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phf: pete_dushenski: i always thought that's from "butt", but i like your theory too
pete_dushenski: pretty much how you get alan turing
assbot: Argentine minister's daughter, 26, board member of main development bank — MercoPress ... ( )
phf: i had a Jamaican friend who would scare white people on campus by trash talking them in patois
pete_dushenski: ^putting a 26-yo whose never tied her own shoelaces in charge of a bank is batty for a reason
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i bet if it were an elected post, she'd win
pete_dushenski: phf: patois is interesting for its composition and
asciilifeform: because if nothing matters anyway, why not have photo of hot chick on the tube, instead of old man
pete_dushenski: phf ...and i have to say i found it sorta fascinating when i was in jamaica in february
asciilifeform: rather surprised this hasn't reached gringolandia quite yet
asciilifeform: here they seem to plan to elect an old hag
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: at the federal level, yes.
asciilifeform: but i'd vote for delfina whatthefuck, aha
asciilifeform: if she were here.
pete_dushenski: at the more local/state level, this phenomenon has spread here, particularly in the last provincial election
assbot: A not-so-new era begins in Alberta politics. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( )
pete_dushenski: elected school teachers with two years of experience, etc.
pete_dushenski: it's going about as well as you'd expect
pete_dushenski: folks already swinging back to the left for the upcoming federal election in ~9 weeks from now
pete_dushenski: *back to the right
mircea_popescu: phf couldn't hurt, actually.
mircea_popescu: the "more 20something dom chicks" that is.
phf: i should've put quotes around dom, but without being facetious, i agree, that would've been nice
mircea_popescu: anything that isn't the current crop would be great, really.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: careful with that 'anything other than this' approach. it's arguably what put us in this entire mess to begin with.
pete_dushenski: 'anything other than racist computers'
mircea_popescu: i was using it ironically.
mircea_popescu: for much metairony points
mircea_popescu: arguably - meta got us in this entire mess.
pete_dushenski: meta was necessary to maintain the linear ascent of the usians from the previous 3 generations into this last one
asciilifeform: !s ubiquiti
assbot: 21 results for 'ubiquiti' :
pete_dushenski: after china chewed the production meat off of the us' flesh, that is
mircea_popescu: what already ?
pete_dushenski: "Basically, employees have to drill into their head that email is not secure. Period! If you recieve email from your boss that you need to wire somebody $$, just tell him/her to at least phone you to verify who they are."
assbot: Hackers siphon $47 million out of tech company's accounts - Aug. 10, 2015 ... ( )
mircea_popescu: holy shit
pete_dushenski: ^from the comments of 1st piece
asciilifeform: 'A hacker posed as one of its employees online and stole $46.7 million from the company's accounts.'
mircea_popescu: << anyone seen this sortta shit before ?
assbot: dpaste: 2VHN7BA ... ( )
mircea_popescu: is it some new security model ? comma separated security or something ?
pete_dushenski: funny, same thing happened to me
pete_dushenski: i just beleeted the first part and all was well
assbot: Security Firm Redefines APT: African Phishing Threat — Krebs on Security ... ( )
asciilifeform: ask him, not me.
pete_dushenski: 'the latest from Comma Security Industries'
phf: misconfigured nginx
asciilifeform: herr krebs is a huminter not a siginter
asciilifeform: can forgive.
asciilifeform: 'What you can infer here (since Ubiquiti won’t comment) is that the scammers spoofed an employee communication from a fake email account, instructing an employee to wire funds to a “vendor.” In its laziest form, it’s an attack that anyone could mount with an Internet connection and about 5 minutes — the B2B version of the old “Nigerian prince” email fraud, except the prince purports to be your boss.'
mircea_popescu: unless the boss himself did it, and is claiming hack.
asciilifeform: no shit.
mircea_popescu: it's a fundamental flaw of the entire non-ba corporate model, and it's unfixable.
asciilifeform did not really consider any other variant seriously
mircea_popescu: like all the oithers.
assbot: Emancipation shemancipation, independence shmindependence. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( )
assbot: The world is fundamentally hostile. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( )
asciilifeform: my personal favourite hypothesis is that the 47 megatonnes is an nsa-levied fine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00071422 = 10.3919 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: for lackluster concealment of the diddle discussed in february
asciilifeform: (why not the nsa levying secret fines !!1111!!11 i oughta patent!)
pete_dushenski: dat mpoe. seriously.
phf: pete_dushenski: i've read it, didn't answer most important question, how was the beach?
pete_dushenski: phf fuck, beats me.
pete_dushenski: i'm not really the beach type
phf: ah, my impression is that there's fuck else to do in places like that.
pete_dushenski: i won't pretend like there's a nightlife worth the bother, but i went biking, played tennis, drank several bottles of ginger wine daily
phf: i went to costa rica recently, bad food, bad services, one city for the whole country which essentially consists of 5 street blocks of what i would recognize as a city. but the beach was nice, can rent a boat and go diving, etc.
pete_dushenski: san jose is a dump
pete_dushenski: the pacific coast of costa rica is gorgeous, however. monkeys swinging from trees, perfect sand, a wide variety of ex pats
pete_dushenski: the caribbean coast is beautiful in a different way, being more tropical, lush, and mysterious
phf: we went to the nicest restaurant i could find after a week of casados, waiter was reading silverware placement of a cheat sheet, and the chicken was undercooked. it was almost comic
pete_dushenski: and speaking of travels, i'm currently crafting an article on my recent trip to the dollar store here
phf: in san jose
pete_dushenski: lol a silverware cheat sheet. that's pretty embarrassing
pete_dushenski: not enough colonialism i guess
pete_dushenski: My investment is more than a million dollars for the factory here. But during these two years I’ve lost a lot. It’s all the problem of labor—the mentality of the workers. Our factory needs to run twenty-four hours a day; it’s not just for one shift. In order to do this in Egypt, we have to hire male workers, and the men are really lazy.”
assbot: The Chinese Lingerie Venders of Egypt - The New Yorker ... ( )
pete_dushenski: egyptians can't be bothered to lift a finger, it seems
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63463 @ 0.00072219 = 45.8323 BTC [+] {5}
pete_dushenski: and greece just snagged a 86 bn euro loan with a 32.5 yr maturity at 1% interest
mircea_popescu: phf where ? san jose ?
mircea_popescu: nuts, i liked san jose a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: dude no way. wtf where've you been
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski see, totally worth it to ignore the oxi. where else are tyhey gonna find 80bn for 30 years for free.
phf: san jose reminded me of moscow in the 90s, grown men in track suits selling apples out of cardboard boxes, old women selling roasted something or other, all in the middle of a busy street
mircea_popescu: i guess i gotta dig up my pictures from there or something.
mircea_popescu: anyway. you found the nice indian restaurant with the peacocks roaming in the garden ?
mats: sounds like the Mexican side of the Tijuana border, phf
mircea_popescu: it's not really that far off.
mircea_popescu couldn't stand the coasts, way too hot and humid. the city itself is a very pleasant weather.
phf: yeah, mexico city was similar in places
mats: on that note, was just in ensenada a few weeks ago, great time to be there -- mostly just locals this time of year
mircea_popescu: or did you find the casino & brothel quarter ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i did not, i should've asked for recommendations ahead of time, come to think of it, i don't know spanish
mircea_popescu: dun tell me you hung out with the expats in retard quarter.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu phf the three of us should have a costa rica photo comparison event
mircea_popescu: i doubt you can beat my teat lunch.
mats: but hard to shake the eyeballs as a couple of asians strolling around town
phf: mircea_popescu: retard quarter i assume is around the hospital area?
mircea_popescu: btw, were the "los ninos merecen tang" ads still around ?
mircea_popescu: phf you can't miss it, there's a bunch of mcd kfc etc. only place in town they even exist.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, costa rica turns out a bunch of stuff
mircea_popescu: phf does the san jose horseshoe still stand btw ?
mircea_popescu: lulz of all time, it was the size of the parking lot shed of the original one.
phf: don't remember the ads, but i don't think so
phf: what's san jose horseshoe?
phf: how long ~did~ you stay in san jose?
mircea_popescu: a soi dissant casino
mircea_popescu: like 3 years.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59550 @ 0.00072229 = 43.0124 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: originally was gonna stay for a coupla weeks, but we liked it that much.
phf: we must've stayed in two different san joses, but i stayed for two days, after a week on the coast, so my expectations were already skewed
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you didn't go to san jose alone ?
mircea_popescu: now i don't know for sure what you do etc, but the restaurants of the city've been unfairly impeached. they've nothing starred, is true, but there plenty good ones.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i've not gone anywhere alone, including the bathroom, since i was about 15 or so.
pete_dushenski: don't tell me you're so rich you have a 'wiper'
pete_dushenski can only dream
mircea_popescu: no, i'm such an asshole i have to have my food tasted.
pete_dushenski can also only dream of this
gernika: following up on the reddit/hearnia thread: Holy shit I can't believe hearnia wrote this: "...Bitcoin social contract.." It's just ... unbelievable.
hanbot: scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned
assbot: Build Notes: “Manual” Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 | The Whet ... ( )
mircea_popescu: phf you ever found the weirdo one that was "painting themed" so they'd bring you the food on like, that silly wooden thing painters hold to mix paints etc ?
mircea_popescu: gernika which is why he'd be doing it.
pete_dushenski: gernika: what else would rousseau say ?
gernika: I'm just trying to imagine life from the perspective of someone who could read that and buy it. A Trilema article mast seem like a solid, impenetrable brick wall.
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 05:03:59; hanbot: scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned
pete_dushenski: hanbot: nice, clean work on the ubuntu build
mircea_popescu: well, gernika, it's for tablets.
gernika: mircea_popescu: medium?
phf: mircea_popescu: ok, i yield. in the small shore towns all they have is casados, which is not something i expected after shore towns in other countries with rich sea food cuisine. so my first experience in the big city is a cheat sheet silverware and undercooked chicken for the girl. at that point i, and i agree, unfairly, assumed that they just don't like food.
mircea_popescu: i can see it. but you know, sj is like what, 2-3 mn ?
phf: all eating casados, i'm sure
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what that is, honestly.
mircea_popescu: "homecooking" or something ?
phf: yeah, beans, rice, chicken, plantains on a plate. they are pretty much an item on every small roadside place menu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: earlier thread with bizarre made-up terminology: consider 'drapetomania'
mats: I read some of dreppers 'what every programmer should know about memory' recently
mircea_popescu: they had very decent steaks i tell you
mats: pretty good
mircea_popescu: best mexican restaurant i ever found was in cr
asciilifeform: mats: it was, interestingly
asciilifeform: mats: drepper is not a talentless man. if he were, he'd be harmless.
asciilifeform: mats: i have that article printed and bound, on a shelf (or... had. iirc it grew legs, wandered away)
phf: i can believe about a steak, and i think it would've been a safe bet to go to a steakhouse, but after a week of diving and swimming i'm not usually in the mood for heavier foods
mircea_popescu: yes, well, you dont want meat and don't like veggies. it's getting hard to feed you :D
mircea_popescu: i think they had a milk bar, funnily enough.
mircea_popescu: never ended up going
phf: hah
assbot: [BTC-dev] some notes after reading the source ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00073002 = 29.2738 BTC [+] {6}
mats: asciilifeform: my 'aha' moment was when he explains how locality in memory should be used to optimize cache access
asciilifeform: mats: it's pretty humdrum, nothing we didn't do in school
asciilifeform: but useful to give to n00bs
asciilifeform: which is where i think my copy went.
pete_dushenski: hanbot: your stator build didn't get wedged even though you didn't add the asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.patch ?
asciilifeform: punkman: nice work, and overlaps heavily with my own notes. but gotta understand why i did not make these cuts as of yet.
punkman: well hopefully you won't have to do all those and can focus on more important things
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the wedge point would take about a week to reach, at typical pace, if starting from nil
gernika: asciilifeform: took my openbsd box 4 weeks
asciilifeform: punkman: recall mircea_popescu's comment about 'father's pistols'
asciilifeform: it is one thing to snip provably unreachable code
asciilifeform: a very other thing to cut messages
asciilifeform: not that we actually need 'checkorder' for anything
phf: mircea_popescu: i was expecting fresh seafood, it being a coastal country, easily available. oaxaca and guerrero for example had fish markets all over the shore.
asciilifeform: nor do i have much desire to replace anything whatsoever with boostisms
asciilifeform: (re: json comment)
asciilifeform: try to remember the basic reason why we're using 0.5.3 as foundation rather than starting from empty.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00073003 = 29.7852 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: it is a steaming pile of shit, but has one saving grace: it existed prior to the war.
asciilifeform: prior to bitcoin being dear.
phf: i remember a bar in old san juan, and their bar food selection consisted of a spicy soup and oysters. i'm pretty sure those were best oysters i've had
asciilifeform: punkman: this does not mean that it can't be cut. i've been cutting it. but it has to be cut like a living thing.
asciilifeform: with care.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168907 @ 0.00073298 = 123.8055 BTC [+] {8}
ben_vulpes: so defadvice is rms's wacky clos?
thestringpuller: So we get censored in reddit and get called crazy.
thestringpuller: Hearn's article gets censored and all the tards lose their shit.
ben_vulpes: ahyu, link, thestringpuller?
thestringpuller: << they posted hearns article and it got "removed" in a similar fashion (blatant removal rather than manipulation)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8170 @ 0.00072149 = 5.8946 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: top 25 posts now are all about block size limit...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13130 @ 0.00071546 = 9.394 BTC [-]
phf: ben_vulpes: no, this is emacs's whacky clos. i think advice is a separate lineage, by way of interlisp. there's defadvice in lispworks for example
assbot: Enhanced Implementation of Emacs Interpreted Objects: Top ... ( )
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 05:02:25; mircea_popescu: no, i'm such an asshole i have to have my food tasted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42230 @ 0.00073671 = 31.1113 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: phf: how'd they land on 'EIEIO'?
punkman: yeah, why not aiaiaiaaiaia?
phf: ben_vulpes: i think the madness comes with trying to do clos in elisp :>
ben_vulpes: i try to only use it as a scripting language for my 'editor'
ben_vulpes: but brainfuck exists so why not clos in elisp
ben_vulpes: reddit ssl is confuckered to use sha-1
ben_vulpes: well done, chaps
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23008 @ 0.00074101 = 17.0492 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00074096 = 29.8607 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.00072624 = 46.9151 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24751 @ 0.00075045 = 18.5744 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00075046 = 23.1892 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: #1 : "that's a great question little girl. what face would've kept my husband from messing around with that fatty lewinsky ? this one !"
pete_dushenski: #2 : "yummm... bbq socialists..."
assbot: Dollarama and the case of the dollar store curio. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( )
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell williamdunne any idea why scoopbot_revived hasn't seen my last few posts ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: seems to be in channel. maybe not voiced ?
pete_dushenski: !up scoopbot_revived
ben_vulpes: NUT SPLAT
pete_dushenski: << it's high time that a duckduckgo search engine feature makes its way in channel.
assbot: Logged on 15-08-2015 06:00:05; mircea_popescu: <cazalla> 8chan-hosted-content-disappears-from-google-searches/ << there's an iron curtain now falling on teh internets, <me inserts rest of clinton speech>. it's us and them.
pete_dushenski: not sure if nano is up to amending gribble to ;;ddg or the like
pete_dushenski: and i somehow doubt that kako would be much fonder of adding !ddg to assbot
pete_dushenski: which leaves the door open for some enterprising young thing looking to make his mark on the wot
pete_dushenski: follow williamdunne's lead here, kiddos. watch, learn, and contribute.
pete_dushenski: !up therealnanotube
cazalla: pete_dushenski, if memory serves, ddg is just as bad
punkman: ddg just pulls from bing/yahoo, yandex
pete_dushenski: cazalla: my anecdotal experience indicates otherwise
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00075179 = 28.3425 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: As You Sow Files Notice Of Legal Action Against Soylent Super Food -- OAKLAND, Calif., Aug. 13, 2015 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- ... ( )
pete_dushenski: i've searched for terms on google and received 0 fucking hits, and ddg brings back >10
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i'm sure i've read before they log and sell their data
pete_dushenski: how else would they make money ?
pete_dushenski: short of rich dude's 'service to the world'
cazalla: i wouldn't know how else, don't really care either, i just don't think it is THE alternative to google.. maybe ixquick or something else
cazalla: but i continue to use google so bit of a hypocrit in doing so
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 03:57:38; pete_dushenski: "bat boy in favour of block size increase !"
pete_dushenski: !ixq would be alright
ben_vulpes: what's going on, pete_dushenski?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: just finishing this bit of icelandic schnapps before bed, eyelids getting heavy. you ?
ben_vulpes: drinking myself into bed during a death march weekend
ben_vulpes: reading logs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92505 @ 0.00072604 = 67.1623 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: icelandic schnapps?
pete_dushenski: 'birkir'
pete_dushenski: from icelandic birch
pete_dushenski: and with that, enjoy the logs, and be sure to leave some benisms for me to read in the morning.
ben_vulpes: adieu
assbot: Build Notes: “Manual” Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 | The Whet ... ( )
ben_vulpes: did this clear up your abortive attempt?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00075404 = 19.0772 BTC [+] {3}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00072764 = 26.195 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00072764 = 3.8565 BTC [+]
deedbot-: accepted: 1
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shinohai: ^ "I declare a 25 BTC bounty to the first pool that will mine a block with Bitcoin ХT."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37671 @ 0.00075405 = 28.4058 BTC [+]
davout: shinohai: "i'll do it if the bounty is paid in regular bitcoin"
shinohai: The tards have taken the front page of r/bitcoin with XT and censorship nonsense today.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00076353 = 42.6813 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: Tianjin explosions: police order mass evacuation amid contamination fears | World news | The Guardian ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.00074563 = 40.4131 BTC [-] {6}
shinohai: ;;later tell trinque got the script to tun, fails to compile BxImage:
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89500 @ 0.00073228 = 65.5391 BTC [-] {3}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.00072118 = 29.8569 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up King_Rex
assbot: Question for forkers : Bitcoin ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00076968 = 15.7015 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: "Forkers"? Seriously?
thestringpuller: The "arguments" and rhetoric from the people opposing the easing of the 1 MB cap are so getting so desperate that it almost feels like the last gasp of some pathetic campaign. You have lost this battle. Give it up already.
thestringpuller: ^^^ So entertaining
jurov: "mission accomplished"
asciilifeform: l0l i somehow missed the exponentially-growing size thing
asciilifeform falls down
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: The maximum size shall be 8,000,000 bytes at a timestamp of 2016-01-11 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 1452470400), and shall double every 63,072,000 seconds (two years, ignoring leap years), until 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 2083190400). The maximum size of blocks in between doublings will increase linearly based on the block's timestamp. The maximum size of blocks after 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC shall be 8,192,000
asciilifeform: glorious.
asciilifeform: why not 8GB ~right now~
asciilifeform: let ever maggot send tx
punkman: not enough maggots to fill an 8mb block anyway
asciilifeform: usg knows how to breed'em
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: zoolag back up?
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 02:29:02; asciilifeform: zoolag is back.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> why not 8GB ~right now~ << For the slow boil. Have to hook them long enough reversion from the mistake seems impossibru
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fix your post, 'though given Satoshi's infrequent use of cryptographic signatures and loss the email account' --> 'loss of'
BingoBoingo: damn, fxd
thestringpuller: oh i was about to put that typo up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57750 @ 0.00071678 = 41.394 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: ;;calc 365 / (6262 + 365)
gribble: 0.0550777123887
thestringpuller: ^- majority my ass
thestringpuller: ;;calc 365 / (6262)
gribble: 0.0582880868732
thestringpuller: 6% of all nodes are XT.
punkman: thestringpuller: even that is doubtful
BingoBoingo: It really depends on how you count total nodes
fluffypony: asciilifeform: the stupidest thing is that the max message size is 32mb anyway
punkman: fluffypony: you want em bigger?
fluffypony: so nfi if they think they're magically going to redo huge chunks of networking code somewhere inbetween things
punkman: oic, never mind
asciilifeform: fluffypony: it's more of a 'do you expect me to talk? no mr bond, i expect you to Die!!'
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( )
fluffypony: punkman: I don't have a problem with a very conservative dynamic increase over time, bearing in mind that my baseline is "can I run a node on an entry-level South African DSL line"
asciilifeform: this is like asking 'how is that fella supposed to breathe under water' as they tie the stone around his neck
asciilifeform: the breathing thing is not part of the plan.
fluffypony: punkman: and my larger gripe is not "should we increase the blocksize or not", but rather the way Hearn-ia and Chief-Scientist-Gavin have sold this solution via Reddit and blog posts
asciilifeform: << the '6K nodes' thing is a laugh. how many actually verify blocks from genesis up?
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 15:20:30; thestringpuller: ;;calc 365 / (6262 + 365)
asciilifeform: for all i know, half of'em are running 'pseudonode'
fluffypony: asciilifeform: well at least they stopped listing the nodes that don't accept incoming connections
fluffypony: they used to list them
asciilifeform: 'they' also stopped listing nodes running sane (pre-0.8)
asciilifeform: and my nodes only appear because i bludgeoned the version string to death
asciilifeform: (they appear as '-' and you can't click on it, aha)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74514 @ 0.00070799 = 52.7552 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10736 @ 0.00070223 = 7.5391 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that the figures displayed at 'bitnodes' have any strong relationship to reality
BingoBoingo: For the record, at LTB we will be switching all our nodes over to BitcoinXT to ensure we stay on the proper chain when the fork is triggered early next year." >> lol
assbot: Upcoming Bitcoin Hard Fork & /r/bitcoin censorship - Bitcoin & Beyond | Lets Talk Bitcoin ... ( )
asciilifeform: that there's the magic bugle, then
asciilifeform: the one where all the usg muppets stand up
asciilifeform: (any not stood up yet?)
asciilifeform: for the record, i'm rather surprised hearn didn't also push a switcheroo in the proof of work algo
asciilifeform: 'two tastes that go great together' (tm) (r)
fluffypony: scrypt!
BingoBoingo: Comes later with permaflation
fluffypony: then they're two steps away from being a Monero clone, goddamn altcoins
BingoBoingo: Linked to LIBOR
fluffypony: hah hah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00071282 = 19.2818 BTC [+]
jurov: Hearn has in the past been a consistent advocate for having more Bitcoin users pushed onto less reliable SPV wallets instead of fully validating Bitcoin nodes, a move that // something missing here? // in an environment with substantially larger blocks and a higher orphaned block rate.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73123 @ 0.00069698 = 50.9653 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: BingoBoingo: accidentally something? ^
BingoBoingo: jurov: fxd
jurov: uf, how and when i got a "particularly promising branch criterion"?
jurov: anyone knows what is that bbranch good for?
mircea_popescu: chetty sticks.
jurov: well.. server defo does not like my container shenanigans
jurov: down
mircea_popescu: can you be specific ? in #eulora ?
jurov: oh i'm not in #eulora
pete_dushenski: "a funny, quirky, and inspiring memoir from online entertainment mogul, actress, and "queen of the geeks" Felicia Day about her unusual upbringing, her rise to Internet stardom, and embracing her individuality to find success in Hollywood. "
pete_dushenski: !s felicia day
assbot: 0 results for 'felicia day' :
pete_dushenski: thought so.
pete_dushenski: so famous, these people.
pete_dushenski: "Hilarious and inspirational, You're Never Weird on the Internet (Almost) is proof that everyone should embrace what makes them different and be brave enough to share it with the world, because anything is possible now - even for a digital misfit. "
assbot: A complete theory of economics on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
pete_dushenski: these two hands are remarkably similar in terms of the half-retarded chickies they're holding
mircea_popescu: a week at least, with dedicated servers and ips, derp's been derping.
mircea_popescu: what "spam makes money" ?
mircea_popescu: it makes money like "i'm going to be a star" makes money.
assbot: Emancipation shemancipation, independence shmindependence. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the satisfaction of seeing one's spam comment on the pages of trilema is worth so much more than money
pete_dushenski: ;;seen menahem
gribble: menahem was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours, 30 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <menahem> ahh shit thats cray. :D
pete_dushenski: "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out."
pete_dushenski: "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out."
pete_dushenski: "Up for an adventure but can’t decide where to go? This app randomly picks a top bar on Yelp, picks you up in an Uber and takes you there — without you knowing the destination."
pete_dushenski: such random !
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( )
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( )
pete_dushenski: "I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism."
pete_dushenski: ^'satoshi'
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( )
mircea_popescu: and the counter is 42k ? lotta spam ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99846 @ 0.00070472 = 70.3635 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: i feel so rich.
BingoBoingo: (40,340) for the spam
mircea_popescu: I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list. I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus. However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork.
mircea_popescu: The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement. Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satos
mircea_popescu: hi Nakamoto. Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being forced or pressured into it. By doing a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.
mircea_popescu: They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be. However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions. For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivia
mircea_popescu: l problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism.
mircea_popescu: If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin a failed project. Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially robust. This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
mircea_popescu: Satoshi Nakamoto
mircea_popescu: sorry for taking the space, but you never know what else happens on teh internets.
mircea_popescu: obviously all i see in there is "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi". but that'd be me.
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( )
assbot: Help installing XT on Window 98? : Bitcoin ... ( )
mircea_popescu: !rated btcdrak
assbot: btcdrak is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: wouldja mind ?
BingoBoingo: !up btcdrak
mircea_popescu: anyway, the reddit thread is pretty lulzy. all teh butthurt awww.
btcdrak: not sure I too tbh.
btcdrak: yeah reddit is a mess atm.
mircea_popescu: "Heh, whoever this guy is, he probably could have never anticipated that the Streisand effect will be the downfall of the small-blockers' side. "
mircea_popescu: teh downfael1
mircea_popescu: "Can't see why SN would write about Gavin in this sort of terse/removed tone."
btcdrak: bwahahahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76400 @ 0.00072244 = 55.1944 BTC [+] {7}
mircea_popescu: btcdrak i mean, wouldja mind registering with assbot
assbot: And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially hijacked on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
btcdrak: It would be so funny if Satoshi does something to remove doubt of his identity. I'd love to see the cognitive dissonance play out on r/bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: no point doing that before the idiots invest themselves in it.
mircea_popescu: let gavinhearn come out with a "hey it's notrly satoshi" first.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of gavin,
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2014 22:35:52; mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy."
btcdrak: ok I registered with assbot
BingoBoingo: !rate btcdrak 1 lurks here
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP:
asciilifeform: eight yottabyte blocks when !!!1111
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.btcdrak.1:bfd9f1dbc0e9d0d0e4a40211f5707f13406d3119b39375fe388e73cef2e3b13e
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for btcdrak with note: lurks here
mircea_popescu: !rate btcdrak 1 New blood
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP:
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.btcdrak.1:a647ff23eec9625b49ce18eb7a22cb190710fff646b72cf2b7ed06982735e980
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for btcdrak with note: New blood
btcdrak: I'm officially registered as an ass now. reddit will be pleased. next stop t/buttcoin. Jealous of petertodd who got mod status
mircea_popescu: btcdrak can now self voice
mircea_popescu: being an ass is the best thing to be - you get all teh pleasure.
assbot: PseudoNode can now pretend to be Bitcoin XT. · basil00/PseudoNode@e61ec61 : bitcoinxt ... ( )
btcdrak: looks like someone wants to mess with Mike's statistics
mircea_popescu: the b-a node could do this since forever, if anytone gave a shit to bother.
kakobrekla: wheres that ddoser now, could be put to good use
BingoBoingo: !up mitzip
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10854 @ 0.0007213 = 7.829 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0007213 = 12.19 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Underhanded c 2015 challenge is up
assbot: The Underhanded C Contest ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36139 @ 0.00072659 = 26.2582 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;nethash
gribble: 371799054.163
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43064 @ 0.00075597 = 32.5551 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76800 @ 0.00075599 = 58.06 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00072647 = 21.3582 BTC [-] {5}
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: fyi vlc will happily play youtube videos from the url alone. "open network".
mats: TIL
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: see pm
thestringpuller: are the 14.04 test results available?
mod6: ubuntu?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.000756 = 2.7972 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dun have vlc on this machine and i don't usually care enough to check some vid on a dirty box
mircea_popescu: but yeah.
BingoBoingo just changed User Agent string again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42336 @ 0.00075601 = 32.0064 BTC [+]
assbot: BitBet - Openly gay player in Major League Baseball before August :: 0.07 B (35%) on Yes, 0.13 B (65%) on No | closed 1 year 3 weeks ago ... ( )
assbot: David Denson: Baseball finally has its first openly gay active player. ... ( )
assbot: cryptonaut420 comments on [Bram Cohen] Bitcoin-XT: Because the best way of making engineering decisions is by popularity on reddit. ... ( )
BingoBoingo: Because MP, MPEx, Trilema, and qntra don't exist
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00075601 = 19.8453 BTC [+]
punkman: cohen is a king among the autists
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29650 @ 0.000741 = 21.9707 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: i just cracked my water heater thermostat open
ben_vulpes: unsurprisingly, 'twas set to its lowest possible setting
punkman: any higher and the heating becomes global instead of local
ben_vulpes: the communists came through the apartments recently as well, installing low-flow faucet hobbles
mats: lol it appears based on those Cohen tweets that weev has a sensible position on the fork
mats: mebbe he is still reading logs
mats: i still don't get why he took off after that brief conversation with mp if he actually has access to 0days
BingoBoingo: mats: Not exploit zero days, "information" 0 days or something like that.
mats: not sure what that means
punkman: what like the pr release hacks?
BingoBoingo: business seekrits or something like that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61200 @ 0.00076531 = 46.837 BTC [+] {5}
mats: ic
mats: that sounds even more difficult to sell than a n-day exploit
assbot: Checking your bits ... ( )
ben_vulpes: notrly, go short and drop the docs
mircea_popescu: lol @ all teh reddit posts with 0 votes.
mircea_popescu: mats upon research it turns out that teh guy isn't/wasn't actually doing anything. i'm obviously not the best avenue for that.
mircea_popescu: iirc he made some start-up with max keiser, which failed.
mircea_popescu: "Imagine that happened when they thought they had 75% but actually only 10%..." <<< no need to imagine anything. simply recall the event a few weeks ago when they who thought they had 90% actually had <40%.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11846 @ 0.000741 = 8.7779 BTC [-]
assbot: Troubadour ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25854 @ 0.0007382 = 19.0854 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00075084 = 31.0097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25854 @ 0.00075084 = 19.4122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 210969 @ 0.00077068 = 162.5896 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76950 @ 0.00078487 = 60.3957 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83196 @ 0.00075084 = 62.4669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00073118 = 53.8148 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00072025 = 47.7526 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 256.09, vol: 9822.81089287 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 256.05, vol: 4354.06766 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 259.29, vol: 27889.01352868 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 262.0, vol: 12.37063187 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 257.330128, vol: 18651.01300000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 260.3475, vol: 263.60326104 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 260.8722, vol: 22.58341741 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 257.950245245
mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone recall where the fuck i put that screenshot of gavin casually admitting that satoshi never spoke to him after he ran off and "presented" bitcoin @nsa hq ?
shinohai: No, but if anyone finds it I will preserve it.
midnightmagic: satoshi never spoke to anyone.
shinohai: He may as well have sucked Gavin's cock as far as r/bitcoin is concerned.
BingoBoingo: I think you may have trilema'd it this year
mircea_popescu: yes this year.
mircea_popescu: recently, cuz it was luzly how i'm apparently the only one remembering.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00077666 = 14.64 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm checking the job board
assbot: Satoshi dumped Bitcoin right after Gavin announced he was going to the CIA. ... ( )
menahem: that was recent though, I remember reading it about 2-ish weeks ago.
menahem: (your post)
mircea_popescu: i guess ire=make it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39837 @ 0.00079097 = 31.5099 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra ... ( )
assbot: There is nothing new in the world. Except for the history you didn't know. | Qntra ... ( )
mircea_popescu: that's why i wasn't finding it lol
BingoBoingo: I dunno how you find old Trilemas, even Qntra is starting to really slow down the brainchain index
BingoBoingo would be totally lost if not for the page
assbot: Archives | Qntra ... ( )
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
menahem: lol now that I think about it, that's probably why I remember seeing that article.. after going through qntra archives.
mats: >0.00079097
mats: wat
BingoBoingo: Bullish
BingoBoingo: Or did that break your trading stratergy
punkman: to the moon!
mats: nah
mats: i make small 2-4% plays
mats: unfortunately i don't get paid when mpoe moves like this but meh whatever
mats: i wont get hosed when it falls back to 0.00028 either
scoopbot_revived: The news, in brief : "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi"
mats: order book currently looks like this: bids (0.00074712, 58500) (0.00071408, 57) (0.00071407, 21696) asks (0.00076799, 159300) (0.00079910, 35312) (0.0008, 32418)
mats: much spread
assbot: quellish - How on Earth the Facebook iOS Application is so large ... ( )
mats: >there are more than 18,000 classses in the application
assbot: The news, in brief : "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi" : Bitcoin ... ( )
punkman: I don't think I've written 18k classes total so far
mats: if only 'satoshi' went to the effort of signing a message with an addr from his hoard
assbot: Checking your bits ... ( )
midnightmagic: Nobody actually knows whether there is any hoard or not. It would not be possible to attribute it to him.
mats: i would be convinced it was him if he used coins from the first day of mining
mats: and would have the interesting effect of perhaps moving the market
mats: but yes, whether he has the keys at all -- an open question.
Adlai: satoshi should spend to the mpex address, move two markets with one stone
mats: i can't imagine how many redditor brains would explode at the notion
assbot: xtbit/notbitcoinxt · GitHub ... ( )
BingoBoingo: "This version is indistinguishable from Bitcoin XT 0.11A except that it will not actually hard fork to BIP101, yet appears on the p2p network as Bitcoin XT 0.11A replete with features, yet at a consensus level behaves just like Bitcoin Core 0.11. If it is used to mine, it will produce XT block versions without actually supporting >1MB blocks."
midnightmagic: more ideally the instant the fork condition is met it would invisibly switch the miner back to making normal -core blocks., and the miner should be stripping all identifying marks from coinbase etc and submitting via e.g. eligius block submission port.
BingoBoingo: Well this looks like someone's first draft. I'm sure more things will emerge later for great justice. Still no XT block yet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103500 @ 0.00076799 = 79.487 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol 2 votes, 100% upvoted, yet it's not in new not in rising etc.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile hearn is being censored.,
mircea_popescu: the life and times lmao.
trinque: hory shit! the day I pick to go to the river!
trinque begins the logs
trinque: shinohai | ;;later tell trinque got the script to tun, fails to compile BxImage: << that oddly is a failure building the kernel, which is unexpected and should not be gentoo-specific
shinohai: trinque: I finally got it to run, added genkernel --menuconfig all to line 185
shinohai: but still have no idea how to run it inside qemu
ben_vulpes: what what?
ben_vulpes: theymos moderates r/bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: nyooz to me
trinque: shinohai: may I have your .config ?
trinque: and I'll diff it with the one I produced
trinque: or rather, do you know what you kicked on in menuconfig?
trinque: and the qemu commands is... qemu-system-x86_64 -hda root.img -vnc :0 -redir tcp:2222::22
trinque: something like that
shinohai: I'll get config asap. I tried starting it that same way (minus vnc, don't use it)
trinque: I had that in there to see the lilo screen
trinque: but not necessary long as it boots
trinque: shinohai: are you on an amd something something?
assbot: The 25 most exciting bitcoin startups in the world - Business Insider ... ( )
trinque: shinohai: you might want to run memtest86 or something; you might have derped ram
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes mnop
assbot: Adam Back on Twitter:.@twobitidiot someone mentioned hypothetical: if you lost your Bitcoins as a result of Gavin network split - would you hold him accountable? : Bitcoin ... ( )
assbot: Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra ... ( )
mircea_popescu: << i suppose theymos' valliant effort to make reddit matter is cute in its own way.
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