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mircea_popescu: lol diana light a fire under bingo's butt
mircea_popescu: shinohai 13 views ? didja ul teh gf ?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/763930076E165275AF7659105A2A31F61AE3FBF931A7E188B2DC146EFFC7CF49 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 32094612339948189447948179783588092796973784028146716183449249266595409637294065230814599652546614172003881897026799 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '41.178.64.147 (ssh-rsa key from 41.178.64.147 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7E840C2FC34B3F9B8B95E6D12E18267E717ACBE1494C34DFA9055710347573A7 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 32094612339948189447948179783588092796973784028146716183449249266595409637294065230814599652546614172003881897026799 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '116.105.59.120 (ssh-rsa key from 116.105.59.120 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol diana light a fire under bingo's butt << a butt of a fire
BingoBoingo: Anyways after so much Qntra'ing fiction is taking some practice to warm up
BingoBoingo will wait before posting next part which updates James' state of being
BingoBoingo: You know I haven't wondered about pete_dushenski yet. pete_dushenski writes about everything. Where's his fanfic?
BingoBoingo: !~later tell thestringpuller You oughtta fanfic too.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: lel, egypt -- vietnam.
ben_vulpes: "Postfix uses file locking to avoid access conflicts while updating Berkeley DB or other local database files. This used to be safe, but as Berkeley DB has evolved to use more aggressive caching, file locking may no longer be sufficient." << oh ffs
ben_vulpes: locks don't even work anymore, cool
diana_coman: BingoBoingo> lol diana_coman OMG that is wonderful <- cheers!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes evolved! more efficient! here, now it's broken.
mircea_popescu: and in historical facebook lulz : https://archive.is/QDD0B
mircea_popescu: summary : facebook gave everyone @facebook.com address back in 2012 (and forced everyone to download a meanwhile failed "facebook messenger", before buying some thing meanwhile forgotten for more play money than ever seen before in any game of monopoly). the user was simply the facebook user. then they axed this service... and started forwarding all mail to the user's personal inbox. because yes, they're THAT important. but n
mircea_popescu: ot without safeguards (because yes, they're THAT dedicated to security) : first email received didn't get delivered, instead they just sent a notification from facebook explaining... how to opt out. after which they sent all further emails straight up. consequently emailing the entire facebook userbase was ~trivial.
mircea_popescu: all this because opt-out is perfectly ok, even in 2014, if you're facebook. hurr.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/ABF23DE303BE1C82869D7925F0ACF7A8F54B420469D851530FC4121CBEC0B356 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 105638693539486280577069786671334496140217243359651613257235225205932098397673 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.7.47 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.7.47 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.7.47@mkj.lt>; '
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B9546AF73E66CBDE87E3FB00E89C0FE7C53423CDDF964BD60DDEB18B8B6BFE82 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 105638693539486280577069786671334496140217243359651613257235225205932098397673 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.6.145 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.6.145 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.6.145@mkj.lt>;
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/ABF23DE303BE1C82869D7925F0ACF7A8F54B420469D851530FC4121CBEC0B356 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 105638693539486280577069786671334496140217243359651613257235225205932098397673 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.7.47 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.7.47 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.7.47@mkj.lt>; '
shinohai: Latest trilema made me .... hungry.
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/RVSq8 << this is some of the lulziest shit... what % of your content is shown to "your" followers ? used to be ~15%, by now it's about 5%.
mircea_popescu: a figure which strangely mimics the way publishign works otherwise. what % of the sale value of books ends up with the authors ? what % of cd sales end up with the studios, let alone the artists ?
mircea_popescu: they should just s/united states of america/the country of 5%/ and be done with it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/cTs3P << same, from horse's mouth
asciilifeform: shinohai: aha but no indictment linked there. afaik it was unsealed just now.
shinohai wonders if Preeeeet is muttering to himself this morning because he didn't get it.
mircea_popescu: what a sad day for justice and democracy!
shinohai: Maybe he was the admin of Hell, which explains why still no creds this morning.
mod6: scammed?
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is maybe worthy of a future news xtend ?
shinohai: My first time on tor in months, immediately scammed mod6
mircea_popescu: did you maybe end up on a fake site ?
shinohai: Nope, I made sure it was the exact one listed in multiple sources: http://legionhiden4dqh4.onion/reg.php
mod6: dang, is there any way to msg these guys?
mircea_popescu: mod6 apparently not lol
mod6: lol
mod6: ermahgerd
asciilifeform: in other noose, say goodbye to old, outdated, rocket 'xprize', and hello to the... new one: https://archive.is/8yz8b
asciilifeform: 'The Anu & Naveen Jain Women’s Safety XPRIZE is a $1 million global competition that challenges teams to leverage technology to empower communities with a transformative solution that ensures women’s safety. Armed with innovative safety nets, communities everywhere can rapidly respond to threats against any of its members, ensuring that help is always available when needed. The winning team’s solution will autonomously and inco
asciilifeform: nspicuously trigger an emergency alert while transmitting information to a network of community responders, all within 90 seconds and at an annual cost of $40 or less.'
mircea_popescu: i have nfi wat this is ?
asciilifeform: $maxint 'rape whistle' ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi
asciilifeform: but this is the new 'xprize problem' apparently.
asciilifeform: orbiting apparatus is soooo yesterday - sex prevention is 'in' !1111
mircea_popescu: "challenges teams to leverage technology to empower communities with a transformative solution that ensures women’s safety" is basically "find a way to extract magical energy from the ether to power a machine that'll make men give a shit about how women prefer to be fucked" ?
asciilifeform: eh they already know how to 'energy from ether', it is called printolade
asciilifeform: all else - follows this.
mircea_popescu: now if it only worked.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/5hv6d << in other lelz, 'Several of London’s largest banks are looking to stockpile bitcoins in order to pay off cyber criminals who threaten to bring down their critical IT systems.'
shinohai: http://archive.is/e3oME "We welcome the progressive position taken by the Argentinian government and regulators on Bitcoin." (Warning, link in tweet is to CoinTelegraph article)
shinohai: s/article/farticle/
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/Kle7s << in not-quite-noose, apparently this is a thing now
mircea_popescu: ok this is the epic-est shit i read all week : https://archive.is/GBNWF#selection-289.290-313.2
mircea_popescu: "Avoid easy selections, such as qwerty or password. If you want to pick an easy-to-remember but somewhat unique password, consider a variation of a word, such as a1rPl4nE for airplane."
mircea_popescu: these and other tips and tricks brought to you by red hat entreprise security department.
asciilifeform: 133333333337
trinque: McAfee killing criminals is supposed to make me not like him?
trinque: OH WAIT THEY THREW RAEP IN THERE TOO
thestringpuller: TIL 15% of all US households have a negative net worth
thestringpuller: elaborate?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/YyahC << one of the things the usg push for 'biometric auth' was for.
adlai: thestringpuller: if your net worth's center of gravity lies close to the printolade axis, it's negative on hard currency scales
thestringpuller: adlai the asciilifeform translator
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller nah it was discussed in the logs, whle back.
mircea_popescu: also giving the correct figure (60%)
hanbot: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161024/#103 << i was actually gonna check out some "linux chix" meeting at the local red hat hole when i noticed 'pre-registration with documento' was required, you know, for 'security'.
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting to read the log.
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x92 in position 5594: invalid start byte]
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> these and other tips and tricks brought to you by red hat entreprise security department. <that.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: ^^ didn't you fix that?
mircea_popescu: hanbot what if someone touches someone else inappropriately|!
ben_vulpes: in other news, my mp01 arrived and it is perfect.
mircea_popescu: your who ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: bought it to study the nsa exotica inside or wat.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: to wind 'user experience' experts up.
mircea_popescu: "Pre-order the MP 01 in white or brown to beat the rush – and receive a copy of Reclaiming Conversation by Sherry Turkle, a pack of Punkt. postcards, and a stylish tote bag."
mircea_popescu: lol. somewhere there's a jobs wannabe
ben_vulpes: nothing says "you are useless and your career wasted" than a conversation with a man who spent three hundred dollars on a device that precludes your 'lifes work'.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes somehow i suspect all the junk is still in there, under the plastic.
mircea_popescu: just not exposed to you.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the unboxing experience is strongly reminiscent of early apple
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: c'est possible. likely runs android under the hood even.
ben_vulpes: but: no way to install apps, no 'apps', even, max of 1000 text messages and some 200 address book entries.
ben_vulpes: no games
ben_vulpes: whimsical collection of bird noises
mircea_popescu: i prefer to get a crate of phones for my 300.
ben_vulpes has crate as well
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: buys cheapest possible shoes as well?
ben_vulpes: not really a dirigible device.
mircea_popescu: well, some things you buy by quality an' some by quantity.
mircea_popescu: generally the later are the sort of thing where quality is directed towards the state rather than you. like phones.
mircea_popescu: until/unless they import the republican license, there's no market for "good" phones. because a phone that's not predicated on breaking the law can't be good.
mircea_popescu: so the only thing left for it is to be cheap.
mircea_popescu: now shoes on the other hand, they're different. there's certainly the "i'll buy you this 30 dollar pair of red stilettos, which you then forget in the cab and nobody cares". there's also the fine italian leather shoes which are worth whatever they cost. so dunno.
ben_vulpes: i suppose what i'm most pleased about is prying one sucker of one tentacle off my forearm.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but did you ?
mircea_popescu: wel they can't send him pdfs now...
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not claiming escape!
ben_vulpes: but the internet terminal living in the backpack and not my pocket is an improvement.
mircea_popescu: check out the fine degrees!
asciilifeform: i will point out that the one ~admitted~ case of usg-sent-magic-packet-and-switched-on-the-mike involved a 'dumbphone'.
ben_vulpes: this is not a concern.
ben_vulpes: no devices are allowed in the war room.
asciilifeform: (all of the examples i personally know of, are perfectly reflashable-via-baseband, just same as crapple etc.)
mircea_popescu: eh to reflash it is comparatively hard work.
asciilifeform: work that is done 1ce per model.
mircea_popescu: no i mean you gotta actually send the pill to it
shinohai: AT least one person is going to look at you and wonder why you are speaking into a calculator ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: and as if the infrastructure for this were not already in place at every telco on planet3 ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'd be surprised.
ben_vulpes: great thing about keeping a decent fidelity scale in the office is impromptu coffee tasting experiments
ben_vulpes: "just how bad does coffee go in a week?" and other mysteries
BingoBoingo: "There are also mentions of McAfee’s propensity for coprophilia—not that it’s a crime, of course." << lol
mircea_popescu: hey, if you fuck like rabbit, you gotta eat like rabbit.
shinohai: Jewish? Hate fat fucks climbing down your chimney every December? Get the chimneyballoon TODAY! $19.95 + S&H
adlai: "The DP 01 has a visual answering machine which sorts recorded messages by date and time... messages are accessible from any other paired DP 01 handset." < looks like a decent landline, probably a more resilient niche than dumbphone given the holeyness visible in https://opensignal.com/
asciilifeform: adlai: landlines are headed to extinction on a good chunk of the planet.
asciilifeform: including where i live.
asciilifeform: speaking here of the analogue voice 'POTS' variety.
asciilifeform: that being said, one of the surest ways to begin to 'have problems' is to market an honest POTS-with-crypto telephone set.
asciilifeform: there are 0 on the market. and afaik there have always been 0.
asciilifeform: for reasons.
mircea_popescu: kinda narrow bw, not sure you could do voice-over-rsa
asciilifeform: not over 'raw rsa', no.
asciilifeform: otp - yes, you can.
mircea_popescu: an otp phone is not all that practical.
asciilifeform: for the bloody 7th time...
mircea_popescu: what dude, it's hard enough to get a girl's phone, you want her to write down her fucking otp for you ? while drunk at 3am ?
asciilifeform: if you only ever talk to 1 other box - perfectly practical.
mircea_popescu: if you ever talk to 1 other box calling this a telephone is nothing short of idiotic.
asciilifeform: and in the end, 1 phone on desk per talker.
asciilifeform: it worked for hitler, stalin, et al.
mircea_popescu: this scheme is so evidently inept, no explanation as to why nobody tried to implement it is required.
asciilifeform: it's been in use b/w us and su since 1950s
asciilifeform: and prior to that, churchill and truman.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-12 17:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the lolphonograph they had on a ship during ww2 ?
asciilifeform: and i eagerly await the application of the 'use drunk at 3am' argument to programming language, jet fighter, scalpel, and whatever else.
asciilifeform: the only device that is safe to operate 'drunk at 3am' is one's pillow.
asciilifeform: but if you must,
asciilifeform: just moment earlier there was a 'disposable phones, cheap' thread
asciilifeform: so you... GIVE the gurl the phone.
asciilifeform: that calls you, and has already fucked (in the packing crate) another identical phone, shares pad.
asciilifeform: calls ~only~ the matching phone.
asciilifeform: could easily cost a few bux, like keychain.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/10/24/lesthetique-du-mid-century-modern/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - L’esthetique du “Mid-Century Modern”.
mircea_popescu: dude... i dunno who this dumb shit works on, but you should probably eschew their company, it makes you stupid.
mircea_popescu: you wanted to know why nobody made crypto telephone. the reason is - there's no market. the reason there's no market, you explained yourself.
mircea_popescu: what more is needed ?
mircea_popescu: and wtf is this, no more trump news, no more mosul news, what is this gross failure of the united entertainment machine!
mircea_popescu: i was expecting lulz damnit!
mircea_popescu: somehow the fall of rutba failed to make it through the usg blocade, too.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 23:00 mircea_popescu: dude... i dunno who this dumb shit works on, but you should probably eschew their company, it makes you stupid.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558729 << it so happens that there is a (lemon) market.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 23:00 mircea_popescu: you wanted to know why nobody made crypto telephone. the reason is - there's no market. the reason there's no market, you explained yourself.
asciilifeform: (philips, at&t, etc. make various junk.)
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem is that the phone isn't this tool whereby you maintain one to one permanent links with aforeknown parties. the phone is this tool whereby you make new links with random new parties.
asciilifeform: for this - no, it dun go.
mircea_popescu: which is why the usecase for the phone is, "i met this chick last night at the rave"
mircea_popescu: but this is what the item IS
mircea_popescu: especially in the wired variety. who the everloving fuck is going to maintain landlines for you when you aim to use them like battle comms lines ?
mircea_popescu: the royal corps of engineers, that's who. not at&t, that's for sure.
mircea_popescu: moreover, all this was before internet. nowadays, i can scarcely comprehend how it'd work that i'd degrade a text link into a dumb voice link with someone who is intelligent enough to safely maintain and use otp.
asciilifeform: was thinking this.
asciilifeform: voice was... a fad
mircea_popescu: well, it has its place. but its an emotional thing, you call the bitchez up. granny, maybe.
asciilifeform: laughably easy to bug, tricky to understand unambiguously in real time, just plain suxx.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck has the patience to ~talk~. like, vocally. one on one. wtf.
asciilifeform: i realized, reading this thread, that i use ~0 voice.
mircea_popescu: i use plenty of it. but almost never with people i don't fuck.
phf: that's a good place to be
mircea_popescu: technology, as always to the detriment of the naturally gifted
mircea_popescu: i used to be a great public speaker.
shinohai: Now that's a fine posterior.
mircea_popescu: "find out if we really went to the moon"
shinohai: I will investigate thoroughly, I assure you, and report back.
mircea_popescu: oh you assure me do you.
mircea_popescu: well tonight's entertainment is here, so ima leave you with a parting shot : http://66.media.tumblr.com/10ce1eaeaae274fb0f12a7fdf8965673/tumblr_ofkdnwlNxI1ud9ntao2_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: and holy FUCK is linuxemc a turd.
asciilifeform: for some reason IDENTICAL settings for 2 axis give you one that finds the home switch correctly, but another that finds it, then zooms off in opposite direction until BANG
asciilifeform: because ??!??!?!??!!.
asciilifeform: *linuxCNC
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558544 << lel. "wat a amish yo ?" "who was first yo ?" "i tot dat jooz wuz da wunz who got u outta jail yo!"
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 02:43 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5491
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Seriously when is your Elliot fanfic starting?
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558563 << i definitely hammered home the notion that i'll write about anything today, but the fanfic requires some serious research into the mental vacuum that is elliot, research that just isn't on the agenda this week. between being out of town and renos at a couple suites and presentations and learning basic python, elliotology doesn't have much room to breathe
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 04:19 BingoBoingo: You know I haven't wondered about pete_dushenski yet. pete_dushenski writes about everything. Where's his fanfic?
BingoBoingo: How are you going to renovate spaces for North Americans without knowing the pinnacle of their empty spaces?
pete_dushenski: i have my ways.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: how are you figuring your chances are against the mighty diana_coman ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well diana_coman seemed to do a single contained narrative. She could serialize to my shock and awe. I figure my chances are marginal considering writing fiction is the opposite of writing qntra.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558671 << quality italian leather shoes are c$700-800 atm. ~double from a decade ago. only 7% inflation! fiat suxxess!
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 20:39 mircea_popescu: now shoes on the other hand, they're different. there's certainly the "i'll buy you this 30 dollar pair of red stilettos, which you then forget in the cab and nobody cares". there's also the fine italian leather shoes which are worth whatever they cost. so dunno.
BingoBoingo: And quality leather workboots cost $400 to $maxint, similar success
pete_dushenski: we're talking dress shoes like the ones i had on today. hugo boss. made in italy. c$700 (~usd$500)
pete_dushenski: work boots will be made in usa or china or hecho in mexico
pete_dushenski: unlikely to get blundstones or whatever from italy
BingoBoingo: Well, who the fuck would want Italian leather boots for working? Italian cows likely reflect Italian people, lazy. The hardworking ones left. What you want is made in US by Mexican immigrants for maximum quality.
pete_dushenski: "waiwut pete paid 700 for SHOES??!" ha. hardly. i dun pay retail for clothes n shoes anymore than i pay retail for mcm furniture. plus, i actually negotiated a 1500 gift card to high-end meanswear store a few months back so had to spend it on schmany attire accordingly.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-25#1558776 << where so cheap pete_dushenski ??
a111: Logged on 2016-10-25 02:53 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558671 << quality italian leather shoes are c$700-800 atm. ~double from a decade ago. only 7% inflation! fiat suxxess!
asciilifeform: or didja mean off-the-rack
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: italians aren't lazy so much as taxed into being "effient" with their taxable labour.
BingoBoingo: If they weren't lazy they wouldn't take to being taxed like that. Once again see Mexican immigrants to the US.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol! here i was thinking i was being all fancy and spangly and mr. 'imapauper4lyf' is wondering how it is that i'm scrimping and saving so!
pete_dushenski falls over
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: it's not really 'taking' being taxed if you're... not paying. and no one else is either.
asciilifeform: srsly if pete_dushenski had'em made for 0.7-0.8 k$ i wanna know where
pete_dushenski: is alf sitting on stash of coin so far up his arse that he forgot about it when it was time to bid on bitbet auction ? or am i dreaming in technicolour here ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: anyways, yes, was off rack.
asciilifeform: ah ok nm
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: normally i dun like spending money
pete_dushenski: when i find shoemaker who isn't jamaican / ethiopan bum i'll have proper footwear made.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: except on monitors... and shoes apparently
asciilifeform: my shoes are made of cardboard, pete_dushenski .
asciilifeform: but i've always wanted a pair that ain't -- still regret not having ordered one in mircea_popesculandia
pete_dushenski: what did such a pair cost in arg ? $150 worth of pesos ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi
pete_dushenski: $11/chip
asciilifeform: best eaten to the tune of cd-cum-green-marker on audiophiliac loudspeaker with custom japanese mains current transformer.
pete_dushenski: while parading around loft in handmade italian leather shoes and cognac in-hand... with nothing else besides.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-24#1558738 << speaking of at&t, didn't see their pending merger with time warner in the logs
a111: Logged on 2016-10-24 23:25 asciilifeform: (philips, at&t, etc. make various junk.)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: technically the 'at&t' from that thread is lucent
asciilifeform: vs the co that used to be cingular .
pete_dushenski: aha. well, merger nooz is merger nooz all the same.
asciilifeform: snoar, usg playing checkers with self.
pete_dushenski: like gaz buying trabant, sure.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: shops at stores with gift cards?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: pete is a better Joo than Yoo
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: interesting claim
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