brg444: "The government implemented a system in which you are given only one day of the week to be able to buy and this is decided according to your ID number."
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mike_c: yeah.. that's a good one
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: one example of something which Must Die is 'subkeys' << absolutely. i have no fucking idea what chickenbrain thought that's a thing. "o hey, you know what this chevy is made out of ? chevys! because they didn;'t get me that lego set when i was nine and now im fucked in the head."
mircea_popescu: shoot anyone who ever put a fucking pic in their god damned comment field.
mircea_popescu: i mean, a blob i can see, for whatever crazy purposes. but an actual fucking picture ? with like a dog and a dumbass hat too ? shoot the fucker.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other major atrocity is the fingerprint (yes). << im noit so sure. hash functions are fixed length output.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> in other nyooz, 73 connexions on zoolag, 41 - on bucephalus. << i see 64. not really a big deal there.
mircea_popescu: venezuela is one step ahead of argentina on the path of being the future of the united states.
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mircea_popescu: but anyway, sure, if anyone's looking to buy she-meat, in this side of the world, fine place to do it.
cazalla: i imagine that is like buying a car mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: (mostly quoted for the part where the guy says you can tell the animal's disposition by its coat color.)
cazalla: white ones are higher maintenance too
mircea_popescu: if you're that squeezed for margin you don't belong there anyway.
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mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 , i'm seeing just about 1.2g memory footprint. how about yours ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, can't be many here who would be in the position to buy em anyway
mircea_popescu: kinda need an arizona or i guess australia ranch for that.
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mircea_popescu: ette Fiddler by betting on web 2.0 so why would any sane team with a good strategist not jump right into that toxic sludge pool!
mircea_popescu: i hope whoever's in charge of this got paid for being this fucking stupid, it just wouldn't do any other way.
mircea_popescu: buncha fucken farm hands and colored pest control professionals mistaking themselves for white men in suits, for a pinata of ridiculous the likes of which.
mircea_popescu: im starting to inkle towards understanding what prussian school officers must have felt and thought meeting the russians "on the field" cca 1916, in the sense that if they chased fast enough they could sorta get within a hundred leagues of the revolutionary committee organised "military units" running away from the front.
punkman: hmm google says "Velma chan"
mircea_popescu: lol bitpay's "free forever" nonsense lasted almost about a whole year.
mircea_popescu: and they STILL haven't got the fucking lesson of Natalie, or a first inkling about how to communicate.
mircea_popescu: "Accredited Online University, Counter Terrorism Training"
punkman: ah on the last bit.ly link, yeah I get that too
punkman: does it even archive direct image links?
punkman: I get the usual page on archive.is root, weird
punkman: 139.162.197.127 if I ping it
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cazalla: apparently these are popping up in australia, remote area no less (Eurora, VIC - which is like 3 hours from Melbourne) yet i've never even seen on the road
http://i.imgur.com/F89Wi8C.jpg
cazalla: never seen one as in never seen a tesla irl
mircea_popescu: you kinda have to have the powerstations before you can really sell the cars i think
cazalla: apparently they're being installed along the hume highway which is a highway around 1000km in length which connects sydney<->melbourne as well as a bunch of rural towns together, but from what i've read, you'd have to stop every 200-250 km to recharge this car for 45m, meaning the trip takes an extra 3 hours.. keeping in mind my piece of shit car does 750km of that trip on one tank
davout: bonjour messieurs dames
davout: australia sounds like one of the worst fits for electric cars
mircea_popescu: well... they could put cells on the roof... prolly help a lot.
davout: one of the first things I was told when arriving in melbourne was
davout: "don't like the weather? wait half an hour"
cazalla: davout, yeah melbourne is a bit like that.. 4 seasons in one day is the saying
cazalla: voted world's most livable city but really, the food is shit, the people are shit, the architexture is shit, the weather is shit, the soil is shit, the housing is shit stacked upon shit, the traffic is even shittier, it's shit
cazalla: obviously, nfi who votes for such rigged polls in the first place
davout: cazalla: you guys do have good weed
cazalla: well i wouldn't know anything of the sort but last i heard, it was all asians growing hydro
davout: i agree on the food though
davout: i stayed with an audtralian roommate, he was amazed that i actually cooked
davout: as in anything different than "open package, shove in mouth"
davout: deedbot- only does trilema.
punkman: davout, it does all the feeds now
davout: punkman: hm, dropped mine apparently, last X.EUR statement didn't make it <<< trinque
cazalla: seen better pics before, just can't remember where
cazalla: and fucking google thinks i'm searching for mardi gras
davout: i'd be tempted to ask "who paints their snatch in the first place"
mircea_popescu: well... they shave it, they butter it... might as well.
mircea_popescu: anyway, buy her a chunk see what happens. stop keeping the poor girl in the basement of medieval scarcity culture!!1
cazalla: anyone seen black mass yet?
cazalla: johnny depp as whitey bulger
cazalla: released last week, so i was tempted to actually go to the cinema, but of course.. not released in australia until next month
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mircea_popescu: australia is where they try out the nutty coercion schemes, not the entertainment.
cazalla: i hear the same things from asciilifeform
cazalla: seems to be something has changed down under over the past 25 years but i can never be sure if actually has always been this way and this 25 years bullshit is just the process of growing from a child to an adult
shinohai: Holy shit punkman, nice assets to wake up to >>> 03:52 +punkman
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davout: bitfinex's "updated calculation is more accurate thus removing the large variance in accuracy"
davout: one doesn't just make that up
davout: it does have entertainment value
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assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 00:45:54; BingoBoingo: Java not only sucks, it is owned by evil
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 01:32:26; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: medicaid is for everyone. It just isn't for you... yet
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 01:41:43; mircea_popescu: so how do the fatties survive ?
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 02:09:11; mike_c: BingoBoingo: i don't know about safety net, we couldn't even protect altcoin
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punkman: cranes fall, fire, now stampede.
punkman: though the stampede is kinda traditional
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shinohai: "The best thing since the moth I ate yesterday"
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hdbuck: raspi + 3D printed case! they'll sell at least 100 of them, so that's around $1.2 million a piece to pay back the VCs. i am waiting for the « toasters » tho.
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hdbuck: ;;later tell brg444 glad you make it here :)
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assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 06:24:52; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other major atrocity is the fingerprint (yes). << im noit so sure. hash functions are fixed length output.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 06:18:18; mircea_popescu: it's up there with the fucking PICTURE.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 08:38:06; mircea_popescu: well... they could put cells on the roof... prolly help a lot.
jurov: tesla should make much more than 200km at once on highway.. but i can imagine airconditioning on full blast is needed, too
jurov: lol 200w stereo? with vacuum tubes?
shinohai solves energy issues by using a steam turbine powered by tears of redditards forced to read #bitcoin-assets logs ....
davout: shinohai: burn their hopes and dreams directly, you'll get a better yield
jurov: is the RFC confidentially public?
jurov: reminded me of the MP license :D
jurov: speaking of him, surely you have cleartext version... << davout
davout: the idea is mainly to document stuff that's pretty obvious in order for the coinbase et al. derps to be unable to later claim invenshuns
davout: and we had it in a drawer anyway, so might as well publish
shinohai: I loathe coinbase so 3 cheers to davout
jurov: so you don't actually implement it?
davout: jurov: of course the idea is to actually implement it
davout: but to do that you need another liquidity source on the other end of the tunnel
jurov: well then.. why explicitly rely on HTTP(S)?
jurov: it would work fine with gpg mpex-style
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davout: that also implements it, so publishing the RFC also communicates that serious liquidity sources are welcome to knock on our door
jurov: it says "POST method" which is HTTP-only thing
jurov: and yes, with GPG the oauth is unnecessary
davout: ah yeah, http APIs are assumed
davout: you're probably right it's not really necessary
davout: if you leave comments on the blog post i'll compile them all in the next version
davout: hdbuck: yeah, i saw this one on /r/buttcoin
davout: it's not very new, and obviously completely braindamaged
phf: hdbuck: there's a taler thread in the logs, with predictable conclusions
hdbuck: phf thx, predictable conclusions indeed
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trinque: davout: you sure that wasn't scoopbot before?
jurov: um.. looks like explo.yt fell out, too?
jurov: dunno if it was scoopbot
davout: trinque: no, i'm not sure, imma fish the logs to double check
trinque: I didn't get the list from scoopy
davout: trinque: you're right, deedbot- never had it
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jurov: it should ignore old entries...
trinque: I'm not spending the amount of time necessary farting around with an rss module
trinque: it does that once, and now you know what it missed :p
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davout: jurov: tyvm for the comments
mike_c: what, it doesn't check for l1 and allow? ;)
ascii_field: ^ 'lego' seems like an odd choice of luxury for an embezzler. it is a children's toy. little blocks that snap together. we had'em, cloned, nameless, in the su world
jurov: ascii_field: you have seen how much they ask for the original?
jurov: ^ just a gateway drug of 33 pcs
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trinque: maybe easier to port emulators?
shinohai: not sure realy, for a playthng or hobby i guess
ascii_field: whole thing smacks of the proverbial 'netbsd on dead squirrel in shoebox'
ascii_field: pogo is something quite like an actual computer
shinohai: but i can't do anything with it much yet :/
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gernika: is the foundation client known to be slower syncing than the phoundation client?
punkman: gernika: it does throw away blocks arriving out of order
gernika: Friend is claiming he can do a full sync in 6-8 hours using the phoundation client (non-ssd), while it took my OpenBSD box 3 weeks using eatblock. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
jurov: gernika how much ram did you have?
BingoBoingo: gernika: The Phundnation client does something now called "headers first" which doesn't really verify much of anything
gernika: jurov: This account is allocated 2gb - seems to be using about 1.4GB
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trinque: another lovely day in US-Russian relations
mike_c: kakobrekla: how do you feel about adding an Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * to w.b-a.link?
mike_c: Cross origin ajax request
mike_c: I was going to add an ajax search of the user page to the 'not found' btcalpha wot nick search page
mike_c: would rather not do it server-side to reduce dependencies
mike_c: thx to kako for rapid server change.
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jurov: liberland lives!!!
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punkman: I was hoping for a photo :(
BingoBoingo: Wanted to commit the report to the textual record as soon as possible
BingoBoingo: Because like CoinDesk is going to have a friend in Atlanta walk by the BitPay offices to take in the rumoured slaughte
BingoBoingo: BitPay is/was the non-retarded retail alternative to CoinBase
Pierre_Rochard: from the public info I read, they’ll continue with a skeleton crew, could make a turnaround if there’s a bubble soon :/
phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. both t. and ultimate) are allowed
phf: to misbehave, idle however long and send data as large as they want. what's not implemented: prioritizing trusted nodes over others during node selection: you might still lose connection by natural means, in which case -addnode nodes will be dropped, and a standard node selection mechanism is used. the patch so far is here
http://paste.lisp.org/display/155710. i'm thinking that ultimate vs. trusted distinction might be unnecessary. i would
phf: appreciate any comments on the subject.
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jurov: phf if you recall alf had some kind of middleman problem.. and this won't help
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 15:45:26; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu (corrected) dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims of wild animals to learn latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
phf: one way it might help with ascii's problem specifically though is that your client will patiently wait for ascii's node, even though there might be periods of time where it would otherwise be completely unresponsive.
phf: -connect based nodes in large avoid this problems because there's a mainloop that keeps adding same -connect supplied addresses over and over again, so even if elsewhere it's decided to drop the node, it'll be added and reconnected again on the next iteration. never the less a connect node can still be banned for misbehaving, which is something that his patch prevents from happening
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:29:38; phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. bot
ascii_field: will say this again, 'trusting' ip p.q.r.s is IDIOCY
punkman: you could make bans on "trusted" nodes expire sooner
phf: punkman: that specific loop can be closed much easier by checking for -connect during misbehave report and bailing
ascii_field: phf: all this will do is that you will waste cpu cycles on peers who are getting packetdropped by usg
ascii_field: (all of the mitm against my nodes has taken the form of vaguely plausibly-deniable packet dropping and delay)
ascii_field: strategic, incidentally, in that it did not trigger 'misbehave' listing on my end
phf: misbehave is only triggered when counterparty sends malformed, but still recognisable packets, so that would be a much more noticeable attack
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 19:30:42; gernika: Friend is claiming he can do a full sync in 6-8 hours using the phoundation client (non-ssd), while it took my OpenBSD box 3 weeks using eatblock. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
phf: where's packet dropping and delay results in a no-consequences disconnect, similar to that "no activity in first 60 seconds"
ascii_field: as no useful activity can take place while this hangs
ascii_field: because the whole thing was written by the profoundly retarded
phf: well, the patch gives special status to ips that were explicitly provided. if you're being mitm'd, your only recourse is operator intervention, the goal of the patch was to ensure that your recourse does not automatically become "use random shmoe"
ascii_field: and for 'trusted' peers, in the above sense, to be ones where all comms in both directions are authenticated.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu once alluded to a dirty ad-hoc implementation of this by chinese operators, where nodes had vpn links to one another
gernika: ascii_field Thought it was real - 32 GB ecc ram, opteron 4226.
ascii_field: as in, where did the blocks fed to 'eatblock' come from ?
gernika: both yours and mp's nodes.
ascii_field: i am asking ~specifically~ how the thing was put together
ascii_field: the correct way to use eatblock is with dumpblock coming from an already synced LOCAL node.
ascii_field: this does NOT take 3 weeks on my hardware.
gernika: Right. So I made it to 368xxx and got stuck on the large block syncing from one of your nodes over the network. I then (probably) had a bad shutdown and corrupted the db. I then used eatblock to sync from what I had on disk up to that point.
ascii_field: as in, didn't have the bdb locks fix patch applied ?
gernika: wedged - due to not having the patch yes
ascii_field: let me guess, of the 3 weeks, most of the time was spent wedged ?
gernika: The node was not on the network, it was just eating from disk. It did not appear wedged, just processing one block after another.
ascii_field: but was the entire blockchain already present on disk to be eaten?
ascii_field: what i am asking is, did it at any point spend time waiting for an edible block to appear on disk.
gernika: Yes it did. I did not dump all.dat files at once. I would dump one, eat through it (in about 24 hours), then dump the next.
ascii_field: the other important question is whether the node being synced was also accessing the net at the time
gernika: It was started like this bitcoind -myip=x.x.x.x -caneat -datadir=/home/gernika/.bitcoin-8-14/
phf: gernika: you know if the addr db empty? if you did a connect with that node at any point, it'll have a populated address database and start connecting immediately on startup
phf: i don't have intuition for complete eatblock time, but 3 weeks does sound like surprisingly long time, even with all the checks enabled
gernika: It might not have been empty. That said, I didn't see the noise in the logs I would expect to see if it were connected to another node.
phf: shinohai: what's the context?
phf: shinohai: what prompted the question?
shinohai: I was reading your conversation with gernika in logs, was only curious
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brg444: about bitpay, can't say they don't doesn't deserve what's happening to them :/ they're part of the reasons why we have a trove of redditard today who think everyone and their grandmother should be using BTC for retail purchases...
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BingoBoingo: Yeah, Looks like it is just you and the smaller MPIF share betting on trump so far with everyone else offering odds
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 13:50:30; hdbuck: raspi + 3D printed case! they'll sell at least 100 of them, so that's around $1.2 million a piece to pay back the VCs. i am waiting for the « toasters » tho.
mircea_popescu: you don't pay the credit card, you move the balance on a bigger credit card. duh.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:13:39; asciilifeform: if the protocol had been designed by sane people, ALL SIGNATURES WOULD HAVE SAME FORMAT regardless of for what the signature is - for a file, or for the key itself, whatever
mircea_popescu: and yes it will have to be redone if nothing else then for that reason.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:20:54; asciilifeform: (a panel which fits on a passenger car roof - let's even assume one on the hood, as well - would be lucky to pick up 200W at high noon on a cloudless day.)
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284827 << he has a point. the notion of putting http in there but then going "The settlement part isnt covered by the document, for the pretty simple reason that settlement is a business matter, not a technical challenge. It would also vastly complicate everything." is pretty wild.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 15:32:14; jurov: it would work fine with gpg mpex-style
mircea_popescu: if you are going to put something, put pgp. not pki, and in no case http for a stateful machine.
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mircea_popescu: also the correct way to handle this is through some sort of repo agreement. "A agrees to receive any sums from B throughout today, Sept 25th, and remit no later than by Sept 26th, at 8:00 gmt at address so and so a sum of btc equal to : the sum of btc received ; plus the sum of X currency received divided by Vx ; plus the sum of Y currency received divided by Vy ; plus [etc]."
mircea_popescu: this way B can send any payments its customers want, and A will idem send whatever payments its customers want, and at the end of the day the whole balance is BTC settled at the agreed upon price and that's that.
mircea_popescu: it can just be published as an item, you don't even need a "connection" between the two.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the pin of the association of plastic surgeons from lima, peru depicts as a logo a stylisized cunt.
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mircea_popescu: last fucking place you want the dudes to get involved, the cunt and the other set of labia.
mircea_popescu: hands off the functional parts, yo! stick to tits and hips and whatnot
BingoBoingo: It's nice that they put that warning up there
BingoBoingo: "Don't get anesthesia in Peru, They mess with the functional parts"
mircea_popescu: "Adopting Russian Orthodox Christian terminology for an important house of worship, the building is called the Moscow Cathedral Mosque. Its main golden dome and tall minaret reflected the style of many Orthodox churches, except for the Islamic crescents atop them."
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BingoBoingo: Nah, "Trend Piece" aka not news that sneaks into the news
mircea_popescu: Stroustrup said: You can write C++ programs that are statically type safe and have no resource leaks. You can do that without loss of performance and without limiting C++s expressive power. This supports the general thesis that garbage collection is neither necessary nor sufficient for quality software. Our core C++ guidelines makes such code simpler to write than older styles of C++ and the safety can be validat
mircea_popescu: ed by tools that should soon be available as open source.
mircea_popescu: check it out asciilifeform, "experts at Morgan Stanley" fixed the world!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26584 @ 0.00073785 = 19.615 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:27:23; Pierre_Rochard: sad day, could’ve been a great business…
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:29:38; phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. bot
mircea_popescu: but on the subject : the only thing that matters is the value transferred. any other approach is a waste of time.
mircea_popescu: you gotta meter what txn they pass you and score them.
phf: mircea_popescu: it's already done! afaik ben_vulpes and gernika both have a mac built using my approach
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:54:55; phf: well, the patch gives special status to ips that were explicitly provided. if you're being mitm'd, your only recourse is operator intervention, the goal of the patch was to ensure that your recourse does not automatically become "use random shmoe"
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:57:49; ascii_field: but that is not an adult answer.
mod6: oh speaking of eulora, is the new version out?
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 22:12:13; ascii_field: (eatblock is a locking operation)
mircea_popescu: machine can not do anything else during, if you're say making a large tarball at the same time odds are you'll cry.
mod6: so asciilifeform & mircea_popescu, I added a sync mechinism for V. but wanted to discuss it a bit, not sure if it's whats really ideal or anything.
mod6: this way when one clicks on a node in the directed grap (from before), it takes you to the actual vpatch. anyway...
mod6: one possibility to publish releases in the future now that we have V is to create a manifest of V patches and have the co-chairs sign the manifest, as well as the patches.
mod6: So I added subroutines to pull all patches, wots and seals from the foundation site, and/or audit what's already local by checking the local vpatch hashes against the manifest.
mod6: or you can pull individual patches if one likes.
mircea_popescu: phf you gonna get in game to get your pile of woooly shrooms ?
mod6: (incase there are patches added to the site webdirectory that are not included in the release manifest)
mod6: also, i'm leaving some room here for mirrors.
phf: mircea_popescu: yes, once i do the publishing
mod6: we could have a signed list of mirrors in the same location as the manifest so that there is some redundancy
mod6: anyway sorry for the verbosity, thanks for listening. just wanted to see if I was on the right track before I get too far along.
mod6: ty, having fun building it. :]
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:22:51; mircea_popescu: machine can not do anything else during, if you're say making a large tarball at the same time odds are you'll cry.
mircea_popescu: yeah but they were "oh, you know what, sigs for THIS really need to be dependably known"
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:13:17; mircea_popescu: Stroustrup said: You can write C++ programs that are statically type safe and have no resource leaks. You can do that without loss of performance and without limiting C++s expressive power. This supports the general thesis that garbage collection is neither necessary nor sufficient for quality software. Our core C++ guidelines makes such code simpler to write than older styles of C++ and the safety
mircea_popescu: in any case : one of the things i'd like to see is non-familiar stuff.
assbot: Logged on 28-09-2013 09:10:42; mircea_popescu: my current curiosity in the field is why isn't cramershoup more widely usedf.
mircea_popescu: i saw it in the logs. i dun know what to say of this as of yet.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:17:01; mircea_popescu: but on the subject : the only thing that matters is the value transferred. any other approach is a waste of time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i get it, you want encrypted channel for bitcoind
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2015 03:09:44; mircea_popescu: BitPay will soon be dead. They probably make $1000 per month revenue and burn around $500K.
mircea_popescu: (hint : they spent it ALL on trying to give people just like you the illusion that mansions, and lizard hitler.
mircea_popescu: just like the spam "mmwys" kids spend it all on trying to give other jerky teenagers the illusion that "mmwys".)
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:25:01; mod6: so asciilifeform & mircea_popescu, I added a sync mechinism for V. but wanted to discuss it a bit, not sure if it's whats really ideal or anything.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> why would an outfit like bitpay even have expenses on top of bandwidth ? << Their office is literally around the block from a hooters knockoff that does pizza instead of wings. They spent on location
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Needed physical office for stotting
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i sign on gavin's dumbass "proposal", it's directly obvious to anyone what happened.
mircea_popescu: if gallippi wants to play the adult and "sign declarations", what's that mean ?
mircea_popescu: "some bum said some things nobody card about" ? he doesn't want it to be like that.
mircea_popescu: he wants to pretend he's sorta kinda like me, were i to exist (which i don't, OOOOBVIOUSLY). so...
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:27:12; mod6: one possibility to publish releases in the future now that we have V is to create a manifest of V patches and have the co-chairs sign the manifest, as well as the patches.
Pierre_Rochard: BingoBoingo: rent wasn’t actually that much, ~3 people’s salaries. Employed ~70 people
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought he just meant signing patches.
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Interesting. I would have thought nice place downtown in the cool area would have cost more.
mod6: asciilifeform: hey, thanks for your input/thoughts there.
mircea_popescu: no, just make a special patch (for historical reasons called a manifest) that does exactly what you describe
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you don't understand. it's not the place that's cheap
mircea_popescu: it's dumbass "employees" doing nothing that are EXPENSIVE
mircea_popescu: could have had a stable of indians doing the same job for 1.5% of the cost and 0.0x% of the liabilities.
mod6: right, i want the sync mech to work inside of the bounds of V.
Pierre_Rochard: asciilifeform: no indians, a few argentinians (great devs fwiw)
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 11:28:01; mircea_popescu: which is weird because where the fuck would she get moneyz.
mircea_popescu: except no big tits, no nude at home, and no eating dogfood. just, derpage and pretense.
mod6: ok so. release vpatch would be creating a new vertex that has edges coming from the current leafs.
mod6: am I understanding that correctly?
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard yes, there are some passible webdevs in argentina.
mod6: appreciate the input here, im gonna ponder this for a bit.
mircea_popescu: sciencehatesyouSorry for your loss 2 points 58 minutes ago This is sad, and it's just a shitpost from Mircea the Rapist's QNTRA << check it out, sciencehatesme.
mircea_popescu: anyway. all the derps that wanna say things about how a non-bitcoin company's management reflects poorly on anything but the well known, amply documented and oft discussed ineptitude of the VC circus : feel free to suck a cock.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00073439 = 30.1834 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Bitcoin payments pioneer BitPay raises record $30M in Series A led by Index Ventures | Index Ventures ... (
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mircea_popescu: With total accumulated investment reaching $32.7M, BitPay has now raised more venture funding than any other bitcoin startup. << this is drastically false.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49058 @ 0.00073174 = 35.8977 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: and this doesn't mean, pick up your hair artist best friend and promote him.
assbot: You have not rated crescendo.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26361 @ 0.00073842 = 19.4655 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: !rate crescendo -1 Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.crescendo.-1:2aea276f4b159d2520ba164116a6cbd83cc0b987fb7d716a7c0578da4f9d1feb
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for crescendo with note: Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, pdf reads better as it is clear where the blackouts are (everywhere), perhaps i should've taken screencaps instead
mircea_popescu: let them fucking explain where the words went, what do you care.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the "strategic superiority rehash" thing is like the most read trilema article. i don't think this ever happened before for a day old item.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 02:33:13; mircea_popescu: check it out, they learned how to link !
cazalla: asciilifeform, i'd say someone slipped it past the editor and it will later be removed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00074057 = 12.3305 BTC [+] {3}
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mircea_popescu: it's like... at some point it's gonna be easier to specify which you're not pulling in.
mircea_popescu: "the lower price actually helps to more evenly distribute ETH."
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Do you mind me asking how long ago he tried to sell those?
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assbot: Bitcoin Is Left a Wallflower as Banks Borrow Some of Its Features to Boost Efficiency | MIT Technology Review ... (
http://bit.ly/1KTtOXk )
mircea_popescu: hey mit... it's not my fault you were left a wallflower.
mircea_popescu: a) shouldn't have got fat ; b) when the other sluts went to the twerking class, you should have been there already.
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BingoBoingo: Looks like Fall drama season is in full swing everywhere but exchange reported prices
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00073735 = 23.2265 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Looks kinda flat, but I guess one could say up 10% from some chosen marker
BingoBoingo: Just seems to be stuck in this range of prices
assbot: Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
assbot: I thought I told you not to touch me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00073821 = 25.6159 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: it doesn't show up if it doesn't trade within the mointh.
BingoBoingo: Ah, just the orderbook looks like it moved