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pete_dushenski: buonasera
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 381.41, Best ask: 381.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 381.55, 24 hour volume: 86175.43226322, 24 hour low: 330.75, 24 hour high: 379.9, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: this is almost starting to look like a breakout eh
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 22:53:50; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313062 << waitasec he actually named the boy this ?
pete_dushenski: it's no different than calling your friend 'aces' because when you play poker he somehow always have pocket rockets. tis just a nickname.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:09:05; BingoBoingo: ty pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes heyo any measurements on the little v-man to report ? length, weight, etc. ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: "My naïve Tesla "buy" call was predicated on the American green fetish at the time" << did you actually pick up some shares or just 'recommend' ?
pete_dushenski: "The worst thing that can happen to a man is for him to invest speculatively as a sideline and for it to work. He then runs the risk of considering himself a good investor." << hardly the worst thing that can happen to a man. depends entirely on what he does with his self-confidence as an investor
pete_dushenski: does he go to the casino and play lotteries because he thinks 'i can't lose!' or does he bury his fortunate treasure until something equally magnificent to whatever succeeded the first time around comes around again, IF it comes around again.
pete_dushenski: so i score a hole-in-one at the golf course and think myself a good golfer now, worst case scenario is i buy a few rounds of beer and boast for a few weeks/months, maybe biting off a bit more than i can chew in a few subsequent matches, but the afterglow will soon fade
pete_dushenski: it's self-correcting. the 'good investor' will come to see himself as having been fortunate THAT ONCE
pete_dushenski: unless, i grant, he's a raving narcissistic lunatic. in which case all bets are off anyways
pete_dushenski: I have only seen conspicuous consumers and Apple fanboys wearing the things. << i've seen exactly two young men wearing the apple watch. exactly two. "no one could've predicted!"
pete_dushenski: butbutbut 'wearable tech is teh future and stuff'
pete_dushenski: no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are.
pete_dushenski: feels like we never even left, doesn't it.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313561 << read virgil's eclogues if you haven't already.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:41:07; mircea_popescu: i find the pastoral images soothing
pete_dushenski: i found it a bit dull but hey, to each his own.
pete_dushenski: though farm life does hold some appeal
pete_dushenski: unfortunately around here that's readily muddled with 'acreage life', which it basically ten x 12-acre plots per 'subdivision' where each family has a mid-sized house and a big field for storing their camping trailers/skidoos
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00054514 = 10.2486 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313568 << 'my wife's not in labour, labour's in my wife'
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:48:22; ben_vulpes: i'm not interested in it, it's interested in me.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313617 << lulzy imagery to call kneepads, shinpads, elbow pads, shoulder pads, wrist guards, neck braces all 'helmets'
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 04:06:09; mircea_popescu: next thing you know wife gets too confident of her position and the kid's covered in helmets.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313759 << imo it's 50x ~less~ believable now that eth has ~anyone~ interested whatsoever. much less anyone with a few hundred btc to their credit.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 06:55:59; mircea_popescu: supposedly there exist suckers buying into this. like supposedly there existed suckers buying into the original "sale". right-o.
pete_dushenski: unless other scam/altcoiners are dropping their other bags and grabbing for eth, lol
pete_dushenski: speaking of which... eth: Last Price 0.00287685 24hr Change -13.38%
pete_dushenski: g-g-g-g-g-gooooooold
pete_dushenski: hey 216 btc riding on that wager. decent.
pete_dushenski: and in the latest bitcoin bloodbath, even the mighty maidsafecoin is coming back down to earth. pretty much ipo level nao and nowhere to go but down.
assbot: Death rates up among poor, middle-aged whites: Suicide, alcohol, drugs factors. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Piys2J )
assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrkRW7 )
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo mebbe tlp became a statistic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41250 @ 0.00053954 = 22.256 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 17:32:44; ascii_field: the no-dick system
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you mean one million or whatever bs volume it had this month
pete_dushenski: aha that
mircea_popescu: "A scripting language modifies a working system to do certain additional tasks or existing tasks differently and cannot exist without the working system. A programming language builds a working system from scratch." << cute.
mircea_popescu: i understand what the author would like to be true, but seriously...
mircea_popescu: parsed vs compiled is a thing. other than that...
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314202 << only worms eat dirt, only everyone has a smartphone
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 20:53:47; trinque: "only" is perhaps not the best term to use to describe the majority
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 370.05, vol: 53833.04812030 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 344.887, vol: 30171.45306 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 372.45, vol: 99475.03302234 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 370.0, vol: 10.94258278 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 387.7146, vol: 87337.13630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 367.0, vol: 284.82821041 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 358.4425, vol: 233.20731221 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 373.804381771
mircea_popescu: such signal.
BingoBoingo: Many signal
BingoBoingo: seriously congrats pete_dushenski
BingoBoingo: May Pantagruel comfort you in your sleep with cries of praise and hunger
pete_dushenski: now there's a prayer for a wicked soul
pete_dushenski: speaking of wicked souls, goethe's faust is giving me the chills atm !
pete_dushenski: though i can probably chalk a fair bit of that to listening to the exquisitely performed audiobook recording while walking through the creepy, empty river valley in the early evening.
pete_dushenski: it's strange having sunset at 5pm.
pete_dushenski: the sun sets after 10pm in june here (53.5* north latitude)
BingoBoingo: I prefer it to what happens in the spring with the mornings
pete_dushenski: being...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13816 @ 0.00054693 = 7.5564 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: dark an hour later suddenly
BingoBoingo: There is no need for an extra hour of sunlight in the summer evening, let the dark comfort and cloak our depravities
pete_dushenski: eh i'm fond of the late, long summer evenings.
pete_dushenski: you can golf until after 10:30 !
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 19:05:41; ascii_field: does anyone else find that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi.tar.gz.sig will NOT download in any ver of firefox ?
assbot: Source file could not be read - MozillaZine Knowledge Base ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q300uA )
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You can golf in the dark
BingoBoingo: Ads an element of challenge
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 03:53:46; asciilifeform: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gyQAAOSwlaxWNsi8/s-l1600.jpg << yes, that's cast iron.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Ransomware Ring Busted, "Decryptors" Rushed by Adware Vendors - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ransomware-ring-busted-decryptors-rushed-by-adware-vendors/
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 04:11:28; mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed.
pete_dushenski: fuck, even my ibm model m has a name 'round the house : richard a.k.a. dick, for the persistant annoyance obv.
punkman: human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom
assbot: Robot 'actress' Geminoid F is given star role in Japanese film Sayonara | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1izJOCF )
pete_dushenski: punkman computars in every room ! and chickens in every stove !
pete_dushenski: and yea, naming's not for everyone.
pete_dushenski recalls famous top gear botswana special where hammond names his opel 'oliver', to much razzing from may and clarkson.
pete_dushenski: iirc it was an opel kadett
pete_dushenski checks... kadett it was
assbot: The Station Night Club Fire (GRAPHIC) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1izL0Wu )
assbot: Station nightclub fire victims lament deadly Romanian blaze | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News ... ( http://bit.ly/1izLoo2 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52350 @ 0.00054731 = 28.6517 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00055736 = 31.881 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76000 @ 0.00054463 = 41.3919 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314443 << I think it can handle arbitrary bytestrings
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 02:37:49; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my original 'v' relied on python's 're' (regexp) widget, and will prolly fall down if looked at with evil eye
BingoBoingo: For some definitions of arbitrary it seems
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314463 << not uncommon, using object as a dictionary
assbot: Jury says Harris-Stowe discriminated, awards dismissed white instructor nearly $5 million : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1k7kcyE )
jurov: ^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode
adlai: who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful
jurov: lol "It's uninspired and ungracious."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46150 @ 0.00054148 = 24.9893 BTC [-] {3}
davout: maybe designing the bitcoin unicode symbol is a problem fit for hearn and gavin, would keep them busy at least
davout: debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00054232 = 39.9148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142400 @ 0.00054006 = 76.9045 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: no!! need horizontal bars for stabileety!!!1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 164150 @ 0.00053756 = 88.2405 BTC [-] {6}
adlai: radiating bars, representing hubs and spokes, heavy nodes and litehead wallets
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.06520684 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b5
assbot: Man Loses Hand During Fight Outside Bryan Nightclub ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7xx6P )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00053601 = 35.1087 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: https://instagram.com/p/oc4moYtDUF/ instagramslut "quits" social media
assbot: Social Media Is Not Real Life on Instagram: “Was paid $400 to post a dress. That's when I had maybe 150k followers, with half a million followers, I know of many online brands (with big budgets) that pay up to $2000 per post. Nothing is wrong with accepting brand deals. I just think it should be k ... ( http://bit.ly/1RNN4X7 )
davout: jurov: lol
davout: i can do the same with my c0ck
assbot: ClubOrlov: An Exit Strategy for Traitors ... ( http://bit.ly/1RO09zG )
asciilifeform: 'Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation... Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them that this would be worth it?
asciilifeform: Where did they all get the money to pay for it? Why was there absolutely no effort at any border to stop them? Why did this not start earlier? ... look at the character of the average “refugee.” Why are they all well-fed, well-clothed, self-confident young men showing no signs of stress or hardship? ... Why do they all own high-quality mobile phones charged with seemingly endless minutes? It is clear that the “refugees
asciilifeform: ” have been briefed on exactly what kinds of social benefits they can demand, and how to go about doing it, and so they are audacious and become violent if met with resistance.'
asciilifeform: 'Germany's vice chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, who called an undefined but large part of the German populace who dare to oppose this insanity “Pack” (vermin).'
asciilifeform: 'Vacant houses and apartments are confiscated by force and given over to the “refugees” free of charge. Every “refugee” given rental housing is paid for by the communities, as much as 500 Euros per person per month.'
asciilifeform: most lulzily,
asciilifeform: 'I have heard from several people connected to European security circles that the illegal weapons market is completely sold out, with many dealers holding on to their weapons for their own personal use. This is a rumour, but since we have been forced to depend on hearsay for any real information right now, I tend to believe it.'
asciilifeform: so usg has decided to prolong own life by feeding germany the kosovo pill.
assbot: Kela to prepare basic income proposal | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi ... ( http://bit.ly/1RO2ydr )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314700 << didja verify the sig? the download often reports as successful but is in fact truncated
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 07:28:49; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << I got the error popup but also the "save file" dialog, and it worked http://kb.mozillazine.org/Source_file_could_not_be_read
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: somehow people are missing the significance of this find
asciilifeform: at one point, the net mostly... worked.
asciilifeform: whereas today, it is divided into two segments, of unknown proportions, only one of which works as described...
asciilifeform: and if it is a browser issue, it appears to affect all civilized browsers of the graphical variety
asciilifeform: but why break your brain, only a terrorist!!1111!!11 would download a pgp sig!
asciilifeform: meanwhile,
asciilifeform: 'The court sentenced the defendant to custody of the Bureau of Prisons for a period of 78 months. This term consists of terms of 78 months on each of Counts One, Two, and Three, all counts to be served concurrently. Upon release from custody, the defendant shall be placed on a term of supervised release for a period of 3 years. This term consists of terms of 3 years on each of Counts One, Two, and Three, all such terms to run
asciilifeform: concurrently. The defendant is ordered to pay a special assessment in the amount of $300, which shall be due immediately. The defendant shall pay Restitution in the amount of $340,000. The court did not impose a fine.'
asciilifeform: (carl force)
asciilifeform: or hm, this was qntra'd already, nm.
adlai: ah, but ross has to serve his life sentenses in series
kakobrekla: concurrently ??
kakobrekla: he should have gotten more cores.
adlai: Corrections 2.0
asciilifeform: adlai: this was re: carl force. which i somehow slept through.
kakobrekla: "can i bring a few friends and we sit out the years in a month?"
adlai: asciilifeform: well i slept through the fact that his sentences sleep through eachother!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314722 << in the american version of this (the famous 'station fire') there was some fella who survived ~at the bottom of~ the human plug in the only exit - by being drenched in the piss from the bodies above him.
asciilifeform: leidenfrost effect.
asciilifeform: so the '$64k question', was there a 'piss man' in bucharest ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314735 << usg wants a convenient three-byte marker for intel's hw rootkit to grep your ram for. any questions?
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:21; jurov: ^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314662 << no handoutz for these 'untermenschen', move along.
jurov: "BTC" or "XBT" is not convenient enough?
asciilifeform: ask them, not me...
adlai: too many false positives in --armor blocks
punkman: asciilifeform: it was really odd seeing all those people stuck in front door and others trying unsuccessfully to pull them out of the human pile
punkman: (in Station fire video)
asciilifeform: punkman: cattle men at their best
asciilifeform: i still can't fathom why anybody with half a brain would voluntarily set foot in such a place
punkman: also interesting how fast the thick black smoke started pouring out of every orifice
asciilifeform: it is one thing to sit in, e.g., crowded train or lift, gotta get to that point B from your point A
asciilifeform: quite another to voluntarily pack into a crematorium
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314768 << checked the downloaded file, looked intact
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:43:34; asciilifeform: ;;later tell punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314700 << didja verify the sig? the download often reports as successful but is in fact truncated
asciilifeform: punkman: what browser ?
punkman: Firefox
asciilifeform: ~which~ firefox
adlai: /usr/bin/firefox
punkman: some newish version :P
asciilifeform: i would not be much surprised to discover that plaintext matching the description of a gpg sig is being silently massaged, at random, somewhere in the backbonez.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314643 << can't wait for the massive lease termination penalty for 'jailbreak' etc.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 05:39:59; pete_dushenski: no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 15:37:12; asciilifeform: another was 'you open the box and the gasenwagen comes ten minutes later.' this was at one point considered practical but the proliferation of cheap hardware retired it.
assbot: Winner claimed in $1 million iOS 9 hacking contest | PCWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjqWVr )
asciilifeform: laundry.
asciilifeform: (transfer of usg moneys from one pot to another)
asciilifeform: no street plebe ever has or could win these 'contests.'
asciilifeform: (picture what would happen if you sent them a 'winning entry')
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.58, Best ask: 390.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 390.61, 24 hour volume: 122790.98133868, 24 hour low: 337.6, 24 hour high: 398.0, 24 hour vwap: None
thestringpuller: volatility round two
adlai: jurov: how does one massage ml messages to hash correctly? eg, `curl http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151101/attachment_14afbbebdbd4ba8de2d22b26f539cd468a3e71cd.txt|sha1sum` returns 550b8afdb75a1f8c682cb545eb2c8941e2584c29
adlai: discrepancy never noticed on attachments past the first attachment_deadbeef.txt, but noticed on every first one checked
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:44:31; asciilifeform: whereas today, it is divided into two segments, of unknown proportions, only one of which works as described...
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b40
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b41
phf: adlai: you might have an extra newline there
adlai tried adding/removing strategic newlines, as well as s/=/=3D/
adlai did not spend more than ~15 minutes guessing at these
phf: notmuch show --format=mbox thread:000000000000999c |awk '// { if(p) { print } } /-----BEGIN/ { if(!p) print; p=1;} /-----END/ { p=0 }'|xxd > a; curl http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151101/attachment_14afbbebdbd4ba8de2d22b26f539cd468a3e71cd.txt > b; diff a b
phf: ^- shows that attachment_ has \x0a\x0a at the end, where's my awk based extract only adds one
phf: (that second curl is missing |xxd, but you get the general idea)
adlai only gets one trailing #xA from curl!?
phf: ...
jurov: adlai interesting
phf: welcome to modern computing
phf: 0000600: 2d0a 0a -..
phf: ^- is the tail end of that curl
adlai: ok, that one gives me the same. the ones that I checked (mod6's V, mpi-genesis) did not.
adlai: but none of them sha1sum to the filename
adlai: signatures are correct, so at some level this is masturbation
phf: well, you can just pipe them into xxd and then diff the result
adlai has exceeded his daily allotment of manual sha1 preimage mining
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 (40 shares, 0.14 BTC), 7D: 0.0035 / 0.00357296 / 0.00383564 (1482 shares, 5.30 BTC), 30D: 0.0035 / 0.00418695 / 0.00469539 (7480 shares, 31.32 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.0035
gribble: 285.714285714
jurov: O.o
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 355.0, Best ask: 360.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 355.0, 24 hour volume: 373.30829898, 24 hour low: 293.5, 24 hour high: 365.0, 24 hour vwap: 325.80944611
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00053495 = 12.4643 BTC [-] {5}
funkenstein_: mod6 ,thanks for the script :D
funkenstein_: also in "noob learning V ropes" news, patches for parousal: http://frass.woodcoin.org/dev/
assbot: Index of /dev ... ( http://bit.ly/1kpxFRS )
funkenstein_: *perusal
adlai: now that's a coin i haven't seen in a long time
adlai just a couple days ago discussed finite vs indefinite disinflation, mentioned woodcoin, eyebrows were raised
funkenstein_: :D
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314662 <-- reminded me of http://www.theonion.com/article/study-depression-hits-losers-hardest-924
assbot: Study: Depression Hits Losers Hardest - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1RsNXnY )
adlai: phun phact, the onion is totally wrong on this. depression is worst when baseless.
funkenstein_: aha, good point.. more "clinical" then i suppose
funkenstein_: "spend your remaining years raising some woman's children by another man" <-- /me would consider this a compliment of highest order
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00053487 = 33.5898 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: funkenstein_: in which direction?
funkenstein_: trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc.
trinque: funkenstein_: perhaps. given though that having children is already likely -ev, bringing biological conflict into the balance would seem to make it more so.
trinque: furthermore you can't spend the compliment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00053487 = 5.9173 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#b26
funkenstein_: trinque, biological conflict?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115900 @ 0.00053484 = 61.988 BTC [-] {5}
trinque: funkenstein_: you're aware that other primate (and other mammal) males will kill unrelated offspring of a new mate?
funkenstein_: and direct offspring, what of it?
funkenstein_: "unrelated" is a bit of a misnomer, wouldn't you agree?
trinque: not at all
trinque: you are going to expend more effort convincing some kid that saw you show up to obey than you will one that didn't
trinque: and beyond that, I would not be surprised at all if being aware of "degree of relatedness" is built-in
funkenstein_: well that's where the proverbial switch comes in then I suppose
funkenstein_: either you make them practice or you don't.. if your eyes are slightly different color that's really not important
trinque: seems you are discounting the in-group/out-group dynamics of social animals
trinque: nowhere did I say it was impossible to teach a stepchild, yet, may cost more
funkenstein_: could be, yah.. but still, "you should be a teacher" is not an insult
trinque: "go and be parasitised; you are only useful as fodder for others" << is
trinque: "only" being quite operative there
funkenstein_: true.. to me, being parasitised, as fodder for others, would more likely be - take my sperm, discard me
funkenstein_: teach offspring winblows
funkenstein_: :D
trinque: lol, you precious bodily fluids ?!
trinque: *your
punkman: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 418.09, Best ask: 418.25, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 418.25, 24 hour volume: 155010.88900597, 24 hour low: 342.01, 24 hour high: 419.0, 24 hour vwap: None
PeterL: crazy price jump recently, how high will it go?
punkman: to the moon
PeterL: good news for bitbet, makes the price bets more interesting
mircea_popescu: !up Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: look who's there.
Bugpowder: gotta ident
thestringpuller: Holy fuck!
thestringpuller: This day just got more interesting.
PeterL: what is interesting?
thestringpuller: Bugpowder has returned. A name I haven't seent in many years.
jurov: ;;seen bugpowder
gribble: bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 minutes and 3 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> gotta ident
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314711 << that's impractical, can't ONLY do live porn .
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 07:38:19; punkman: human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314736 << they're just fishing for relevancy. who knows, if they do that maybe we don't kick unicode out of computing.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:44; adlai: who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314740 << the problem with the flat world is, inter alia, that nobody wants to do the tasks he's suited for. gotta aspire!
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 11:45:35; davout: debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption
mircea_popescu: gavin threw out a perfectly satisfactory career as mcdonalds manager to pretend like he's an intellectual, that scruffy kid could have been an excellet poolboy, but no, he has to pretend like political clout and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: life's hard for the postmodern inept.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field meanwhile cut another ~100kB of crud off mpi
ascii_field: it begins to approach....
ascii_field: printability.
mircea_popescu: the postfeudal jobbágy had it better. yes, backbreaking labour and no ownership, but also the satisfaction of a day's work done each night.
ascii_field: incidentally this thing is going in cardano in place of the unspeakably untested ragtag thing i had previously.
mircea_popescu: ev en better!
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b34
ascii_field when reading code where each important algo quotes a knuth aop chapter and verse, the soul fucking sings
mircea_popescu: lol jurov. no boobs do that. ever.
ascii_field: ~who~ wrote mpi, i wonder
ascii_field: do we know ? (i certainly do not)
ascii_field: all i see in the commentz is 'tomb of the unknown free software soldier' sorta thing
ascii_field: why this kolhoz.
ascii_field: i never understood.
mircea_popescu: hey, me either.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:30:17; asciilifeform: 'Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation... Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them tha
mircea_popescu: islamic society consists by 45-60% by mass of young (ie, just like in the west, under 35) men with no property and no prospects (just like in the west)
mircea_popescu: except there they're not being pacified with idle "prospects" and "software engineer" pretenses, they're just told outright : your sisters belong to the wealthy and get fucked.
mircea_popescu: so they're getting fucked. towards where there's free cunt.
ascii_field: waitasec how does this work
mircea_popescu: <and beer, but beer's a minor point.
mircea_popescu: justlikethat.
ascii_field: they fed the gurlz to dogs or what
ascii_field: where are they
mircea_popescu: i didn't know anyone THERE who didn't keep MORE WOMEN THAN ME
mircea_popescu: i don't know anyone here who keeps as many
mircea_popescu: do the math.
ascii_field: ah, 60% by mass, vs by volume, lol
mircea_popescu: (ironically, this is also evident in the off-kilter births balance. they're breeding males at postwar replacement rates, for this reason.)
mircea_popescu: been going on for so long.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: are you familiar with v. rezun's (aka v. suvorov, pseudonym) argument circa 1980 re: why ussr 'must perpetually expand communism' ?
ascii_field: he had this thesis, that it 'has to kill any alternative before it becomes a palatable thing
mircea_popescu: this argument is ancient.
ascii_field: i find it entirely plausible that usg would try to open the scuttling valve on what remains of industrial europe
ascii_field: in a very similar algo as the above
mircea_popescu: "the onlyt way we'll go past spreading-works is once all alternatives are exhausted"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46350 @ 0.00053596 = 24.8417 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: but anyway - the migration towards europe is a mix. females go out of africa, usually with a herd of children in tow. ie, from africa the cows move out.
mircea_popescu: in middle east etc, the cows are owned and stay, the grunts move out
mircea_popescu: they meet in istanbul these days, and invent faux "family units"
mircea_popescu: anyhway, the biases included are indicative of the source. "oh, must be secret service ops " = "we secretly believe secret service is the coolest thing in the world" = "we're here, not there, nor do we manifestly have a clue about anything, so therefore... we';re ss rejects"
mircea_popescu: mmyeah. exactly.
ascii_field: so what, god opened the borders and set up the specially-designated 24/7 trains full of berserking orcs ?
ascii_field: just happened, all by itself
mircea_popescu: the herd moves, alf.
mircea_popescu: always counterclockwise.
ascii_field: why moves today and not last year ? and not next year ?
mircea_popescu: such are the questions that lead to insanity.
ascii_field: and why not met with flamethrowers ?
mircea_popescu: who sent god's whip ? god ?
mircea_popescu: why now and notearlier a minute, or later ?
mircea_popescu: because the flesh is weak.
mircea_popescu: why do you think rapists usually get the cock wet ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, i have mace" yeah, you do. so ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, bbl.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00053484 = 21.661 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69900 @ 0.00053631 = 37.4881 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
punkman: ascii_field: I had a client that was automating payment of those. taxi/limo company.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00053677 = 22.6249 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 204048 @ 0.00053983 = 110.1512 BTC [+] {5}
punkman: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 394.75, vol: 84845.64867873 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 367.0, vol: 44757.79797 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 392.9, vol: 176800.21379135 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 10.85867695 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 415.782486, vol: 116744.19000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 396.79108, vol: 413.41721194 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 383.565, vol: 465.42021608 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
punkman: "don't forget to bring cash"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75900 @ 0.00054216 = 41.1499 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_field: sahires == BugPowder ?
ascii_field: or just neighbours ?
asciilifeform: !up sahires
sahires: lol
sahires: stupid client
sahires: new computer
sahires: I’ve been outed
deedbot-: [Qntra] IBM Approves Third Party OS/2 Distro - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ibm-approves-third-party-os2-distro/
sahires: gotta bring the GPG key over from other computer
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315011 << holy fuck, it's as if we didn't have ~enough~ 1990s shitware living on as undead
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:10:20; deedbot-: [Qntra] IBM Approves Third Party OS/2 Distro - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ibm-approves-third-party-os2-distro/
BingoBoingo: Seriously
jurov: ascii_field: how do you flamethrower million people?
ascii_field: jurov: you flamethrower 1,000 and the rest - if they have any sense - get the message.
jurov: you know, mmore than 1000 already drowned
jurov: not getting message somehow
ascii_field: drowned != publicly impaled on camera
ascii_field: jurov: do you seriously think that they were let in because there was not enough ammo to shoot every last orc ?
jurov: no not because of that reason
ascii_field: or that if a million russians wanted to move in and rape, pillage, there would be the same welcome ?
jurov: if russia was i ruins, yes
ascii_field: aha. controlled chaos.
jurov: merkel&co just thought bunsiness as usual, if they can have a million already there, they can accept 10 times more
ascii_field: the orcs are welcome because they spread chaos and destroy the competition of usg
jurov: no other reason
jurov: shoulda invade a china, too
jurov: ir that's not a competition?
ascii_field: china is not competition.
ascii_field: think about it
jurov: says who?
ascii_field: competition is places where 'brain drain' MOVES TO
ascii_field: su did not heavily police its border with cn, for this reason
jurov: yes, some do move there now
ascii_field: it's a run-from country, not a run-to.
ascii_field: very few.
ascii_field: because it's a shithole.
jurov: because orlov says so?
ascii_field: afaik he has not commented re: cn
ascii_field: but there is no shortage of public evidence of it being a shithole. in the spirit of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-07-2015#1190095
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 20:54:46; mircea_popescu: which is why no cows, no trees, everyone on tatamis
ascii_field: and no white man ever really, legitimately, enters the cn wot.
jurov: anyway, how do you imagine anyone in the EU would initiate impalements?
jurov: there isn't even capital punishment
ascii_field: no worries, the caliphate will rediscover the art of picturesque capital punishment in eu.
jurov: nono
jurov: i did not ask about hypothetical future caliphate
ascii_field: but that's who will answer...
jurov: you proposed that as realistic preventive solution, so i'm curipus how do you imagine that?
ascii_field: can picture it 10 different ways
ascii_field: say, ever 'refugee' gets two weeks to make himself scarce and after that, gasenwagen
jurov: again, who will do it?
jurov: who will make them vanish?
ascii_field: army coup ?
jurov: pffffhhhaha
ascii_field: but yes, there is no coup. because, as we learn, the germans do not really want to live.
ascii_field: jurov: aren't you in germany now ?
jurov: no
ascii_field vaguely recalled something about jurov possibly moving there
jurov: it was postponed (for reasons unrelated to politics)
ascii_field: i know a fella in meatspace who wanted to move to germany
ascii_field: but no moar.
ascii_field: which is what got me on this train of thought.
kakobrekla: !up Bugpowder
jurov: i suspect it will end up like wwii, it will be *very* different germany as before, but everyone will still envy it
kakobrekla: Bugpowder you should auth with assbot if you want a permavoice.
ascii_field: jurov: wwii did not involve a population replacement in de
jurov: indeed it did
kakobrekla: oh shit im deauthed too.
ascii_field: jurov: last i saw, it was still full of germans ?
jurov: these "germans" lived hundreds of years outside germany
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
jurov: !up ascii_field
jurov: it's documented many times in european history, that genes move in completely unrelated directions to culture and language
kakobrekla: !up Bugpowder
jurov: so if caliphate does not happen, then this
Bugpowder: tyty
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
deedbot-: [Qntra] Ohio Ballot Measure Seeks Creation of Protected Monopoly - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ohio-ballot-measure-seeks-creation-of-protected-monopoly/
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
deedbot-: [Qntra] Bull Farmer Killed in Shootout While Protecting Life - http://qntra.net/2015/11/bull-farmer-killed-in-shootout-while-protecting-life/
BingoBoingo: ^ Bull Lives Matter
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Whither the Edmonton parking meter? Beneath the steel-toed boot of the bezzle. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/03/whither-the-edmonton-parking-meter-beneath-the-steel-toed-boot-of-the-bezzle/
lobbes: It is argued that Issue 2 (restricting monopolies) would also prohibit citizens from bringing issues to the ballot (via petition) that deal with any kind of tax reform
assbot: Ohioans Beware: State Issue 2 - 1851 Center for Constitutional Law ... ( http://bit.ly/1NpFFOv )
lobbes: and that it wouldn't really stop monopolies anyway, as the Ohio General Assembly would still be able to do such
lobbes: democracy!11! ftw
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Ohio is basically a shitpit. Take everything wrong with Chicago and spread it over the area of an entire state and you get Ohio.
BingoBoingo: Ohio, where the water in the rivers is as flamable as the diesel in the trucks.
lobbes: BingoBoingo: where, in America, is it not a shitpit?
lobbes: different flavors, perhaps
BingoBoingo: I dunno, but even compared to the rest of the place, Ohio is especially smelly.
lobbes: idk, there's Oklahomo, Michigan, but now I guess we're just ranking shit
lobbes: and yeah, there is a literal smell to some places in Ohio
BingoBoingo: Oklahomo is pretty bad, but less overtly toxic in a give you cancer sort of way than Ohio. Michigan still has the Upper Penninsula last I checked.
thestringpuller: Kansas City always smelled like poopoo to me
thestringpuller: I remember being driven to the airport one morning and my god
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Kansas City definitely also has a "sepia tone" everything there is brown
hanbot briefly lived in Ohio on a river lovingly referred to as the "old & tangy"
thestringpuller: hanbot lived in Columbus?
hanbot: misfortunately
thestringpuller: not as bad as Canton
lobbes: Sandusky; esp stinky. But they got roller coasters that kill people, at least
hanbot: hmm, do they charge for tickets too?
BingoBoingo: St Louis isn't so bad. South City stinks in a few places. North County has some radioactive hotspots. Murder happens pretty much everywhere in the city on a long enough timeline.
lobbes: hanbot: I've heard around $30 a pop, though I've never been myself. My loathing of crowds may have kept me alive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62108 @ 0.00053818 = 33.4253 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 399.01, Best ask: 400.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 400.0, 24 hour volume: 178828.86721472, 24 hour low: 360.99, 24 hour high: 423.88, 24 hour vwap: None
adlai: revisited from above, moreover
pete_dushenski: and 178k coins traded ? mkay.
thestringpuller: bitcoinica 3.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00053976 = 17.92 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: arrrise chicken!
adlai: btc has rallied, where's the s.mpoe pop?
pete_dushenski: not how it works
pete_dushenski: there are an infinite number of dollars to collapse into btc, finite number of btc to collapse into smpoe
adlai: where's mats's crystal ball when you need it
pete_dushenski: probably updating itself
kakobrekla: ;;8ball whats it gonna be
gribble: Come again?
kakobrekla: you heard me.
pete_dushenski: h8te ball
adlai: extending pete's floorless logic, s.mpoe has a soft ceiling at 21MCxBTC/1BS.MPOE = a cool two million satoshi per share.... there's a little headroom left.
adlai: now please disregard everything except "BS"
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: also the mpoe bubble bot isn't on right
mircea_popescu: ;;8ball tits or ass ?
gribble: No.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00053691 = 27.4898 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: see, gotta know how to ask.
shinohai: ;;8ball coke or meth
gribble: Obviously.
adlai: ;;8ball will bitcoin remember the fifth of november?
gribble: _I_ don't know.
adlai: ;;8ball are markets sentient, or merely sadistic?
gribble: Come again?
mircea_popescu: anyone got any idea what "futurniture" is supposed to be, or who Matias Vangsnes is ?
adlai: assrests that will arrive in Two Weeks(tm)?
mircea_popescu: gah and we have an issue with mpex ;/
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
jurov: wish such an issue would be more often :D
adlai: what sort of issue?
jurov will not comment further
ben_vulpes: wb adlai
ascii_field: moar lisp plz
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314635 << you misunderstand. my entire net worth is tied up in $bezzlecorp.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 05:31:42; pete_dushenski: "My naïve Tesla "buy" call was predicated on the American green fetish at the time" << did you actually pick up some shares or just 'recommend' ?
ben_vulpes: perhaps at the end of this fiscal year i can spread the risk around a bit.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314633 << healthy, somewhere in the first standard deviation for most things.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 05:30:47; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes heyo any measurements on the little v-man to report ? length, weight, etc. ?
adlai: first from the bottom? top? middle?
ben_vulpes: around the mean.
adlai: "and may your first child be an average child"
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: l'chaim
ben_vulpes: ascii_field wished me mean reversion
jurov: fat tail
ben_vulpes: by the way, american medical professionals have this habit of throwing out uncontextualized numbers: "oh, thus and such should happen by the other date"
pete_dushenski: fat hammies
ben_vulpes: "so, if it doesn't happen by then be worried?"
ascii_field: l0l i wished him to ~be spared~ mean reversion
mircea_popescu: "well then fuck you ?" "how about just fuck my wife" "deal"
ben_vulpes: the only men i've seen in this saga are the surgeons and the family doc. dunno what that means.
ben_vulpes: ty, pete_dushenski
adlai: ;;isup mpex.ws
gribble: mpex.ws is down
mircea_popescu: !up Mineur099
BingoBoingo can't believe the Bull Farmer story isn't getting much traction yet.
BingoBoingo: because #BullLivesMatter
adlai: "you know, it's a bull market"
BingoBoingo: adlai gets the pun
shinohai: I forgot to add that hashtag to my tweet of your article earlier BingoBoingo, think I'll redo it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314764 << this, while factual, has A LOT more to do with the russian counter-embargo than with anything else.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:33:04; asciilifeform: 'I have heard from several people connected to European security circles that the illegal weapons market is completely sold out, with many dealers holding on to their weapons for their own personal use. This is a rumour, but since we have been forced to depend on hearsay for any real information right now, I tend to believe it.'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314786 << this is actually how it used to work. "gotta go to prison/jail/sleep with wife ? pay commoner to do it instead."
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:47:59; kakobrekla: "can i bring a few friends and we sit out the years in a month?"
kakobrekla: but it wasnt in parallel iirc?
mircea_popescu: well yeah, their computing wasn't advanced enouygh
assbot: Why don't people see the yeti any more? - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtFKQB )
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field
shinohai: mircea_popescu: in China I have heard this still occurs, you pay someone to serve your sentence for you.
kakobrekla: does it work for death sentence and do they take checks?
assbot: In China It's Common For The Wealthy To Hire Body Doubles To Avoid Prison - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtFYXN )
mircea_popescu: maybe yteah
mircea_popescu: i guess not even the chinese can tell the chinese apart.
shinohai: How sad I just noticed that gay-as-fuck heart shit in twitter now.
mircea_popescu: re mpex : there was a trade engine fart earlier, it's down atm, and will stay down for the rest of the day. going through the whole stack of cards thoroughly and will have moar infos by tomorrow.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: spread the love. it's a revolution
shinohai: pete_dushenski: I spread bitterness and discontent, that's what the internet is for.
shinohai: You're on my happy list, what you complaining about!
pete_dushenski: is the opposite the sad list ? the angry list ?
shinohai: That's the list of things that have *actual relevance* in todays online world.
pete_dushenski: *gasp* how dare you insinuate that i don't have actual relevance !
pete_dushenski: i'd expect that from my mother, but my cult ? what has this world become ??
pete_dushenski: /dramatism
mircea_popescu: apparently pete_dushenski needs a mistress
mircea_popescu: not enough drama in his lyf
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 04:05:32; mircea_popescu: the mistress is a very important surogate for the functional (ie, 3-4 wives) arrangement.
mircea_popescu: also for drama.
shinohai: Someone has to stir the pot/
pete_dushenski: well i seem pretty decent at making my own drama thus far
pete_dushenski: perhaps this edge will dull, at which time...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314798 << i wonder why the republic favour ascii armored over "binary"
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:55:26; adlai: too many false positives in --armor blocks
BingoBoingo: armored is eye readable before/after verification
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 14:56:06; asciilifeform: i still can't fathom why anybody with half a brain would voluntarily set foot in such a place
assbot: How I was wrong : Cuckolding, or a story about sigmas on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qa47Ed )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not optimized for your usec
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 15:00:42; asciilifeform: i would not be much surprised to discover that plaintext matching the description of a gpg sig is being silently massaged, at random, somewhere in the backbonez.
mircea_popescu: ase, but for netflix usecase.
mircea_popescu: why would you imagine THAT particular aspect of the charade is in so much better shape than all the others ? can'\t fucking compile, right ? why would you be able to tcp/ip ?
mircea_popescu: and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out for them ? ha.
mircea_popescu: a little bit of comfort for a short interval and then oblivion. this is how nature works.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 373.837804, vol: 77239.76012104 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 348.95, vol: 427.18736 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 371.2654, vol: 11.60030253 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 395.46864, vol: 117318.73700000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 371.0, vol: 28385.100767 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 370.0, vol: 497.55590088 | Volume-weighted last average: 384.756959479
mircea_popescu: maybe the slightly browner kids their sisters will have whether they want to or not will have better sense.
mircea_popescu: something tells me they will.
mircea_popescu: the battle for 400, eh BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For 400 euros
mircea_popescu: the difference is nigligible :D
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 411.02, vol: 77229.07498454 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 376.973, vol: 42579.68211 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 413.0, vol: 172230.05428862 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 407.0, vol: 11.60030253 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 432.5298, vol: 117462.04440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 406.58278, vol: 402.22741974 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 405.557, vol: 497.55590088 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 414.463709678
BingoBoingo: I dunno dollares need a whole second message
mircea_popescu can't remember if he had money on the 400 bet or not
BingoBoingo: I cunt remember either
deedbot-: [Qntra] Micon Gets Probation and $25,000 Fine - http://qntra.net/2015/11/micon-gets-probation-and-25000-fine/
mircea_popescu: what was this for, again ?
BingoBoingo: The seal with clubs thing
BingoBoingo: Operating it at all
mircea_popescu: oh, being online as a us citizen ?
mircea_popescu: hopefully teaches the rest of 'em a lesson.
mircea_popescu: go innovate under the bedsheets, yo.
BingoBoingo: Sure taught me one
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314824 << suppose instead of picturing, you do that then i can write in qntra about it ?
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 15:04:12; asciilifeform: (picture what would happen if you sent them a 'winning entry')
mircea_popescu: not the you you, the general you.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 16:49:15; jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 16:33:06; *: adlai has exceeded his daily allotment of manual sha1 preimage mining
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314864 << perousal. unless you meant something to do with penis tumescence.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 17:22:25; funkenstein_: also in "noob learning V ropes" news, patches for parousal: http://frass.woodcoin.org/dev/
shinohai: Have I been spelling that wrong all this time? Perusal ?
shinohai: shit
assbot: Fishes eat psychotropic seaweed to get high, shows new research World News Daily Report ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtTqLl )
shinohai: Now the dea will team uo with noaa and send agents down to confiscate all the seaweed.
jurov: shinohai lmaousal
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315227 << if it were wide-spectrum rot of this kind, the multi-GB turds i routinely move around would suffer bitrot
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 00:16:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not opti
asciilifeform: (they do not.)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315231 << you don't need that many orcs to turn a germany into an england
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 00:18:33; mircea_popescu: and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out fo
asciilifeform: see 'wasp' - how many maniacs does a city need running loose to stop all meaningful commerce..?
asciilifeform: even one can suffice.
asciilifeform: the particulars of the death of europe aside, the 'not so many people' thing boggles my mind. it is not unlike saying 'bullet is so small, how can an elephant die of it?!!'
jurov: first "wasps" from turkey arrived in germany 30 years ago . per your theory, it should lay in ruins already
asciilifeform: from one bullet, elephant visibly thrashed. now let's have ten.
asciilifeform: see also:
asciilifeform: !s rotherham
assbot: 9 results for 'rotherham' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rotherham
jurov: so? english lords did it, too
asciilifeform: which it
jurov: child abuse
jurov: and catholic teachers in ireland
asciilifeform: afaik they mainly 'did'... each other
jurov: and.. and...
jurov: but i guess this discussion is hopeless, goodnight
asciilifeform: i'll be the last to cry for the english, or for the germans, as they go into the woodchipper
asciilifeform: but does jurov like crossing countries off the map? at the end of the day, one has to live somewhere.
jurov: you do it, not me
asciilifeform: jurov would still agree to move to de ?
jurov: yes
asciilifeform takes off hat
mircea_popescu: im bashing rthe seaweed
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's not to get ? one would set food in the deathtraps for cunt.
asciilifeform: if the fish can, they must!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah, this!
mircea_popescu: and the bullet thing is nonsense. immigration only hurts low status males. it helps low status females, and high status everybody.
mircea_popescu: fuck the low status males, who the fuck said they get anything ?
mircea_popescu: if they didn't suck there wouldn'\t be immigration, they'd be out there enslaving africa.
mircea_popescu: they wanna be orwell, that's fine BUT it comes with a dulap and anal lube.
asciilifeform: afaik none of the migrant folks intend to work
mircea_popescu: and what, the "born in germany" derps do ?
mircea_popescu: work at wow, maybe.
asciilifeform: de still has actual industry
asciilifeform: (unlike usa)
mircea_popescu: again : if they had intended to work they would be out there shooting elephants.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it does, on account of romania making the parts. tyvm.
asciilifeform dimly aware of this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which parts ?
mircea_popescu: pretty much all brake assemblages used in "european" cars made in ro.
asciilifeform: siemens et al make silicon.
mircea_popescu: iirc poland and ukr make the drive trains etc.
mircea_popescu: yeah, in... china.
asciilifeform: nope. in de.
mircea_popescu: for what, prototyping ?
asciilifeform: and, iirc, the only modern cpu plant (amd's) outside of usa proper is in de (augsburg?)
asciilifeform: no cpu in cn.
asciilifeform: (of the x86 variety anyway)
mircea_popescu: anwyay. 100k engineers and techs is not this discussion.
mircea_popescu: 50 mn nobodies derping about "nordic system" up and down is this discussion.
mircea_popescu: germany took the eastern orcs 20 years ago, what did it do ?
asciilifeform: they worked.
mircea_popescu: like hell they did.
mircea_popescu: ask an actual german.
mircea_popescu: worked with the gab.
asciilifeform actually saw'em sweeping toilets in frankfurt and munich
asciilifeform: turks, that is
mircea_popescu: turks lol. east germanz.
asciilifeform: ah, them
mircea_popescu: yes them
asciilifeform: those, yes, afaik, sit around being sad.
asciilifeform: which is not entirely the same as rotherhaming
mircea_popescu: how exactly is ein berliner better than شيعي ?
asciilifeform: he doesn't rotherham ?
mircea_popescu: this is not better. this is worse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu sees rotherhaming as an essential public service. i don't grasp this. seems approximately as useful as locusts.
mircea_popescu: understand the fundaments of society : if you're confronted with a group of 100 idiot boys doing idiot shit, you go up to one of them, grab him by the hair and bash his head into a wall until he stops moving. problem solved. if however you run into a group of 100 idiot girls sitting around being weird, you rape one. problem also solved.
mircea_popescu: misbehaviour of the sort described in http://trilema.com/2015/how-is-it-the-end/ has its very well documented, well understood, perfectly funtional solution
assbot: How is it the end ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QakFMp )
mircea_popescu: violence.
mircea_popescu: there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police".
mircea_popescu: it's that violence without recourse is educative.
asciilifeform: speaking of locusts,
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314878 << lotta wishful thinking in there, of the exact sort that was supposed to be a solution for 1970s women.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 17:39:30; funkenstein_: trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc.
mircea_popescu: it didn't work for them. maybe it works for you, who knows.
asciilifeform: ^ found this little fella today.
asciilifeform: he's out of season, methinks
mircea_popescu: aww cute
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 02:02:42; mircea_popescu: there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police".
mircea_popescu: well, where does it rub ?
asciilifeform: !rated zfx
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asciilifeform: !rate zfx 1 new blood, lisp
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mircea_popescu: black mothers beat their children. black husbands beat their wives. brothers lay the smackdown on one another all the time, and teenaged females with overactive coyness stand a decent change to get a sweet sixteen gangbang. this all helps to maintain the society functional.
asciilifeform: !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.zfx.1:bc9c9005043f336af0a6ba4e952ef195291a3023e86906a98ccb238d97b8e95a
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for zfx with note: new blood, lisp
mircea_popescu: people love to derp about how easter island ecological collapse is an example of this and that,
mircea_popescu: rarely does it occur that "this is what happens when no preditors"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu posits usa city blacks as examples of 'functional' ?!!
mircea_popescu: guess what ? they have no propblem with immigration.
mircea_popescu: what is your definition of functional ?
zfx: thanks
mircea_popescu: it's what fucking health is. "an organism is healthy when all foreign bodies ingested are food."
zfx: can anyone recommend high-quality starting literature for studying electronics?
asciilifeform: zfx: horowitz & hill
zfx: got that on the way
mircea_popescu: electronics as what, a practical aplication ?
asciilifeform: zfx: but you will need basic school maths. if your education is seriously deficient, you may need forrest mims
zfx: well, I'm interested in some of the cpu reinvention ideas discussed here
mircea_popescu: L. D. Landau and E. M. Lifshitz, Electrodynamics in Continuous Media. hurr.
zfx: asciilifeform: how far is 'basic'?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: win
mircea_popescu: i dunno what he's asking, what can i say.
assbot: Full text of "Electrodynamics of Continuous Media" ... ( http://bit.ly/1QamPvJ )
asciilifeform: zfx: i must agree with mircea_popescu. thus far we have only the foggiest notion of what it is you'd like to accomplish
mircea_popescu: and in engluish no less.
zfx: asciilifeform: my lack of knowledge is somewhat robbing me of the ability to ask the right question...
mircea_popescu: eh, read that volume 8. can't be you're doing anything more important anyway.
asciilifeform: mega-recommended.
zfx: put it this way, I've spent a pretty long time working with software, but never dug into the hardware as far as I'd like to
mircea_popescu: (read, in the mathematical sense, is a specific thing. do all the work. especially the stuff towards the end of a chapter. ESPECIALLY.P)
zfx: certainly not far enough to read schematics and understand what I'm looking at
zfx: mircea_popescu: thanks, will read
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps surprisingly, i must take issue with the reductionist approach here. electrodynamics is to 'electronics' as fluid dynamics is to modern plumbing
mircea_popescu: ftr, ee without that is like jd without blackstone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta start somewhere!
zfx: can't hurt to understand the fundamentals
asciilifeform blows dust off blackstone
mircea_popescu: or pr without cicero
mircea_popescu: or on it goes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the time folks asking after 'electronics' 'just want to know' how to arrange the mosfets
mircea_popescu: yeah well fuck them.
zfx: that's not really my style
mircea_popescu: they wanna learn how to arrange mosfets, take a job in a tv repair shop for a summer.
asciilifeform doubts there are any discrete fets to be found in a modern tv
asciilifeform: but yes.
mircea_popescu: so go to cairo, take the job there.
shinohai: Guatemala still has old sets :D
asciilifeform: i'd expect sov. tube sets in cairo
mircea_popescu has observed person mill cylinder piston replacement by hand
asciilifeform: but perhaps i'm out of date
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cuba?
mircea_popescu: now i regret not buying them a tea
asciilifeform: re: cylinder, it is the lapping rather than the milling that is the tricky bit
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315017 << with one million gallons of fuel. what ?
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:13:22; jurov: ascii_field: how do you flamethrower million people?
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:17:49; ascii_field: or that if a million russians wanted to move in and rape, pillage, there would be the same welcome ?
asciilifeform: consult, e.g., the memoirs of one douglas mcarthur.
mircea_popescu: not "if". was there, saw that.
mircea_popescu: heck, the only reason putin can't get rid of the underworld like stalin did is PRECISELY that back in stalin's day they'd have been shot, but these days... welcomed.
asciilifeform: so nato is a scam ?
asciilifeform: somebody tell jurov.
mircea_popescu: dude seriously.
mircea_popescu: how could it NOT be a scam ?
mircea_popescu: you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ?
mircea_popescu: somehow it was "defeated" both times, notwithstanding that fuck you, bunch of idiots, you don't show up as per deal and then bitch about it five years later ?
mircea_popescu: poland got nearly wiped, on the strength of the same scam, also twice.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315028 << the orcs are accepted because if you don't fuck your wife, someone will.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:19:08; ascii_field: the orcs are welcome because they spread chaos and destroy the competition of usg
mircea_popescu: end of fucking story, no usg enters into any of it. binary choice, pick one : ( ) man ; ( ) boy.
asciilifeform: and if you don't burn down the church, someone else will ?
mircea_popescu: pretty much.
mircea_popescu: either you burn theirs or they burn yours.
asciilifeform: now this, yes.
mircea_popescu: for as long as italians aren't dropping nerve gas on eritrea,
asciilifeform: 'paris eats couscous'
mircea_popescu: eritreans will be going to rome.
asciilifeform: put in this notation, it is smashingly obvious.
mircea_popescu: and bitching notwithstanding, i will point out that this "send the women naked butt first" approach is so far working a lot better than the "we will resist behind the walls of vienna" 1100s stuff.
asciilifeform: iirc they dropped mustard gas
asciilifeform: but yes.
mircea_popescu: arguably a larger migratory wave than that one
mircea_popescu: (recall my discussion of china and how it keeps creating these waves that smash europe ?)
mircea_popescu: that's the deep driver here. the us isn't even on the map.
mircea_popescu: china is strongly centralizing again, the nomads are going west.
mircea_popescu: pushing western tribes further west
asciilifeform: as i understand, cn is only involved in the sense that it is impervious to the usg orc-pushing current
mircea_popescu: at least this time they don't have a leader. yet they are very well connected.
mircea_popescu: which is why the politruks are so affraid to move.
mircea_popescu: god fucking help the lot if they do actually get a leader.
mircea_popescu: 100 man "special forces" teams are impressive on tv, owing to the poor quality of the camera as a perception mechanism.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, the us got wiped, by a smaller force.
asciilifeform: last i heard, it wasn't the chinese who flattened syria
mircea_popescu: o, right, right... it was... wait for it... REBELS
mircea_popescu: herpy derp. the us couldn't recruit 5 of those.
mircea_popescu: how come the fucking rebels were in syria rather than in fucking japan ?
asciilifeform: (though it may well have been cn who airdropped brand new ipnohes)
mircea_popescu: dude. the pakis pushed west.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck do you think flattened syria if not a bunch of hardcore dudes that have been training against the "coallition" scarecrows for a decade ?
mircea_popescu: they don't wanna live in rome, they wanna live in lebanon. they don't like your women, they like those.
mircea_popescu: because much less shit to explain, they mostly get it.
asciilifeform: but in rome/berlin/stockholm there is payola.
mircea_popescu: "isis" is a conveyor belt. it reduces tectonics by moving people west.
mircea_popescu: fuck the payola. you think pashtun wants it ?!
asciilifeform: sure he does.
mircea_popescu: like hell. this is your "usg matters" delusion speaking.
asciilifeform: (or what is he doing in rotherham ?)
mircea_popescu: try it, offer me some.
mircea_popescu: they're different people. the people colonising england and the people beheading us "soldiers" are maybe born from the same mother,
mircea_popescu: but they are different people.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:25:14; ascii_field: no worries, the caliphate will rediscover the art of picturesque capital punishment in eu.
mircea_popescu: i'd even consider moving.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:41:28; jurov: i suspect it will end up like wwii, it will be *very* different germany as before, but everyone will still envy it
mircea_popescu: the magical thing about societal collapse is that meh, whatever. women are still usable anyway.
asciilifeform: worked great in ptolemaic egypt ?
asciilifeform: (i dare say not)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315072 << don't be silly! you're basically arguing ohio state is contiguous with indian ohio.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:42:09; ascii_field: jurov: wwii did not involve a population replacement in de
asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu confess that he'd much rather have the tall lanky pharaonic folks than the present crop of orcsen
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the greeks weren't enough. that's the thing with them, from anabasis onwards : never fucking enough
mircea_popescu: what i'd rather doesn't enter into it. i would rather the "civilised" world burn than continue.
mircea_popescu: yes, i'd much rather that this burning happens in the consciousness of the derps involved,
mircea_popescu: but fancy the odds of that.
mircea_popescu: trinque is he uypset ?
trinque: there's crap at the end of it, which is probably why
trinque: I parse me inputs!
mircea_popescu: good boy!
felipelalli: deedbot- hates me :)
trinque: just hack off that end bit and I expect it will work
mircea_popescu: felipelalli you added stuff at the end
deedbot-: accepted: 1
felipelalli: Ah! I'm sorry.
trinque: felipelalli: I just did it for ya :)
trinque: lol!
mircea_popescu: !up Krystyl
mircea_popescu: basically you need a pgp key (do you have one ?) and register it with assbot
felipelalli: trinque, thank you!
Krystyl: do not have one
felipelalli: trinque, but I need that stuff in the end. Should I re-sign the entire message? It will work?
mircea_popescu: Krystyl well then get gpg and make one.
deedbot-: accepted: 1
felipelalli: nice! thank you trinque
mircea_popescu: Krystyl are you twitter.com/krystyl incidentally ?
Krystyl: nope not me
Krystyl: I think I need to look into this more because I have no idea what pgp & gpg are........
mircea_popescu: are you on windows ?
Krystyl: yes
felipelalli: first step: use Linux! :)
mircea_popescu: what was it, winpgp ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phakt: M_DEBUG in gpg-1.4 never worked
mircea_popescu: www.gpg4win.org/ < there we go
assbot: Gpg4win - Secure email and file encryption with GnuPG for Windows ... ( http://bit.ly/1iC37et )
asciilifeform: explodes into a fiery hell
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heh
asciilifeform: the way in which it is written suggests that it ~once~ worked but was mutilated.
asciilifeform: (by whom? i do not know.)
asciilifeform replacing the whole bloody mess with own allocator
trinque: felipelalli | nice! thank you trinque << quite welcome
asciilifeform laments having to do this
felipelalli: goodbye guys, good to see you again!
mod6: asciilifeform: you wanna give my changes to V a try? http://dpaste.com/0BE564M.txt
asciilifeform: mod6: this looks nifty, sign & post to ml ?
mod6: yeah, wanna test it a bit more before.. but by the end of the weekend for sure.
asciilifeform doesn't like running items that no one has signed
mod6: the changes should make it so that you don't need Graph::Easy until you wanna run the "g" or "graph" command.
mod6: that's fine.
asciilifeform: mod6's 'v' is nice'n'polished
mod6: thx! i'll post this change here as soon as I get everything bundled up and the docs altered.
adlai: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-03/that-time-i-tried-to-buy-some-crude-oil "Kaminska insists on paying me by blockchain, the digital ledger system that is currently all the rage on Wall Street."
assbot: That Time I Tried to Buy an Actual Barrel of Crude Oil - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1iC6wKq )
mod6: <+funkenstein_> mod6 ,thanks for the script :D << np
mircea_popescu: that name seems familiar.\
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ? << Scammed by "Dallas"
mircea_popescu: howssat ?
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b37
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That 80's TV show. They didn't want other arrangements. They wanted Texas's loving arms and ended up with a bunch of empty Yankee promises.
deedbot-: [Trilema] The war of the Roses - http://trilema.com/2015/the-war-of-the-roses/
BingoBoingo: Allies with planes their existing stock beats in exercises and whatnot
BingoBoingo: !up robotnum1
robotnum1: thank you
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts?
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 436.07, vol: 81086.89608211 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 393.803, vol: 43587.99041 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 440.0, vol: 183349.6136867 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.0, vol: 16.01906461 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 462.650158, vol: 118724.88190000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 415.0, vol: 361.2682475 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 416.252, vol: 537.15643628 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 440.782865035
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 397.78497, vol: 81212.59885246 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 369.47, vol: 445.76416 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 388.025, vol: 16.01906461 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 423.8038, vol: 118675.86920000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 390.0, vol: 30793.0272735 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 380.0, vol: 537.15643628 | Volume-weighted last average: 409.981740163
BingoBoingo: Seriously nigligible difference
BingoBoingo: 400 euros
robotnum1: so how many of you are short at this moment?
BingoBoingo: Das not a very polite question, but I'm about 5'7"
robotnum1: no one know how long this bubble is gonna last. I wish i knew
robotnum1: or rather where it is gonna do a U-turn
kakobrekla: around the moon, naturally
BingoBoingo: And then to mars
BingoBoingo: Not a U-turn, this isn't Missouri so not legal here. A gravity assisted slingshot.
robotnum1: our of this solar system i suppose
robotnum1: oout*
BingoBoingo: Mebbe?
mircea_popescu: !up wpalczynski
mircea_popescu: <robotnum1> so how many of you are short at this moment? << i would be surprised if anyone is short btc.
BingoBoingo: robotnum1: I've got a movie about market crashes to psych you up if you are short: "My Name is Bill W", has James Woods, not bad for made for tv
assbot: JL: They Came from Cosmo! ... ( http://bit.ly/1QaFG9O )
robotnum1: no im not short. im undecided
BingoBoingo: Prolly the best movie about the 1929 crash out there
robotnum1: youtubing
BingoBoingo: just torrent it already. Youtube is nothing but flash and google virii orfice
BingoBoingo: !up robotnum1
ben_vulpes: ahaha wut spike lee thinks he's doing lysistrata
assbot: When a 127-Year-Old U.S. Industry Collapses Under China's Weight - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1QaGT0Z )
ben_vulpes: spacey and chappelle!
asciilifeform: what are those ?
ben_vulpes: things that don't exist in your world iirc
asciilifeform: where might one find them ?
ben_vulpes: perhaps google? imdb might tell of them.
phf: spike lee is making a movie with spacey and chappelle? :o
ben_vulpes: anyone know which contravex piece slit the "car reportering" scam open?
BingoBoingo: !up robotnum1
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