ben_vulpes: > pragma Pure
ben_vulpes: slowly coming around to this ada thing
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: W_ZeroP is pretty nifty; this is a the great and legible approach to numulating with computers i've been missing my whole life
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 15011.78, vol: 14964.17889650 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14936.0, vol: 69368.82029594 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 15100.2, vol: 3178.19548484 | Volume-weighted last average: 14954.9215241
BingoBoingo: In other news, last night crowd was primarily Brazilians in town for the Cannabis expo
mircea_popescu: in other you-can't-imagine-what-decivilization-is : abs wheel sensors here, $130. each. in sanelands, $30, a set of 4.
mircea_popescu: if you're wondering WHY the fuck would anyone buy singles, your mind is working correctly and you're on the way to explaining the mystery : imbecile orcmind DOES NOT PROVISION! DOES NOT MAINTENANCE! and generally has a very peculiar relartionship with the future, as discussed eg in http://trilema.com/2017/this-blog-is-now-about-bticino-and-other-coinsiderations/#footnote_0_75919 ; or http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735612
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 20:25 mircea_popescu: cuz these people WILL NOT FIX, anything, ever, until it literally breaks.
mircea_popescu: or so on.
mircea_popescu: so basically : they do not keep supplies. latino mind does not understand there's something shameful in having shop of X, not having X.y item in stock.
mircea_popescu: consequently, because no demand, because no management, because no understanding whatsoever of what this capitalist world is or how it works, THEREFORE it makes ~~~perfect economic sense~~~ for part to cost 4x 4x what it costs among smarter people.
mircea_popescu: THIS is what end-of-civilisation means : as you include more and more brownies and "their values" into society, you exclude more and more sense and welfare from the economy.
asciilifeform: 'sensor is what we dunhave at the sensor shop!1'
mircea_popescu: ikr
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was how usa croaked
asciilifeform: !#s neutron absorbers
a111: 1 result for "neutron absorbers", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=neutron%20absorbers
mircea_popescu: aha.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 15:58 asciilifeform: i like to call people who by their very presence make various constructive activities impossible, 'neutron absorbers'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749053 << yer in for a treat, ben_vulpes , whole thing is made of this
a111: Logged on 2017-12-09 07:44 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: W_ZeroP is pretty nifty; this is a the great and legible approach to numulating with computers i've been missing my whole life
mircea_popescu: i gathered :)
asciilifeform: of course W_ZeroP only works the way it does because compilers are sad , in turn because people were idiots in 1970s and did not shoot the wreckers who so much as suggested to call a thing without overlow and zero flags, a cpu
asciilifeform: *overflow
asciilifeform: btw here's a phunphakt for ben_vulpes : ffa cannot be used as-is on ppc. ibm in infinite whizzdom made their mul instruction nonconstanttime.
asciilifeform: it shortcuts on zeros.
asciilifeform: if you must run on ppc, yer basecase (word x word) multer has to be 'egyptian'.
asciilifeform: and i'ma have to write a detector for this kind of idiocy, because anything at all can be expected from intel et al.
asciilifeform: for mul, pretty simple, time the interval needed for e.g. million 0x0 mulls vs million maxint x maxint ( and a few other patterns )
mircea_popescu: !!up BigTexasBingo
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
BigTexasBingo: Holy fuck do Brazilians smoke fuck tons of ganja
BigTexasBingo has for the near term readopted cigarettes for social cover
BigTexasBingo may be learning more Portugues atm than Spanish.
BigTexasBingo: Sobriety still intact. Still only met un gringa, though have now encountered a Brazilian born in Nueva York
mircea_popescu: good for you.
BigTexasBingo: Necessito encuentrar un nuevo lavador por mi ropa. Current one hasn't been attended since I dropped off mi ropa. But only been by twice.
asciilifeform: ->encontrar ?
BigTexasBingo: Find
asciilifeform: yes
asciilifeform: but mutilated. or is this what the portuguese do.
asciilifeform grammarschool nitpicking
BigTexasBingo: It is the effect of my spanish immersion being invaded by the Brazillians and their slow, incredibly understandable speech.
BigTexasBingo: Weather here still muy bueno.
BigTexasBingo: And adjusting to hostel life
BigTexasBingo: Cowork life is very accommodating
asciilifeform: what exactly is a 'cowork'
BigTexasBingo: It is an office building floor whereI rent desk, get coffee and language practice, and fiscal address to give the lawyer
asciilifeform: aa neato
asciilifeform: iirc phf had one of these in usa
BigTexasBingo: Monthly cost is in TBI statement
BigTexasBingo: Have access 24/7 to space
BigTexasBingo: Locking storage fwiw
BigTexasBingo: And rooftop lounge area for socializing and phone calls
BigTexasBingo: Brb, adventure resumes
asciilifeform: habitable outdoors must be pretty great.
BingoBoingo: It is indeed, the hours from doce y media through Cuartena y media can be rather hot, but milder than in the homeland
BingoBoingo: !!up _whitelogger
deedbot: _whitelogger voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13650.0, vol: 13035.50063927 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13632.0, vol: 64530.65458759 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14066.7, vol: 3056.60516005 | Volume-weighted last average: 13651.3908676
BingoBoingo: Ah, the weekend dollar liquidity crunch
BingoBoingo: And in Argentines trying Navy Seal copypasta http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/8uKS0/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: No, they are not being considered for jack shit
phf: i think this is the happiest i've seen BingoBoingo ever
TomServo: heh FFA Chapter 2 is #1 on hacker news at the moment
TomServo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-08#1748919 << something like this? https://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/miniwebproxy
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 20:54 asciilifeform: at some point one will need a sort of proxy simply to read heathenwww on anything like human os/iron
a111: Logged on 2017-12-09 20:12 TomServo: heh FFA Chapter 2 is #1 on hacker news at the moment
asciilifeform: TomServo: the proxy thing sounds exactly like what i wanted. primo candidate for tmsrization.
TomServo: asciilifeform: it dropped by the time I thought to archive, https://archive.is/iYTlp
asciilifeform: ty TomServo , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15887475 has a little ball of lulz already, complete with card-carrying ninjashotgunner,
asciilifeform: !#s tptacek
a111: 17 results for "tptacek", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tptacek
TomServo: aha, I recognized the name, didn't recall the connection
asciilifeform: TomServo: see also e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523233 .
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:54 asciilifeform: all i solidly know of the tptacek fella is his reaction to phuctor.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 16:09 asciilifeform: beloved sage ideologue of the schneierism komyoonity, author of gems like https://archive.is/ootJi
asciilifeform: d00d is, as i understand, a 'pillar-of-the-komyoonity', i.e. full-time politruk.
asciilifeform: !!up clambodile
deedbot: clambodile voiced for 30 minutes.
clambodile: Thank you
asciilifeform: who might you be, clambodile ?
clambodile: I would describe myself as "a rando". I found this channel by chance, thought it seemed interesting.
asciilifeform: clambodile: consider reading log, at http://btcbase.org/log and elsewhere, and see chan subjline.
clambodile: asciilifeform: I thought I would lurk for now, if that's aight.
asciilifeform: clambodile: there is no substitute for reading the log, if you want to have even half a clue. but lurk all you like, nobody's stopping anyone from lurking.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749118 << this attracted such choice intellects last time...
a111: Logged on 2017-12-09 20:12 TomServo: heh FFA Chapter 2 is #1 on hacker news at the moment
asciilifeform: the q asciilifeform asks each time is 'wai'. it's not unlike learning that you've been featured on radio pyongyang
mircea_popescu: comes with teh territory.
asciilifeform: does it ? i dun recall last time e.g. trilema was '#1 on tardcombinator'
mircea_popescu: a year or so ?
asciilifeform: possibly i'm not using enuff repellentpowder, lol
asciilifeform: hm possibly yea
mircea_popescu: periodicity of the venues. yearly on that shitpit, monthly on that other shitpit etc.
asciilifeform these days finds it hard to muster the givingashit to even follow up on 'was linked from shitpit!11' much of the time
asciilifeform: this time took a peek after all, to see 'are the hannoboecks still on duty'. answ: they are.
mircea_popescu: not hard for them : not wanted anywhere else. what could they possible do all day ?
asciilifeform: dunno, how about they pick up rubbish with bare hands, like in india.
mircea_popescu: notrly.
trinque: I dunno; I would've taken the comparison to Terry Davis as a compliment!
trinque: patron saint of computing juche
mircea_popescu: it's funny how idiocy secretes narrative as its natural metabolism. algae make oxygen and estlatrds make loose stories.
mircea_popescu: lurking, eh.
asciilifeform fiddles with serverz. the noise -- abominable
mircea_popescu: !!up izabera
deedbot: izabera voiced for 30 minutes.
izabera: hi
mircea_popescu: how goes
izabera: all good, i don't actually need help or anything
mircea_popescu: cool
izabera: just found this chan on https://archive.is/CGQkR
asciilifeform: ohai izabera . are you a customer ?
izabera: nope
izabera: at least not yet
asciilifeform: izabera: the unit is very much still available.
izabera: how many did you actually sell?
asciilifeform: izabera: try asking dell how many servers he sold ?
mircea_popescu: not like it's not in the reports. hundred or so ?
izabera: not bad
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun think we ever published the exact #. although folx oughta be able to arithmetize.
mircea_popescu: within a degree of magnitude, sorta thing
asciilifeform: 100 was just the first batch ( which sold out last yr )
izabera: are the prices on this page https://archive.is/CNpWm up to date?
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: where was that danielpbarron amazion thing ?
asciilifeform: 0.0395 is the current.
izabera: still hella expensive
asciilifeform: izabera: i gotta bite : compared to what ?
izabera: a ps4
asciilifeform: someone sells an auditable trng called ps4 ?
asciilifeform: link ?
mircea_popescu: lol ps4
mircea_popescu: wouldja simmer down alfie!
asciilifeform: i mean it is also expensive compared to children's tricycle. but how about comparing similar items..
izabera: i mean you must be aware of btc's recent jump to >15k usd
mircea_popescu: izabera you can prolly pick up some in teh aftermarket ; either amazon or w/e.
mircea_popescu: was your last one ?
asciilifeform: !~later tell trinque is your musltronic gentoo recipe posted anywhere ?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !!up BingoBoingo
deedbot: BingoBoingo voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: err
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: oh hey notbad biznis danielpbarron has.
asciilifeform: possibly folx are less reluctant to part with fiatola than good old coinz
asciilifeform realized not long ago that he's quite ready to pay considerably 'more' in fiatola for a hypothetical item that is also-sold for btc , on account of the difficulty of replenishing the latter
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-10#1749209 << this is the key of the strategy.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-10 01:32 danielpbarron: i replaced the coin used to by mine at the time i bought them, so that works for me
mircea_popescu: !!up clambodile
deedbot: clambodile voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up clambodile
deedbot: clambodile voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: clambodile: please get an irc bouncer , or lurk by reading the logs. join/part spamola is not welcome
cruciform: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20171210/#52 they charged me import duty a fortnight after arrival!
scriba: Logged on 2017-12-10: [01:29:30] <danielpbarron> even when i paid almost 100 USD to ship to that UK guy i still profited quite well for the effort
cruciform: just about finished up with 6 months of logs; turns out I've a LOT of work to do! :-)
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: !!up esthlos
deedbot: esthlos voiced for 30 minutes.
cruciform: danielpbarron: £15, iirc
asciilifeform: in other noose, ALL of the 'livedvd' on gentoo's ftp appear to contain poetteringolade ( boots into gui horror, with systemd, 'networkmanager'-at-boot, etc. )
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: reproducing ben_vulpes' travails ahaha?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: reproducing everybody's travails
ben_vulpes: likely with the 'wrist' to make it work
asciilifeform: no exotic archs tho
ben_vulpes: buddy i've been beaten back on entirely conventional archs even of late
asciilifeform: i thought ben_vulpes had a ppc thing
ben_vulpes: among others, yes
ben_vulpes: it is sitting happily on a desk, refusing to ada for reasons of package gcc 4.9 blocks gnat-gpl, which is the point at which i threw up my hands and declared a temporary retrograde advance
asciilifeform: the sad fact re gnat is that there is no known way to build a gnat without an existing (built) gnat.
asciilifeform: ( the building can happen, however , on any box having a working gnat of whatever type )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you want to use gcc's gnat, you gotta get old ( 2016 and earlier oughta work ) tarball manually, and build; or obtain the 'obsolete' gentoo ebuild.
asciilifeform: alternatively you can use adacore's item.
asciilifeform: ( i don't know of any particular reason to spit on it )
ben_vulpes: most recently http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740314
a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 18:10 ben_vulpes: but the very very funny event was the script from the adacore binstaller simply fails, and instructed me to check an empty log file
asciilifeform: ugh
asciilifeform: that's a first. this was on the ppc? or on pc?
ben_vulpes: pc
ben_vulpes: cruciform: webirc is going to piss everyone off with join/part spam
ben_vulpes: either get a real bouncer or read the wwwlogz