinque: !!v 867C9E629EE19101DF6C556A6F34D598339C0DD85E9C07F0ACD6FE9F73CF6330
deedbot: trinque rated douchebag 1 << brought a surfeit of tits
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me actually, this is a very... classical model of tribal organization, huh. there's a boy's hut in the village where people work magic an' teh young girls "hi, i came to show you my tits".
mircea_popescu: bwahahah
mircea_popescu: wasn't that a great one lmao.
mod6: pretty much, best announcement ever.
mircea_popescu: omfg oglaf moved to https bs ?!
mircea_popescu: this rustles my jimmies immensely.
mod6: trinque: hey, are you paying douchebag to figure out trb on his own? or does me helping him violate what he agreed to?
trinque: what, no I'm not paying him to do it
mod6: ah, ok just "tasks" or whatnot. got it.
mod6: just checking, didn't wanna step on your toes :]
trinque: nah, no problemo
mircea_popescu: wait, was this "i'll bet you x you can't do y ; your side is indentured servitude" sorta structure ?
trinque: mmmhm
mircea_popescu: gambling AND slavery ? oh the pantsuit are gonna love ya
trinque is a bad bad man.
ben_vulpes: so my landlord comes over the other day, nominally to talk about installing the fence that was a condition of my renting the place, "hey i might liquidate this place within the year, do you want it? i'll credit rent paid so far to the down payment"
ben_vulpes: i was planning to live here for another three years so i might just get the place so's i can avoid having to go through the hell of another rental search. also it's a rather spiffy haus
ben_vulpes: sitting in the scales on the other side is "but mom i don't need another boat anchor holding me stateside"
lobbes: Hey, no reason it needs to anchor you. Can 'own' properties around globe neh?
lobbes just recently 'bought' 'own' house. Mainly for the lower (and fixed!) monthly expense (i.e. monthly mortgage payment ended cheaper than my previous rent, and will never increase (rents here always tend to go up)). Plus waaay more space than previous rented space
lobbes: Still, theoretically nothing stopping me from one day heading to e.g. BingoBoingostan and leaving house sitting there
ben_vulpes: lobbes: sure, sure
BingoBoingo: lobbes: If you don't need transit grade internet Chile is an option.
lobbes: I've been slowly eyeballing Austria mainly because I enjoy what little I've learned of Deutsch (and actual Germany screams "pantsuit" based on what I've read), but it is -essentially- still in natoreich (and I dislike cold climes). Seems like all roads eventually lead to a LATAM of some sort.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes buying real estate in the reich without an army ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hue, buying paper that can be sold to other chumps
mircea_popescu: if the scam holds.
mircea_popescu: !#s hyip
ben_vulpes: i'm not laboring under the delusion that i'd actually own the thing
asciilifeform: trying to 'outsmart the casino' tends to end in tears, ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: but, that said, as long as he's evaluated it and it came out green, more power to him.
BingoBoingo: lobbes: More Germans I have talked to here are thinking Hungary than Austria as places for their parents to retire.
asciilifeform: it is almost impossible to not seem to 'come out green' on paper when buying into usa real estate racket. asciilifeform for example pays ~2x for his hut than mortgage for same item costs, because of tax regime.
mircea_popescu: lobbes austria is in the wrong. you buy cheap young hussies generally. romania-czech-slovakia-slovenia-serbia etc, the periphery of the empire. not austria (or hungary), the fucking center of it
asciilifeform: ( problem is what tends to happen in the heads of people who buy in. as further discussed in old thread on ben_vulpes's www, http://cascadianhacker.com/perceived-vs-actual-barriers-to-homeownership-for-young-adults/comment-page-1#comment-174 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except where he's married with kids already.
asciilifeform: that's not quite same as being a tree tho. not entirely.
mircea_popescu: depends if one's a tree, i guess. sure as fuck gypsies have no problem tying the 5yo daughters to pull the cart in line with the goats, as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2010/nuditatea-la-copii-si-sugari/#selection-41.0-45.498
mircea_popescu: anyway, his position is bolstered by the fact that from the looks of things, the empire is going to fight to the last to defend the re racket, much like body will keep liver going if it's the last thing it does.
ben_vulpes: that iiis the bet.
asciilifeform: if it's the i-can-afford-to-loose type of bet, nuffin wrong with it
mircea_popescu: ok, this is a gem of a lulz item the likes of which one can only encounter on the web.
mircea_popescu: so : in order to prevent walking their db, fetlife DID NOT, ~~~STILL~~~ implement the obviously correct method described for free by moi, back in http://trilema.com/2015/fetlife-the-meat-market/#comment-112222
mircea_popescu: instead, they have a "mysterious" "security" blabla, which does things like https://vircotto.com/fetlife-locked-my-account-for-four-days-heres-what-i-learned.html
mircea_popescu: there's, of course, nothing mysterious about it : it counts pageloads and 404 hits. for the walker this later point is of course the concern, you have to carefully avoid getting too many 404s per interval.
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, and this is the gem : their "lock out" looks to the script like this : <html><body>You are being <a href="https://fetlife.com/locked_out?user_id=????????">redirected</a>.</body></html>
mircea_popescu: now, obviously the browser auto-follows that and gets the chimp locked. however curl does not, and consequently... THE LOCKING EXPIRES. in less than a day.
mircea_popescu: fucking imagine this imbecile of a "software engineer" from canada, who implements security via a php script the victim has to load for it to catch.
mircea_popescu: can you beat that ?
BingoBoingo: That would be tough.
BingoBoingo: Creativity metastisized into cancer
mircea_popescu: john baku belongs working for the usg, he's just about dumb enough.
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , what's the last ver of php that worx with mp's wp ?
asciilifeform: looks like 7.1 -- got shitgnomated, lost mysql support
mircea_popescu: i have nfi tbh. i never upgraded it.
mircea_popescu: PHP 5.5.30 (cli) (built: Dec 22 2015 01:39:33) works tho
mircea_popescu: and obviously 2009 vintage also works. so in between those
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/boeing-production-hit-by-ransomware-using-usg-nsa-exploits/ << Qntra - Boeing Production Hit By Ransomware Using USG.NSA Exploits
asciilifeform: RunMoarWinblowz(tm)
mircea_popescu: where's their "intellectual property" nao ?
BingoBoingo: Maybe they already hired Baku?
mircea_popescu: that was suuuch a smart gambit...
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790899, I'm saying use the musl C library for the "no C library on a C machine", if you do all the things it does yourself, you get the same kind of code. For example, you could do this all in ADA but you'll still have to shuffle pointers around and get this "unsafe" but it's written in Ada code.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:43 mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321590 << so basically the way i'm interpreting what you're saying is, "there's no practical way to have no c library on a c system ; but if you want just the init and end that can be done quite minimalistically and forgetaboutit."
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:15 ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
ave1: Cool the loggers are fighting
ave1: So you've written that part in Ada but it's more clumsy as it would have been in C (because your shuffling around with C arrays)
ave1: And if you want to do this for a C program, you will end up with much the same code as MUSL.
ave1: So as long as the MUSL C library development stays sane, I would say follow it.
mircea_popescu: ave1 no, it's intended, gets deeper more context in.
ave1: now I'll have to rescan the logs, never noticed it so far
mircea_popescu: anyway, let's restate : "since you're stuck with a c library anyway as long as you're on c-machine, at the very least to do init and end ; and since musl is not that terrible and only links what you use anyway ; just use it and be done with the headache -- the alternative is bloating ada with nonsense"
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 15:22 mod6: ave1: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/i9ctn/?raw=true << here are those commands, let me know if you want me to run others.
asciilifeform: it is pointedly untrue that 'stuck with libc on c machine' . can implement all the sane basic functionality using SYSCALL ( the kernel api that's at the bottom of every libc ) and nowhere is it written that you have to be retarded and e.g. pointer-arithmetize or heapize while doing so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's where i was headed
mircea_popescu: could just have a mini-init.ada
ave1: hmm, it seems to me the whole init stuf does not use syscall, but instead expects linux to have provided pointers at specific places (for argv and freinds)
asciilifeform: aaha, just like on embedded chips.
asciilifeform: ( in re mini-init...)
mircea_popescu: ave1 but it could use syscall.
asciilifeform: argc, argv, environment, PATH, etc is all mapped into process's address space
asciilifeform: can read it like you read anyffing else in yer addr space
ave1: Well now I have to get back and study that part
ave1: go back
mod6: ave1: lol, sorry man. lemme re-do that for ya.
mircea_popescu: this has actually been a most productive examination.
ave1: I'll try it the coming weeks, I have a minimal ada anyway
mod6: there you go ave1 ^
mod6: My apologies.
asciilifeform: ave1 i have for you an example, standby:
asciilifeform: ave1: illustrated is the use of stack frame to get cmdline args; and the use of raw SYSCALL to , e.g., get file size, open it, mmap over it, then dump its contents to stdout, then close, quit
asciilifeform: commented out in the end is 100% of what you need for a heaptron : the sbrk mechanism mentioned by phf
asciilifeform: observe! in the makefile, that there is NO linkage with libc
asciilifeform: or with anyffing else
mircea_popescu: holy fuck i think we just published the first version of tmsr-kernel
asciilifeform: on my machine this builds a 1935 byte (unstripped) elf, or 1080 byte stripped
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moar of a 'libc' then kernel
asciilifeform: ( naked x86-64 kernel, iirc i already posted here a coupla yrs ago )
asciilifeform: the thing with the page table init et
asciilifeform: ^ all readers invited to try the demo ^
asciilifeform: it is well-commented, imho self-explanatory.
asciilifeform: 'make dis' will produce an objdump
mircea_popescu: that was more of an... extended bootloader ? but anyways, the lines get blurry
asciilifeform: oh i forgot sumthing important :
asciilifeform: 'make debug' , given that 'turd.bin' input file exists, will print all machine instructions executed by the program.
asciilifeform: ( supposing you have a working gdb, apparently there exist boxes without gdb... )
mod6: aha
asciilifeform: err, demo.gdb
asciilifeform: anyway ave1 et al plox to try an' see.
asciilifeform wrote this lesson a long time ago
ave1: asciilifeform: thx will try! never went this deep before
asciilifeform: ( my turd had 'hello world!' in it )
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, news from india : tata came up with a $2500 car. "nano". it has... no 0-60, because it goes 45 at the most.
mircea_popescu: belt transmission
BingoBoingo: lol, haven't seen any of those here yet but I imagine they are coming
BingoBoingo: The 900 USD new 100 to 125 cc chinese polleritas here are largely the same deal
ben_vulpes: perfect for the traffic-choked favela
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/brexit-more-than-300000-eu-domains-with-british-registrants-to-be-garbage-collected/ << Qntra - Brexit: More Than 300,000 .eu Domains With British Registrants To Be Garbage Collected
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Or for low margin delivery businesses
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes they have these favela-like things here ("hatillo 1 through hatillo 30 or some shit). you couldn't believe what traffic jams they create.
mircea_popescu: item is literally a traffic jam in itself, perpetual, unyielding, eternal.
mircea_popescu: basically road rings connected to road stems, like a fungus.
mircea_popescu: doods living there own (well, "own") $1-5000 houses they made themselves, generally by buying planks/metal/whatever and hooking it up with the cousins. universally one level, and then 2-5 cars, more or less broken down, worth another 2-5k
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1791023, mod6, did you run gprbuild -v in the directory containing vdiff.gpr, it did not seem to pick it up (it does with my local gprbuild, which has same version etc as yours).? It should show the absolute path to the gcc that is used during the build.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 18:57 mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VJPPi/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: > an autistic Romanian named Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu: i suspect by now "autistic" is the equivalent of the 1800s "friend". "one of ours" as opposed to "one of theirs"
mircea_popescu: quakers forever they shall be!
douchebag: mircea_popescu: You ready to see some more tits? I've had a number of women who were inquring about the offer
mod6: holy netsplit.
mircea_popescu: douchebag sure.
douchebag: Sounds good, I'll let them know
mod6: Go BTC, Go!
trinque: ah good, I didn't have nearly enough yet.
ben_vulpes: !~ticker --market all
mircea_popescu: !!up Coco1997
deedbot: Coco1997 voiced for 30 minutes.
Coco1997: hey im here to show you my tits
mod6: Hi, great intro.
mircea_popescu: Coco1997 i don't image you have links to previous work ?
mircea_popescu: mkay. 68a7b542 is your magic code.
mircea_popescu: douchebag you know, this abundance of girls willing to do it but who've not ever done it before suggests to me the brave new world of pantsuit is really very economically inefficient.
mircea_popescu: for all the "everything is connected" and "knowledge at fingertips" blather, the marginal utility of information seems rather iron age.
douchebag: Eh, a lot of these girls aren't really into the whole posting pics online and stuff, but when money is involved they change their mind lol
douchebag: Why didn't she get registered
mircea_popescu: use http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BXh21/?raw=true << type of links. those are known to work.
mircea_popescu: who the hell knows what extra crap mixtape.moe rando site adds to the mix
deedbot: E97AF6B83367C3366411D023E39F9BF9FC795E38 registered as Coco1997.
mod6: So here I am writing up the SoBA, looking for a log reference to where either I or ben_vulpes said that only *one* of The Foundation's Two (newly bought servers for Pizarro racking) made it down there.
mod6: Maybe it was never mentioned in here? Which seems strange, but it's been a wild month.
mod6: So the one server was left behind at the airport to cut-weight.
mod6: The current thinking is that this server still here will be racked locally to make use of it; as soon as we have pricing, and maybe a less item of less value shipped successfully, we'll have this one couriered down to Pizarro.
mod6: *an item of less value shipped successfully first,
mircea_popescu: what, you lost one in transit ?!
mircea_popescu: mod6 but do you still have the item then ?
ben_vulpes: nono, it is safely right here.
mod6: It wasn't lost in transit, when ben_vulpes was at the airport, he had his wife come and pick it up from there to 'cut-weight'. It's safe in his care.
mircea_popescu: aite, so then : asciilifeform had a spare slot from what i understand, when he leaves in a coupla weeks he can haul it over for you. i'll even cover the cost on nsa's budget as a donatrion to the foundation.
mircea_popescu: have the item therre in time though. no bs.
mod6: As I understood it most recently, he was at max weight already.
mod6: asciilifeform: ^ ?
mircea_popescu: ah was he ? then no dice.
mircea_popescu: i may be behind a day or so
mod6: I could be wrong too.
mod6: !!up Coco1997
deedbot: Coco1997 voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT
Coco1997: sorry bout the wait
Coco1997: uploading in a sec
Coco1997: im around a bunch of drunk people
ben_vulpes: pretty sure the remaining slot was booked for s.mg
trinque: !!v E33C11D98E16244AE8FDEFB563456A7B4AC8FB8B7D26FB727E6D8BCB8420D708
deedbot: trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 2
trinque: !!v 45DEDCC7D5420227D2E969FDF356653821B1F33D93E56A5F2F7930C89A615C8E
deedbot: trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 3
asciilifeform: not max weight, theoretically copa will eat 2 100pounders, but at some cost ( 200 'overweight' each, plus 150 'extra' for the 2nd )
asciilifeform: usd, thaf is
asciilifeform: i was gonna fill the slot with pcengines, arm boxen, etc if no one wants to fill with adult box.
trinque: ben_vulpes: can I still get that cost breakdown for courier service? maybe I want to try keistering something else down to bbstan at a later date.
mircea_popescu: lol what are you doing around a bunch of drunk people Coco1997
asciilifeform: oh btw for anyone not tuned in #p , an ipkvm is also going
asciilifeform: and magicwand for fg ( see thread )
trinque still has two purchased fg that need bolted in
Coco1997: its a family party my whole fam is drunk
trinque: 319899 blox on my pizarro node
mircea_popescu: sounds like a party alright
asciilifeform: trinque: gpggram at your convenience the mobo type, so i go with the right cabling
trinque: roger
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc ben_vulpes posted a cost postmortem ( recall tho that he 'won' the customs lottery, cost double )
douchebag: that's a sorry excuse for tits
douchebag: fucking dumb bitch
douchebag: Coco1997: Get the fuck out of here
douchebag: with that bullshit
asciilifeform: bahahaha this is first of this kind iirc
douchebag: Jesus christ...
asciilifeform: not the tits, the failure to use a mirror to write the magicstring
mircea_popescu: i dunno why i keep getting cheap-ass webcam screenshots.
mircea_popescu: i thought the whole point of "smart"phones was the camera.
douchebag: i think it's one of them cheap phones mexicans have
mircea_popescu: but w/e, "lowest effort" right.
asciilifeform: front camera is usually shit
douchebag: I'm just wondering how that sorry execuse for a tit pic took a whole fucking hour
mircea_popescu feels bad for the girl
mircea_popescu: but, truth be told, the reason i keep asking about previous work is precisely this. aaanyways.
douchebag: I tell these women, when they get the code to have the photos ready within 5 minutes
douchebag: and then they want to fix their hair, go talk to their family, take a billion years to write a couple letters
douchebag: Too bad I don't have a bullwhip like mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: douchebag you know, for all the pretense the us is one of the few remaining orcistans where not everyone has a room to themselves.
ben_vulpes: holy hell, the previous two you brought in 'did their hair'?
ben_vulpes: here i was thinking, "hm i wonder when the girls will actually start dolling up"
ben_vulpes: alt-right really with the majestic adherence to gender roles
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i think alt-right is more a continuation of "straightedge" 90s fashion than any kind of 1950s wasplandia.
mircea_popescu: and that was technically an offshot of punk. so...
ben_vulpes: huh i don't see the lineage from straightedgin; but my only brushes with it were kids who thought they needed something to differentiate themselves from oh okay now i see
mircea_popescu: (for the connoisseur : the only noteworthy, but indeed noteworthy for the insane lulz, part of this "straightedge" is how early usian starry-eyed communism had its EXACT equivalent of the... wtf was the soviet name for the anti-nep youths that didn't wash ? same group that did the great leap forward in china ?)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes consider the relationship to "promiscuity" ; and the notions of male-regulation of copulation rate. it's one of the best standards to sort "mass movements", much like the two metal bars slowly growing apart are the best standard to sort eggs.
ben_vulpes: and in "Make Oil, Great Again" news, apparently the US Strategic Petroleum Reserves are thick with hydrogen sulfide to the tune of 600ppm in the RDS sale, and 9000 ppm in the sale to china.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is a necessary problem of "unpumped tanks". sulphur compounds sort themselves to the bottom.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't understand the point in re male regulation of the copulation rate
mircea_popescu: when's the last time you saw a pantsuit worry outloud about how much sex a woman's been having ?
mod6: +
mircea_popescu: sex regulation is the first and fundamental point of even having a society in the first place, you understand this ? because a guy can maybe do a woman for an hour a day or such, but a gal can do all the men that walk in the door, and then some. it's mismatched, by nature.
mircea_popescu: and there's only two available fixes : either compete, or repress. there's nothing else, but these and mixes.
mircea_popescu: the particular sort of nut that proposes that men needn't compete and women must repress is always and everywhere the same, whether it calls itself "young communists" or "students" or "Straightedge" or "alt-right", there can not be a difference once that unity is given.
ben_vulpes: ah, it snaps into focus
mircea_popescu: the "feminist" aka, "reverse-alt-right" doesn't even sort in a different box, either. they're the exact sorty of nut, precisely in the manner of how the guy who always speaks the truth and the guy who always speaks the opposite of truth aren't DIFFERENT.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, what would the other 2 holes of the 2x2 matrix look like , and has anyone filled'em ?
mircea_popescu: and this is, incidentally, why i don't for a second believe "alt-right" is anything but alt-socialism ; or why i never looked with friendly eyes upon say modlbug.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "decadent bourgeoisie" is both must compete. you know, like late roman / late greeks / late manchuku / etc.
mircea_popescu: and "peasant civilisation" as in mirvniki or the wooden civilisation that covered the hills of transylvania as late as the 1800s is "both must repress"
asciilifeform: maekssense.
ben_vulpes: trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/xmnNW/?raw=true i can provide dates and conversion rates if you really feel like raking me over the coals
mircea_popescu: anyway. classification is the first and remains the foremost job of the scholar ; the cornersone of all understanding. its tools are the paramount tools of knowledge.
trinque: ben_vulpes: lol coals. I paid the damned thing before I even saw.
ben_vulpes: i know i know
trinque: it's all good, just curious about how it all went
ben_vulpes: i am pantsuit, see me signal
mircea_popescu: no, it's a worthy exercise, let him write reports to understand wtf he's doing even.
mircea_popescu: it saved imperialism from collapse into africanism ; it'll do us a spot of good too. write letters home.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Hey I was wondering, I know a shit ton of prostitutes - do I get 0.02 in exchange for their tit pics?
mircea_popescu: as long as they jump through the hoops, they get the cents.
mircea_popescu: why, have you been sweet talking the girls into giving out your btc addresses ?
douchebag: Nah those are just discord whores looking to make cash
douchebag: but I could easily round up a couple prostitutes and have em write on their tits
mircea_popescu: lol, is it actually open to arbitrage, ie hire hooker for a bitcent, write on her tits, make two bitcents ?
douchebag: throw em a $40 bag of heroin and tell em fuck off
mircea_popescu: by all means.
asciilifeform: douchebag: can you shed light on popularity of 'discord' item ?
mircea_popescu: the whole point of the exercise is to bring the light of the new world to the masses.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform alt-skype. exact same thing, too, which is lulzy.
asciilifeform: yea as far as naked eye can tell, same thing
mircea_popescu: douchebag but he has a point, there's a large pile of discord sluts / servers dedicated to them. can just as well raid those.
asciilifeform: was curious re why 'alt'
douchebag: I see, I guess I'll just try to find a prositiute who knows how use a computer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand how the usg uroborus goes ? constant eating its own tail : 1. have "idea" ; 2. get "finance" for idea ; 3. implement "idea" to "grow big" because "monetize later" ; 4. someone else has "same idea" does it cheaper ; 5. collects finance to "grow big" because "money later" and so on
mircea_popescu: alt because works on more platforms and costs less and so on.
mircea_popescu: basically, didn't ahve the time for the pantsuit to work it into idiocy, which is how things die there, "we added a code of conduct".
mircea_popescu: they keep "adding improvements", various http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321892 epycicles.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 17:23 mircea_popescu: so : in order to prevent walking their db, fetlife DID NOT, ~~~STILL~~~ implement the obviously correct method described for free by moi, back in http://trilema.com/2015/fetlife-the-meat-market/#comment-112222
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