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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6504 @ 0.00040549 = 2.6373 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23496 @ 0.0004021 = 9.4477 BTC [-]
assbot: The slaughtering of a bull. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1G04hKh )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81938 @ 0.0004021 = 32.9473 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 138050 @ 0.00040817 = 56.3479 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119642 @ 0.00040135 = 48.0183 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform finds himself writing a netbsd kernel mod, has approximately same thoughts as fella who wakes up in 'dumpster' in a back alley, 'how i came to this sort of life' ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79700 @ 0.00041424 = 33.0149 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16293 @ 0.00040101 = 6.5337 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116615 @ 0.00040093 = 46.7545 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78200 @ 0.00039733 = 31.0712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44068 @ 0.00041363 = 18.2278 BTC [+] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 4.72435163 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1123/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.00350855 BTC. Current weight: 88,977.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74250 @ 0.0003979 = 29.5441 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71511 @ 0.00039832 = 28.4843 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.0003979 = 3.7204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32058 @ 0.00039733 = 12.7376 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68045 @ 0.0004071 = 27.7011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81300 @ 0.0004071 = 33.0972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.0004071 = 22.7569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48100 @ 0.00039733 = 19.1116 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51136 @ 0.00039733 = 20.3179 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61500 @ 0.000396 = 24.354 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70262 @ 0.00039454 = 27.7212 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 202788 @ 0.00038612 = 78.3005 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75750 @ 0.00038399 = 29.0872 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39100 @ 0.00037398 = 14.6226 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122950 @ 0.00037398 = 45.9808 BTC [-]
cazalla: ;;later tell vexual sorry, was afk
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51000 @ 0.00037437 = 19.0929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116100 @ 0.00037737 = 43.8127 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26524 @ 0.00037923 = 10.0587 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300437 @ 0.00037863 = 113.7545 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37945 @ 0.00037387 = 14.1865 BTC [-]
cazalla: airgapped, you're gonna need a cloak
cazalla: damn, Luke-Jr getting raped by /r/bitcoin
thestringpuller: time to bring up r/bitcoin
thestringpuller: i'm so tiiiired
danielpbarron: height=232713 vs height=193913
cazalla: i tell ya, there is something more to having a piss in the fresh night air compared to using traditional toilet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57559 @ 0.00040553 = 23.3419 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00041374 = 19.5285 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12541 @ 0.00041509 = 5.2056 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45750 @ 0.00037387 = 17.1046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.000381 = 4.3053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68100 @ 0.00037372 = 25.4503 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22137 @ 0.000381 = 8.4342 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up mogreen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110113 @ 0.00038401 = 42.2845 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021645 B (Total: 473.33 B). Delta: 1.44 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000206 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;calc 21645*1.01
gribble: 21861.45
assbot: Optimize block validation code and block propagation speed by gavinandresen · Pull Request #5835 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JUpR5U )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00038573 = 3.1051 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up CheckDavid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49900 @ 0.00039708 = 19.8143 BTC [+]
punkman: "The hedge fund robots are winning again. That's a key lesson from 2014, when computer algorithm-led investing produced stellar returns, beating most gut-driven human managers and dramatically recovering most of their losses from 2011, 2012 and 2013."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00037326 = 16.4421 BTC [-]
mike_c: hehe. four years and we've almost broken even?
adlai: punkman: who's the antecedent of '<their> losses'?
punkman: adlai: the robots?
adlai: so much for the uprising
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66000 @ 0.00038187 = 25.2034 BTC [+]
assbot: BBC News - Google backs down over Blogger porn rule change ... ( http://bit.ly/1DZk0qU )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100450 @ 0.00039165 = 39.3412 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.0003943 = 7.2946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00039493 = 11.3542 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100450 @ 0.00039165 = 39.3412 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00038889 = 2.5861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54258 @ 0.00039838 = 21.6153 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: cazalla: i tell ya, there is something more to having a piss in the << this. so much this. sometimes with nice bathroom available, I will go outside and pee in the woods late at night.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8402 @ 0.00040097 = 3.3689 BTC [+]
adlai .o( do the bathrooms in Aurora have simulated breeze? )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45050 @ 0.00040515 = 18.252 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: benkay (~benkay@unaffiliated/benkay) has joined #bitcoin-assets << divorced ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144585 @ 0.00041278 = 59.6818 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> benkay (~benkay@unaffiliated/benkay) has joined #bitcoin-assets << divorced ? << Could also be some old resurfacing as he dicks around with his bouncer
BingoBoingo was going to refer to it as a bounder
ben_vulpes: oi mate i don't dick around with bounders
ben_vulpes: whaddaya take me for, some kind of poofy oz?
mircea_popescu: Amour sacre de la Patri-e-e
mircea_popescu: Conduis, soutiens nos bras vengeurs!
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: divorcing my bouncer.
mircea_popescu: Liberté, Liberté chérie !
mircea_popescu: Combats avec tes défenseurs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: le jour de gloire est arrivé ?
mircea_popescu: hehe not yet.
mircea_popescu: still, checking up on everybody's atin.
asciilifeform: !s dan quayle
assbot: 0 results for 'dan quayle' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dan+quayle
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79536 @ 0.00040422 = 32.15 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: 'I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people.'
ben_vulpes: anyways for the record, feel free to query me at any time for a signature.
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: mpex already does this w/o being a derp
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: i really don't see what mpex has to do with freenode's swiss cheese.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8176 @ 0.00038889 = 3.1796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70990 @ 0.00038428 = 27.28 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.39, Best ask: 251.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 251.42, 24 hour volume: 19729.73522319, 24 hour low: 235.54, 24 hour high: 256.02, 24 hour vwap: 248.820525917
adlai: otc trading WoT with a couple order of magnitudes more nodes could make an excellent cryptohawala-done-right
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00041512 = 11.1252 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83417 @ 0.00041529 = 34.6422 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: re: cryptohawala <<< I'm certain most of the L1 and L2 nodes have their local "crypto hawala" guy
PeterL: BingoBoingo: in gpg article, 3rd paragraph, s/labels of on set of GUI buttons./labels of one sert of GUI buttons
PeterL: bah, "one set"
assbot: GPG Criticism Reaches New Low As Use Cases Expand | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1DhVIEE )
mircea_popescu: except i didn't, i sent the guy a comment on his blog, which he never published iirc
mircea_popescu: wtf is with this guy.,
BingoBoingo: "Knows how the world works"
BingoBoingo: Unlike Putin
BingoBoingo: Has expectations, ignores ettiquette, because ettiquette 2.0 depreceates all of version 1
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
assbot: Chinese Yuan Passes Australian, Canadian, Hong Kong Dollars in International Use | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1JVgsuW )
BingoBoingo: "On Tuesday morning, Schweich confided in Post-Dispatch Editorial Page Editor Tony Messenger that he believed that John Hancock, the newly elected chairman of the Missouri Republican Party, had spread disinformation about Schweich’s religion. That topic was what Schweich wanted to discuss with reporters for the Post-Dispatch and the Associated Press Thursday." http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/auditor-schweich-
BingoBoingo: had-called-seeking-an-interview-just-before-his/article_879ddcd7-c997-5df3-bc61-39282c4f7434.html
fluffypony: Leonard Nimoy died :(
mircea_popescu: naturally ?
fluffypony: end-stage chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
mircea_popescu: eighty yo guy, mr spock.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Di0e65 )
mircea_popescu: !up airgapped
mike_c: give him a minute, he's transferring messages by QR code
mike_c: i was just poking a little fun at his nick :) don't know him.
mike_c: but if he is doing that, it would be awesome
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37557 @ 0.00041528 = 15.5967 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51961 @ 0.0004172 = 21.6781 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 14:44:46; mike_c: google blinked. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31659669
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55300 @ 0.00041173 = 22.7687 BTC [-]
mike_c: yeah, turns out they realized where their bread is buttered :)
mircea_popescu: i can only imagine the gamergate bureaucrats that managed to push their "idea" through to the degree.
BingoBoingo: !up nubbins`
airgapped: hi there, got the message through the scaner :-)
mircea_popescu: well done!
airgapped: I'm new here
mircea_popescu: take pics of the process put up on your blog ?
mircea_popescu: like a detailed how to guide ?
mircea_popescu: "this is the scanner, this is how much it cost, where you get it, this is so and so" ?
airgapped: will do :-)
airgapped: was reading logs, looks like you have a great time hanging out here...
nubbins`: hi airgapped
airgapped: nubbins`: hi
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16824 @ 0.00041629 = 7.0037 BTC [+]
adlai: no qntra on https://www.havelockinvestments.com/ "maintenance" yet?
assbot: Havelock Investments ... ( http://bit.ly/1wv0d1Y )
BingoBoingo: adlai: How long have they been down?
adlai: !s havelock from:assbot
assbot: 67865 results for 'havelock from:assbot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=havelock+from%3Aassbot
adlai: been dead a week by now
adlai: corpse starting to stink, neh? somebody gotta take this out
BingoBoingo: adlai: You are welcome to write it up if you've been following it. Just following hovelcocks drama hasn't been a priority for me.
nubbins`: ;;seen topace
gribble: topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, 7 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <topace> heh
nubbins`: ^ about sums it up
nubbins`: adlai given their complete ignorance of basic security, it's probably all gone
adlai thinks he sees their funds sitting rather still for the past few days
assbot: HAVELOCK INVESTMENTS - Site will be down for maintenance until further notice. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmeNmP )
nubbins`: they've been examining their logs for about a week now
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
nubbins`: i literally cleared my forum inbox yesterday, or i'd be able to paste PMs between me and lightbox about the CSRF vulnerability that was on the live site for like a year
nubbins`: literally, logged-in user clicks the wrong link, poof, everything gone
nubbins`: too many literallys, but at least i'm using them correctly ;/
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: eighty yo guy, mr spock. << kirk is old af too
thestringpuller: !up nubbins`
assbot: ***VodPonzi*** Invest your bitcointalk accounts and earn 20% activity!!!!1! ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmfYml )
ascii_field: 'mmm' !
assbot: Logged on 20-11-2014 17:06:13; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the correct angle there is to compare to MMM
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Being worked towards, need the right lol fiat story
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15776 @ 0.00041629 = 6.5674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31424 @ 0.0004173 = 13.1132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96200 @ 0.00041173 = 39.6084 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79550 @ 0.0004173 = 33.1962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8669 @ 0.00041173 = 3.5693 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70981 @ 0.00040963 = 29.0759 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ^ de-turdified version
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 18:25:39; ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/2015/02/wapo-BillCaseyHoneyPot.htm << mega-trololol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88569 @ 0.00040963 = 36.2805 BTC [-]
ascii_field: epic lulz in the new one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00040138 = 4.074 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: some reasonably specific claims in there
ascii_field: re: satellite pics
ascii_field: (grep for TRIPOD)
ascii_field: 'I'll EVEN SHARE UAC with you - hey - it's just 36 bytes and you're in - I'll say
ascii_field: this - Cornell sure makes some FINE optics - and that baby will be up for - I
ascii_field: THINK it's 2022 life span - only a handful of people got UAC - I helped burn it
ascii_field: - so I have it - oh - the DANGERS of OUTSOURCING INTELLIGENCE to PRIVATE
ascii_field: CONTRACTORS eh '
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00040138 = 5.7197 BTC [-]
PeterL: !up ascii_field
PeterL: !up hktud0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31128 @ 0.0003988 = 12.4138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142805 @ 0.00040145 = 57.3291 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40517 @ 0.00040886 = 16.5658 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: lol, state secret is embarassment
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: reads like a sad joke, no?
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: but almost certainly genuine. remember Quadro Tracker ?
ascii_field: !s Quadro Tracker
assbot: 0 results for 'Quadro Tracker' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Quadro+Tracker
ascii_field: ;;google Quadro Tracker
gribble: Quadro Tracker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro_Tracker>; the Quadro Tracker - The Skeptic's Dictionary: <http://skepdic.com/quadro.html>; Quadro Crime Tracker - Sniggle.net: <https://sniggle.net/quadro.php>
assbot: In Iraq, the Bomb-Detecting Device That Didn't Work, Except to Make Money - Businessweek ... ( http://bit.ly/1vH0JJv )
BingoBoingo: It really does. I remember other products in the quadrotracker vein
BingoBoingo: ^ That bomb dowser I do remember
ascii_field: 'The Tracker consisted of a handheld unit, with an antenna mounted on a plastic handgrip, and a belt-mounted box slightly smaller than a VHS cassette, built to contain “carbo-crystallized” software cards programmed, Quattlebaum said, with the specific frequency of whatever the user wished to find. No batteries were necessary. The Tracker was powered by the static electricity created by the operator’s own body;
ascii_field: when it found what it was looking for, the antenna automatically turned to point at its quarry. Prices for the device varied from $395 for a basic model to $8,000 for one capable of locating individual human beings, which required a Polaroid photograph of the person to be loaded into the programming box. Quadro’s golf ball-finding variant, the Gopher, was available by mail order for just $69.'
ascii_field: ^ quoted for the lulzrecord
ascii_field: but i'll note that the traditional interpretation of this story ('look how gullible is usg') is nonsense
ascii_field: it's a meritwash/laundry
danielpbarron: it had me until "Polaroid"
ascii_field: you and i, if we were to try to sell usg a divination rod, would get laughed out
ascii_field: not even to jail - to psych ward
ascii_field: the racket is open to 'favourite sons' exclusively.
danielpbarron: !up shesek
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54871 @ 0.00040921 = 22.4538 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: sata: height=233739 usb3: height=233591
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121892 @ 0.0004045 = 49.3053 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44000 @ 0.00040331 = 17.7456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62650 @ 0.00040319 = 25.2599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26550 @ 0.00040319 = 10.7047 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1123/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 10(Y):90(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.00350855 BTC. Current weight: 87,048.
[]bot: Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1123/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 10(Y):90(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.00350855 BTC. Current weight: 87,048.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00040322 = 9.7781 BTC [+] {2}
gabriel_laddel: .furrybait
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42292 @ 0.00040659 = 17.1955 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: You are blocked from following @semanticist and viewing @semanticist's Tweets. Learn more << racking up cool points :D
thestringpuller: lol is that the twitter version squelch?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50614 @ 0.00041026 = 20.7649 BTC [+]
cazalla: for anyone that recalls shrem's attempt to lure investors into a scheme last month.. it already shut.. weeks ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=906838.msg10370543#msg10370543
assbot: -- CLOSED -- ActionCrypto.com Options Signature Campaign*Earn 0.10 btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHfkEE )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76359 @ 0.00040906 = 31.2354 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65300 @ 0.00039664 = 25.9006 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up Stunna
BingoBoingo: Hello Stunna
Stunna: hey
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts this fine time of day?
Stunna: not much, just started using IRC again recently
BingoBoingo: Cool, you are the prime dice guy right?
Stunna: yup
BingoBoingo: Stunna: Is there a public key available from which you could sign a message establishing this?
BingoBoingo: If there is that would be super
Stunna: I can't do that at the moment, you could message me on bitcointalk though for the time being
assbot: View the profile of Stunna ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHkDUA )
BingoBoingo: Stunna I prefer not to send any text through bitcointalk given Theymos's behavior these past two years. It's fine though if you might be able to do it later.
Stunna: refresh my profile
Stunna: and view "other contact info"
BingoBoingo: Oh, hai
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: yo
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: do you have a btc address handy?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: For what purpose?
gabriel_laddel: I want to try sending you some coin from the account I just put together on prime dice
gabriel_laddel: which took all of like 11 seconds
gabriel_laddel: Stunna: are you seriously giving away btc?
danielpbarron: lol @ "check my bitcointalk for auth"
gabriel_laddel: danielpbarron: same question I just posed to BingoBoingo
gabriel_laddel: danielpbarron: got an account handy?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: The thing is I don't like doing the escrow thing. To discourage that I charge too much to make the choice of myself as an escrow economical
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: No escrow
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: It isn't absolute, but it is enough to lend me to believe his is credibly atm who he says
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: he appears to be giving away free bitcoin, and all you have to do to get an account is supply and IP and a stupid little "read the letters thing"
danielpbarron: it's just funny what the rest of the world thinks is a reasonable identification
gabriel_laddel: that I know can be solved by an OCR program running on my pc right now
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: As I understand it now you are totally requesting and escrow service where I would have to recieve BTC on your behalf
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: not on my behalf, for free
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: from an account I just made
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Phree
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: whatever.
danielpbarron: i gave him my MEAT trading address :D
gabriel_laddel: danielpbarron: ty.
gabriel_laddel: danielpbarron: and there we go, he only let's you pull yout over 0.001 BTC
Stunna: The amount given away is pretty minimal due to botters
BingoBoingo: Stunna's been running his dice thing for quite some time. Never used it, but its enough to open an opportunity to interpret what he is doin charitably.
Stunna: we give people a significant amount more if they've wagered one coin though
Stunna: and it progresses as a user wagers more and gains levels
gabriel_laddel: Stunna: This is why I was asking. Google's OCR will solve your CAPCHA.
gabriel_laddel: and generating names is... easy.
BingoBoingo not really a dice person. More into event betting.
asciilifeform: sucker bait?
asciilifeform must've logged in through the box connected to time warp modem, to 2011
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I checked. No sub $31 BTC to be had today
asciilifeform: the sucker bait's $0
asciilifeform: so technically - false
Stunna: gabriel_laddel: yup it definitely could
Stunna: You wouldn't make enough to be worth your while though on fresh accounts
Stunna: and all the high leveled accounts that bot it end up getting banned
gabriel_laddel is confused as to why anyone would play dice online
asciilifeform likewise confused
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: Our confusion is Chinese recreation
BingoBoingo: When just dice was a thing, the Chicoms loved it
gabriel_laddel: ;; ud Chinese recreation
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Parks+and+Recreation | Cast includes Amy Poelher, Nick Offerman, Aziz Ansari etc. Guy 1: What are you watching? Guy 2: Just watching the best show ever Parks and Recreation.
BingoBoingo: Stunna: What's your read on the Micon/Poker business?
danielpbarron: not usually a fan of TV, but I do like that show ^
Stunna: I talked to him via PM briefly, what he said happened definitely seems genuine
Stunna: he's working on his new site
BingoBoingo: Amazing how the US is going to shit isn't it.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
asciilifeform: http://www.aif.ru/society/law/1457211 << lulz. seven citizens of spain who fought for ua rebels and returned home - arrested for 'violating the neutrality of spain' and 'violation of sovereign nation'
assbot: В Испании прошли облавы на участников войны в Донбассе | Право | Общество | Аргументы и Факты ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHp3uI )
asciilifeform: the first, article claims, such arrest in europe.
asciilifeform: especially funny that - spain.
BingoBoingo: Well, Franco was a trendsetter
asciilifeform: iirc sp technically never made peace with ru.
gabriel_laddel: The daughters Schwartz were walking home, and see a sign "Become Catholic, receive $50"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If your shiva hands have time to do a quick irony piece... qntra...
gabriel_laddel: Eliana: Wow, 50! Let's try it out
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hard to stretch that to fit qntra news theme, methinks
gabriel_laddel: * Eliana enters the church while Abigail waits outside. *
gabriel_laddel: Eliana returns. "Well did it work?"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: With your standards for blog text probably would be hard to stretch it into something satisfying you as an author.
BingoBoingo: Just hard to say what one thinks of the prior day's destractions when they wake the next day.
gabriel_laddel: "Nope. All he did was sprinkle some holy water on me and say 'your father in heaven accepts you. Amen'"
gabriel_laddel: "Well did you get the $50?"
gabriel_laddel: Eliana: "All you jews think about is money!"
BingoBoingo still thinks of BTC related use for numbers station
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Maybe consider less descriptive quit messages?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: he didn't quit
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: CLient did, apparently violently
BingoBoingo: !up Stunna
Stunna: sorry, on very lousy internet
BingoBoingo: Stunna: Some asshole has a DoS bot running
danielpbarron: he is still connected to freenode
BingoBoingo: * gabriel_laddel [redated] has left #bitcoin-assets ("Killed buffer")
Stunna: BingoBoingo: don't think it's related to that, the internet I've been using past few days has been dying on me every 20mins or so
BingoBoingo: Stunna: Ah,
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132105 @ 0.00039848 = 52.6412 BTC [+]
assbot: PAINs And Good Old Med Chem. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHsUrD )
BingoBoingo: "How about thalidamide? Thalidamide appears inactive in NCI-60 screens and appears to fail to inhibit angiogensis in in vitro screen. Thalidamide tested in vivo, however, significantly inhibits tumor growth in xenograft models that use multiple myeloma, esophageal squamous cell carcinoma, lung cancer, cervical cancer, and melanoma. Thalidamide when dosed in combo with bevacizumab and docetaxel showed remarkable efficacy in phase I
BingoBoingo: I trials." ^
BingoBoingo: Probably my favorite blog comment in history http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8472
assbot: Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHudH2 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00039706 = 16.478 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: what a scam. i lost my free 200 satoshis on the first roll
mike_c: Stunna: that must be working for you. genius idea.
mike_c: omg. and you're getting some back from ads. fricking genius.
Stunna: mike_c: A very very small amount back
mike_c: yeah, but, it's only 200 satoshis. Is that method working for you guys? not sure how long you've been doing the faucet.
Stunna: It's 200 satoshis until you've wagered 1BTC
Stunna: as an anti-bot measure, then it steps up quite considerably
Stunna: as you gain levels
mike_c: even still. just letting people play without having to deposit first seems like a great idea.
mike_c: by the time you lose it, you're maybe hooked.
BingoBoingo: Seems like a way to keep people playing a game where "advanced" play is simply botting your balance to 0 faster. Honest stuff.
mike_c: ;;calc (2 / 1000) - (.000002 * [ticker --last])
gribble: 0.001494
mike_c: ^ 200 satoshis is worth less than an ad view at $2 cpm
mike_c: so it's like, free to give away
BingoBoingo: Basically it seems. Changetip territory
mircea_popescu: hmmm anyone want josh-zerlan.com ?
mircea_popescu: i guess nobody gives a shit about bfl anymore huh
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aren't they liquidating on craigslist?
BingoBoingo trying to drunkwatch the newly public domain citizenfour
mircea_popescu: i dunno lol
assbot: Nakam - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BomNtc )
BingoBoingo: lol, snowden with the blanket over the head
BingoBoingo: lol fire alarm
BingoBoingo: Per the film Snowden was fingered much earlier than news stories suggest
trinque: !v deedbot-
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
trinque: erp
trinque: !up d9b4bef9
assbot: Tetris in SPARK on ARM Cortex M4 - The AdaCore Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHKyeU )
trinque: god damn it :p
trinque: !up deedbot-
deedbot-: imported: FC66C0C5D98C42A1D4A98B6B42F9985AFAB953C4
deedbot-: accepted: 1
trinque: ^ demo
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHLkZi )
trinque: if anyone wants to eyeball that and give feedback, please do
trinque: provided this is doing what's desired I'll cron job the publishing part
asciilifeform: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~puk/tetris.txt << from comments, tetris in traditional ada
trinque: other than that, I need to build the part that announces the new bundle link in here
cazalla: so i made a bitbet under the influence and couldn't fund it until later, i assume 0 conf address listed for it in /propositions/ is the address of which i need to fund?
trinque: and now that bundle is published
trinque: I also need to automate it being aware of having been sent new funds; it keeps its own count
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90950 @ 0.00041108 = 37.3877 BTC [+]
trinque: so I have to insert new funding txns into its transaction table
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5604 @ 0.00040829 = 2.2881 BTC [-]
trinque: asciilifeform: looks a lot like plpgsql
trinque: I'm sure the relationship goes the other way round
asciilifeform entirely innocent of above, cannot comment
asciilifeform notes that ada draft dates to '79
BingoBoingo: !up chatquack
BingoBoingo: Greenwald and hour in totally has shitgnome smell
trinque: asciilifeform: oracle squeezed out plsql in 91
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they used the real one ?!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Appears to be actual HK snowden tape for much of the film
asciilifeform for some reason thought it was a hollywood production
trinque: greenwald has that smug sjw vibe to him
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seems to be actual documentary
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pins snowden as suspected well before unveilling
trinque: BingoBoingo: you think snowden's an act?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Not snowden, watching film as presented Greenwald probably an act
trinque: how so?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Public domain because court. Torrent at leisure
trinque: yeah I watched it
trinque: just curious as to what you think greenwald's upt o
trinque: snowden looked genuinely flushed with fear at the fire alarm
trinque: hard to fake
asciilifeform: up to << sitting on the docs pile ?
asciilifeform: like other bipedal turds (e.g., schneier)
trinque: mmm, he could be the guy limiting the hang-out?
asciilifeform: everyone with access to the goods who hasn't dumped them to public unredacted and whole is ipso facto part of that set.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Snowden seemed panic'd Greenwald seemed something other.
trinque: could be
BingoBoingo not finished with film
BingoBoingo: Greenwald jsut seems stressed at the wrong times
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what reason is there to think that the film is of actual events ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The part where snowden seems aspie clumsie as opposed to trained actor clumsy suggests this just might be historical snowden
trinque: flushing with fear on command is to my knowledge not possible
asciilifeform: as if one can't get arbitrarily clumsy theatre student
asciilifeform: trinque: point an actual loaded rifle at the actor. optionally, fire over his head. was actually done in su on at least one film set
trinque: snowden could've been handled the whole way
trinque: !up deedbot-
trinque: asciilifeform: true
asciilifeform: (naturally, in a scene where this is not expected, and out of edge of camera)
trinque: ultimately this functions very well, constructed or not, right?
trinque: there was some "big leak" recently that stank of intelligence agency
trinque: obviously a new channel through which to broadcast that which must be assumed to be true, because it's "leaked!"
BingoBoingo is leaning towards authentic on the accumulation of amateurisms actor and camera.
asciilifeform: new channel << lol!
asciilifeform: !s hangout
assbot: 42 results for 'hangout' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hangout
trinque: asciilifeform: I mean the social news cycle fad "leak" is now established
asciilifeform: the 'new' dates to at least... richelieu.
trinque: sure, I guess I was talking about in the context of modern US politics
BingoBoingo: Film definitely points to a leak in the hotel room
trinque: but you're right
BingoBoingo: !up nanotube
BingoBoingo: Hour 20 so in Guardian censors shown at work
asciilifeform: the living ones ?
asciilifeform: filmed with what, arse cam ?
BingoBoingo: appears to have been flattering arse cam "heroic angle" edition
assbot: 1. Getting Started with SPARK — SPARK 2014 Toolset User's Guide 16.0.0w documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ak5e87 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.0004082 = 19.5936 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74550 @ 0.00040227 = 29.9892 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wanna write the first provably-correct pgp ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: when did you become a fan of provably anything software?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It would be at least a couple years out
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've historically been a skeptic of 'provably' whatevers, because the required furniture, in my experience, never failed to interfere with 'fits in head' - and the promised are often overblown
asciilifeform: *promises
asciilifeform: but so long as your expectations are realistic, something like what's described in earlier link (an excruciatingly-fascist subset of ada) doesn't hurt
ben_vulpes: excruciating subset doesn't hurt?
asciilifeform: well, stops hurting after your arse dilates to fit
ben_vulpes: paha.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Looking like might be necessary
asciilifeform: i can't recommend this for 'tetris' (that was a homework)
asciilifeform: but for something like a battlefield bitcoind, this kind of thing probably cannot be avoided.
ben_vulpes: cannot be avoided?
ben_vulpes: thing works, what.
asciilifeform: lol works
asciilifeform: would you bet a planet on that ?
ben_vulpes: i've not the planet.
asciilifeform: even a lowly airplane has triple+ majority-circuit cpu
asciilifeform: a fucking airplane.
ben_vulpes: well bitcoin ain't an airplane.
asciilifeform: where only some piddling 300 life insurance policies have to be paid out
ben_vulpes: the life insurance policies are dwarfed by the operational costs and value of the machine in question.
BingoBoingo: !s power rangers
assbot: 56 results for 'power rangers' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=power+rangers
ben_vulpes: perhaps talk to others who are risking 'a planet' worth of btc already on...extant btc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: depends who's aboard
ben_vulpes: my point is that large fractions of a planet's worth of btc are already bet on btc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: kings, queens in the past sailed on vessels that no one in their right mind would climb on today
asciilifeform: what of that.
ben_vulpes: anyways, it's fri.
asciilifeform: they let the 'doctors' bleed them, too.
ben_vulpes: wine and sutff calls.
BingoBoingo: Ah, movie has film of grinding boards
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5835#issuecomment-76318668 for depths of Gavin's optimizing away security.
assbot: Optimize block validation code and block propagation speed by gavinandresen · Pull Request #5835 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXq0FQ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00040306 = 13.8653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26909 @ 0.00040896 = 11.0047 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10491 @ 0.00041437 = 4.3472 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: re: proof: studious readers of log may recall the old thread where we spoke of general-case attributes of a proggy being unprovable
asciilifeform: (this trivially follows from turing's 'halting theorem.' no need to invoke herr gödel even.)
asciilifeform: but you can still do a few useful tricks like taint/flow analysis
asciilifeform: e.g., show that output of ecdsa signing routine can only be affected by the given parameters and not by anything else
asciilifeform: this naturally rests on the 'turtles' and 'elephants' of your priors, e.g. hardware functioning as printed on the box, and so on
asciilifeform: so not a magical guarantee (want guarantees, pray to the gods?)
asciilifeform: but still light-years ahead of just-winging-it-in-c, so long as the required 'furniture' isn't fifty pounds of fetid haskellian squigglies printed on telephone book paper
asciilifeform: but something that looks more like a programming lang you might've learned as a kid.
asciilifeform: and the result 'fits in head'
BingoBoingo: Hour 45 in Snowden iitator is described as hanging self
BingoBoingo: metaphorically
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506836 << example of me vomiting at proof-of-anything. but it seems to me now that there were not one but two usg 'monasteries' where the concept was developed
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 02:58:15; asciilifeform: the entire field, giving its history and monetary incentives, is a poisonous offering.
asciilifeform: one, academia, where they spew obscurantist haskellian garbage that serves solely to make perpetrators 'look smart' and pull each other's cocks;
asciilifeform: and another where the rocket actually gets flown on occasion
asciilifeform: and heads (at least once did) roll upon failure
asciilifeform: this is merely a hypothesis in my mind, i'm putting it here for others to ponder.
asciilifeform: call it megalomania, but i'm fascinated with a certain kind of engineering
BingoBoingo: So first hour of citizenfour, maybe valuable hsitorical aritifact same for last 10 minutes. Middle portion agrandizes names lacking justification for such
asciilifeform: as in, how would you engineer if, were your creations to fail, everything you have ever loved will be tortured and killed by nazi cannibals for the rest of eternity; every truth you hold dear will be buried and never seen again, etc, etc
BingoBoingo: Obummer specificaly indicted several times
BingoBoingo: Final portion of film with Snowden very different in journalist behavior from inital portion with presumably historic snowden
asciilifeform: how would you engineer if every morning you got to see a colleague slowly lowered into a piraña tank for having made a mistake ?
BingoBoingo: Clear subtext of final 10 minutes is that aspiring Snowden 2.0 ended dead or on anthill
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34006 @ 0.00040162 = 13.6575 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo to downtime and reflecting on further paranoia
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32144 @ 0.0003998 = 12.8512 BTC [-]
trinque: asciilifeform: we just need to take on problems with actual risk
asciilifeform: trinque: elaborate
trinque: king says I want a moon base
trinque: everyone's making app things
trinque: or flipping burgers
asciilifeform: king, if he has any sense, begins with 'i want a tetris and underlying stack that doesn't crash, and if it does, you+extended family get intimate with anthills'
trinque: I think we'll benefit greatly from the hostility of space
asciilifeform: try the ice cap training wheels first.
trinque: maybe we're fat and lazy because earth hasn't put up enough of a fight
trinque: I tend to pine for some period of harsh weather and natural disasters as yeah, training wheels
asciilifeform: the best fight is put up by 'homo homini lupus est'
asciilifeform: weather doesn't plan to kill you.
trinque: that is true
asciilifeform is firm believer in 'war is the father of all' (TM)
trinque: we are certainly not grazing animals, nor should we behave like them
trinque: asciilifeform: less wolf than social insect though isn't it?
trinque: perhaps if they fought each other for social position
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76400 @ 0.00040585 = 31.0069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00041437 = 9.1576 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139706 @ 0.00039756 = 55.5415 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2994 @ 0.00039649 = 1.1871 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11509 @ 0.00041437 = 4.769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25670 @ 0.00041666 = 10.6957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74256 @ 0.00039649 = 29.4418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46844 @ 0.00039377 = 18.4458 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Quattlebaum is an awesome Richter name.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035594 << would you say the same of the original richter ? he was an immigrant.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 20:45:01; ascii_field: the racket is open to 'favourite sons' exclusively.
asciilifeform: which richter
mircea_popescu: the heamul project one. you recall, generalissimo peron was going to get cold fusion going.
asciilifeform: outside of usg - rules different, sure; foreigners invited to work their magic
asciilifeform: even usg, in the not too distant past, did this
asciilifeform: (germans, etc)
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 23:29:14; cazalla: for anyone that recalls shrem's attempt to lure investors into a scheme last month.. it already shut.. weeks ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=906838.msg10370543#msg10370543
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69956 @ 0.00039377 = 27.5466 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uh, not what i meant. peron's usg is an usg exactly like obama's usg, right ?
mircea_popescu: or is one special among all the idiot bureaucracies for reasons (tm)
asciilifeform: just pointing out bureaucracy functioning in a particular mode of idiocy
mircea_popescu: but wait.
asciilifeform: inviting cranks from abroad - altogether different ballgame from locally cultivated cynical graft
mircea_popescu: obviously they'd operate on a (being scammed) to (merit washing) continuum. it won't be either 0% or 100%.
mircea_popescu: it'll be in between. right ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45494 @ 0.00039182 = 17.8255 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: in any given instance of meritwash, somebody's being chumped (various folks who swallow the snake oil)
mircea_popescu: no, the govt itself.
asciilifeform: as a logical entity - sure
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035660 << kinda the problem with giveaways : they attract exactly the scum, those you specifically do not want to deal with.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 23:59:53; Stunna: The amount given away is pretty minimal due to botters
mircea_popescu: whether actual bots or just human equivalents.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would guess that the successful instances of actual merit wash, as opposed to usg being straight scammed, to be under 10%.
mircea_popescu: that pellet of usd that htey lost in iraq, that went to the arabs more than to the pansy ass sons of - sons of whom anyway ? patreus ?
asciilifeform: thing is, with scam, the question is always 'why does this fella get to run this scam and not some other'
asciilifeform: not always there is a logical answer, granted
mircea_popescu: "why does this guy take the slut home and not some other ?"
asciilifeform: not even always this level of answer
mircea_popescu: if you ask the slut, often enough it's because "he's the only one that asked, and i was getting bored"
asciilifeform: but sometimes - there is.
asciilifeform: because, in a well-cultivated sc4mz0r0cr4cy with multigenerational rackets, there is usually an established pecking order
asciilifeform: and dynasties
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 00:12:16; asciilifeform: iirc sp technically never made peace with ru.
assbot: Delco Remy Division - Product History - Missile Battery ... ( http://bit.ly/1LTO1t0 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. the thing about them orders and dynasties is... they do not work.
asciilifeform: ^ these folks are -still- making it
asciilifeform: platinum-iridium toilet
asciilifeform: not mere gold.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now -that's- interesting. got a link to the treaty ?
mircea_popescu: for every 10 bux of this there's 100 bux of "we got raped and had to pay the rapist for his cab fare"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform Посольство Испании ул. Большая Никитская, 50/8, Москва, Rusia, 121069 ‎
mircea_popescu: ya know ?
asciilifeform: ^ could co-exist with a technically unfinished state of war
asciilifeform: otoh the original war was never declared, iirc
asciilifeform: so whole line of thought goes nowhere
mircea_popescu: well im not really THAT into it, but i recall part of the eu assumption conditions was "no territorial disputes and no unresolved conflicts"
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 00:51:31; mike_c: ^ 200 satoshis is worth less than an ad view at $2 cpm
asciilifeform - as ben_vulpes will be entertained to learn - just opened a 'macbook air' in dire need of a modern-sized drive to discover that said box made use of an obscure type of disk interface previously unknown to him, with aftermarket units only available from cn
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035767 << could the command be less verbose ? no : and no add- whatever. make it like deedbot- deed http://etc
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 01:51:12; trinque: ^ demo
asciilifeform only opened it because had an ssd from visually identical machine of the same make, which turned out to be incompatible.
trinque: mircea_popescu: certainly
asciilifeform: what does ben_vulpes do with his apple boxen? just throws them out when disk fills ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035866 << read your policy carefully. plenty actually don't pay if you get airplane killed.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 02:56:12; asciilifeform: where only some piddling 300 life insurance policies have to be paid out
asciilifeform unsurprised, recalls a list of similar gotchas that added up to 'give us money because you're retarded'
asciilifeform: but basic point is that machine doesn't just cost what machine costs, but some actuarial numbers based on what the corpses' legal reps are likely to attempt/achieve
asciilifeform: plus whatever it falls down on
asciilifeform: (who said it had to be the sea)
decimation: re: snowden film : he seems pretty genuine to me
decimation: but he also seems rather aggrandizing
asciilifeform did not see the film, but will say that he could probably produce a 'snowden' film with an arbitrarily high degree of 'truthiness' given a few $10M-usd
mircea_popescu: you're nuts you know.
mircea_popescu: dude, they can't even make a film looking credible on 100mn.
asciilifeform: can't or don't want/need ?
mircea_popescu: just look at the crud that gets released. and that's on "normal" topics, girl meets boy or w/e.
asciilifeform: the 64-quadrillion-bzollar question, nein ?
mircea_popescu: to get an idea of what 10mn buys you, check out tucker max' film.
asciilifeform: what did 'clerks' cost ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/ << watch this. srsly. that's 10mn.
assbot: I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell (2009) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwiLia )
mircea_popescu: and i dunno how truthy clerks looked to you ?
assbot: Clerks (1994) - Box Office Mojo ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwiP1x )
asciilifeform never sure if ever to believe these figures as they are traditionally ultra-lowballed for tax purposes
mircea_popescu: the major difference here being that your example is some kids having fun, my example is some idiot trying to force a meme.
mircea_popescu: your idea is like my example not like your example.
mircea_popescu: actually they aren't. tax deductions abound.
asciilifeform confesses to having only a very basic familiarity with the subject
mircea_popescu: well, i'm not the king of tinseltown, however, on the grounds of my cursory familiarty with the topic of making movies (ie, being a producer),
mircea_popescu: what you propose (a forced meme film that is secretly made) can not be done. period.
asciilifeform: forced meme ?
mircea_popescu: you can't get the budget high enough without making secrecy impossible.
asciilifeform: get the budget high enough without making secrecy impossible << this is right back to the 64-quadrillion-bzollar question. the dept-of-breaking-pgp gets $maxint and remains totally secret - not to say that they've succeeded or even tried, but we have no idea how much cocaine they were able to buy with the $maxint, nor the carat purity of the gold of which their toilets were made
decimation: the journalists are made to look like buffoons
mircea_popescu: this is silly.
mircea_popescu: "can god make a rock so big and hide it so well he ends up making another one ???"
asciilifeform: what'd count as a -real, indisputable- usg leak? example: info leading to perma-pwn of a whole constellation (hell, why not all of them) of usg orbiting junk
asciilifeform: as insinuated in that cryptome thing (pretty good yarn, recommended)
asciilifeform: essentially, something so utterly catastrophic to usg that it could not possibly be a hangout
asciilifeform: or even a hangout-gone-botched
asciilifeform: something from which no recovery is possible, any more than from shooting self in the head with a 'stinger'
asciilifeform: (yes, not physically possible, but for sake of argument!)
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