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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69200 @ 0.00055244 = 38.2288 BTC [+] {2}
TheNewDeal: I must stfu and catch up on many a log. May be looking to resell part of a bitbet in the near future (approx 1 week from now). Keep that in mind if it sparks your interest
danielpbarron: !up Bingo_bar
Bingo_bar: Oh I wish Zimbabwe were in dixie
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: Hooray
assbot: "The Destruction of the Christian Tradition (Part 1)" - an essay by Rama Coomaraswamy ... ( http://bit.ly/1HF593L )
TheNewDeal: !down
TheNewDeal: !down TheNewDeal
Bingo_bar: Oh I wish I were in Dixie land to take my stand.
Bingo_bar: To live or die in dixie
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: I wish I were in Dixie
decimation: Bingo_bar: you at stone mountain?
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: Hooray
decimation: !down Bingo_bar
decimation: !up lolballz
lolballz: bb found the jukebox?
decimation: !up Bingo_bar
Bingo_bar: Niggers, too many here
Bingo_bar: I wish
Bingo_bar: Anyone here loan me a dead bigger for storage
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lolballz: 2@37.5 bb
williamdunne: Is there a sign saying dead nigger storage?
lolballz: rock out
lolballz: with yer cock out
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cryptome.org/2015/07/1-7B-anonymous-comments.htm << lulzy re: 'reddit' et al
assbot: 1.7 billion "anonymous" comments from 5% of the internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1HF6O9w )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
lolballz: ziggy played guitar
punkman: I need more disks
punkman: with all the terrabyte sized datasets floating around
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assbot: Deanonymizing Darknet Data · atechdad ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcPlLx )
punkman: (fellow finds GPS coords in images from that darknet dataset linked yesterday)
punkman: !up lolballz
lolballz: u greeks brew nice beer, why are u so broke?
punkman: they export greek beer?
lolballz: yep, not like italian beer made locally
punkman: mediterranean beer is awful
lolballz: we're getting proper peroni now
lolballz: tasmania has some excellent ones, hops barley and water
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punkman: there's the odd small-scale brewery that makes ok beer
lolballz: half the country drinks beer from cazallatown
punkman: but really all spanish/italian/greek beer I've had is almost as bad as heineken or worse
lolballz: i don't mind heineken, i like to know what my armpit smells like tommorrow
lolballz: the hops are unique
lolballz: tazzie blends em
lolballz: well
lolballz: like "single malt"
lolballz: doent mean shit if u can do it
lolballz: *can't
lolballz: fuck a larger tho, gimme an ale
lolballz: and so, i prefer a single malt
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punkman: any of those left that Diageo doesn't own?
lolballz: you want a nice cigar?
punkman: nah
lolballz: just accessible info?
lolballz: yeah id swap everything for a good cigar
assbot: Luscious Jackson - Naked Eye - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFbhcp )
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decimation: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/09/hitlers-thoughts-on-the-euro/ > "I’m halfway through Look Who’s Back, a book in which Hitler wakes up in 2011 and, homeless and friendless, ... The Reichsmark was no longer legal tender, even though others—probably some clueless dilettantes on the side of the victorious powers—had clearly adapted my plan to turn it into a European-wide currency. At any rate, transactions were now b
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Hitler’s thoughts on the Euro ... ( http://bit.ly/1fcAS4P )
decimation: being carried out in an artificial currency called “euro,” regarded, as one would expect, with a high level of mistrust. I could have told those responsible that this would be the case."
decimation: "“Haven’t you ever been abroad?” “Well, obviously: Poland, France, Hungary . . .” “OK, they’re inside the EU.” “And the Soviet Union.” “You got in there without a passport?” I thought about it for a moment. “I cannot recollect anybody having asked me for one,” I replied confidently."
pete_dushenski: decimation: kinda funny to consider what the man woulda thunk had he been time warped into the present eh.
decimation: heh yeah
pete_dushenski: this quote, of course, being the first of two that greenspun wrote on 'look who's back'
pete_dushenski: the second being the inspiration and provocation for my 'turns out you wanted hitler after all' article
pete_dushenski: i definitely appreciate how prolific phil is. i've been visiting his blog daily the last couple weeks.
decimation: heh awesome, I was just gonna lookup the nazi platform
decimation: you saved me the trouble
pete_dushenski: and added my free commentary whether you wanted it or not !
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205408 << a question that may yet be answered some day.
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:33:25; ben_vulpes: i wonder how pete woulda treated the tesla
pete_dushenski: someone in my meatwot is bound to splurge for one, and it'd then just be a matter of time before i snagged some seat time.
decimation: heh this nazi stuff is lulzy, looks much like the modern lefty platform - save the anti-immigrant stuff
decimation: which is actually pretty rational if you are gonna make a 'nationalist' welfare state
pete_dushenski: given that i was able to attract a fair few steers of unusual and exciting personally owned autos with my old blog, it should be a cinch with contravex's broader readership as a selling point
pete_dushenski: decimation: the anti-immigration, the free education for gifted only, and the get off your lazy ass elements are the only differences i could really spot
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pete_dushenski: but hey, times change (albeit modestly) and usians are emphatically not teutons
pete_dushenski: not entirely, at least.
decimation: actually, the white part has a significant portion
decimation: but their cultural distinctiveness has long disappeared into germanic surnames
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pete_dushenski: what's 'significant' ? 10% ? 20% ?
decimation: I think more than that, more like 50%
pete_dushenski: even with all the irish, italian, and eastern yurapeans ?
pete_dushenski: seems high.
pete_dushenski: "The ten largest ancestries of American Whites are: German Americans (16.5%), Irish Americans (11.9%), English Americans (9.2%), Italian Americans (5.5%), Mexican Americans (5.4%), French Americans (4%), Polish Americans (3%), Scottish Americans (1.9%), Dutch Americans (1.6%), and Norwegian Americans (1.5%)" << via 2008 census bureau
pete_dushenski: boom. called it ;)
pete_dushenski: "It's still an honorable thing to get a Ph.D. " << bahaha on what planet is this ?
decimation: interesting, I thought it was higher
decimation: I'm sure that the relative portion is higher in certain regions like the midwest
pete_dushenski: "It's not as if the Wiz Schools have killed CS at universities. Not yet, anyway." << mkay then. pass the pipe.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 23:24:38; williamdunne: 00:06:08 - gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day <<< isn't that what #b-a is anyway? At least that's how I'm trying to use it.
pete_dushenski: kids gotta climb the ladder before they can jump off the diving board into the deep end.
pete_dushenski: lift head before sit up, crawl before walk, etc.
decimation: apparently wisconsin, daktoas german ancestry is 'self reported' to be ~40%, roughly 20% through the midwest
pete_dushenski: where it's cold and the people hardier, basically.
decimation: yes, and that area happened to be where land was cheap when the wave of germans were fleeing derpiness/overcrowding
decimation: actually many in that time period saw the centralization of the prussian mega-state and decided to leave... because there was somewhere to go
pete_dushenski: right. it wasn't the urbanites that were fleeing the old world so much.
pete_dushenski: or if they were urbanites, they weren't died in the wool urbanites
pete_dushenski: like, say, teh jooz
decimation: initially it was poor folk with no other choice, but many in hte 1830-1860 bulge were people of some means who were 'voting with their feet'
decimation: as their ancestral homeland/city-states were steamrolled
pete_dushenski: lol not hard to imagine 2030-2060 usa being similar
decimation: no, but the problem in 'where is the frontier'?
pete_dushenski: that's a point.
pete_dushenski: the number of countries offering free fertile soil to industries immigrants is awfully limited
decimation: really, it was a rare point in history where people of some means had alternatives
pete_dushenski: industrious*
decimation: most people for most time do not
pete_dushenski: well there's always money in the banana stand...
pete_dushenski: by which i mean, there's always south america
pete_dushenski: only 400 mn people currently in the southern half and inhabited by a reasonably conquerable people
pete_dushenski: latin america is certainly a better opportunity than, say, asia, africa, the middle east, or europe for those usians looking for an exit door
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:09:47; ben_vulpes: razr did no wrong
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205396 << sop to suck automaker cock and gargle balls in car blogosphere, of which 'autoblog' once ruled the roost (they still might even, but i doubt it, even though i stopped paying attention)
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:30:18; mircea_popescu: bunch of retarded fucking monkeys. http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/v/19733f9b5da9864601475a8ba7c48a8d3e902be4/img/editors/sebastian-blanco.jpg << this inept fuckwit really thought THAT is what needs to be reported.
pete_dushenski: writing about every little retarded marketing detail is par for the course.
pete_dushenski: this is what passes for "being observant" in an industry where you can't actually criticise the plastic balls of shit you drive every week.
pete_dushenski: lest you, y'know, bite the hand that feeds you.
pete_dushenski: as far as car news sites and writers go, there's literally no other branch of 'journalism' that's so bereft of intellectualism, individualism, and integrity
pete_dushenski: this is very much by design.
pete_dushenski: derps like sebastian get wrung through the gawker-esque grinder for a fraction of the rate of internal marketing staff at an automaker
pete_dushenski: and to largely the same effect, with the added bonus of the illusion of independence to what i can only assume are very slowly-witted readers.
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pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205499 << well with that kinda tall shadow being cast onto the street, and that sort of whimsical 'build whatever wherever whenever' attitude, you're just gonna drive a stake through the heart of your pedestrian-friendly utopia, mister
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 03:02:21; mircea_popescu: ima build a fucking wizard tower on my own land if i feel so inclined, and if anyone doesn't like it ima add cannons to it.
mircea_popescu: yeah i know
mircea_popescu: i'm not ready yet.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205598 << eventually there's going to be a binary for macs as well, so check back in a few weeks
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 03:39:46; ag3nt_zer0: so think I am done as I don't know what the hell I am doing
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you're also not alone here. i'd be pleased to offer my urban planning and architectural services to the cause :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody will care.
mircea_popescu: there's this very strange delusion where twerps on the internet and beyond imagine someone, somewhere, (important! secret!) gives a shit what they do.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact the various governmenbts don't have enough of a clue to even keep track of the most direct threats to their very existence,
mircea_popescu: let alone random twerp in montana not possessed of enough intelligence to find a mate.
mircea_popescu: and in any case "the right to be forgotten" comes from the same set as "the right to fried chicken". forgetaboutit.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: how went the slithy toves this eve ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205707 << hitler was a national-socialist, the current lefties are international-socialists
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 06:15:38; decimation: heh this nazi stuff is lulzy, looks much like the modern lefty platform - save the anti-immigrant stuff
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski poorly. still none found.
pete_dushenski: hm. tough gig.
pete_dushenski: re: modern leftist : they're inter-everything, inter-sexual, inter-raced, inter-gendered, all the way to inter-opinionated
pete_dushenski: where 'every opinion is valuable... unless it's mean !'
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pete_dushenski: "As faking a 7 percent figure takes more risk than releasing a lower but real one, China has no motives to forge the data... It is hence groundless to suspect the NBS faked its statistics." << cute.
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pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.bitstein.2:c6425fc9b7bc8e79dc702b54d5d0ec5414ad73b61b10728dc9432eb06cc1f72a
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for bitstein from 1 to 2 with note: doing god's work on social media. https://twitter.com/bitstein
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.mircea_popescu.4:e29fd8985f2d0012bbacc5e9ca3f45037fdf14c37bddce4ebf46752b89fa5176
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pete_dushenski: should do it for tonight.
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cazalla: ;;later tell bingoboingo cascade or boags?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205785 <<< riddle me this.. is it women who desire the buttsecks more so than men?
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 07:40:30; mircea_popescu: an' in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/64967f37cc6cd78ef79fd75bc46cdb4b/tumblr_n625ybJIET1t7h3z1o1_1280.jpg
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mircea_popescu: womenz don't desire teh buttseks, womenz desire to be hurt by a cool guy. buttseks' means to an end.
cazalla: can't say i'm too fussed on the idea and both times i was pressured into it and obliged because if i don't, someone else surely will, in it goes
jurov: cazalla: own experience?
cazalla: yeah how else would i know?
cazalla: just to clarify.. i fucked them, not some weird ass pegging shit if you're trying to set me up with some cool meme
jurov: ;;ud ass pegging
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pegging | anal sex reveresed. instead of the man sticking his penis up the womans butt, the woman wears a strap-on and sticks it up the mans butt.
cazalla: jurov, do you remember your first blow job?
jurov: no
cazalla: guess ya sorta derailed my joke then
jurov: dude was not very keen on bj's, went straight for the ass
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shinohai: @ cazalla "not some weird ass pegging shit" < Traps perhaps?
shinohai: Nothing to top off the weekend like a relaxing prostate massage.
shinohai: think of them as hot girls with snipped dinglies.
cazalla: would ya give bailey jay a bit?
jurov: ;;ud bailey jay
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bailey+Jay | Also hotter than most women you'll ever meet. "Hey, did I seriously just catch you fapping to Bailey Jay?" "Hell yeah! No homo." by Bill27 March 31, 2014. 43 1.
shinohai: For say 5 BTC then yeah, I'd turn down the lights and plow that.
shinohai: Slap dat ass with Icy Hot and ride!
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assbot: Rog on traps - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jozioh )
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cazalla: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
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shinohai: qntra isup 4 me
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mircea_popescu: mod6 so what's the plan, turning stator into a release ?
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thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
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assbot: XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iamc1x )
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shinohai: woo-hoo @ Naphex \o/
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mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 so what's the plan, turning stator into a release ? << Yeah. I believe 'stator' + { eat/dump block, rm testnet & verifyall } should be the 5.4 release unless anything additional is submitted before we can finish testing & bundling release.
punkman: mod6, debug_sanity perhaps?
mod6: As far as testing, so far everything seems to be working ok -- i've fully sync'd 1 stator build, and i've got 2 more full sync's running curretly: one gentoo x86-64 w/glibc & one OpenBSD x86-64 w/glibc
punkman: did anyone try musl yet?
mod6: One of my goals for this week (and I'm running a bit behind) was to create a test matrix for everything that needs to be tested for this forthcoming release. I hope to at least get a start on that here today yet.
shinohai: mod6: is your stator on a pogo?
mod6: <+punkman> mod6, debug_sanity perhaps? << maybe.
mod6: <+punkman> did anyone try musl yet? << yeah, check out ascii's comments from yesterday
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6: is your stator on a pogo? << nope
mod6: Haven't had enough spare time to dig into it. Been hectic enough just trying to keep up with all the incoming patches.
shinohai: i havent gotten past stator 0.5.4 w/blockdump
mod6: ascii only has 3 patches post blockdump (eatblock, rm testnet, verifyall)
mod6: not a huge deal. nothing super critical there, just nice-to-have type of ones.
shinohai: ok, then that is just 2, and testnet isn't important
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mod6: punkman has his debug_sanity, but I hvane't had a chance to test version two, and it's not a super high priority for me at this very moment.
TomServo: mod6: Was your OpenBSD recipe made public somewhere?
mod6: especially if anyone is helping test or whatever and they need debug_sanity they can just apply the patch to their local codebase.
mod6: same as any of the others: dump/eat block, verifiy all etc.
punkman: I'm gonna do debug_sanity part2 too
mod6: TomServo: it's not my recipe. i'll dig it up
assbot: [BTC-dev] openbsd patch ... ( http://bit.ly/1MhDb4G )
shinohai: I shamefully decided yo put all my crap in a github repo. There is no better way right now for me to organize it all.
mod6: punkman: ok cool.
punkman: mod6: any wishes on that front?
mod6: honestly I don't have anything in mind at all.
punkman: I'd really like the debug.log to be parseable, that's the main motivation here
mod6: make something work for you on your end, see if it makes sense, and if it does, perhaps submit the changes.
TomServo: mod6 and Philippe, thanks
mod6: for anything to make it into the next release, the patch must be 100% perfect and apply perfect. if I hvae to do any mental gymnastics or gyrations to apply a patch or whatever, it wont make it in. there's already a large enough scope on this release.
mod6: TomServo: anytime
shinohai: anyone got a arm static binary of stator build?
shinohai: i offer no patches. I control my server 100% with crude shell scripts xD
mthreat: "What other currencies besides Bitcoin have experienced inverse debasement? ('basement'?)"
mod6: Anyway, most of the submissions so far have been pretty top notch. We want to encourage people in the WoT to submit patches. If something is submitted but doesn't make it into a release right away, that certainly doesn't mean it won't be pulled in to a later milestone.
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mod6: I think it's great. If you've got an idea or something you wanna discuss for submission, this is where that type of discussion happens. Keep it up! :]
mod6: phf: keep an eye out for punkman's debug_sanity-part2 -- or maybe you both can coordinate together so that all three of these patches will play together nicely: debug_sanity-part1-corrected, debug_sanity-part2 and milli timestamps
trinque: shinohai: bashops is bestops!
punkman: I thought of incorporating milli timestamps as an option in part2
ben_vulpes: did someone say bashops?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski find someone who's a shareholder, they can do test drives
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ben_vulpes: <punkman> mod6, debug_sanity perhaps? << i've yet to play around with this one in depth
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punkman: ben_vulpes, doesn't do much
punkman: main attraction is removing the wx crap
mod6: which was nice for sure
mod6: that needed to happen at somepoint.
ben_vulpes: <shinohai> I shamefully decided yo put all my crap in a github repo. There is no better way right now for me to organize it all. << you know that you can have a git repo on disk without ever pushing it to shithub?
ben_vulpes: gotta love these rubyists, centralizing all of the decentralized things. shithub, keybase...
ben_vulpes: i blame davout
ben_vulpes: <punkman> I'd really like the debug.log to be parseable, that's the main motivation here << this is an excellent goal. a+ if you crap out an EBNF to go along with it, instead of some "protocol is in the code" parser script.
mod6: i'm gonna throw in debug_sanity-part1-corrected to my next build/sync test, and look at the output/impact of the patch. i should have some more meaningful comments after that.
mod6: doesnt look like that one was generated with -pU either though.
mod6: does stuff like this:
mod6: @@ -45,24 +45,6 @@ Object JSONRPCError(int code, const string& message)
punkman: mod6, -U is the default, not sure how to turn the comments after @@
punkman: (I did -pU, didn't change anything)
punkman: *turn off
ben_vulpes: how does returning an error from a function in bitcoin turn into a line in debug.log?
punkman: printf is redefined as OutputDebugStringF
punkman: which decides whether to write to debug file or print to console
ben_vulpes: unfh okay i get it
punkman: also if you grep for "fprintf(stdout/stderr" you can find some that never go to debug log
ben_vulpes: well this is a whole project, innit.
ben_vulpes: do you have a plan for v2?
punkman: and there's also PrintException, PrintExceptionContinue, error() and more
punkman: I do not have a plan
ben_vulpes: i think i missed the debug sanity feedback threads too.
ben_vulpes: BUT ANYWAYS
mod6: <+punkman> (I did -pU, didn't change anything) << ah ok. git must have stripped that helpful information from the patch. fuck git.
ben_vulpes: so yeah a patch to excise the wx crap is great and wonderful and thank you etc, but i'd like to see it split from changes to logging behavior
mod6: anyway, i'll have to just repatch up everything myself and re-add your changes.
mod6: and then do a `diff -uNr`
ben_vulpes: mod6: does the patch not apply cleanly?
punkman: mod6, what's missing from git output?
mod6: ben_vulpes: the old one did not, because of perhaps something the ML did to the patch; stripping out an empty line at the end of the file.
mod6: <+punkman> mod6, what's missing from git output? << if you used -pU, it doesn't reflect that in the patch
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mod6: diff --git a/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp b/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp
mod6: normally diff will put the flags passed to it into the patch file.
ben_vulpes: but /does it apply cleanly/ ?
mod6: i dunno yet. i haven't tried the new one.
mod6: i want to make it clear that it seems /slightly less readable/ to me because of: @@ -45,24 +45,6 @@ Object JSONRPCError(int code, const string& message) << this type of thing.
punkman: I kinda like that it includes the function name
punkman: I can strip it next time
mod6: i dunno, i guess im just used to the other way.
ben_vulpes: i like it too, but it's probably git stockholm.
punkman: ben_vulpes: git stockholm? what's so bad about git
ben_vulpes: punkman: i live and die by the dvcs, i like it just fine. mod6 hates it for some reason that's unclear to me, so i'm allowing for the possibility that i just have stockholm syndrome.
punkman: btw the sqlite guy has his own versioning system, it's kinda cool http://fossil-scm.org/
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ben_vulpes: a shit that looks nifty
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decimation: there was a baker who makes potica at the farmer's market this morning
decimation: I think in Slovakia it's orechovník
jurov: yes
jurov: and its brother makovník, best stuffed by so much poppy seed that it makes you very sleepy
decimation: and makes you fail drug tests?
jurov: tests for opiates are unheard of here
jurov: and poppy seed is not addictive, just tasty
decimation: I've heard that this is a common problem in the us
decimation: nearly everyone does drug testing here
decimation: even to work at the corner grocery
jurov: !up hazirafel
trinque: openbsd's upgrade process is surprisingly (and refreshingly) easy
trinque: boot installer kernel -> mash enter -> reboot -> sysmerge
trinque: love it
mod6: my obsd 5.6 full sync is up to block: 189480
trinque: nice
mod6: gentoo nomultilib glibc: 322021
mod6: im workin on that test matrix now.
mod6: i've got 22 scenarios worked up
mod6: well, planned 22 so far.
trinque: nice, I am happy to help with that process
trinque: awaiting orders
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decimation: I tried to get stator working on osx 10.6.8 (32-bit macbook1,1)
decimation: boost fails to compile
mod6: cool! thanks. yeah, we're gonna need as much help as we can get testing. and as soon as we have a solid test plan developed, then we'll cut a release candidate for testing.
decimation: I'm going to try to get the macports version
trinque: mod6: I've got an opteron box, pogo, i7, obsd i386, off the top of my head
mod6: We'll be on the R.C. until we're satisfied everything is the way we want it.
mod6: ok great trinque
mod6: i think the arm/pogo stuff is going to be have to be tested separately perhaps.
mod6: i don't/haven't ever setup the buildroot stuff.
mod6: but people could certainly and appreciatedly take this task on for themselfs.
trinque: I've gone through it once, got the turdel served up over telnet
trinque: hm, maybe I can help with that one then
trinque: been wanting to make my pogo do something
mod6: *themselves
trinque: what's called for there? push-button rebuild and deploy of turdel with a newly built bitcoind?
mod6: yeah, i think there will be some further discussion around that. maybe dbp can help head up that side of the testing if he's willing (other than alf) he's probably got the most exp with the thing.
mod6: personally, i'm pretty clueless with the whole thing as of now.
trinque: anyhow, I have weekend cycles and hardware, lemme know what helps
mod6: yeah, there would just be: Scenario: Create static bitcoind via buildroot, tfpt (or whatever??) to device, begin full sync
mod6: or something like that perhaps
trinque nods
mod6: thanks for your offer to help trinque!
trinque: of course
mod6: one other thing I gotta do is update the gentoo-uclibc guide to a new guide for nomultilib glibc, should be fairly easy. then test it on my pos box.
mod6: i'm gonna need another box to test on anyway.
felipelalli: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
trinque: ^imo a news site being ddosed ought to be a matter of pride
trinque: heh
felipelalli: make a paid backup version, like Trilema
felipelalli: keep both online, but when the free version is being attacked at least you have an alternative
felipelalli: or at least a kind of login where you have to sign a challenge with a GPG key L2 > 0 with assbot.
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trinque: felipelalli: were there a gossipd, it'd subsume this whole http mess entirely
trinque: first off, you have the choice of not dealing with people directly, but through any number of.. call 'em "gateway nodes"
trinque: *you being qntra
trinque: second, any node accessing qntra has the option of caching the data and making it available for their own gossipd peers
trinque: throw signatures into the mix and you have a completely unbreakable "website" hosting situation
trinque: the thing utterly needs to exist, and yesterday.
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trinque: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/world/middleeast/saudis-cast-net-for-isis-sympathizers.html << It does appear that the Saudis are quite concerned.
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cazalla: ugh this morning.. i step outside and slip on my ass because the decking is covered in frost.. first one this winter, at least the brusselsprouts will enjoy it
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ben_vulpes: heh cazalla today i stepped outside and went snorkeling in perfectly blue waters
pete_dushenski: heya ben_vulpes
pete_dushenski: can't anyone take a test drive of a tesla model s ?
pete_dushenski: not that there's a dealership anywhere in the province...
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell trinque as well they should be ! saudi royal necks are on the line and isis is all too happen to use that line as a noose.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: pete_dushenski: ayep; good notes on the convo too
pete_dushenski: ya hardly needed much in the way of notes even, twas a moderately thorough discussion
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_modem
ascii_modem: in a chinese bus, in nyc, believe or not
pete_dushenski: will wonders never cease ?
ascii_modem: eh, cheap lulz
pete_dushenski: ascii_modem: you don't seem like the broadway type but i'd be fascinated to know what you might see if you had the time for a show.
pete_dushenski: or mebbe you're more the stand-up comedy club type
ascii_modem: pet is broadway type
ascii_modem: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205870 << wai wut - ?? - no one signed that he has read, tested - and straight to release?
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 18:10:58; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 so what's the plan, turning stator into a release ? << Yeah. I believe 'stator' + { eat/dump block, rm testnet & verifyall } should be the 5.4 release unless anything additional is submitted before we can finish testing & bundling release.
pete_dushenski: u dun understand how the world works.
ascii_modem: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205884 << yes and no. yes, cosmetic; but otoh, it's what i'll be patching against now
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 18:17:48; shinohai: ok, then that is just 2, and testnet isn't important
ascii_modem: (since chairs registered no objection to jettison of testnrt)
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 18:20:24; shinohai: I shamefully decided yo put all my crap in a github repo. There is no better way right now for me to organize it all.
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mod6: <+ascii_modem> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205870 << wai wut - ?? - no one signed that he has read, tested - and straight to release? << I certainly did not mean to imply immediate release. Just that I'll build a test plan surrounding what i've indicated. Process is already underway.
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 18:10:58; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 so what's the plan, turning stator into a release ? << Yeah. I believe 'stator' + { eat/dump block, rm testnet & verifyall } should be the 5.4 release unless anything additional is submitted before we can finish testing & bundling release.
mod6: I still do need to sign that I've read the patches, might get to that tonight yet. Or tomorrow. We'll see how it goes.
mod6: There will be a testing phase with a distributed full-patched bundle... call it RC1.
mod6: There is no time specific timeline for this in the public domain yet.
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ben_vulpes: <decimation> boost fails to compile << i actually ran into this when hacking against solrodar's clang + graphviz callgraph thinger
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell solrodar hey man i need a hand compiling boost in order to test your callgraph visualizer
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;seen solrodar
gribble: solrodar was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <solrodar> trinque: thanks
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pete_dushenski: ^my comment for greenspun.
pete_dushenski: btw has anyone ever invited him here ?
Adlai: !s tenth rule
assbot: 2 results for 'tenth rule' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tenth+rule
Adlai: pete_dushenski: your comment doesn't appear from here
pete_dushenski: huh ? the link works for me.
pete_dushenski: maybe your page needs a refresh
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html << hey jurov couldja sort this by date instead of patch hash?
ben_vulpes: pwetty pwease?
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i don't see your comment either
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ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i don't see your comment either
ben_vulpes: shadowbanned :P
pete_dushenski: lol what else !
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ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you'd know better than i about the test drive. that's just how i got my butt in one.
pete_dushenski: ah neato
pete_dushenski: what you think of it ? worth 80-100k bezzlars ?
cazalla: 100k for a car is such extravagance!
pete_dushenski: it's a fancy trabant, what.
pete_dushenski: you can't tell me 100k isn't the same as a 7 year waiting list
cazalla: don't get me wrong, some of these cars in that price range do look nice but i cannot imagine putting the cash down for it let alone taking a loan
pete_dushenski: meh it's all relative.
ben_vulpes: trabamborghini
pete_dushenski: if you're pulling in 3-4x the price of your car, it's no sweat.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: the one and only.
ben_vulpes: my philosophy on cars is a little odd
ben_vulpes: instead of spending 75k on a car, how about we get 75k worth of...cars?
pete_dushenski: have a whole fleet ! the choices !
ben_vulpes: a sedan, a truck, a gas-guzzling roadster, a mommymobile, a camperwagon...
pete_dushenski: actually this isn't a bad game : name all the cars you'd buy with $75k cash. go !
ben_vulpes: buy them pre-depreciated, and treat them like the capital equipment they are.
pete_dushenski: naturally.
ben_vulpes: anyways, the drivetrain is incorrect. yes, electrical drive is fantastic for the low-end torque, but regen brakes of engineering necessity must clamp down insanely hard in order to maximize current out of the machines.
ben_vulpes: this makes it difficult to finesse the brake.
ben_vulpes: but to return to the drivetrain: if you *insist* on an eletrical drivetrain, look to the Volt for the correct implementation.
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ben_vulpes: piles of low-end torque, backed by a battery that is powered by an ICE generator.
ben_vulpes: that i would pay to have in a truck.
ben_vulpes: thanks, mod6!
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i quite enjoyed the volt
pete_dushenski: drove it/ferried it from vancouver to victoria and back one day
mod6: thanks for the reminder ben_vulpes!
pete_dushenski: the volt was quiet and felt surprisingly well built.
pete_dushenski: those gov grant$ went to good use !
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decimation: the volt was a good idea - except for its price
pete_dushenski: it was a bit dear.
decimation: anywyay pete going to your point last night, I think that's why uk 'top gear' was so popular
decimation: they had the balls to call most of the cars they drove 'crap'
pete_dushenski: that's certainly why i enjoyed tg and i was hardly alone
pete_dushenski: starting out, i modelled by writing on clarkson's
pete_dushenski: who is not only an entertaining presenter but a wicked wordsmith
decimation: he's a showman, no doubt
decimation: that's why the other top gears didn't really work, clarkson made the show
pete_dushenski: totally.
decimation: it's a real shame the whole thing ended the way it did - clarkson being sacked for hitting the incompetent servants
pete_dushenski: looking up prices for porsche 964/993 generation of 911 for '$75 dream garage' and i cannot motherfucking believe how inflated their prices have become in the last 5 years
pete_dushenski: easily 2-2.5x 2010 prices. easily.
decimation: yeah, it's the case for all the 'billionare toys'
pete_dushenski: i almost bought a black japanese import '89 964 in 2010 for ~25k. it would readily command 60k today from what i'm seeing on ebay and autotrader.
pete_dushenski: unbefuckinglievable.
decimation: is it because porsche has 'moved on' to a new design?
pete_dushenski: i'd say so.
pete_dushenski: i wouldn't want a water-cooled porsche.
pete_dushenski: except maybe a 997 gt3.
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pete_dushenski: but the newer ones are all plastic and electronics
pete_dushenski: porsche is about purity and simplicity
pete_dushenski: they've gone 'chinese' this last decade or two.
decimation: lol I didn't realize the old ones were air cooled
pete_dushenski: up until '98
decimation: my dad told me that his dad used to have an air-cooled vw beetle back in the day
decimation: it sucked because there was no cabin heat; they weren't allowed to breathe
decimation: some of the later beetles had a 'gasoline heater' kit
pete_dushenski: lol i was driven to kindergarten in a '71 beetle that was exactly like this.
pete_dushenski: in -30C canadian winters, no less.
cazalla: pete_dushenski, ya got dat dere momo steering wheel bro?
decimation: I would imagine that porsche comes with gas burning heater
pete_dushenski: cazalla: what, in my merc ?
cazalla: i dunno man, just shit stirring.. we need some more green thumbs in #b-a, petrol heads are winning
decimation: cazalla: you grow your own brussel sprouts?
cazalla: decimation, yeah, probably another 4 weeks or so until i can eat em
decimation: you plant them in autumn?
decimation: I love brussel sprouts, I'm not sure it's worth growing them. I guess they are easy to freeze
cazalla: i planted them mid march from memory and yeah, i am not sure it is worth growing them either given limited space.. take a while
cazalla: plus i lose half my gardening area to shade in the winter here.. shitty houses built close together which block out the sun
mod6: i've got 22 tomato plants, 8 pepper plants and 4 cucumbers. tomatoes are starting to ripen...
cazalla: i've got about 20 fava beans, 10 sprouts, bunch of spring onions, rocket and english spinach and i just put some more radish in which should be ready to be pulled once spring arrives
mircea_popescu: grow mint or something cazalla
cazalla: in the spring
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mod6: !up ascii_modem
mod6: punkman: your updated debug_sanity patched fine: http://dpaste.com/1838HVN.txt
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2015 01:36:55; decimation: some of the later beetles had a 'gasoline heater' kit
ben_vulpes to wedding
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mod6: punkman: I get this error when I try to compile with your patch http://dpaste.com/11G00N1.txt
mod6: And for something that's really making my head scratch..
mod6: when I compile with my rm_gitignore patch (http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000125.html) it fails!
mod6: does any one have any clue why removing .gitignore files would cause this?!
mod6: bascially, what I do is; extract v0.5.3.1, patch up through -verifyall then apply the rm_gitignore patch. then this ^^
mod6: wtf
mod6: oh hmm, for some reason, i don't understand this (maybe someone can look at my patch and tell me why??) but apparently not only were the .gitignore files removed, but the directories were too.
mod6: lol. own patch rejected.
decimation: !up hazirafel
mod6: so yah, looks like the patch blows away the obj/nogui dir along with the .gitignore file (it's the only file in the dir at the time - a clue maybe?) but if replaced, the compiles fine.
mod6: does anyone see a reason to keep src/obj-test and src/obj/test ?
mod6: i think those can actually go away, but src/obj/nogui/ needs to stay.
mod6: will resubmit.
mod6: after an actual test.
mod6: i guess src/obj-test needs to stay because of the test stubs & it's ref'd in the makefile. that's fine.
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-07-2015#1182288 < my 'stator' finally completed blk0008.dat, got f7ab989febce649e49f8373f1c5a5fbd44008dd21eaf16ce0d1b73e1070421f0
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 02:54:25; mod6: huh, now i have one chain that has 2 that match and one that differs: f7ab989febce649e49f8373f1c5a5fbd44008dd21eaf16ce0d1b73e1070421f0 blk0008.dat && b1d0da3ff6b2b2d6da096f06cf7359ca98e08490ab61202f94468587f51aaee5 blk0008.dat
mod6: thx decimation
mod6: I don't see any ref's in the makefile to src/obj/test
mod6: i think that one can go away ^^
mod6: maybe i should just leave it for now.
decimation: I haven't looked into that
decimation: re: porsche inflation < http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/03/nyregion/manhattan-real-estate-market-surging-at-years-end.html "Those deals helped push the median sales price for Manhattan condos, including resales, up 14.3 percent to a record $1,320,000, according to the Elliman report." (year 2013)
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assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 04:41:23; decimation: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102477304 < "When it comes to price growth, however, New York topped the list for prime property worldwide, according to Knight Frank. Prices jumped 18 percent in New York in 2014. Aspen, Colorado, ranked second, with prices up 16 percent."
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mod6: this problem is really goofy.
mod6: i can't get it to remove the file and leave the dir, or to just truncate the file and leave the dir.
mod6: lol
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mod6: so that isn't gonna work.
mod6: if anyone has any ideas on this, let me know. im stumped
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