decimation: now, I doubt cheetos contain any actual cheese
BingoBoingo: Cheese food is a plentiful byproduct here.
decimation: I prefer a good sharp cheddar from the southwest uk
trinque: what's the opposite of eugenics?
trinque: anyone who thinks that's food is being slowly turned into a subspecies over the generations
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 150795 @ 0.00041315 = 62.301 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: The greatest crime of American cheese is that it is radically overpriced as a nutritional measure of last resort.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199700 @ 0.00042386 = 84.6448 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: paybase...walmart...bahahhaha
trinque: I'd rather you do the trilema thing than put ads
gribble: Current Blocks: 341257 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1462 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 16 hours, 7 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44653742846.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.1915
BingoBoingo: trinque: There is an adspace we tested before. Just a square in the sidebar. The right offer could either get it back or banish it for some time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102647 @ 0.00044132 = 45.3002 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2015 05:48:29; asciilifeform: 1) nixed zlib. it isn't used in bitcoin! it was demanded by demented fucktarded 'boost' > 1.53, iirc (won't even let you cut it off)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147565 @ 0.00043983 = 64.9035 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: ;;later tell GunPlay get in #bitcoin-assets (hide your ip first)
danielpbarron: i got a ssd sata drive, a 5400 rpm laptop thing, and a usb3 flashdrive to test
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11853 @ 0.00043815 = 5.1934 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80500 @ 0.00042611 = 34.3019 BTC [-]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 228.0, Best ask: 228.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 228.05, 24 hour volume: 18587.89257310, 24 hour low: 225.52, 24 hour high: 244.98, 24 hour vwap: 233.253251665
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108800 @ 0.00041505 = 45.1574 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: <trinque> what's the opposite of eugenics? << cacogenics i'd imagine.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He shooped it. Mock up of how we'd look decked out like some other sites...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132781 @ 0.00042987 = 57.0786 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If he actually dicked with the precarious balance where we don't look like shit on mobile... I'da had some stronger words
BingoBoingo: I just can't wait for someone to dig up the shoop in 2 years and be like "Qntra advertised GAW" which will of course be refuted by the lol'ing here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130200 @ 0.00043422 = 56.5354 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Hey, pete_dushenski You given the new look Qntra a try?
BingoBoingo: But yeah, we also now gently suggest fonts your browser could use...
BingoBoingo: And the menus go to full width when kicked to the bottom on the mobile stuff. Iteration...
BingoBoingo: Also there's an easter egg in the stylesheet text.
BingoBoingo: For the next time I have to link someone the stylesheet because they don't believe it exists.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35419 @ 0.00043367 = 15.3602 BTC [-]
cazalla: mircea_popescu, lol trolled hard
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.0003976 = 15.6654 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: "errors" : "Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues." << huh
cazalla: for anyone not in the know, BingoBoingo's work was born of google complaining about our mobile site
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Only listened because they were straight forward and not passive aggressive this time.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> a sent you an email or something? << They indeed did
gribble: Current Blocks: 341263 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1456 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 0 hours, 43 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44219270086.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.13882
cazalla: midnightmagic, shots fired! oh.. hang on a sec
mircea_popescu: davout: kakobrekla: dat true << yeh namechanging sucks.
pete_dushenski: that was the error msg from my toy vps node running 0.9.0.3
pete_dushenski: still loading the chain actually. 2 days later at block : 322082
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski generally bitcoind goes into safe mode if it has a bad chain etc. proilly corrupted local data.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: apologies to you for my uncivil language.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the resolution to safe mode being ... ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski well the nuclear solution is wipe chain start sync over.
mircea_popescu: jurov: yes. but if we put in expected difficulty instead of checkpoints << he actually has a very solid point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you feel like testing a 3rd approach, can you look through orphanage for % of blocks more than 10% off the difficulty ?
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 03:13:36; mircea_popescu: something simple like, "whenever a parentless block is handed over the retaining of which would cause memory pool for holding parentless blocks to be overrun, a) drop the handed block ; b) close the connection and ban that peer for half hour ; c) discard all chains of parentless blocks longer than six items ; d) connect again"
pete_dushenski: : Cannot obtain a lock on data directory /root/.bitcoin. Bitcoin Core is probably already running.
pete_dushenski: i thought this would be a good training wheels program before tackling 0.5.3 ...
pete_dushenski: but clearly the supermagickuserfriendly core is a turd so i might as well just go for the real deal
mircea_popescu: "6. You are finished. Breath easy, and live your life in peace knowing you will never have to deal with us again."
mircea_popescu: lmao this is the eve online "protection" scam irl ?! by teenagers with about the same linguistic ability ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lmao this is the eve online "protection" scam irl ?! by teenagers with about the same linguistic ability ? << wHERE?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00039747 = 2.6432 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: just the lulzof "you are finished". the unintentional open mouth insert foot style of prose.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63872 @ 0.00040904 = 26.1262 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193100 @ 0.00039098 = 75.4982 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: just noticed that serena is through to the finals
BingoBoingo: Perlboy: Yeah, that's some bullshit. My Money's on Sharapova now, just enough to wipe the previous loss if wins.
mircea_popescu: "The astonishing truth is that despite millions of dollars and hundreds of academic careers psychiatry has made no progress in almost 20 years, let alone ten, a claim no other medical specialty can make, and the truth which cannot be spoken out loud. Hence an exam."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "economy", another us pseudoscience, has made shocking progress the past 20 years :
mircea_popescu: austerity, the definitive solution to all the problems caused by inflation and loose money
mircea_popescu: is now the problem, to be definitivel solved by inflation and loose money.
mircea_popescu: so much progress could hardly fit in a single asshole.
mircea_popescu: "governance" - social "studies" - "earth science" - "economy" - "psychiatry" and "computer science"
mircea_popescu: that's pretty much the list of things the us has uncontributed to.
pete_dushenski: “The human mating system is extremely flexible,” Bernard Chapais of the University of Montreal wrote in a recent review in Evolutionary Anthropology. Only 17 percent of human cultures are strictly monogamous. The vast majority of human societies embrace a mix of marriage types, with some people practicing monogamy and others polygamy.
mircea_popescu: there's probably a population somewhere in history that actually reproduced by flies carring sperm from splooge puddles into fetid snatches.
pete_dushenski: lol but of course, the retardosearchers go on to make unwarranted conclusions:
pete_dushenski: “Once monogamy has evolved, then male care is far more likely,” Dr. Opie said.
pete_dushenski: Once a monogamous primate father starts to stick around, he has the opportunity to raise the odds that his offspring will survive. He can carry them, groom their fur and protect them from attacks.
pete_dushenski: In our own lineage, however, fathers went further. They had evolved the ability to hunt and scavenge meat, and they were supplying some of that food to their children. “They may have gone beyond what is normal for monogamous primates,” said Dr. Opie.
pete_dushenski: The extra supply of protein and calories that human children started to receive is widely considered a watershed moment in our evolution. It could explain why we have brains far bigger than other mammals.
mircea_popescu: as far as the fabled 17% strictly monogamous cultures go... i very much doubt this ever happened. no culture in history was strictly monogamous for a strict definition of strictly.
pete_dushenski: Brains are hungry organs, demanding 20 times more calories than a similar piece of muscle. Only with a steady supply of energy-rich meat, Dr. Opie suggests, were we able to evolve big brains — and all the mental capacities that come with it.
pete_dushenski: Because of monogamy, Dr. Opie said, “This could be how humans were able to push through a ceiling in terms of brain size.”
mircea_popescu: actually i've not paid any tax dollars, but i appreciate teh intent.
mircea_popescu: in any case ; meat is not particularly energetic. fat is, but fat is widely available outside of animals : one could for instance eat nothing but aguacate and become really really smart - except it doesn't work in practice.
mircea_popescu: so... this guy is discussing interesting and otherwise important matters with all the astuteness of a virgin 15 yo girl from nantucket.
mircea_popescu: actually... i guess bernard chapais actually is a 15 yo from nantucket.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, brain size per se is not well related to energetic consumption, nor to cognitive function for that matter. whales have some of the largest brains in the animalia kingdom, and somehow they're not writing stupid papers about 15yo virgin prisses.
pete_dushenski: it's not at all clear that larger brains are the function of a social behaviour, nor why they should be
pete_dushenski: it's where the brain is bigger, not just that it's bigger, that's differentiating
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24212 @ 0.00040904 = 9.9037 BTC [+]
punkman: re: kendra sunderland, she's just being topless
pete_dushenski: aok so basically random no one is being charged for trespassing on campus property
pete_dushenski: Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni, 79, a physicist and naturalized citizen from Argentina, pleaded guilty in 2013 to espionage-related offenses stemming from a sting in which he told an undercover agent that he could help the Caracas government obtain an atomic bomb, according to the F.B.I. and court records.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113608 @ 0.0003868 = 43.9436 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this scam pops up now and again, the sort of salesmen that poach on old ladies selling them 55's years worth of toilet paper supplies and 19 organs join the fbi and proceed to "catch" old / mentally disabled / minorities and other vulnerable people at you know, trying to buy badbombium
mircea_popescu: then completely insane commanding officers fail to sack them and completely insane judges fail to throw the thing out and hold the idiots in contempt for a few years at a stretch.
pete_dushenski: i mean it's one thing to keep an old lady company for a few years, take her to dinner, to the doctor's, end up in her will
mircea_popescu: no time to cook dinner anymore, mcd's gotta do. "i ordered takeout. what ?! it's still effort!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94300 @ 0.00039325 = 37.0835 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: reddit also says hashie is tradefortress
Vexual: so where drowned is the same as drowning, we might ise 1/30 s and the smallest apeture, an da neutral filer to suit
Vexual: make it look all dreamy and nice
Vexual: im entirely adverese to ruinin git with music
pete_dushenski: but that doesn't mean author x is going to stake his claim on a stereotype
mircea_popescu: well first off, you introduced a stereotype by discussing jews, so we're going to do stereotypes.
mircea_popescu: how the hell are you going to discuss "jews" unstereotypically.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: that's a point i suppose. but "stupid people" are subject to the same
pete_dushenski: even if the specific vices thereof are a matter of perspective
mircea_popescu: see, there's a stereotype of a dumb blonde, there isn't a stereotype of a hot blonde.
pete_dushenski: the stereotype of the hot blonde is that she's out of your league
mircea_popescu: even if they're both meaningful constructions, they're not both stereotypical constructions. a good test being, of course, translation.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot more to it than that. big boobs, tall, a certain mouth shape...
mircea_popescu: she dun has to be surrounded by friends, heck, she's often alone, protected by the magic of her idiot ball
mircea_popescu: anyway, stereotypy's mostly a literary device. the poor man's term of art, if you will.
pete_dushenski: so how does titling an article "the problems of stupid people" circumvent this term of art ?
pete_dushenski: i guess i just think that people would actually read such a thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the problems of the stereotypical jew : same problem as shared by all middle eastern cultures, from bulgaria to iran : that the woman is overimportant in the culture. unlike the other eastern cultures however, the jew has very little means to address this problem. can't quite start stoning innocent girls in the road.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00039596 = 11.3245 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: myeah. "frantic exertion as a decoy for impotence", as teh tlp guy likes to say
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> so how does titling an article "the problems of stupid people" circumvent this term of art ? << which term ? and nah, it doesn't.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to save teh noobs : in no case am i proposing that the bizarro atrocities of the muslims, stereotypically grouped above under " stoning innocent girls in the road" are an effectual approach to the problem [of overrepresentation of woman in their own mental space]. it clearly doesn't work, but then again it's clearly what they're trying. and obviously it's not the god damned women's fault that dudes are all hang
pete_dushenski: the efforts of moslems maybe "clearly doesn't work" at the superficial intention, but it seems to be successful a recruiting new folks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127364 @ 0.00039244 = 49.9827 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: eh, recruiting boys to do something sutpid is like finding flies to go on shit.
pete_dushenski: well them islam has the stankiest stink because it's attracting hordes of 'em
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nevertheless, examine teh devices side by side. muslim boy is like "you must wear the tablecloth on your head lest there's weird stuff that scares me going on in my head". jew boy is like "mom you must not be disappointed in me or else there's weird stuff that scares me going on in my head"
mircea_popescu: it's really not THAT different. which is why they fucking hate each other.
mircea_popescu: more like "the right way to treat neurosis with home remedies"
pete_dushenski: "this is why you should be scared" "no it's not! it's this!"
mircea_popescu: but honestly, either beats the english "if you ever enjoy anything you will die" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: it's shocking how the stupidest of european peoples managed to steal and run off with the stupidest corner of jewish religion
mircea_popescu: it's almost like explorer found ancient tomb, ran off with ancient pee bowl. as a hat.
mircea_popescu: as george costanza once said, "if there's a pinhead in the crowd, i gotta be on top of it"
pete_dushenski: and as home simpson once said, "this is the snack holder where i can put my beverage, or, if you will, cupcake
pete_dushenski: “Human society is so complex that there are different ways of enhancing your reproductive success – some involve being nice and some being nasty,”
pete_dushenski: In some situations, ruthlessness may be necessary. “To be prime minister, you can’t be namby pamby – you need to cut corners and hurt people, and even be nasty to achieve your moral causes,” he says. After all, the dark personalities often have the impulse and the confidence to get things done –even Mother Theresa apparently had a steely side, he says. “You’re not going to help
pete_dushenski: the community will spin in circles being nice to one another
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jurov: midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: i don't see the bash as place to put mollification statements, they need to be funnier. it's in the log already, just have the url handy at all times
jurov: unless kakobrekla decides otherwise
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1662 @ 0.00094999 = 1.5789 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9649 @ 0.00037154 = 3.585 BTC [-]
punkman: same author as cordialminuet, Jason Rohrer.
punkman: he's made some interesting games
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115238 @ 0.00036886 = 42.5067 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Changing the direction of the game (and v9 released) (Page 1) / News / The Castle Doctrine Forums ... (
http://bit.ly/1zqKYVu )
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mats: wow, rcons is awesome compared to ncurses, wtf
mats: portable, small code base, no special compilations to support mice and certain colors, supports html output, supports truecolor on all platforms
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00038385 = 12.2448 BTC [+]
coderwill: anyone looking for a frontend dev / ux designer in here? i'm trying to find identify and hopefully work with more closely aligned people in 2015 - without moving. :)
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mats: get in the wot, yo.
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assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0003293 / 0.00039592 / 0.00044337 (6182344 shares, 2,447.75 BTC), 7D: 0.00030001 / 0.00042314 / 0.00053193 (14651525 shares, 6,199.78 BTC), 30D: 0.00030001 / 0.00049707 / 0.00068113 (43044769 shares, 21,396.27 BTC)
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ben_vulpes: "I feel bad suggesting that we limit the block size at all," << there. another knife.
ben_vulpes: gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.7199 BTC. Current weight: 43,121.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79690 @ 0.00038133 = 30.3882 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: for some reason the "upload a public key" feature for aws has gone missing.
mircea_popescu: jurov: unless kakobrekla decides otherwise << i thought it was pretty funny.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: gavin andresen is unchangeably biased against solutions that preserve scarcity semantics. <<< that's not even it. a princeton graduate that lives in amherst mass and has suckled the usg privilege tit all his life to the exclusion of anything else is going to make it so we can't verify bitcoin transactions or integrity anymore in order to "save africa" by allowing them microtransactions they don't either nee
mircea_popescu: a more laughably clear cut of usg-ism i've never seen, and it's utter defeat and public ridicule will do a lot not only to preserve bitcoin as "the noose that hangs the usg", but moreover as a focal point for all people who would rather live an actual life.
mircea_popescu: this isn't about one idiot guy going around at parties dressed up as satoshi. this is about how americanism failed and fails, at home and abroad.
mircea_popescu: time for something new and something better than "let's break everything so some black guy i've imagined feels better about his life".
assbot: The real reason Ryan Charles was fired from reddit: he spent the entire duration of his employment working on a port of bitcoin core to Javascript. : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1zIyjAo )
mats: The reddit wallet, should it have existed, had absolutely enormous potential. The goal was to make it really easy for redditors to have and transact in digital assets, particularly bitcoin, dogecoin, and reddit notes, as well as any other assets using whatever protocol we ultimately used for reddit notes (probably colored coins or sidechains).
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jurov: i guess b-a bash needs american( or america-culture-aware) moderator then. i found midnightmagic's utterance only slightly bizarre
mthreat: greetings from Livingston Island, Antarctica
mthreat: well, from the boat at the moment
mthreat: slow internet, i may be able to get 1 pic up
mthreat: but it probably is the same as all the other pics out there :)
mircea_popescu: mats redditors transacting, enormous potential, top kek.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.4 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before March"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1107/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.38179557 BTC. Current weight: 52,784.
mircea_popescu: nah, this is actually a known 2011 issue. that was obv never fixed
BingoBoingo: jurov> i guess b-a bash needs american( or america-culture-aware) moderator then. i found midnightmagic's utterance only slightly bizarre << Same here
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trinque: BingoBoingo: later yelled at me that he wasn't american, and also leave britney alone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, the march fork yielded a lot of that too
assbot: On pretending “Googling” is still a thing that works any more than “USG” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1EwLHJ0 )
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punkman: he's talking about the open source stuff
fluffypony: but all their FOSS work is pretty much to further their own endeavours
fluffypony: eg. I don't think they created Go or AngularJS because they felt benevolent
mircea_popescu: just because google has been measurably more successful at embrace, extend and extinguish foss than say microsoft
cazalla: clearly you've never heard the saying "always bet on black"
cazalla: mircea_popescu, twice i believe
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm still all time +ev against serena, but it always stings losing in the now. Nice Shitbrain worm >> Ascaris cerebrofoetida
cazalla: BingoBoingo, who are you figuring to win tonight? djokovic or murray? i want to bet opposite to you :P
mats: mr magic is worried about being gassed by agents of the enemy
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I don't really know men's tennis. Kind of a sport for the girlies.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: More the sort of necessary evil that would need invented.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo you know it's tenis not penis. << Ah, phonics gets me again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36750 @ 0.00037407 = 13.7471 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: conformal, btcd, compiling << btcd won't even compile on a vps with ~600 mb of ram. OOM kill.
fluffypony: don't you just run Go apps, without precompiling them?
ben_vulpes: i'm no expert with their ecosystem, so i may be doing it wrong.
fluffypony: I have an API for a service I run that is written in Go, and that's 'go server.go', no compiling
hanbot: that's why you were so aghast over gossipd.go?
hanbot: i guess that's a highlight for artifexd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77300 @ 0.00036757 = 28.4132 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: doesn't really cover the apparently epic dependency graph of btcd
ben_vulpes is trying to decide how much he cares about running btcd
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1615 @ 0.00095998 = 1.5504 BTC [+]
punkman: "open source as long as the chinese don't copy it"
danielpbarron: might be my crappy laptop; i may just make a fresh gentoo install just for this
danielpbarron: that's not the problem; the script doesn't change directory properly after the permission error
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's trying to do a chain reorg and failing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform go can be statically compiled can it not ?
mircea_popescu: definitely lost: 22,000 bytes in 250 blocks indirectly lost: 360,903 bytes in 10 blocks possibly lost: 90,514,354 bytes in 256 blocks 115,924,858 bytes in 450,368 blocks << this is the fucking sorriest report, like it's cs 101 over here.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126850 @ 0.00036757 = 46.6263 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Now i see. Gavin announced chaos and drama to the press because he himself intends to create it. He gets a 30% veto and still wants to proceed. It's gonna rip. I just switched to Litecoin."
mircea_popescu: heh. the first part is true, obviously. not so sure about the 2nd. bitcoin is after all based on drama and lulz.
mircea_popescu: qntra and derivatives totally dominates teh discussion.
mircea_popescu: not really linked it, which is weird mfa sorta behaviour.
thestringpuller: one of them iirc was "Gavin Proposes Pooping Out New Fork"
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Tell then their link doesn't work. A url encased in parenthesis can not be clicked.
thestringpuller: It's like trying to replace the wheels on an old steam engine that's still running.
thestringpuller: This is gonna be some ride for the folks back in 3rd class.
BingoBoingo appreciates that my doubt an edgerouter with 512 MB of RAM could make a Bitcoin node and a week later a serious effort to make a 128 MB pogoplug is seriously iterating in a productive direction.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00036757 = 16.3569 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2036 @ 0.00096835 = 1.9716 BTC [+] {6}
ben_vulpes: i sent one of the guys out to get me a cheese yesterday. "cheddar, sharp, really solid, aged."
cjc: Thanks for the voice -- managed to discover this channel while reading an article critical of increasing the block size.
cjc: Figured the discussions herein may be worth my idling.
ben_vulpes: cjc: there's also log.bitcoin-assets.com
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i do so love nasty stinky cheeses << Hypothesis, functionally smarter people prefer cheese with more smell because it indicates the presence of more, varied catecholamine precursors the brain craves.
ben_vulpes: cjc: wouldn't stand for "chicago journal of commerce" by any chance?
mircea_popescu: cjc read the logs, linked in topic. there's a search function too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54350 @ 0.000367 = 19.9465 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain't Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1zINIRn )
cjc: mircea_popescu, thank you :)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that is actually the theory i've "come up with" myself.
cjc: ben_vulpes, no cjc are merely my initials.
cjc: /msg NickServ INFO cjc
cjc: I've also nabbed the first/last initials as a nick and grouped them too.
mircea_popescu: cjc since you've apparently been around for a while : any merit to teh rumous of freenode slowly going to shit ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo that is actually the theory i've "come up with" myself. << I've accepted that the American conditioning to remove all the flavors if it isn't explicitly done to cultivate stupid, continues with stupid accepted as a positive side effect.
cjc: mircea_popescu, The node I connect to in Chicago has been down inconveniently quite a bit in 2014, morgan.freenode.net. My observation of #freenode staffer availability in the past two months has been it is hit or miss for new users requesting cloaks and such.
cjc: Yes, when I started coming here before I registered my nick in 2003 --
cjc: There were developers here and like minded people seeking collaboration.
cjc: We now find many more casual users with a "multi-chat" Facebook type desire to use the network.
cjc: Its not really held up to the focus as established, perhaps due to insufficient moderation or self enforcement.
cjc: What are your thoughts?
mircea_popescu: seems to me kinda drifting without rudder, hoping it won't meet any serious icebergs.
cjc: Frankly, Freenode would be akin to one of the last standing freenets of the early 90s. If there was ever a problem with regard to insufficient support for the network monetarily --
cjc: I do not believe there would be a problem soliciting donations from users who find this the place to host their projects and to meet and talk with others about the same.
cjc: Channel population hasn't changed too dramatically in the last decade in #gentoo where I spend most of my time.
mircea_popescu: there was recently a problem with a nsa infiltration that's still being "investigated".
mircea_popescu: there's more to money than just getting five thousand people to send you ten bux.
cjc: lol, yes its an obsessive compulsive compatible OS
cjc: mircea_popescu, I did not apparently catch the news with regard to NSA infiltration.
cjc: I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the issues I experienced with morgan.freenode.net this year.
danielpbarron: lol thestringpuller, that last frame was me last night :/
cjc: I do recall this article now that you mention it.
mircea_popescu: (doctors don't sleep either. allegedly for different reasons._)
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 217 @ 0.00489784 = 1.0628 BTC [+] {2}
cjc: How does BingoBoingo work, am I grand a 30 minute one time voice in the channel and then able to simply lurk?
mircea_popescu: cjc if you're in assbot's wot, you get to voice yourself. if not, people who are can voice you in half hour chunks.
cjc: Thanks mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo :)
cjc: Cool, thanks -- Mostly, I'm around overnight hours in CST -- as I work 3rd shift.
cjc: I was on one of these Trilema pages earlier today, but didn't understand what the Lord of Bitcoins page was all about when I landed there linked from an article.
mircea_popescu: btw ben_vulpes im thinking, at first conference dinner... we have roast party ?
cjc: During the articles critical of G.A., the above page was linked to... along the way, I discovered this channel.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you'd better come up wioth good shit, i already have some fucking killers for you mr.
mod6: mircea_popescu: sure!
mircea_popescu: go out all over portland and date until you find a funny woman.
ben_vulpes: so is it a round robin roastage? everyone roasts in turn?
mod6: wait... does this mean a roast of meat? or of personalities?
ben_vulpes: i think as host you should be c3's target
mod6: oh jeeze. lol. i'd be terrible at that.
ben_vulpes: man talk about insider baseball this shit's not even going to be proofable against other humans
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132911 @ 0.00037085 = 49.29 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: hey, i didn't tell you to spend all day typing ruby or w/e you do. boost.
ben_vulpes: not only do you intend to pauperize me but also demoralize
mircea_popescu: not in the sense of, women. in the sense of, mindboggling challenges.
mod6: here i was all excited. like "YES PIG ROAST TIME!!!"
mircea_popescu: mod6 it is not legal in argentina to convene more than six people outside of the presence of roasted meat.
mircea_popescu: they come read you the meat riot and sedition acts and then start shooting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.0003673 = 23.7276 BTC [-]
mod6: haha. imagine a good law.
BingoBoingo: I thought beef and not pigs is what the Argentines roasted
mircea_popescu: they'd roast the vanishingly small african community if those dudes didn't run so fasty.
gribble: Current Blocks: 341376 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 1343 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 43 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 45287162310.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.72621
BingoBoingo: Huh, GAW stopped mining and difficulty still looks to be on the upswing.
mircea_popescu: impossibru. who outside of cazalla and anyone thinking could have predicted this!
mats: you mean they weren't mining to begin with? the horror.
davout: ben_vulpes: "oh man argentine blood sausage" <<< yes. please.
davout: danielpbarron cazalla Apocalyptic the railzand guy not only has locked the fork off topic but seems to have started a #b-a log digest bitcointalk thread
davout: mircea_popescu: that does count as food
mircea_popescu: mayb someone should tell him fluffypony was actually looking to payu someone to do this ?
davout: also the qntra mobile is pretty nice!
davout: i'm kinda disappoint that it had to be google telling you
davout: imma go hang out in that 20m new thread, see what lulz may be extracted
mats: this log summary is terrible
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 04:57:44; asciilifeform: incidentally (non-u.s. folks) if you visit usa and are offered 'american cheese' - run, not walk, to exit
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 04:59:10; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a chunk of pine bark
BingoBoingo: davout: Well google was more the catalyst for doing it now. That and having picked up a Smatr PNohe to actually test on.
davout: qntra is now officially pooping-friendly
davout: cazalla's paybase adds should actually be displayed if 'reddit' is found in the referrer string
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 19:13:51; fluffypony: but all their FOSS work is pretty much to further their own endeavours
BingoBoingo: <davout> cazalla's paybase adds should actually be displayed if 'reddit' is found in the referrer string But links to Plsdont://paybase.on.nimp.org
davout: BingoBoingo: what is that? google tells me achtung
punkman: I only remember it's something bad
punkman: probably won't do anything without javascript though
BingoBoingo: davout: Shock site. Basically subject.thatdomain opens a cascade of eye rape and screaming. The popups induce more panic than the classic "pain series"
mircea_popescu: "A sampling of 30% of average forum users isn't the same as 30% of the community, and certainly not the ecosystem. In reality individual users and organizations carry different weight. At the end of the day people who believe in Bitcoin (and invest their money into it) will do what they can to protect that value. The fork which has the most economic value will be the one most likely to survive with confidence of those
mircea_popescu: lmao @forum. it has NOW discovered the importance of stuff.
mircea_popescu: funny how this wasn't a consideration before, because "unanimous."
mircea_popescu: "My understanding is a lot of heavily weighted entities in the ecosystem already support Gavin's proposed course."
mats: i suppose i'm being harsh. it could use better formatting and some context (maybe links to where author commentary refers?).
mats: who is that anyway?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51700 @ 0.00036859 = 19.0561 BTC [+]
cazalla: anyone know if these cheap shit chinese dlsr lenses are good enough?
punkman: cazalla, what are you looking for?
cazalla: umm, not even hobbyist photos really.. punkman i want to get a macro lense for taking photos of the bugs and insects that inhabit my garden.. the mantis comment above just reminded me
mats: i've thought about doing summaries for a while, but i've been preempted
punkman: get an adapter for old SLR lenses, and some macro tubes
punkman: what brand is your camera?
cazalla: i've got a nikon, cheaper d3100
punkman: macro tubes and lens with manual aperture/focus will work well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94416 @ 0.00036859 = 34.8008 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: cazalla anything shoul work ok really, get whatever's accessible.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123800 @ 0.00036859 = 45.6314 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178000 @ 0.00036481 = 64.9362 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: punkman, yeah but i want them from my garden, not on window
cazalla: first time i've grown watermelon and it seems to have attracted some bee that is really yellow, looks great
cazalla: quite a few mantis around after carrot fly too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 190247 @ 0.0003583 = 68.1655 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: cazalla, hard to do macro from a distance
cazalla: punkman, i can sit and wait until he comes my way :)
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I though Australia was the sort of place where insects hunt you
punkman: as to the chinese lenses, they mostly work, many don't fill the entire frame though
cazalla: BingoBoingo, well yeah, missus does a spider check in the kid's play pen each morning.. found 2 spiders to date
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107700 @ 0.00035433 = 38.1613 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: cazalla, you'll be able to do more stuff with manual lens
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If it can't the exercise would reveal a lower bound to target.
mats: >Hernandez's DNA also was found on a .45-caliber shell casing found in a car he had rented.
mats: Sounds suspiciously like he was wearing the piece 'like a gangsta' and sweat into the damn weapon.
mats: er, bad construction, but you get the idea...
mats: nope, nm, i misread.
danielpbarron: my ubuntu install is too messy and i'm not sure it even supports the cross compiler
jurov: afaik only by crawling
jurov: the urls are reasonably static
mircea_popescu: in the great internet battle pitting idiots against trolls... the trolls are winning.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65819 @ 0.00036859 = 24.2602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103100 @ 0.00036075 = 37.1933 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "all internet security is a slow, half-assed, dubious reimplementation of gossipd. pity gossipd itself doesn't exist yet."
assbot: Third pass addressing the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal:
http://t.co/oQfE8dIu1s
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and if cca 280k this choickes to, what do we do ? what's heron sense say ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112200 @ 0.00036075 = 40.4762 BTC [-]
cazalla: mircea_popescu, what i don't get is that on reddit, you see the idea of a paywall and microtransactions always discussed as bitcoin's killer app and yet when they come across it being implemented, they cry scam
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42615 @ 0.00036859 = 15.7075 BTC [+]
cazalla: i guess so but first 2 weeks of jan were slow just as the last 2 weeks of december were
cazalla: but i think we've also refined the type of content we publish over the past few months
gribble: Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command.
teward: so i learned something - assbot doesn't realize I have +2 level2 rep with it o.o
teward glares at kakobrekla then says "fix the bot"
teward: BingoBoingo: thank you kindly
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'teward', with hostmask 'teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward', is identified as user 'TheLordOfTime', with GPG key id 406253859C1129B6, key fingerprint FE87E56959370E1989828103406253859C1129B6, and bitcoin address 1LEKacNEUzD4gStZScnG2vgkQ9HmpMz1Kp
teward: ;;gettrust assbot [ident teward]
teward: assuming the bot actually checks ident of a user
teward: if it doesn't it needs retooled
teward: BingoBoingo: teward being my altnick
teward: this *used* to work actually
assbot: LordofTime is not registered in WoT.
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'teward', with hostmask 'teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward', is identified as user 'TheLordOfTime', with GPG key id 406253859C1129B6, key fingerprint FE87E56959370E1989828103406253859C1129B6, and bitcoin address 1LEKacNEUzD4gStZScnG2vgkQ9HmpMz1Kp
BingoBoingo: teward: You should be able to !up under that name
teward: BingoBoingo: and it says I can't
teward: [15/01/31 19:56:11] <teward> !up
teward: [15/01/31 19:56:12] <assbot> You need a better WoT rating for self-up. (level 2 with assbot >0)
teward: as i said, the bot is broke
BingoBoingo: teward: Have you tried wearing that nick while asking assbot !up
teward: BingoBoingo: can't - 150+ channels would be screaming
Guest18566: BingoBoingo: NOW it wants me to auth with it...
Guest18566: BingoBoingo: [15/01/31 20:04:47] -NickServ- Information on thelordoftime (account thetimelord): <-- musta expired
teward: BingoBoingo: sounds like I need to rape freenode with a stick again
teward: BingoBoingo: if that's a new thing, then the webpage needs updated
teward: and i'll yell at kakobrekla later
teward: can't auth as a nick that was stolen from me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00037089 = 10.2551 BTC [+]
teward: kakobrekla: unfortunately TheLordOfTime, my gribble auth nick, is stolen - must have expired and been taken
teward: since !up now binds to your own auth mech
teward: rather than gribble auth
teward: and since the nick i auth up as in otc was taken, there's a problem
teward: got the pgp key for 'teward' but if your bot fails to recognize master/alt nicks... well...
teward: yer gonna have people like me bringing hell
teward: kakobrekla: probably nickserv expiry - haven't used that nick in eons
teward: but 9 weeks ago was when it was 'registered' by someone
teward: tryin to hunt down an irc staffer to figure out what happened
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 21:27:59; kakobrekla: i know changing names is not a good practice, but perhaps for the sake of sync we could allow to update your name once (given properly signed request from adequate gpg key)
punkman: why not optional wotnick parameter when using commands?
kakobrekla: because split personalities belong to #bitcoin-insane-asylum
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59841 @ 0.00037247 = 22.289 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 6688 @ 0.00097658 = 6.5314 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2030 @ 0.00098946 = 2.0086 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: flibbr is not registered in WoT.
teward: mircea_popescu: bitcoin op, perhaps, not freenode staffer :)
teward: if i were freenode staffer cholby would be getting klined on sight every single time
teward: and then i'd have my oline revoked for overusing /kline xD
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.teward.1:fc509d9d4b7e9bcc7fa8f0b03ff66507e9f975b04b153a5a7b45e4bdf99a6b31
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for teward with note: guy whose name starts with t.
teward: well known freenode troll/spammer/scammer/bitch
mircea_popescu: teward now you can assbot voice, send !up in pm then !v its string
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2550 @ 0.000999 = 2.5475 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: cazalla: but i think we've also refined the type of content we publish << i guess that's gonna keep getting redefined, iut's what living things do.
teward: mircea_popescu: this needs documented
teward: mircea_popescu: the auth process for unfamiliar people :)
teward was unaware of the switch to internal auth mechanisms
teward: and 'scammer' in that he tries to impersonate staff when he's really bored
teward: ends up 'scamming' users into things
assbot: The real reason Ryan Charles was fired from reddit: he spent the entire duration of his employment working on a port of bitcoin core to Javascript. : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1vn66NU )
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Yeah, just dunno how that qualifies him to say Bitcoin companie should just stop competing with each other and then dissolve when they solve their problems
danielpbarron: "what's your business plan?" "to go out of business in a few years"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that just makes him a shoulder
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00037689 = 3.882 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i hope they had a new york clause in their contract, and griesa gets to judge it
mats: i'm looking forward to the outcome of this
mats: will any others develop the courage to leave the EU? huhu
mats: asciilifeform: any recommendations for a logic analyzer? preferably something sub $1k
mats: i've heard good things about saleae logic, have you used it?
mats: software is described as high quality.
mats: closed-source seems normal from the researching ive done
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00037689 = 20.0505 BTC [+]
onewhosits: what are some BTC predictions for this coming week?
mats: try #bitcoin-pricetalk
onewhosits: no sir, google brings up "world of tanks" aha
BingoBoingo: onewhosits: Another important step is getting a cloak and moving off of webchat cloak
BingoBoingo: Hides your IP, because it is hard to tell when DoS bot will return
onewhosits: oh i see. is it risky to use these channels? i run tailsos when i need to
mats: i'd avoid doing anything sensitive over Tor, though
mats: some curmudgeon operating an exit node could diddle your traffic.
BingoBoingo: onewhosits: More just some vandal has a bot that lurks and DoS's connections as it seens them join. Cloak should be enough to defeat that. To connect with Tor you'd need a cloak anyway.
danielpbarron: onewhosits, out of curiousity: did you verify the gpg signature on the tails installer?
pete_dushenski: whoa what's with the chernobyl theme over at thebitcoin.foundation ?
onewhosits: Good info friends. I'm currently using my home ip so im good. interesting though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53562 @ 0.00038117 = 20.4162 BTC [+]
onewhosits: danielpbarron. No, actually i didn't. Should've. Is there a common problem with modified tailos installs?
danielpbarron: onewhosits, idk -- it doesn't matter anyway; the tails guys aren't in the WoT
danielpbarron: i was just wondering if a random tails user was aware of that sort of thing, or if they just downloaded it because freetalklive mentioned it
decimation: the LXR 'concordance' is pretty neat, it would be cool if it were possible to create that without webserver turd
onewhosits: danielpbarrn ahh. nah ive been using the distro for some time
decimation: asciilifeform: but it is possible to get decent (if not 'mazerati'-grade) instrumentation without swallowing winblows << except agilent et.al. comes with windows
decimation: hp was lowered in pederastry after years of fucktarded management - mainly after hewlitt and packard died
decimation: yes, that era forms the mud-layer upon which modern silly-con valley is built
decimation: asciilifeform: that's probably a good explanation for why high-end engineering software comes only on winblows
decimation: that and, the only proprietary hardware unix vendor left is... apple
BingoBoingo: decimation: Similar to how when the Western Roman empire fell, concrete was forgotten for quite some time, because no volcanic ash in coldistan
decimation: decimation: sun have been lowered into oracle or that turd 'joylent' that was discussed awhile ago
decimation: BingoBoingo: aye, it is my understanding that even to this day the exact recipe for 'roman concrete' is still not completely known
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> decimation: actually, sun corp. endured for a while << Sun alway though lacked the introspection necessary to realize things like... A bench might be a better place to assemble machines than the floor.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00037689 = 4.6923 BTC [-]
decimation: they built aqua-ducts that lasted 2000 years - I'm not betting that 'portland cement' will last as long
decimation: yes, warez vendors targeted solaris as a platform, like cadence, adobe, etc
decimation: actually this is a perfect example of how 'drowning in idiots' can ruin an industry
decimation: suddenly everyone who could use windows was a 'computer expert', so people who used computers to compute became 'dinosaurs' or 'weird'
decimation: aye. once 'management' decided that windows was the answer, the nerds at the bottom had no chance
decimation: asciilifeform: do you have a source for little wires with single pin 'female header' connectors?
assbot: Amazon.com: 40pcs Female to Female 2.54mm 0.1 in Jumper Wires F/F (40pcs): Computers & Accessories ... (
http://bit.ly/1ymtBlN )
decimation: ah. thanks. the problem mainly is figuring out how to describe what you want
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00037349 = 16.6203 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22184 @ 0.00035681 = 7.9155 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46350 @ 0.00035681 = 16.5381 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cazalla's text. But... certain people who birthed it still promote it as an alternative that still solves a problem.
danielpbarron: i've seen a few "just sold all my BTC for Litecoin because MP is mean" posts
mats: hm, bitbet has graduated to being a sextuple reverse fractional reserve if my computation is correct
cazalla: asciilifeform, coblee admits his silver analogy doesn't make sense but continues with it anyway.. doesn't sound genuine to me at all
cazalla: and nobody has moved the goal posts as much as those idiots.. gpu resistant, asic resistant, it's faster etc etc
mats: its still fluctuating around 1%, so perhaps it may live on yet
cazalla: so no, i don't buy that litecoin was anything more than the creation of your stereotypical chink who knocks shit off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75800 @ 0.00035681 = 27.0462 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the cynical answer could also be that he's a bad actor who tried to detract energies away from bitcoin at a pivotal moment
cazalla: he is malicious because he contains to appear at conferences to tell people how a coin is all about the marketing regardless of whether what you say is factual or not. he's just the first iteration of garza
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: at least litecoin didn't have a phoundation crudding it up to its gills over a period of years
cazalla: asciilifeform, i'm pretty sure every altcoin always launches with the idea of being different to every other altcoin
cazalla: pete_dushenski, it has had one for the last year along with a *talk.org forum.. it's pretty much the blue print for altcoins at this point, launch your altcointalk.org, have a foundation and premine under the guise the foundation will use the coins in some fund to spread adoption
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: best electric tranny is ICE powered.
cazalla: of course, which is why i got into it to begin with but in hindsight, just sour grapes at missing cheaper bitcoin
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the 'cynical' answer would be that he didn't give a flying fuck about asic resistance in the general sense, but planned to build own asic << There was drama about a collaborator of his GPU mining this GPU unminable coin from the start
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Collaborator was also one of the first, notorious BTC GPU miners
pete_dushenski: cazalla: a, a newer thing then, another "but it worked for the us" scenario
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: even tesla's have to get leccy from somewhere
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: and what was that miata bit? is this your dream car or.. ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00035373 = 7.5521 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: no proof of course but i wouldn't put it past a guy to do that.. a guy that is willing to get up in front of a room and admit what he says isn't true but that it's OK because "marketing"
pete_dushenski: and now lee is presumably sipping mai tais somewhere because i swear he hasn't made a peep in 12 months
cazalla: still a coinbase despite telling the faithful that coinbase will add litecoin and that he'll leave if they don't
mats: based on the description, anyway.
mats: mircea_popescu: would you consider records and other business documents (e.g. tax filings) within the scope of the courts-circus parameters?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00035275 = 6.6141 BTC [-]
mats: er, not tax filings, but financial documents -- also, what about electronic storage devices?