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assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 04:29:40; phf: re watches, мы время знаем / в деревне без больших сует / желудок - верный наш брегет
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform waitwut ?!
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform spoke to brother
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mircea_popescu: o wait. now i understand.
mircea_popescu: it segmented wrongly.
asciilifeform: 'the hookers churchill and stalin...'
assbot: DEA Recruitment Hurts Texas Trucking Co. | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLyOxa )
mircea_popescu: romanian has an entire chapter dedicated to these. the fundamental attribution error, in romanian, is the confusion between 2nd line attribute and agent-complement
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have the mega-canonical 'казнить нельзя помиловать'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313566 << i might have said this before, and ben_vulpes can no doubt explain it better still, but apple makes two entirely separate classes of thing, even if sometimes they are contained in a single box
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:47:46; mircea_popescu: "What is actually going on is that Apple is attempting to signal to the derps who willingly buy their fashion goods that actual rich people also buy those things." etc
mircea_popescu: waiter, yelling out the order to cook : "la domnu' porc, la doamna vaca si la domnisoara-n fund un castravete."
asciilifeform: idiot statusatronics,
mircea_popescu: (to the gent, pork, to the lady, veal, and to the miss in the back, a pickle.)
asciilifeform: and the-ONLY-MOTHERFUCKING-PORTABLE-COMPS-THAT-WORK
mircea_popescu: (to mr pig, to mrs cow and up the girl's butt, a pickle)
asciilifeform falls down
mircea_popescu: "I'm an economics major who doesn't know what the hell he is going to do for a career after graduating, and frankly doesn't feel qualified to do very much. I went into university thinking that I would try for medical school, but I was one of those kids in high school who got good grades without trying very hard, and my nearly non-existent study habits have left me with a C average, although even that has been slipping
mircea_popescu: lately. Now that I'm nearing the end of my academic career, I'm starting to freak out about my career potential, and the related anxiety has me neglecting school work even further."
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: "My fiancee is pushing me away and I've lost hope" ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLzEKr )
mircea_popescu: this is what you get for stopping bullying.
asciilifeform: a warm welcome awaits him here in butugychag.
mircea_popescu: this fuckhead should have been getting atomic whirlies and shitwedgies for 20 hours a day until he killed himself aged 15.
asciilifeform: if these are subvarieties of thrashing - then yes
mircea_popescu: sadly they're the pathetic us passive-agressive reinterpretations thereof.
asciilifeform had to go and look both of'em up
asciilifeform: 'It started with Mortimer J Adler and his 'How to Read a Book'. I bought it about two years ago, and shortly after that time I became fixated on the idea of getting a liberal education and reading the Great Books.' >> blatant ripoff of http://mazepath.com/uncleal/think.htm
assbot: THINKING ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLzZN9 )
mircea_popescu: the obnoxious thing is that tlp fucking coddles the fucktard.
asciilifeform: (this circa 1997. for some reason the copy on his www omits the date)
mircea_popescu: "go kill yourself. now. this is the best thing any specialist could ever tell you, and the only thing that you really should hear, from anyone. you are an unfortunately failed experiment in biocombinatorics. end it already, it's both uninteresting and wasteful."
mircea_popescu: this acting like every vessel that didn't happen to get a soul at fill-up is nevertheless full and should be given attention... sigh.
mircea_popescu: EVEN IF they find some way to "fix it" what they'll have found is a way to make empty bottles fake fullness for longer than anyone'd care to inquire.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to fix here. these aren't problems people get. these are problems things trying to masquerade as people get.
asciilifeform: 'To this day I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night. It reached down and cupped me in Its hands, lifting me up from my hole. As I sank to the ground clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. "Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?" it asked. You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker's Anonymous poster.'
mircea_popescu: wager of battle.
mircea_popescu: i wager no fucking higher power would as much as sneeze on this one.
BingoBoingo: The stories at Thinker's Anonymous have to suck
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assbot: A New Detox—for Drunken Bears | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWPRwK )
asciilifeform: fucking eurorasts
asciilifeform: first they ban old fashioned bear baiting, before long it'll be mandatory patek philip and butt piracy for everyone
BingoBoingo: Seriously.Though it would be something to see a bear holding hands in a circle growling out a serenity prayer.
BingoBoingo: Bears are supposed to be a measure of culture though. If meet a bear and it mauls you your culture sucks. If you meet a bear and it shares your booze, your culture is enlightened. If the bear buggers you stop hanging around furries.
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assbot: Grizzly Bear Gets All Harsh With Stoner | The Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWRytS )
BingoBoingo: Apparently bear fight like the morbidly obese: "According to court records, Hopkins went to feed the bears, which was part of his job. “He entered the bear pen and began to place food out. Once inside, nothing separated him from the bears. At some point while Hopkins was working, the largest bear, Red, attacked him. The bear knocked Hopkins to the ground, sat on him, and bit his leg, knee and rear-end."
BingoBoingo: !up coercively
mircea_popescu: !up coercively
mircea_popescu: who might you be ?
coercively: Idk. Random.
coercively: Somehow wandered here on my very inspirational journey of ircing.
fluffypony: it's just ircing on the cake
fluffypony: that's all I got
fluffypony: not enough coffee
fluffypony: awwww he quit
ben_vulpes: full stop
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: are you familiar with grindwork?
mircea_popescu: badoing kssss
assbot: Bizarre - Henny Youngman - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GWVxqu )
assbot: Linus’s Rant Rewritten ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnWqsH )
mircea_popescu: The reason I think women are hot today is that they are today, not that they are hot. I watch pornos from the seventies and I think to myself, "well, it would be better than bestiality, I guess."
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY.
mircea_popescu: "Disclaimer: I am not a kernel programmer, so I may have am certain I have misinterpreted some of the technical aspects of Linus’s original post."
mircea_popescu: yet i am a self-deluded imbecile, who imagines she still has something to say in spite of that.
mircea_popescu: for fucks sake these dumb bitches. \
mircea_popescu: YO STUPID WOMEN : SHUT THE FUCK UP. nobody, really, literally, nobody wants to see or hear you. the kitchen is good enough.
mircea_popescu: stop giving feminism a bad name.
assbot: CDE: Lightweight application virtualization for Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnYbWE )
ben_vulpes: wheee
ben_vulpes: punkman: ^^
ben_vulpes: running it anywhere?
punkman: ben_vulpes: not yet but seems like it might come in handy
ben_vulpes: > nasty-bash-hack.txt
assbot: Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2015 Report | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnZ81j )
assbot: Botnet Takes Over Twitch Install and Partially Installs Gentoo - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnZeWH )
punkman: lol
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 328.5, vol: 14099.29617567 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 311.302, vol: 15677.1435 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 332.55, vol: 27391.45060369 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 339.99, vol: 2.88929293 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 351.279968, vol: 44889.58240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 317.0, vol: 63.84609024 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 297.177661027, vol: 51.8480377 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 336.932289429
mircea_popescu: lol @eth's strange week...
mircea_popescu: from 1.x to 4 then to 3 then rebound then... then what ?
mircea_popescu: but hey, hope springs eternally.
mircea_popescu: on 4 oct, last time it was 3, the "mkt cap" was 50mn. now 80mn. because sure, 60% inflation month to month, this works now.
mircea_popescu: supposedly there exist suckers buying into this. like supposedly there existed suckers buying into the original "sale". right-o.
BingoBoingo: Oh shit
ben_vulpes gaily refuses to give a shit about ethereum
ben_vulpes: i met vitalik when he was just writing and like a 19 year old college student
ben_vulpes: very pimply, upon recollection.
BingoBoingo: Very swift was Buterin's fall from writing like a 19 year old to writing like a 29 year old desperate to keep the VC cock interested in his fading twink looks so he could keep up the gay for pay
ben_vulpes: goodness bb
BingoBoingo: I'm sober and its Sunday, grumpy is my primary feel and venom my primary language atm
BingoBoingo: !s See the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny.
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BingoBoingo: But for srs, isn't that the Startup incubators eating college kids racket in a nutshell. 19 year old buterin taking it in the ass for money. Aged as though he's thirty he can't the the VC money, he gets the crack rock every fifth blowie in an alley money.
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assbot: Australia drops knights and dames, again - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHu8cb )
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 07:15:28; BingoBoingo: Very swift was Buterin's fall from writing like a 19 year old to writing like a 29 year old desperate to keep the VC cock interested in his fading twink looks so he could keep up the gay for pay
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davout: bonjour #b-a
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assbot: On block sizes — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1KSOCcN )
davout: btcdrak: the "chinese translation here" is pretty lulzy too
btcdrak: "In talking with miners and companies, one thing I’m hearing repeatedly is “we will wait for the second conference in December. If there’s no progress by then, we’ll switch to BIP 101”.
btcdrak: that is a complete lie.
btcdrak: What he means is a few companies that dont even run their own full nodes but have millions in VC capital have said they support BIP101
btcdrak: Mike is an outright liar.
btcdrak: in fact, most of what he's written in that article is an outright lie
davout: and obviously, most of these stances are taken by the marketing derps, while the actual people who actually hold their business together are too busy not caring and working on actual problems anyway
btcdrak: !up BashCo
davout: "Bitcoin XT: a project run by two men who already shipped a compromise solution that reflects the demands of miners, users and companies." <<< it strikes me as weird then that "users", "miners", and "companies" aren't running it, why could it be?
davout: micro-conspiruhcee
btcdrak: the whole thing is so crass
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 11:06:23; btcdrak: can you smell the desperation now? https://medium.com/@octskyward/on-block-sizes-e047bc9f830#.eflnvw6u2
shinohai: Not like anyone is twisting anyone's arm and forcing them to run core, or anything else for that matter.
btcdrak: mircea_popescu: BashCo is a r/bitcoin moderator
shinohai: BashCo is also involved in changetip or somesuch iirc
shinohai: !gettrust BashCo
assbot: BashCo is not registered in WoT.
shinohai: Hardly surprising.
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/puZWjVZ.png <<< Impossible, how can you carve such a mass from a single block of wood?
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mircea_popescu: btcdrak BashCo hi theee
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assbot: Ransomware decryptor | Kaspersky Lab ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixLlck )
mircea_popescu: nowai ?>
punkman: "The ransomware authors are arrested and all existing keys have been added to our database."
shinohai: r/dogecoin lulz "yay we matter! skids want to get paid in our scamcoinz!" https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/3r51o8/anime_streaming_website_got_hacked_hackers_want/
assbot: Anime streaming website got hacked, hackers want dogecoin for database information. : dogecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixLpsw )
mircea_popescu: impressive.
shinohai: oct. 28 0.o
punkman: https://twitter.com/aannggeellll/status/573186044083900416 "Yay! Yay everyone! I got a new arm! #Cyborg step one: complete."
mircea_popescu: but can jack off with it ?
punkman: a lot of people are wondering
mircea_popescu: "The Heart Attack Grill in Las Vegas, Nev., has come under scrutiny since one of its patrons suffered an actual heart attack while eating a Triple Bypass Burger there earlier this week."
mircea_popescu: "There is no information there. It is there in order for you to talk about it-- so you have something to talk to others about, through a screen darkly or face to face, because if it weren't for these meaningless media stories which includes all partisan politics people would have nothing to say to each other, and society's collapse into hikikomori narcissism would be total. Which is why it is correct to say that pop
mircea_popescu: culture isn't a symptom of our dying society, it is its heroic measures."
mircea_popescu: word. "why can't i quit pop culture ?" "because to you it's a solution, not a problem."
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo pretty much it yeah.
mircea_popescu: hola davout
davout: ave
mircea_popescu: <btcdrak> Mike is an outright liar. << this is neither surprising nor remarkable by this point.
mircea_popescu: eagerly awayting the amir taaki - mike what's his name NEWTHEREUM!!11 next spring.
davout: that he still *is*, is.
mircea_popescu: <davout> "Bitcoin XT: a project run by two men << who are the men ?!
mircea_popescu: davout what exactly are they gonna do, go take up gardening ?
mircea_popescu: fade into an alt scam, a la keiser ?
mircea_popescu: punkman so far bitcoin is batting 0 / 2 for "criminal anonimity" is it.
davout: anything!
davout: just not the same retarded stuff, "but nao with chinese translashun!1"
punkman: mircea_popescu: it's not so bad for the competent, is it?
mircea_popescu: so far there's been "o noes drug market!11"
mircea_popescu: got closed down
mircea_popescu: "we encrypt your hdd, pay btc".
mircea_popescu: got closed down
mircea_popescu: all the pants wetting about "Assasination markets" and whatnot is probably misplaced.
mircea_popescu: i assassinated buterin, lolski, derpersson, whoever. no need for a "market".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile dumbass white kids in montana can't get laid with or without assistance, what markets.
mircea_popescu: seems the entire "bitcoin is for crymynalzzzz" is more of the same "i wish i was cool, maybe if i put this hat on ?"
shinohai would not be surprised to hear of XThereum soon http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313837
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 13:55:14; mircea_popescu: eagerly awayting the amir taaki - mike what's his name NEWTHEREUM!!11 next spring.
mircea_popescu: it's like the matrix, see. take the red pill of escaping censorship into the loving embrace of the nsa ofshots!
punkman: mircea_popescu: also "I wish I was rich, maybe if I had an offshore trust"
mircea_popescu: you wanna be rich, get a better dad.
mircea_popescu: no better dad, BE the better dad.
mircea_popescu: "If you want to watch these invisible unconscious defenses play out right in front of you, in real time, in a real way, watch an adult American try to learn a second language.
mircea_popescu: Short of cauterizing your own genitals, nothing seems like it would change who you are like speaking in an-other's language. Blech, I'd rather wear someone else's underwear, no thanks, I'll take the 12 credits but no way am I retaining anything."
mircea_popescu: ahaha is it ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313820 << oh for fuxsake, did you READ the analysis ?
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 13:22:47; punkman: "The ransomware authors are arrested and all existing keys have been added to our database."
asciilifeform: these were TARDS
asciilifeform: as in, folks who write virii in 'dotnet'
mircea_popescu: ofcoursetheywere.
mircea_popescu: this is the overarching point. idiot : "bitcoin empowers idiots just like me". no, it doesn't.
mircea_popescu: it actually disempowers idiots just like you.
mircea_popescu: "so then what hope for anarcho-syndicalism is there ???" you mean that enchanted land where you don't have to work because you're somehow rich and yet idiots being rich does not degrade richdom ? plus you have "all the choices" but never have to take one to get there ? "yes!!!!"
asciilifeform: https://securelist.com/blog/virus-watch/67699/a-nightmare-on-malware-street << their paper re: 'coinvault' (one of the two trojans in question.) good for some lulz for mats, diametric, and anybody else who goes in for this
assbot: A Nightmare on Malware Street - CoinVault - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1k4H2XH )
mircea_popescu: can't help you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda too lazy to read, but what did they do, caught some derp's gf's mother's (she was underage) cc on coinbase or what.
shinohai: LOLZ
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: describes only the exe
mircea_popescu: my laziness is well placed.
asciilifeform: but given what it describes, the idiot prolly confessed on some phorum
asciilifeform: (everything build with vs, plenty of identifying strings littered therein, as is the custom, uses hardcoded dns turds, etc.)
asciilifeform: the one thing i don't get is why the fuck these people never set up a btc node on the victim's box
mircea_popescu: i suppose "an actual cryptovault you will never, ever crack" goes into the pile of things the republic is going to strike back with if rattled enough.
asciilifeform: for 'i've been paid' sensor AND pubkey download
mircea_popescu: not like you can't make one of these as an actual autonomous system sitting in hdd cpu
asciilifeform just described the recipe for it above.
mircea_popescu: could be a spv wallet even. it just checks for a speciffic address being paid, derived from the key.
asciilifeform: trivial.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it goes on the to-do list once someone myseriously disappears.
asciilifeform searches in vain for the logz where he described ~how~ malware artists typically get caught
asciilifeform: (short version: it is almost inevitably by being 'part of th3 l337 sc3n3!!! k00l d00dz!!1111' or any variant thereof)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and you prolly meant 'derives the decryption key from the payment tx'
asciilifeform: because that is how this is done.
mircea_popescu: well... rsa is malleable, right ? :D
asciilifeform: (not from the luser's tx, but from a second one, where the robot on the artist's end moves the coin)
mircea_popescu: mmm not really want any moving parts do you.
asciilifeform: the decryption key cannot be in the luser's house.
asciilifeform: because that is retarded.
asciilifeform: nor ought there be a 'c&c' box in the usual sense of one that is ever connected to by the trojan.
mircea_popescu: binaryatrocity you're leaking ip.
asciilifeform: whole thing is a trivial example of 'can operate entirely as a small patch on a bitcoind'
mircea_popescu: no, not really.
mircea_popescu: whole thing is a trivial example of WHY usg doth not want a sane bitcoind, ie, a 700kb one./
mircea_popescu: a statically linkable one. etc.
asciilifeform: too late, l0l
mircea_popescu: it specializes in being too late.
asciilifeform: the only reason this is not already sop is that loading a 40GB blockchain is rather conspicuous, even on a lamer's box
mircea_popescu: you don't need the chain.
asciilifeform: (and doing anything short of this opens you up to trickery)
davout: ..."
davout: whoops
asciilifeform: you need the chain for the same reason the rest of us need the chain
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mircea_popescu: whyssat ?
asciilifeform: to avoid being relocated to a parallel universe ?
mircea_popescu: no. but ima take this to encrypted.
punkman: why does parallel universe matter? local app must find the key in blockchain, verification is when the key works
asciilifeform bbl, off to fill the party's daily uranium quota for the nth five-year plan
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mircea_popescu: inexplicably, tlp doesn't think Kristen Wiig is funny
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mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/05/thank_god_the_heart_attack_gri.html << pretty great explanation on how psychological defenses work.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Thank God The 'Heart Attack Grill' Is A Great Name; Also, How To Learn French ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixW46v )
mircea_popescu: "Take a look at Brandon. When media wants to depict a sex addict they depict the wealthy, the good looking, the powerful, the well hung. There are plenty of slimy basement dwelling janitor sex addicts out there, but they are represented as sex offenders. There are also plenty of gay sex addicts out there, but they are represented as gay. Both of you are dismissed, the world has no time for your nonsense. The sex a
mircea_popescu: ddicts we see in movies and on the news are: rock stars, politicians, sports guys, CEOs. If you think about the demo primed to receive this depiction of lothario as sex addict-- women over 35, i.e. the demo for Shame-- sex addiction needs to be seen as terrible because it is terrible for them. It may also be terrible for the sex addict, but fuck you, we have a society to run."
mircea_popescu: or, "how the women nobody can be bothered to fuck anymore are getting into everyone's business any chance they get".
mircea_popescu: "i know nothing about how kernels work but i'm 36 and i don't think the nielsen box in my house does enough to mess up society - here's some rephrasing i've done in my mysteriously abundant spare time"
mircea_popescu: " Sex addiction rarely breaks laws so it can't be punished, and there's no God so the immorality of it is debatable, i.e. inconsequential. It must be a disease, that way other people don't want to catch it. All psychiatric treatment of constructed syndromes isn't about cure but about regression to the mean, where mean= cubicle drone. " not even, just... please believe that monogynous fambly is the only fambly and it
mircea_popescu: really makes more sense for you to buy her a diamond than for her to turn tricks and bring you the money.
davout: imma read the article, this way i'll get to skip one third of the log :D
mircea_popescu: i think it might be about three or four different oens tho
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/03/shame_is_the_desired_outcome.html << ayup, definitely. old farts trying to maintain relevancy by controlling the fucking activities of adolescents ? check.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Shame Is The Desired Outcome ... ( http://bit.ly/1ixZ2Ip )
mircea_popescu: "That's the trick of Shame. "He's an attractive, wealthy, guy with a big penis (did you see it, ladies?) but he's not using it properly..." Brandon's sex addiction makes him very un-desirable, no one watches Shame and says, "wow, I want to be Brandon" and no woman says, "wow, I want to be with Brandon." The opposite is true for Tucker Max, who is popular with women, especially the very women that he "degrades." Now
mircea_popescu: what does the system do?
mircea_popescu: There's only one thing it can do: say that these women don't know better, that they're broken women from broken homes... that they're not real women."
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shinohai: Just what the doctor ordered.
thestringpuller: ^- makes me think of dr. dre
shinohai: Dr. Dre would be in agreement with me on booty I am almost certain.
assbot: — OH MY FUCKING GOD ... ( http://bit.ly/1iy0BG6 )
mircea_popescu: (psa : if you're female, in your 20s and ~couldn't~ replace either girl at my option, you fail at life. practice more, this is important. reading jezbel is not.)
thestringpuller: hearn's newest article is so desperate, I can taste the fear.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3WN40WF.txt
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: how's the pluranium mines
davout: the smell from afar is going to be more than enough for me
asciilifeform continues on the way.
mircea_popescu: mayhap you're right.
thestringpuller: /wind 10
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mircea_popescu: !up keyless
mircea_popescu: !up iinaj
keyless: just listening today (mike_c at work). Don't have my key accessible.
assbot: Antarctica is actually gaining ice, says NASA. Is global warming over? - CSMonitor.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmuZEN )
keyless: for all the climate deniers in the room.
mircea_popescu: wait, we deny there's a climate ?
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: "This is how I know that anyone who says, "If only I could live in Mad Men time where you could pinch a girl's ass and not get in trouble for it" is going to be way disappointed if a TARDIS shows up, because they wouldn't pinch them back then, either, not because they are afraid of trouble but because they are afraid of girls. Exhibit A: you know what a TARDIS is."
mircea_popescu: motherfucker i only know what it is because i looked it up because you're fucking obsessed with it.
ascii_field was never able to fully hold in laughter when hearing of 'tardis'
mircea_popescu: hot damn.
mircea_popescu: never read blogs, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!
ascii_field: (turned out, it was a time machine from an ancient british tv series where a multiverse-travelling demigod picks up british chix and fights alien vermin etc)
mircea_popescu: ftr : i've been here over a year and i've not pinched a single butt (the plain variety - on the street, uknown - let's not get into perversion) because a) they're short and b) they're petrified.
ascii_field: holy fuck
mircea_popescu: ascii_field wasn't it in that time traveling british thing with the guy with wild hair and the two kids ?
ascii_field: gcc 5.2 won't build gpg 1.4.
mircea_popescu: well yes
ascii_field falls down.
ascii_field: and not only,
assbot: [linux] older LTS kernels are not compatible to gcc 5.1 · Issue #12 · manjaro/packages-core · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmwToR )
ascii_field: and fuck knows what and where else.
mircea_popescu: 5 branch was... revolutionary.
ascii_field: since when was this even considered acceptable by anybody with two braincells - for version n of a compiler to refuse to build something which n-epsilon did happily build ??!
mircea_popescu: what, you think systemd happened in a vacuum ?
ascii_field: it happened on that other planet where folks derp about 'desktop linux' and configure their boxes with mice etc
mircea_popescu: the strange idea being that they want to "fix" the kernel
mircea_popescu: !s Philip Müller
assbot: 0 results for 'Philip M�ller' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Philip+M%FCller
mircea_popescu: surprising.
ascii_field: wai wat
assbot: gnupg Update Needed (Build Failure with GCC) - Phoronix Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1kmxrLt )
ascii_field: gotta love it, 'update needed!!11111'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i don't know this face
mircea_popescu: what shall i answer to the who ?
ascii_field: müller
mircea_popescu: right but i mean you don't know the face you don't know the name, i guess "nobody" ?
mircea_popescu: some overenthusiastic derp, next in line to be hearn/poettering/blabla ?
ascii_field: evidently.
ascii_field: funny how the mug shot looks quite like poettering's
ascii_field: must be a 'secret handshake' of a kind.
mircea_popescu: what, being german ? the new black ?
mircea_popescu: 9 in 10 immigrant moslems agree.
mircea_popescu: they got a whole system down there i hear, hussies babymomma while derps fuck up linux and wash dishes in the buff.
mircea_popescu: "the nordic system"
ascii_field: how do we say 'la illah ila allah muhammad rasul allah' in de ?
ascii_field: the no-dick system
mircea_popescu: hahahaa apt!
mircea_popescu: up there they got dat nodick system yo!
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asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: https://securelist.com/analysis/publications/72087/the-shade-encryptor-a-double-threat << example of ransomware written by folks who aren't retarded
assbot: The Shade Encryptor: a Double Threat - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6gBxz )
ascii_field: (or, at least, palpably ~less~ retarded than earlier example)
thestringpuller: ascii_field: My Russian piano teacher enjoys your writing.
ascii_field: l0lwut
thestringpuller: i printed off your best bash's and showed them to him, and he was quite amused
thestringpuller: and he asked, "Is he Russian?"
ascii_field: which would these be
thestringpuller: i also asked him what a kolhoz, and he looked at me funny and said, "Those haven't existed in a long time. Although we are probably in one right now."
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1P2QATT.txt )
assbot: TeslaCrypt 2.0 disguised as CryptoWall - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1iyi1m9 )
ascii_field: 'The AES-256-CBC algorithm is used to encrypt files; all files are encrypted with the same key... In spite of the scary stories about RSA-2048 shown to victims, this encryption algorithm is not used by the malware in any form... The AES-256-CBC algorithm is used to encrypt files; all files are encrypted with the same key.'
ascii_field: last quote was, rather,
ascii_field: 'C&C servers are located on the Tor network; the malware communicates with the C&Cs via public tor2web services.'
ascii_field: and even 'Versions 0.2.5 – 0.3.x saved the decryption key (with other data) in their own service file, key.dat. The area containing the key was zeroed out in the file only after completing encryption, making it possible to save the key by interrupting the encryptor’s operation (e.g., by turning off the computer). After this, the key could be extracted from key.dat and used to decrypt all files.'
ascii_field: in other nyooz,
assbot: Xen Patches VM Escape Vulnerability | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6ibiT )
ascii_field: what, the... 5th? FULL motherfucking vm escape this year ??
ascii_field: and these are just the burned ones.
deedbot-: [Trilema] How is it the end ? - http://trilema.com/2015/how-is-it-the-end/
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'Worse, cynicism and aspirational branding aren't two opposite ends of a pole, they form a cycle: the chasm between your cynical view of real life and the perfect definition of the aspirational images in ads makes you even more cynical towards real life; which drives you further into the safety of branding. Which is why you drink.' << y'know, i'd appreciate tlp moar if he were not talking, in every odd
ascii_field: paragraph, to some demented mutants who i neither ever were nor ever met nor ever expect to meet
ascii_field: i will admit, i would never even have known wtf is a 'patek philip' if not for tlp...
mircea_popescu: im trying, but he's not easily digestible.
mircea_popescu: one major problem is that he has some major fuctardry embedded. another one is that he insists in using shitty references.
mircea_popescu: yet another is the discoursive style - it's as if he never actually went to school.
mircea_popescu: which i guess he didn't, us college.
ascii_field: he assumes that (what he passes off as - i cannot compare it with any objective reality that i can access) usa 'pop culture' is a thing
ascii_field: a thing in the objective sense
mircea_popescu: myeah. disentangling this dead dependency is, i will want to point out, just as much a cognitive nightmare as fixing shit to compile with inane gcc or w/e
ascii_field can see it
mircea_popescu: btw : my first impulse when you made that quote was omfg i left it out of my last article, it should be in there! mad chase ensues to find it in source material, by the time i have contextualizatio0n ready i know where it should be in my article
mircea_popescu: lo and behold it is!
mircea_popescu: self-suckerpunch
mircea_popescu: it's not even a problem of references per se, is the fucking issue. "don draper", big fucking deal.
mircea_popescu: but when i use throwaways i use them on the basis of something, whereas with him that something's not actually fully formed behind the throwaways
mircea_popescu: the reason you can't translate trilema from romanian to english IS NOT that you can't move the references. but he doesn't offer much in the way of this benefit.
ascii_field: reading tlp 'the aspirational images in ads makes you even more xxxxxxxx' feels quite like martian telling me 'your tentacles ache every day, which drives you to drink'
ascii_field: i don't have tentacles. really.
mircea_popescu: makes shit like "Short of cauterizing your own genitals, nothing seems like it would change who you are like speaking in an-other's language. Blech, I'd rather wear someone else's underwear, no thanks, I'll take the 12 credits but no way am I retaining anything. "Well, science says you lose the ability to learn languages as you get older." Oh, did NPR just interview TED? Dummies in other countries and dummies in t
mircea_popescu: he CIA learn as adults, are they all using different science? An American describes another American who is fluent in French as "oh my God, he's so smart, he speaks French and everything" but this statement is easily unmasked as a defense by getting him to describe a Frenchman who speaks English: "well, they all speak English over there." The bilingualism is robbed of the "intelligence" signification because it's see
mircea_popescu: n as customary.... who they are. America is a branded-identity nation, which means hearing yourself speak in not-your accent, with not-your vocabulary sounds very not-you, which is why when an American tries to speak French he feels self-conscious, but the Frenchman hearing it feels you aren't even trying. He'd be wrong, you are trying: trying not to become French."
mircea_popescu: even more fucking insulting
mircea_popescu: TU QUOQUE, MOTHERFUCKER!
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: actually, here he describes something vaguely real:
ascii_field sees no end of civilians derping at him re 'languages omfg111!!111'
mircea_popescu: of course it's real
mircea_popescu: the problem is he isn't fucking applying it to himself!
ascii_field: 'holy fuck, you speak language!'
phf: "he knows english better then any american i know" well, that says something about ~americans you know~
mircea_popescu: where's the butt!
ascii_field: a chick's, i'm told
ascii_field: and is that piss on the front ?
ascii_field: (typical failure mode of a chinese office chair - converts to stake.)
ascii_field: http://business.asiaone.com/news/woman-badly-injured-exploding-computer-chair << not this one, but apparently ~another~ similar breakage
assbot: Woman badly injured by exploding computer chair, News, News, AsiaOne Business News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2mOL4 )
assbot: Office Hijinks Award Ribbon: Outstanding by PositiveCynic on Etsy ... ( http://bit.ly/1N9NrYg )
fluffypony: that is awesome
phf: fuck this i'm moving tostanding desk
kakobrekla: or get a decent chair?
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: kakobrekla: 'decent' is what? an old cable spool ?
ascii_field: unrelatedly,
ascii_field: does anyone else find that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi.tar.gz.sig will NOT download in any ver of firefox ?
ascii_field: 'network error'
mircea_popescu: tbh i have no idea how these accidents are supposed to occur - every air cusjopm i ever saw had this 2mm steel plate protecting the butthole.
mircea_popescu: supposedly the failing chamber pierced that ? with what.
ascii_field: the piston.
mircea_popescu: not enough pressure, plox to math it
ascii_field: (plastic piston-head)
ascii_field: did math it. it is vaguely possible ~if and only if~ the user drops into the chair
ascii_field: from a metre or so up
mircea_popescu: wellookthen
mircea_popescu: ascii_field downloaded/saved. ff 20.0
mircea_popescu: maybe if the piston was tungsten tipped or some nutty shit.
ascii_field: steel pistonrod, plastic head.
ascii_field: no buttplate.
mircea_popescu: i just looked, it's there.
kakobrekla: omg chair progress
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thestringpuller: ;;google robot rock
gribble: Daft Punk - Robot Rock - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZjqVnWBhc>; Daft Punk - Robot Rock (Official audio) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdeYwObD-j4>; Robot Rock (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Rock_(song)>
ben_vulpes: entrance fee to casita vulpes has evolved into "hot meal, diapers, and a bottle of moet"
mircea_popescu: why moet ?
ben_vulpes: and yeah moet schmoet, but i want to *see* my friends
mircea_popescu: in other news, "There are, in fact, fairy tales about women with agency, and your article would have been even stronger if you knew them (but it's understandable that you don't). "The Girl Without Hands" for one, and a fairy tale retelling of the Psyche and Eros legend, "East of the Sun and West of the Moon". (The retelling is better than the Greek legend, where Psyche is deus ex machina'd at the end. She does at least
mircea_popescu: make choices and take risks along the way, though.) There are also loads of Native American fairy tales with women who have agency."
mircea_popescu: god damned it... "this is better than the greek myth because i like it more"
mircea_popescu: you fail at comprehending wtf anything is, anon derpy female comentator on tlp site.
ben_vulpes: i am also going to have to redo al of my keybindings for single handed use
mircea_popescu: and psyche is supposed to be a fucking object. that is THE POINT of that particular story (fuck you myth legend bs words you don't even comprehend. story is good enough for pedestrians).
mircea_popescu: and yes it's a pity idiots don't know greek. how about penelope, not enough agency ?
mircea_popescu: how about fucking athena, to this day the avatar of agency - stupid bitch came out of her father's head pointy end first
mircea_popescu: like to this day comes out of my fucking head.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not that i imagine i can keep up with the vulpes, but - i ok'd remodelling of a bathroom. in wax.
ben_vulpes: wax?!
ben_vulpes: plz fosr to splain, boss
mircea_popescu: for the wall to be covered in wax drip so you can attach candles to it so they drip in the bath!
mircea_popescu: and stubs on the faucets and whatnot.
ben_vulpes: notbad dot urmom
mircea_popescu: mymom was never this cool.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 18:09:14; thestringpuller: i also asked him what a kolhoz, and he looked at me funny and said, "Those haven't existed in a long time. Although we are probably in one right now."
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assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 19:05:41; ascii_field: does anyone else find that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi.tar.gz.sig will NOT download in any ver of firefox ?
ben_vulpes: 39.0.3
mircea_popescu: !up asoltys
ben_vulpes: in other news, america has retardified even midwives
ben_vulpes: "is my child at risk?
ben_vulpes: "i uh well YES"
ben_vulpes: "how?"
ben_vulpes: "the doula will tell you more" /scoot
ben_vulpes: women's spaces.
ben_vulpes: lovely feels, no rigor or discipline.
mircea_popescu: at risk of what ?
ben_vulpes: well nothing specific you see just uh statistics that she couldnt understand much less explain.
mircea_popescu: your kid is at risk of nothing speciffic ?
mircea_popescu: what is this, oregon ?
ben_vulpes: america.
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ben_vulpes: hopitalcorp tmrceteras
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it'll be fine.
mircea_popescu: http://disneyporn.com/category/disney-jasmine-porn/ << check out the awesome protective power of being the richest corporation in all of the us fictive economy.
assbot: Disney Jasmine Porn - Disney cartoon porn ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2su7H )
ben_vulpes: of course it will. she was just flailing in the presence of apparently the first rigid cock she'd seen in a decade.
mircea_popescu: i gotta host with whoever's hosting these dudes.
mircea_popescu: leaseweb netherlands ? srsly ?
ben_vulpes: in other nyooz, i learned that the confederated tribes of the grande rhonde very intentionally do not meet curation standards or participate in the repatriation scemes.
ben_vulpes: /they/ regularly circulate ancestors about the tribe.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what any of that is ?
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 20:08:09; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << congirmed.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "curation standards" would be "lock all of your holy relics up in slidy climate controlled shelving units and never let anyone touch them"
mircea_popescu: who is suxxake
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "repatriation schemes" would be "kiss the ring and the usg will pressure holders of your holy artifacts to return them"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: confederated tribes of grande rhonde is a convenient political box for a myriad of small tribes along the length of the willamette and parts of the columbia.
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mircea_popescu: well... good for them then
mircea_popescu: "Deconstuctionists like to ask easy questions like, "why is a story for 15 year old girls so popular among middle aged women?" They asked this about Twilight, too, but it's not at all surprising that these books are popular among middle aged women who still secretly believe women are second behind men. Not in terms of theoretical potential, perhaps, but they've grown up in a world with enough experiences that they ca
mircea_popescu: n't shake it. It's still a man's world.
mircea_popescu: The real question is why it's popular among 15 year old girls? 15 year old girls should, in theory, have grown up without 1970s sexism. Schools are hypervigilant about fostering girls development, and there are enough female everythings that it's not remarkable that there are female anythings."
mircea_popescu: heh, fucktarded douchery. soviet romania had female everythings, and they all beelined to home where they cooked for the family anyway.
mircea_popescu: what, ustards are amazed that they applied the principles of 1950s soviet feminism, got the results of 1970s soviet society and WHOA WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED ?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: im sure it was going to have been different that time.
mircea_popescu: it.is.always.going.to.be.a.mans.world.
mircea_popescu: now go out and make sure there's enough men, forget climate fucking change.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314175 << very favoured by malware artists for some reason
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 20:16:13; mircea_popescu: leaseweb netherlands ? srsly ?
thestringpuller: only retarded teeny bopper girls and 40 year old housewives actually take Hunger Games/Twilight seriously...
trinque: "only" is perhaps not the best term to use to describe the majority
assbot: Grindwork Thinking Server | Grindwork Corporation ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnGC9f )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: wtf am i looking at, ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: I DON'T KNOW EITHER
ascii_field: l0l expertsystems are back!!11111
ascii_field: or so claims the site.
ben_vulpes: but it looks like some sort of prolog/cl-y saas thinger?
ben_vulpes: well what is an expert system but a tidy formalization of bizlawgic?
ascii_field: wtf with the stripped parens
ascii_field: 'let's introduce inconsistency!!! customer will LOVE it'
ascii_field: the moar arbitrary the better!
ben_vulpes: oh come now, didn't macsyma do the same thing?
ben_vulpes: maxima, perhaps.
ben_vulpes: o hey same diff
ascii_field: maxima has a matlabesque infix syntax iirc
ben_vulpes: DERP OF COURSE those names.
thestringpuller: trinque: quite depressing how the majority has the same mindset as the teeny boppers.
thestringpuller: interestingly, the goths burned down a hot topic to get rid of the teeny boppers in south park, but 3 more popped up.
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/msjamielynne << remarkably, chick is still there a few years later doing the exact same thing.
assbot: Jamie Lynne Grumet (@MsJamieLynne) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZMo0b )
mircea_popescu: if only men had the unyielding dedication of cockroaches.
ascii_field: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.tar.gz.sig doesn't load in any version of 'chrome' or 'chromium' also.
ascii_field: wtf ??
ascii_field: and http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.tar DOWNLOADS MOTHERFUCKING PARTIALLY
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZMJA6 )
ascii_field: .tar.gz that is
mircea_popescu: your lowbrowsers are too new.
ascii_field: on ALL graphical www browsers i tested
mircea_popescu: it probably conflicts with unicode magic packets.
thestringpuller: Samuel: "mommy why can't humans work together like ants?" - good question. << the actual fuck?
thestringpuller: aside from humans not being eusocial....
mircea_popescu: so she's raising a future cuckold, good for her.
mircea_popescu: hopefully she leaves him money, it's a lot better when the cuck also "owns" the place
lobbes: ascii_field: I can confirm the same behavior on my graphical winblowz browsers (Firefox, Chrome). On Firefox, I get additional message of 'MrTAHIXE.sig.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.'
mircea_popescu: this is pretty weird, in fairness.
lobbes: can download just fine using 'wget' via my debian server. very odd
kakobrekla: lol. try ie?
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3VE1HHM.txt )
ascii_field: ;;later tell mod6 feature request for your 'v' - degrade gracefully if the graphing lib thing is absent plz
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: lobbes: wget works fine
lobbes: kakobrekla: funny enough, IE can download it
kakobrekla: ms ftw!!
lobbes: lol
ascii_field: lobbes: didja diff it with the wget'ed copy ?
ascii_field: and actually gpg --verify ... ?
lobbes: haven't tried verifying anything yet
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mircea_popescu: "Also, who gives a shit about what you buy? Everyone buys all the same things all the time; that's why those items are always stocked. You're not special. Nobody cares."
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313926 << A lot of 'Muricans develop an aversion to a certain kind of comedian who does the exagerated voice thing. Prolly blame Pualy Shore et al.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 14:52:37; mircea_popescu: inexplicably, tlp doesn't think Kristen Wiig is funny
ben_vulpes: and you do?
ben_vulpes: the "and i'm with my me" bit was kinda chortleworthy but it was written by snl staff.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo she was brought to me as an offering, she is now a stock character for 1970s/1980s born too ugly to be a slut too lazy to cheerlead i know i wanna-be a writer i-m-going-to-new-york to be discovered if it worked for horseface whatshername why not me!"
BingoBoingo: A lot of those.
mircea_popescu: yeah but we'll just call all of them kristen wiig
mircea_popescu: just like we call "academic" "cultured" "feminists" luce.
mircea_popescu: i should probably write this bestiary sometime.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2014#668309 << dafuq does DoE have to do with revenue, hm?
assbot: Logged on 09-05-2014 20:30:36; bitcoinpete: hashfast vp of engineering: Amy most recently came from Engine Yard, where in less than two years she went from Senior Developer to Director of Engineering. She oversaw the development of the flagship product, EY Cloud, growing revenue by over 60% in one year.
ben_vulpes: any time I see these "oversaw/responsible for revenue of blablablah" all sorts of alarms go off.
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lobbes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2014#846710 << root of trinary use in your vm, ascii_field?
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 03:04:39; asciilifeform: i've argued in the past that you have to ditch... binary. if you want to be rid of the 'floating point' abomination.
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
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lobbes: ascii_field: I *was* able to verify mpi-genesis.tar.gz.sig (downloaded from IE); yet to diff with wget version
ben_vulpes would love to see them both verify and anything show up in the diff
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
assbot: Logged on 21-06-2013 22:58:29; mircea_popescu: "The relationship between the fandom and the actual profession is always, absolutely always and without exception one of extraction. Specifically, resources are sucked out of the fandom for the benefit of the profession."
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 363.0, vol: 39772.82719078 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 328.0, vol: 24781.05918 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 363.9, vol: 61930.32937046 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 406.03, vol: 10.57156055 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 367.964352, vol: 62242.05660000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 349.50003, vol: 221.85927038 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 334.742776, vol: 206.30220259 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 360.298770867
ben_vulpes: dang, thestringpuller.
ben_vulpes: and an excellent re-read in the context of the catcode link
mircea_popescu: !up tcrypt
lobbes: ascii_field: I can now confirm that both verify, and the checksums match. odd indeed
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes sling dope one
assbot: "You're the guy who wasn't good enough to sling dope." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KURshq )
mircea_popescu: oh tsp beat me to it!
mircea_popescu: i think it might be his favourite trilema piece
mircea_popescu: "Here are the seven most important sciences according to the NYT:; ; 1. Sociology; 2. Political science; 4. Climate science; 5. Science fiction; 7. NPR; ; 8. Law"
assbot: mike_hearn comments on Linus regrets how insults damaged the Linux community and we can do better ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUUwKD )
ben_vulpes: wahaha mircea_popescu sauce for the nyt bit?
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: 5 Signs Your Child Is a Psychopath, According To The NYT ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUUW3w )
mircea_popescu: btcdrak you don't understand etc
btcdrak: "I think it's clear now that actually getting Bitcoin to the fabled seven transactions per second will be a lot of hard work, unless someone comes up with a new SatoshiDice like business model that results in huge demand for transactions. If things continue on their present path, scalability is really the least of our concerns - increasing usage is."
btcdrak: -mike hearn
mircea_popescu: my sarcasm!
ben_vulpes: bitcoin is useless for most people, nyooz at !1eleven!!teen
mircea_popescu: "In America, everything is a commodity, everything has a price. So when post-gold standard capitalism gets access to everything except the secret desires of women, it will necessarily create a mechanism to get them, too, i.e. some media to take the bullet as pervert so women can be free to talk in exchange for men quietly listening in. It took a decade but the system worked: Howard Stern was the inevitable synthesis of
mircea_popescu: feminism and Reaganomics, which is a sentence you will never read anywhere else."
mircea_popescu: holy shit.
mircea_popescu: that is the best stern blurb i ever heard.
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/06/amy_schumer_offers_you_a_look.html <<< where we find where alf got the idea for the vertical monitor
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Amy Schumer Offers You A Look Into Your Soul ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMP8Nu )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38610 @ 0.00055058 = 21.2579 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 22:31:14; mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/06/amy_schumer_offers_you_a_look.html <<< where we find where alf got the idea for the vertical monitor
thestringpuller: TLP is awesome, but does anyone else find the google ads a bit obnoxious?
mircea_popescu: !up RBLP
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you've not nullrouted google ads ?
thestringpuller: not at work
thestringpuller: at home, not even hulu can show me ads
thestringpuller: courtesy of girlfriend
ascii_field: thestringpuller: almost unreadable on pocket toys, tabletz, etc
ascii_field: on account of the pestilential ads
ascii_field: have to go find a real computer, yes
jurov: which mpi.tar.gz misdownloads? the one on ml?
jurov: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000175.html downloaded with firefox and verified okay
assbot: [BTC-dev] MPI Genesis. (Possibly Off-Topic!) ... ( http://bit.ly/1WnNZnL )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/06/amy_schumer_offers_you_a_look.html << tlp goes to great lengths to justify to himself the fact that even though he'd love to, he doesn't get to fuck two women while they're sucking each other off.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Amy Schumer Offers You A Look Into Your Soul ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMP8Nu )
mircea_popescu: this apparently HAS GOT TO be a lot more complexicated than "well... he never said "take your clothes off and mount her" to any woman"
deedbot-: accepted: 1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18268 @ 0.00055153 = 10.0754 BTC [+]
phf: asciilifeform: did you see my message about leftover i18n stuff in mpi?
asciilifeform: phf: yes!
asciilifeform: indeed it is there
asciilifeform: and there is a buncha rubbish/deadcode that needs to go, as well
asciilifeform: perhaps more interesting is my discovery that... the thing breaks 'v'
asciilifeform: (at least ~my~ 'v')
asciilifeform: !rated phf
assbot: You rated user phf on 01-Aug-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: ru lisper.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 Arch 64 is a go
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !rate phf 2 ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fe5f523b72c474cf
asciilifeform: !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.phf.2:d4a65b74f416edc4a69b3b1a3dcf57c1952b685ac3c2fb37aa438b8d96e53ea8
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for phf from 1 to 2 with note: ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314325 << the issue is specifically with the items ~as found on my www hoster~
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 23:09:39; jurov: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000175.html downloaded with firefox and verified okay
gribble: The operation succeeded.
phf: oh, ty
phf: yeah, the i18n stuff was preventing me from building it, but otherwise it works (with some extra modifications to get it running under clang/macsosx, but those are inconsequential)
asciilifeform: i'd like to get it to a point where it builds without any blood sacrifices on all vaguely-posixy machines
ag3nt_zer0: anyone around?
ag3nt_zer0: oh ok... couldnt see the nickname list for a sec
ag3nt_zer0: how's it goin out there?
mod6: asciilifeform: mod6 feature request for your 'v' - degrade gracefully if the graphing lib thing is absent plz << sure, will look into it. thx!
mod6: <shinohai> Arch 64 is a go << cool! thanks for testing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140429 @ 0.00055348 = 77.7246 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: A mole in the Vatican? 2 accused of leaking documents | NOLA.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sk7WWO )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you mean it breaks v!
mircea_popescu: another decade or so the us congress will look just like nero's senate.
mod6: ok i've resolved that issue asciilifeform, I'll test on it for a few days and probably post a new version this coming weekend.
mod6: just so we're clear, this change makes it so "use Graph::Easy" is not required unless the 'g|graph' flag is passed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00055662 = 8.7111 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: from the tinfoil hat chronicles :
mircea_popescu: "Tom Morello was born on May 30, 1964, in Harlem, New York to Ngethe Njoroge and Mary Morello. Njoroge was Kikuyu Kenyan and a Mau Mau guerrilla. Jomo Kenyatta, the revolutionary leader of the Mau Mau, was his uncle. Njoroge served as liberated Kenya’s first ambassador to the U.N. In August 1963, Njoroge and Mary met at a pro democracy protest in Nairobi, Kenya. In November 1963 after discovering her pregnancy, Mary
mircea_popescu: returned to the United States with Njoroge in toll, and married in New York City.
mircea_popescu: Undoubtedly, Mary Morello similarly to Ann Dunham worked for either the U.S. State Department under Dean Rusk through the USAID student operations ran by Helms to infiltrate leftist Black African Liberation Movements to disrupt, recruit and inform. Ann Dunham was three months pregnant when she married Barack Obama Sr. on February 2, 1961. While Obama Jr. was being conceived in 1960, Mary Morello was circulating in Nair
mircea_popescu: obi, Kenya. Mary Morello had travelled to Kenya as well as Germany, Spain, Japan under a clandestine veil as an English language teacher between 1957 and 1963.
mircea_popescu: After graduating from Libertyville High School, Tom Morello was the first student in Libertyville’s history to be admitted to Harvard University. Yet when he graduated with a degree in political science, Tom Morello asserts that he was “unemployable.” He then turned up in Hollywood as an exotic male stripper.
mircea_popescu: Ordinarily that’s the way the story is suppose to end, two small town boys from Middle America makes good. It was just faith that two young white independent American females just happened to be in the right place and right time [one in the middle of the East Africa] by chance meet two centrally placed Black African Liberation figures key to the interests of British and U.S. Foreign Policy.
mircea_popescu: One entangles the nephew of one of the most important and powerful Black Nationalist political figures of the 20th Century, Jomo Kenyatta, and the other entangles a key tribal rival to Kenyatta in love child triangles just at the moment of the critical end to a long bloody struggle for Kenyan independence from white colonial rule."
mircea_popescu: in other news : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/harvard%20cheating%20exam.jpg no fucking wonder they're so inept. THIS is what they do. roughly the equivalent of a stargazing army staff.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 23:21:00; mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo, to how the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in the bottom of the sociological order book and scream that someday, SOMEDAY, the market will come down to meet you, and you will be vindicated.
mircea_popescu: political science is almost like finance now. great victory for the scientific!
assbot: 000webhost Penetrated: 13 Million Plaintext Passwords Compromised | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1XKLrxc )
BingoBoingo: Random companies now feel like they gotta apologize in qntra comments nao
mircea_popescu polishes the hammer
mircea_popescu proceeds to re-read the "sociological order book" thing. yup, makes perfect sense. cryptography, who needs it when they've got "best business practices" and pr and whatnot. mainstream media! valuable knowledge and know-how! etc!
BingoBoingo: Derps gotta herp while the Hurping is hot
assbot: Former congressional aide accused of drugging and sexually assaulting women - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIJixM )
mircea_popescu: twist : he's black.
mircea_popescu: (d, obv.)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314362 << something in the mpi pile of shit breaks the regex
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 01:10:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you mean it breaks v!
asciilifeform: i suspect a stray 8th bit somewhere
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 01:10:03; shinohai: 6.02214179 × 10^23 in teh Vatican: http://www.nola.com/religion/index.ssf/2015/11/a_mole_in_the_vatican_2_arrest.html
asciilifeform: or subcontract to italy
assbot: One-time NSA division chief to plead guilty in young son’s death, court files show - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIJxc9 )
asciilifeform: ^ anyone recall this?
asciilifeform: (it came up before, long ago)
assbot: Severance guilty in three high-profile killings in Alexandria - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIJCNd )
asciilifeform: 'An eccentric history buff was found guilty Monday of killing three prominent Alexandria residents over the course of a decade..... Prosecutors said he was motivated by bitterness over a child custody battle that he lost and a general hatred of Alexandria’s elite..'
asciilifeform: mug shot suggests that they caught... rasputin ?
asciilifeform: earlier, 'The case against Charles Severance, who turned 55 last month in the Fairfax County jail, is a circumstantial one, predicated largely on Severance’s voluminous writings and ballistics evidence that isn’t as conclusive as prosecutors might like.'
mircea_popescu: awww, nsa division head fell into the "find me five lines and i'll hang him" trap ?
asciilifeform: how else.
mircea_popescu: listen up, remaining ones... you won't know which of you isn't on my books already. but you know YOU aren't, and now you know it'll mean your ass.
mircea_popescu: get with the program, there's no prizes for being the last traitor of a dying state.
asciilifeform: somewhere a kryuchkov is nervously fondling his luger
asciilifeform: 'Their most convincing piece of evidence might be Severance’s writings, seized from his car and through various electronic means.'
mircea_popescu: im sure they're very convincing.
asciilifeform: (elsewhere) 'Severance was arrested in March 2014 over the murders after he sought asylum at the Russian Embassy in D.C. He was reportedly 'sent away' from the embassy and told he was an 'unwanted guest'.'
mircea_popescu: almost qntrable.
asciilifeform: the 'damning writings' themselves are - unsurprisingly - not public anywhere, afaik.
mircea_popescu: but they are convincing!
asciilifeform: 'a prosecutor told a jury Wednesday. The killings, carried out over roughly a decade, were nothing short of “political assassinations.” “Introduce murder into a safe and secure neighborhood,” Alexandria Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney David Lord quoted from Severance’s writings.'
asciilifeform: 'A former Virginia political candidate was convicted on Monday of three murders over an 11-year span that fed fears of a serial killer in the U.S. capital area.'
asciilifeform: candidate, lol
asciilifeform: '...ran for mayor and Congress. He sometimes wore a tricorn hat, was known for ranting in public and once threw a punch at the organizer of a mayoral debate.'
asciilifeform: (paging emperor norton!)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> almost qntrable. << Someone give it the right treatment it could be.
mod6: asciilifeform: looks like my version handled it ok? http://dpaste.com/38PTAHG.txt
asciilifeform: 'Lord [prosecutor] also said he believed that Severance did not leave forensic evidence at the scene of any of the killings because he wore gloves. He pointed out that ballistics experts said it was exceedingly rare for a killing to be carried out with the type of .22-caliber ammunition used in each case and added that Severance displayed guilty behavior by fleeing to the Russian Embassy in the District after police initially
asciilifeform: contacted him about Lodato's killing.'
asciilifeform: mod6: odd!
asciilifeform: and wtf, the usg Official Truth is that MOST small arms homicides in usa have .22 hole.
asciilifeform: last i saw.
asciilifeform: jury was either a) not told this b) knew but was Officially ordered to disregard ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and wtf, the usg Official Truth is that MOST small arms homicides in usa have .22 hole. << Pehaps he had the fancy copper plate stuff.
mod6: oh, i did notice that your vpatch does have dates in it though. you probably just had an older version of vdiff?
asciilifeform: mod6: hm it appears so.
mod6: mine still didn't seem to care, but maybe try yours without ts's?
asciilifeform: mod6: the price i pay for having half-finished crud lying around
mircea_popescu: i still dunno why it would have died
mod6: i hear ya :]
mircea_popescu: and perhaps it should be fuzzed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my original 'v' relied on python's 're' (regexp) widget, and will prolly fall down if looked at with evil eye
mircea_popescu: a ok this isn't his
asciilifeform: 'In another passage he writes, “I’ve been nudging and trolling for over a decade and nobody has noticed. Violence wins. Assassinate because it is in the best interest of the child.”'
asciilifeform: 'Defense lawyers for Charles Severance, 54, of Ashburn, had asked the judge to bar prosecutors from using the writing as evidence out of concern that his inflammatory message would unfairly rile up a jury against him.'
ben_vulpes: regex is black fucking magic
assbot: Re: Can I use Lisp? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIL6ah )
assbot: Re: Is there a useful distinction between "programming" and "scripting" languages? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIL95Y )
asciilifeform: naggum, of course, did not touch upon the real root of the disease
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00055009 = 13.4222 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: which is that the shrinkage of design space led us into a place where often one MUST use a regexp or a similarly braindamaged thing
asciilifeform: because the alternative is ?????????
mircea_popescu: in seeminglyt unrelated news,
mircea_popescu: "Before, the experience of addiction was entirely subjective, is it messing up your life? Now, it's been objectified, the subject's relationship with the drug is is no longer relevant, it is the fact of the drug that is relevant. The obvious example of this sleight of hand is that there's alcohol use and alcohol abuse, but there's no such category as cocaine use, even though the vast majority of its ingestion has nothi
mircea_popescu: ng to do with addiction. The reinforcement is from the outside to comply with this idiocy: say you party down one weekend, then a random drug test at work, oops! So two things can happen, Guess What Happens Next: you could tell the truth that the coke was on her ass and how could you not? doesn't make you a bad person; or pretend/admit you're an addict and agree to go to rehab. So it's unanimous? You keep your job
mircea_popescu: at McDonalds and the system gets another data point confirming it is right. I hope the parallel between this and anything written by Solzhenitsyn is immediately obvious, if not, read anything by Solzhenitsyn. The Matrix doesn't need you, but it will offer you a free pass if you help get the other batteries in line."
asciilifeform: pushing around huge fucking tanks of unstructured text sludge that has to be picked apart by machine every single fucking time you want to do anything - leads to regexp.
assbot: CDE/package_completer.py at master · pgbovine/CDE · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1XKQqOl )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and ironically the tanks of sludge got to be in the first place because "people want to read the code".
asciilifeform: but also because 'why not have diff output a sexpr?' 'ewwwww parens omfg!1111111'
mircea_popescu: romney should have run on a platform of "there may be only one compiler and one namespace per generation and whoever breaks it we'll sell to ethiopian slavers"
mircea_popescu: forget "fiscal conservative" bs. information conservative.
asciilifeform: if it's one where diff and every single fucking thing under the sun doesn't operate on sexprs or something isomorphic - we get exactly to the same place we are now.
mircea_popescu: no, because no "autoconf" nor "make" bs
asciilifeform: we are dealing with a very basic mathematical issue
mircea_popescu: and it wouldn't be sexprs it'd be asts
asciilifeform: no different from the african huts that won't stand up
asciilifeform: sexpr is merely one way to represent an unambiguously-parseable ast
asciilifeform: which is why i said 'or isomorphic'
mircea_popescu: but focusing on the format is pointless.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i am in the habit of sending various relatives snippets to paste into sbcl and limited instructions on what to do
ben_vulpes: (re parens)
asciilifeform: and...?
ben_vulpes: works!
mircea_popescu: we now know enough - through our own work of digging and torture-extracted confessions, no less - to estimate that a large if not the largest pillar of the insanity was rms&co misguided quest to protect "but people want to read the code".
ben_vulpes: these are molecular researchy folks and the like
mircea_popescu: io hope you're sending them as docx
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how's that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the "can't expose ast" drama ?
ben_vulpes: i don't, praytell?
asciilifeform: the thing he did is called (at least by ilkka kokkarinen, who introduced me to the concept),
asciilifeform: 'unprincipled exception'
asciilifeform: 'yes, everyone can read the code!' 'but now we gotta make it so that we aren't working for microshit for free because no one can actually make'em obey gpl'
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes recent rms/everyone else fallout over whether llvm is good or not and gcc should or shouyld not expose the ast
asciilifeform: so we got obfuscatory obscurantist skulduggery.
mircea_popescu: they were wrong btw. should have worked for ms for free.
ben_vulpes: "In all likelihood, there was no
ben_vulpes: change at all to the labor-intensiveness, but the labor was more "fun" for a
ben_vulpes: certain class of people."
mircea_popescu: just like bitcoin works for obama for frere
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42340 @ 0.00054942 = 23.2624 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: ahahahaha
ben_vulpes: or stan works for tmsr~ for free
mircea_popescu: as in "i'll slit your throat and rape your sluts" free
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is how we got apple.
asciilifeform: (the current, post-nextstep apple)
mircea_popescu: i disagree.
mircea_popescu: we would have gotten apple no matter what, even withoujt computing. apple is what happens when an ambitious young man gets lucky with the media buys early and then sticks to it.
asciilifeform: everything in an apple product that actually fuking WORKS, silently, tirelessly, without fail, without generating 'work' for armies of vermin - was written by folks who never dreamed that it would end up in a commercial unix
mircea_popescu: (it's a testament to the idiocy of america : you can FORCE them into liking anything.)
asciilifeform: (because they were dim, yes)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's how we got the earlier apple.
asciilifeform: i'm speaking of the present-day one, which destroyed every other commercial unix house
asciilifeform: at least partly because it never had to pay for what became the os.
mircea_popescu: the "commercial unix houses" were the happy marriage of imbeciles to eighteen-abortions whores.
asciilifeform: sun was a legit thing for a spell
mircea_popescu: fucking medieval shogun'd have murdered them.
asciilifeform: (through 1995 or so)
asciilifeform: even hp
mircea_popescu: hp SELECTED fiorina.
mircea_popescu: ye ken ?
asciilifeform once owned a massive 'tempest'-shielded pa-risc monstrosity
mircea_popescu: here's a bit of truth for one bb : "Note that when scienticians talk about, say, the increase in alcoholism, they never go back before WWII, otherwise they'd have to label most ancient Greeks, all Vikings and everyone in colonial America as alcoholics. "Well," they'll explain, "it wasn't until then we started rigorously treating people as data points." "
mircea_popescu: funnily, the DO NOT apply the same principle to "climate data".
assbot: Herpes affects two-thirds of people under 50, WHO says | World news | The Guardian
assbot: Logged on 18-06-2015 14:04:54; mircea_popescu: except pretty much everyone can be made to develop mouth herpes by stressing the liver in a particular manner
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: source for that claim of yours?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133038 @ 0.0005456 = 72.5855 BTC [-] {7}
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: a good 80% of adults in usa, iirc, have the antibody.
asciilifeform: 'Severance’s mother said her son flew a skull-and-crossbones flag at the family home, developed an interest in crystals and once took money that his family thought he was spending on college tuition and invested it in Chrysler.'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what does it mean to "have the antibody", that one's body produces it?
asciilifeform: it is difficult to count a virus in the proper sense.
mircea_popescu: which claim of mine ?
asciilifeform: 'Defense attorneys, for example, had previously said they might seek to point the finger at another suspect — Nancy Dunning’s late husband, former Alexandria sheriff James Dunning, who had a tumultuous relationship with his wife. Perhaps laying the groundwork in the case, Severance’s parents and sister disputed Wednesday that Severance was the man caught on surveillance video possibly following Nancy Dunning at a Target
asciilifeform: store shortly before she was killed.' <<< ahahahaha finally.
asciilifeform: finally we have the missing piece.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: qntra?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314522 << hp lost its soul when it surrendered to x86
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 02:59:23; mircea_popescu: hp SELECTED fiorina.
asciilifeform: everything followed logically from this.
asciilifeform: today it is a necromantic husk of its former self, like sgi.
asciilifeform: ^^ which still exists, yes!
asciilifeform: ... as a thin veil for usg's 'strategic supercomputing' pig trough
asciilifeform: running 100% intel.
asciilifeform: ditto (the late) sun microsystems.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: except pretty much everyone can be made to develop mouth herpes by stressing the liver in a particular manner
asciilifeform: ditto compaq.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: immune system, rather than liver
asciilifeform: but otherwise - yes. the latent carriers will develop symptoms as the virus moves from the nerve to the skin.
asciilifeform: (when immunocompromised.)
mircea_popescu: i don't have a source in that sense. you can quote me as an expert.
mircea_popescu: in any case : an effectual immune response keeps this particular virus well contained. its efficiency is predicated on a well functioning liver because of peculiar synthesis pathways that are narrow and easily stress that i don't recall extemporaneously.
phf: sgi had the best implementation of x window system. i briefly had an o2, hand me down from a retrocomputing enthusiast
asciilifeform: phf: i still have an o2 at $redacted
asciilifeform: it worx
asciilifeform: spiffy box, terrible os
asciilifeform: (irix scarcely had any notion of security at all)
asciilifeform: mips cpu, and crossbar switch (yes!) instead of a bus.
asciilifeform: these were the ~physically~ spiffiest workstations i've ever laid hands on, bar none.
phf: true
asciilifeform: (not mine. but same type)
asciilifeform: solid steel everything.
asciilifeform: shielded.
asciilifeform: thing even had a separate port for 3g glasses.
asciilifeform: which i used.
asciilifeform: and worked far better than anything sold today, afaik.
mircea_popescu: looks a little like a pickle jar.
asciilifeform: actually it always reminded me of childhood ЗИЛ fridge.
mircea_popescu: or that.
phf: that actually looks like octane, i had the low end O2 version
phf: i sold my retrohardware before one of the moves, because, i'm ashamed to say, in 2007 it seemed like "mac, you're my unix now"
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asciilifeform: most desktop pc chassis still lack this ^
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asciilifeform: phf: in 2007 it was - esp. if you're into laptops - ~the~ unix.
asciilifeform: as, sadly, today.
asciilifeform: (or possibly cast Al. but heavy.)
phf: still can be had for peanuts, but of course can't get back the time investment into "living with mac", re the in-log points about "running linux since 99"
asciilifeform: i remember, as a schoolboy, wanting very few things more than to own a 'proper unix workstation'
asciilifeform: sorta assumed that they would keep existing.
asciilifeform: (defined, in my mind then, largely as 'physically incapable of running winblowz')
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: qntra? << reading into it, mebbe?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: read especially into the part with the sheriff.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> here's a bit of truth for one bb : "Note that when scienticians talk about, say, the increase in alcoholism, they never go back before WWII, otherwise they'd have to label most ancient Greeks, all Vikings and everyone in colonial America as alcoholics. "Well," they'll explain, "it wasn't until then we started rigorously treating people as data points." " << Or the society is broken as illustrated by the differing
BingoBoingo: 'Murican and Eastern European interspecies relationship with bears
mircea_popescu: or that.
phf: see, that's cause your priorities were straight. my first "real computer" was a shell into msu machine that was part of GlasNet project (glasnost! internet!) from an elektronika computer, so i kind of always assumed that real computers is not something you have at home. i always just wanted a "deck" from neuromancer.
mircea_popescu: what's definition of real computer ? no basic interpreter ?
asciilifeform: to the young me - it was a unix box. preferably, one too heavy to lift.
asciilifeform: but in no case anything pc-compat.
mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever had a real computer./
phf: real computer is obviously a machine from "понедельник начинается в субботу" novel
asciilifeform: the boxes of real life are but poor shadows of the mighty aldan.
mircea_popescu: but we still agree it's just a tool, rite ? like a glorified hoe ?
asciilifeform: more like cathedral organ, in this case.
mircea_popescu: that's not a tool.
asciilifeform: how not ?
mircea_popescu: it's an instrument.
mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed.
asciilifeform: 'Фёдор же Симеонович Киврин забавлялся с машиною, как ребёнок с игрушкой. Он мог часами играть с нею в чёт-нечёт, обучил её японским шахматам, а чтобы было интереснее, вселил в машину чью-то бессмертную душу - впрочем, довольно жизнерадос
asciilifeform: тную и работящую.'
asciilifeform: (strugatski brothers.)
mircea_popescu: lol japanese shahmatam is what, g o?
asciilifeform: most likely shogi.
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