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Vexual: fuxking work drinks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9032 @ 0.00075238 = 6.7955 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform gets up for one1111!11 day and misses tehgoodstuff as usual
xmj: lol..
xmj: ben_vulpes: you're drunk right?
Vexual: don't ask that, hes the boss
asciilifeform: what's a work-drink ?
asciilifeform: sorta like what 'mentats' drink in 'dune' ?
Vexual: lol, perhaps
xmj: asciilifeform: work drink is when your boss forces you to have wine or beer during lunch, then watches how you work in the afternoon and fires your lazy ass in the evening.
xmj: that's "work drink"
Vexual: perhaps like a good cup of tea where nothing goes wrong asccii
asciilifeform: forces? with funnel ?
Vexual: oversight
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform irc is a harsh but demanding mistress
Vexual: bitch gave kakobrekla a sense of humour
Vexual: it might stil put "whos your daddy" in my vanacular
Vexual: i missed bashing some excellent kako jokes
kdomanski: !seen genjix
kdomanski: ;;seen genjix
gribble: genjix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 50 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <genjix> nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy.
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0S9Z76G.txt )
Vexual: niggah faints
kdomanski: ;;seen nefario
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 51 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 3 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
Vexual: i hope he insured his shit
BingoBoingo: Poor Catcher
Vexual: poor catchers undead kids
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: what happens there? why isn't the guy running for 1st? is that one of those auto-outs..?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4544 @ 0.00074945 = 3.4055 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: hes not runnign anyplaces
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: Looks like a foul. Wasn't quite caught, so doubt it is a foul tip.
Vexual: might notta hurt
Vexual: well he might pick it up and throw it
Vexual: like satoshi did
Vexual: check the cigarello
BingoBoingo: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 15 minutes and 48 seconds
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 322136 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 423 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35062434960.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.5419
Vexual: kerosene
Vexual: fifteen minutes an fourty three seconds, struth mate
Vexual: whos ever seen ball lightning?
Vexual: no?
BingoBoingo: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 18 seconds
xmj: Vexual: are you bored?
Vexual: fuck yes and fuck no
Vexual: ill be playing spiderbait next if it suits
Vexual: et ou?
xmj: well i'll just revert to plonking you
Vexual: plaonk?
Vexual: providing me wine/?
Vexual: do wee need a commerorative poster?
Vexual: did you say plonk?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10821 @ 0.00074871 = 8.1018 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8374 @ 0.00075006 = 6.281 BTC [+]
assbot: Jennifer Lopez - Booty ft. Iggy Azalea - YouTube
jurov: even my lesbian friends considered this utterly disgusting
assbot: Jennifer Lopez -- 'Booty' Video Triggers Lube Deal | TMZ.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00067125 = 0.6713 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9208 @ 0.00067104 = 6.1789 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4128 @ 0.00075006 = 3.0962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3398 @ 0.00075006 = 2.5487 BTC [+]
punkman: re: systemd, there's a fork now http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/
assbot: uselessd :: information system
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00075071 = 9.8718 BTC [+] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.3 BTC for No on "20% difficulty increase before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1036/ Odds: 60(Y):40(N) by coin, 58(Y):42(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.78041982 BTC. Current weight: 75,054.
assbot: Kialara - Imgur
punkman: !up CheckDavid
CheckDavid: Thanks
CheckDavid: I wanted to ask what you guys think about B2B email communications in the bitcoin industry
jurov: we call it "spam"
mats_cd03: whats there to think about
CheckDavid: Is plain text good, or are fancy HTML templates worth it?
jurov gasps
CheckDavid: Sincerely don't know.
chetty does not accept html format email, ever
punkman: always plain text
CheckDavid: Personally I don't care for fancy emails
CheckDavid: Buy my manager is the fancy time
CheckDavid: Wastes over an hour to make HTML emails
chetty: well be aware that most people will not accept html formats, any one with sense that is
jurov: CheckDavid send him to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a time.
jurov: You will never get in touch with someone who matters by spamming.
CheckDavid: jurov: that's masterful social engineering. But is there.more than just getting rid of him? Lol
jurov: http://www.coconut-audio.com/megasata.html add moar depth to your hdd noises !!1
assbot: Unreal cables
CheckDavid: Oh jurov. I am not spamming. At least not now.
jurov: you can at least say here what you're gonna mailing about
CheckDavid: I am managing some communicational efforts for a Recruiting agency
chetty: jurov nailed it, spam
jurov: you know, I got lots of spam about "IBM jobs offers". your offer will end up in the trash promptly together with them
CheckDavid: jurov: I can. I am gauging for the demand bitcoin businesses have for certain professionals. Depending on each business needs, I will send an personalized email accounting for their vacancies
jurov: dude there are few people seeking gigs. no need to be obtuse
CheckDavid: Not really because we already have a database of job seekers.
CheckDavid: jurov: sorry. What do you mean?
jurov: do you need sysadmin or coder or? which company? how much $$$?
CheckDavid: jurov: you want to know about our job.offers?
jurov: perhaps something will pique my interest. and there are more such people in this chan
jurov: but if you insist emailing reddit herd or such, that's up to you
CheckDavid: Oh. I definitely will communicate interesting job offers to anyone interested. But now I am on a phase of building a base of employers in the bitcoin community
jurov: in other words, you're cooking stone soup
jurov: (some call it axe soup)
CheckDavid: Many people like stone soup
kakobrekla: good for losing weight
CheckDavid: jurov: the capital of stone soup is in my country lol
CheckDavid: But cool story
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00074859 = 3.2564 BTC [-]
punkman needs a 3D model made
punkman: chetty, any designers hanging around #eulora?
chetty: we keep em busy
pete_dushenski: pete_duknow reporting for duty
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/13984/ode-julia/ << leaving this here for pete_d :D << lol because canuckian?
assbot: Ode to Julia – Bitcoin Magazine
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell JuliaTourianski_ whereabouts in canada are you living?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ahjahaha what ? pete meets a neonazi ? lmao. << gotta stir the pot, y'know?
assbot: Tte--Tte With A Neo-National Socialist | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: there's no sense in holding "a people" or "a community" liable for actions of their ancestors, is there? << sorta depends, did "the people" meaningfully change since their ancestors? do they still tie up their shoes the same way? still read the same books? time doesn't necessitate change.
pete_dushenski: if no change, then it depends on how useful holding descendants accountable is.
jurov: it's US who didn't change?
pete_dushenski: jurov: is that USA or "not them" ?
jurov: not them
pete_dushenski: that the observer changes effects their own action
pete_dushenski: and surely whether or not they hold "the other" accountable for the actions of their forefathers
pete_dushenski: but in this specific instance, it's not clear that either has changed.
jurov: we can actually hold our forefathers accountable but rarely anyone does
pete_dushenski: the roots being quite deep.
pete_dushenski: jurov: it's surely easier if they're alive
pete_dushenski: if they're dead, we can choose to ignore their actions and pretend like tabula rasas are possible
pete_dushenski: a la stalin, ataturk, etc.
pete_dushenski: this, of course, opens one up to being twist turned upside down
pete_dushenski: be it by rationalist, scientistic ideals or what have you
pete_dushenski: so while "rarely anyone does" in the post 19th century west, most other times and places take their ancestors quite seriously
pete_dushenski: this lends itself to continuity, stability, and other "good things" imo
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform thank you for recommending "the sultans" !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: heya mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: kdomanski: ;;seen genjix << win.
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ ^ your friend amir lolz
mircea_popescu: also wow, she's still connected off a freenode instance ? what the fuck industrial strength internet they have down at the russian bathhouse!
pete_dushenski: lol russian bathhouse? thought she was in the 52nd state
mircea_popescu: well yes.
Azelphur: Is everyone still hating on genjix? XD
mircea_popescu: Azelphur despising != hating.
Azelphur: I always feel like the only person who actually likes him
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla +mircea_popescu didn;t see that sorry- you guys do realize I literally know evryone in the space and am "associated" with everyone, depending on how you look at it. << this is gold
mircea_popescu: punkman darknedgy ?! they're seriously running out.
pete_dushenski: Azelphur: nah see JuliaTourianski_ and you have that in common ;)
mircea_popescu: azzie and julie sittin' in a tree...
Azelphur: haha
mircea_popescu: k i s s i n taaki!
Azelphur: nicely done ;)
mircea_popescu: i am a master of the written worm.
mircea_popescu: i mean ford.
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's it, i am a master of the written ford.
Azelphur: but nah, I agree he was a terrible businessman, but then nobody should have put him in a business position anyway, he's a programmer
mircea_popescu: HE put himself in a business position
mircea_popescu: by his idiotic if contemporaneously fashionable insistance on fluff and i can do anythingism,.
Azelphur shrugs
mircea_popescu: i told him to stfu and mind his own business like 3 times.
mircea_popescu: for that matter nefario, too.
mircea_popescu: but hey, kids know better and i am just hating their genius.
mircea_popescu: !up andylau
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: haha, over the years I've learned you're generally right about these things :P
Azelphur: I still don't think genjix should be discounted as a programmer though, he's a damned good one and that'd be one hell of a waste.
mircea_popescu: too much cognitive dissonance to handle, 500 idiots keep telling them how special they are then mp says stfu and crochet.
mircea_popescu: the human brain doesn't handle exceptions well
Azelphur: I suppose
mircea_popescu: either overweights or underweights them unduly.
mircea_popescu: kinda well known psychology, this, hence the memory effect and all that.
pete_dushenski: Dimsler: i knew vitalik when he was in waterloo. buying bitcoins off me << lol!
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid: Sincerely don't know. << nobody EVER liked html email. and there's a pretty good argument that it's completely a tech misapplication, like the cigarette lighter oven.
mircea_popescu: you don't need or want an oven to light your cigarette.
Azelphur: I've met taaki a couple times now
Azelphur: his family lives just around the corner from me
mircea_popescu: jurov: CheckDavid send him to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a time. << i like how practical jurov is. yeah, best move there.
mircea_popescu: with any luck he'll be hired away from you and it's win-win.
mircea_popescu: "Join the Freelancer Shareholder Foundation Program and get a discount on WSO listing fees"
Azelphur: speaking of hired, I'm doing good stuff at BitRecruiter, I wrote something that might be a good idea for MPEX actually, https://github.com/Azelphur/django-bcauth
assbot: Azelphur/django-bcauth GitHub
mircea_popescu: look at that, freelancer.com is spamming unregistered share sales offers!
mircea_popescu: which happens to be illegal.
mircea_popescu wonders if the SEC, ever so careful with these things, is yet investigating the underhanded practices of matt barrie &co
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's just that the gear switch from derpyland to btcland is bound to culture shock a little. << on the moolah
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: if no change, then it depends on how useful holding descendants accountable is. < no, i'm with him. this makes exactly zero sense, chiefly because a group may be ridiculous, impractical, suicidal, anything you wish, but never wrong. only individuals can be wrong, in that they don't subscribe to the moral scheme of some group they intend to be part of. ther
kakobrekla: <punkman> http://imgur.com/a/4PyZK < wtf, so much overhead for 100kbits
assbot: Kialara - Imgur
mircea_popescu: e's no such thing as "evil group" possible.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ancestors need not be a group or identify themselves as part of one
mircea_popescu: but you identified them as a group not as individuals.
pete_dushenski: ancestors can be individuals who spawned further individuals
mircea_popescu: only if you call the object through THAT constructor.
pete_dushenski: you're right, i did, and now i'm exploiting the escape hatch in my own reasoning
mircea_popescu: if i say "b-a cannucks" i create one group, if i say " pete_dushenski, nubbins, [...]" i create a group with the same members, but through a different method, which makes it in fact a different group for this conversation.
pete_dushenski: i shoulda been more spasifik!
mats_cd03: spoiler: CheckDavid is his own boss
Dimsler: blah
Dimsler: 9am
Dimsler: too early to be up
assbot: BitBet - 20% difficulty increase before 2015 :: 9.39 B (60%) on Yes, 6.39 B (40%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 74`958 (100`000 to 1`000)
mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 322181 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 378 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 7 hours, 39 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34912851483.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.04044
pete_dushenski: definitely a fun bet, that one!
mircea_popescu: it's perhaps the best display of the fundamental incalculability of bitcoin events.
mircea_popescu: i mean go ahead and model it, quantize it, whatevs.
thestringpuller: Azelphur: that's neat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00074849 = 11.1899 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c drop me a line when back.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> i mean go ahead and model it, quantize it, whatevs. < done that! https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fshrani.si%2Ff%2F3l%2FOQ%2F2JCCgxKS%2Fcritpred3.png&t=544&c=KTeygwMIAwsIWw
kakobrekla: note that this was more of a fun play rather anything else
kakobrekla: this is from feb 2013
kakobrekla: the funny thing is - its not much off :)
mircea_popescu: also, as previously announced, the extra 2mn S.BBET shares were distributed to owners.
mircea_popescu: !up CheckDavid
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: ye toronto conf was dope actually << have you read http://contravex.com/2014/04/16/ex-post-toronto-bitcoin-expo/
assbot: Ex-Post: Toronto Bitcoin Expo | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla were the algos ever published ?
mircea_popescu: or mind extending it to today ?
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> or mind extending it to today ? < mebbe when i have more time
kakobrekla: this two were evolved after only a day or two iirc
pete_dushenski: https://rushwallet.com/contest << i'm guessing they didn't use dicelists
assbot: Rushwallet | Contest
pete_dushenski: "Up for grabs are 2 bitcoins hidden in 30 different brainwallets. Search for clues in the RushWallet Fundraiser video to unlock each wallet and claim the bitcoins. "
pete_dushenski: 0.025 btc each wallet
pete_dushenski: not 2...
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.025 * 30
gribble: 0.75
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4384 @ 0.00074975 = 3.2869 BTC [+]
mats_cd03: some of 'em have 0.05, 0.1, & 1.0 apparently.
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: thanks for the input. In your perspective is there any value in HTML emails?
CheckDavid: So you think it generally converts less right?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, most clients people actually use don't even render html.
CheckDavid: Most?
mircea_popescu: so you end up wit ha pile of cruft that just guarantees you rejected.
thestringpuller: plaintext emails yo
thestringpuller: don't send html to niggas using mutt
CheckDavid: Most web clients do. And many desktop and.mobile clients do as well
mircea_popescu: most people doing anything worth the mention have been using email since before 2000.
mircea_popescu: plenty since before 1990
CheckDavid: I just want to convince my boss to not use HTML
mircea_popescu: if you imagine they all moved to google because google, you're new here.
mircea_popescu: sure, you can talk to the under 30 crowd on html email.
mircea_popescu: they don't make any decisions.
thestringpuller: except Zuckerberg
CheckDavid: Oh. So that's the deal?
bounce has a serious problem taking people seriously if they do stupid stuff like send html for no reason, or top-post, or any number of boneheaded things that the aol generation does with gay abandon
mircea_popescu: bounce i top post like a boss :D
thestringpuller: lol AOL is the one who introduced HTML mail?
CheckDavid: What about formatted text in emails?
CheckDavid: Like worrying about font
bounce: aol started the deluge
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid formatted means | and > and such
bounce: 72 cols fixed pitch is the standing assumption
CheckDavid: What is | and > in this context?
bounce: "> " is the typical quote indicator, though it gets replaced or simply represented differently at times.
mircea_popescu: | and > are quotes
assbot: Re: Theory #51 (superior(?) programming languages) - Naggum cll archive
bounce: just like "-- " indicates the start of the signature, and a good mail client won't quote that. there's very few good mail clients in wide use these days.
thestringpuller: >> like vim?
mircea_popescu: anyway, dear all : i'll be taking a trip. see you all tomorrows!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is away
thestringpuller: everyone act crazy
CheckDavid: I see mircea_popescu. So you saying formatting should be limited to that
CheckDavid: Bye :)
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "20% difficulty increase before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1036/ Odds: 56(Y):44(N) by coin, 55(Y):45(N) by weight. Total bet: 16.78041982 BTC. Current weight: 74,932.
kakobrekla: good luck mp
bounce: your search keyword of the day: "netiquette"
bounce: could do worse than start with reading RFC1855
mats_cd03: i have suspended the blacklights from the ceiling
mats_cd03: white Ts and glo paint are en route
assbot: The Empire Is The Good Guys, Revisited | Creative Destruction
xmj: what
mats_cd03: tl;dr jedi r terrorists
bounce: this looks a different piece than "the case for the empire", which appears to be older
assbot: Analysis of the bathroom mystery. - Imgur
Namworld: Eh, it's dead time of the day isn't it?
kakobrekla: the cast took a break
kakobrekla: !up CheckDavid
CheckDavid: Thanks
CheckDavid: How can bitpay have more profit than sales ?
kakobrekla: Guest26284 , you wanna do /nick yournick
Guest26284: I've done that and it's not working erk
kakobrekla: what does it say?
Guest26284: -NickServ- You are now identified for.... and then im still guest
xmj: Guest26284: /msg nickserv release <nick> helps
kakobrekla: imma guess you didnt /msg nickserv identify in time
kakobrekla: xmj doesnt that cmd take a pswd
xmj: dont remember, prolly
xmj: /msg nickserv help release
Guest26284: pftt/
kakobrekla: the thing is, if you dont identify in time, it will lock you out for some time
kakobrekla: you can wait or go around it with release
Guest26284: how fast do u have to do it, dont think i waiting that long
ben_vulpes: all things considered, barack obama's really inspiring
ben_vulpes: i mean he caught a nobel peace price, but eventually overcame it
assbot: Feds say Bitcoin miner maker Butterfly Labs ran systematic deception | Ars Technica
rithm: roflbomb at bfl
Duffer1: "BFL spent millions on massages, guns, and more"
xmj: guntha_: there's plugins to auto identify you once nickserv asks for it
xmj: err
thestringpuller: is the nail in the coffin yet?
mats_cd03: on the one hand, potus is killing brown people and oppressing white people
mats_cd03: on the other hand, obamacare has and will heal a lot of poor
mats_cd03: a mixed legacy for sure.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell hanbot I want to see the look on bfl_josh's face.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 986 @ 0.0006086 = 0.6001 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074485 / 0.00074853 / 0.00075257 (415230 shares, 310.81 BTC), 7D: 0.00074485 / 0.0007502 / 0.00075526 (4175975 shares, 3,132.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00059659 / 0.00075921 / 0.00086605 (16104012 shares, 12,226.39 BTC)
thestringpuller: !l s s.mpoe
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
thestringpuller: $depth s.mpoe
empyex: thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Bids: 20124 @ 0.00074846 9350 @ 0.00074835 12900 @ 0.00074768 6558 @ 0.00074692
empyex: thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Asks: 4966 @ 0.00074975 15600 @ 0.00075110 6797 @ 0.00075257 21815 @ 0.00075384
thestringpuller: !l m s.mpoe
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00074975 BTC [+]
mats_cd03: that Bitcoin Ladder page needs an update... 19 months since last change
rithm: l-e-g-i-t
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 0.82799136 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 72 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.27252613 BTC to 15`097 shares, 8429 satoshi per share
assbot: Backblaze Blog » Hard Drive Reliability Update – Sep 2014
mod6: %tslb_btc
atcbot: Time Since Last BTC Block (#322194): 0 hour(s), 5 minutes
mod6: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 57 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 230 @ 0.0075 = 1.725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00074846 = 10.2539 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2113 @ 0.00058673 = 1.2398 BTC [-] {23}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00074975 = 2.5492 BTC [+]
assbot: jQuery.com Malware Attack Puts Privileged Enterprise IT Accounts at Risk | RiskIQ.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 2200 @ 0.0075 = 16.5 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "PayPal has announced partnerships with the three largest payment processors in the bitcoin space – BitPay, Coinbase and GoCoin."
assbot: PayPal Takes Baby Step Toward Bitcoin, Partners With Cryptocurrency Processors - Forbes
ThickAsThieves: "...to accept the cryptocurrency for digital goods like online games and downloadable songs. It’s a second baby step for the payments giant toward full Bitcoin adoption ..."
Duffer1: ah so that's why the rally
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01119999 = 0.56 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 414.49, Best ask: 414.92, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 414.92, 24 hour volume: 11889.97164427, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 414.93, 24 hour vwap: 401.279180206
ThickAsThieves: tagged 420
ThickAsThieves: probly pass it
Duffer1: pretty weak news for such a rally
Duffer1: digital goods only
TomServo: That's what I was thinking. I'd rather see some FOIA results.
ThickAsThieves: the signifigance is it's actually PayPal touching btc
ThickAsThieves: rathe rthan some daughter lamer startup of theirs
Duffer1: i agree, but it's a rather small touch
ThickAsThieves: plus traders were ready for an excuse
Duffer1: yea lol
ThickAsThieves: breaking 380 was looking difficult
ThickAsThieves: hence why I closed all my shorts and such over the weekend :)
jurov: ofc, rally a hour after i sold some
ThickAsThieves: the bitcoin partnership is pretty limited
ThickAsThieves: it looks like you have to have a coinbase wallet or such
assbot: Seite nicht gefunden - PayPal Deutschland
ThickAsThieves: is that cuz assbot is dutch?
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 428.0, Best ask: 430.86, Bid-ask spread: 2.86000, Last trade: 431.11, 24 hour volume: 14387.31775314, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 431.11, 24 hour vwap: 405.55456255
ThickAsThieves: hmm gribble is delayed
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 45(Y):55(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 29.11575605 BTC. Current weight: 42,062.
Duffer1: back for round 2 JuliaTourianski_ ? :D
JuliaTourianski_: fight!
ben_vulpes: *ding ding ding*
ThickAsThieves: i dont wanna fight
ben_vulpes: just want to bang on a drum all day?
danielpbarron slaps JuliaTourianski_ around a bit with a large unspent output
ben_vulpes: wow you're crushing hard danielpbarron
danielpbarron slaps ben_vulpes around a bit with a large self projection
ben_vulpes: ho ho ho
assbot: Big Pun - Still not a player - YouTube
thestringpuller: I never did like Big Pun.
JuliaTourianski_: fukin love this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7QvOX8LVk
assbot: Yung Jake - Datamosh - YouTube
thestringpuller: LOL. I love how there is a Tyler the Creator song in the related search.
thestringpuller: this guy sounds like he is on so many drugs
TomServo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 437.27, Best ask: 438.03, Bid-ask spread: 0.76000, Last trade: 438.03, 24 hour volume: 22361.75362852, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 450.0, 24 hour vwap: 417.838247521
ben_vulpes: from the girl: "A cool thing I discovered is that squash makes the bechamel almost kraft colored, so if we ever have children who refuse to eat white mac n cheese, I can TRICK THEM"
ben_vulpes: "I bet yams would make it even oranger. God, imagine the foodie irony such children present: I will make a roasted vegetable bechamel cheese sauce to appease your desire for processed American food products"
ben_vulpes: "these hypothetical children are guests of our children, obviously. Our progeny will have refined palettes before they can hold a crayon."
TomServo tries to imagine a child not licking mac n cheese.
TomServo: or liking, for that matter.
BingoBoingo: I believe the traditional adultrant for that purpose is annatto
assbot: Chelsea Manning Sues U.S. Over Hormone Therapy Denial - Bloomberg
mats_cd03: ben_vulpes: you found this girl in portland i suppose?
pete_dushenski: justice will be served!
BingoBoingo: !up mp_sails
pete_dushenski: so now youtube is obama's wmd
assbot: Obama Extends His YouTube War - The New Yorker
mats_cd03: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 435.54, Best ask: 435.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 435.54, 24 hour volume: 22622.98484045, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 450.0, 24 hour vwap: 418.809047247
mp_sails: hola gringos
pete_dushenski: lol hola mp_sails
mp_sails: !up _George_
mp_sails: como estan
pete_dushenski: estamos bien :)
mp_sails: "estados unidos" har har har
pete_dushenski: como esta la mar?
mp_sails: jugosa
pete_dushenski: lol estamos unidos contra...
pete_dushenski: mp_sails: so how long of a cruise are you taking that you lugged a laptop along?
mp_sails: i have this in common with your top clearance defense contractor : that i lug a stack of laptops.
mp_sails: my own little caravan of sorts.
asciilifeform: estamos unidos << estabamos.
ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: nyc actulolly
pete_dushenski: speaking of laptops, til that the macbook air's ssd is of a mystery brand until you personally crack open the unibody case and look inside
pete_dushenski: that hard drive annual failure rate thing had me hunting
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i always found it maddening that 'ssd' can't be used optimally as a normal block device.
mp_sails: Namworld, now that's weird
mats_cd03: shes adorbs.
xanthyos: woah, i'm in assbot's l1? i don't deserve that.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm what's a "normal block device" and what does it do?
mp_sails: CheckDavid: How can bitpay have more profit than sales ? << lmao
mp_sails: xanthyos, you are ?
xanthyos: isnt' that what it takes to get voiced?
mike_c: mp_sails: ping
mp_sails: mike_c, yes but its gotta be once im at hq :)
mp_sails: soz.
Apocalyptic: xanthyos, nope, it's l2
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: reads, writes block N when asked.
mike_c: k, i'll be around
assbot: The Bitcoin Lordship list, first revision pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mp_sails: so nyah!
mp_sails: olil3olli3, dude srsly stop with the join spam
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: what does an ssd do differently?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: differently << needs massaging for 'write-leveling.'
mp_sails: assbot: Feds say Bitcoin miner maker Butterfly Labs ran systematic deception | Ars Technica << and only two years late.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: some of it is done by the internal micro of the device, but given as the latter is not filesystem-aware (at least one should hope not) - it isn't as effective as os-driven massage.
mp_sails: mats_cd03: on the other hand, obamacare has and will heal a lot of poor << obamacare is sort-of like that thing where they destroy a neighbourhood, build a huge condo complex and give five activist "poor" people free housing.
mp_sails: a) it has not helped a lot of poor and b) all the unhelped poor that were fine before are suddenly "unnacounted" for.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: an ssd isn't as effective at writing and reading? then from where do they derive their speed benefits?
mp_sails: nothing mixed about it unless you mean mixed bullshit, horse shit and plain manure salad.
mats_cd03: convince me with data, now or in a few years
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: ssd works great until ion migration destroys ability to write to sufficiently many cells.
mp_sails: mats_cd03, easy to convince you now : the obamacare website was offline for months after it supposedly launched,
mp_sails: and then a year later had 10k or so signups a month.
mp_sails: case closed, really.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'write leveling' is a method of delaying this inevitable death - and there are several ways of doing it. if interested, read up on the subject, it isn't a military secret.
JuliaTourianski_: pete_dushenski were you asking where I'm from or was that someone else
mats_cd03: i will have to do some research.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: your explanation has more than sufficed for the time being, ty :)
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: mhm, then i kept reading the logs and saw missisauga, neh?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5103 @ 0.00053291 = 2.7194 BTC [-] {21}
mp_sails: mats_cd03, look into the crazed effects on the lower middle class, where people who could afford insurance before can't anymore, too. because htey're now not poor enough to be poor and not rich enough to be rich.
assbot: AnandTech | The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ - Print View
mp_sails: jurov: ofc, rally a hour after i sold some << lol you and artifex should make a sellers and movers club :D
mp_sails: like movers and shakers, but different.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: actually, prior to herr obama, they could afford insurance (actual insurance against, e.g., sudden injury) but not the 'insurance' that most usaschwitz inmates speak of (not an insurance at all, but a scheme where someone - usually employer - pays so that a plebe can actually get medical care of any sort, which, as result, is not affordable in any other way)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 140 @ 0.01119998 = 1.568 BTC [+] {2}
mp_sails: asciilifeform, this is complicated.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: demand-side subsidies are a ratchet - who wants to be the first to have a repeal apply to him, and starve...
mp_sails: for instance : when i visited the us, i got insurance for pretty much everything except electives.
bounce: this has been such a pile of fail that I've been ignoring it. I don't suppose anything actually improved measurably, did it?
mp_sails: it cost me, get a load of this, it cost me ~100 pounds for a year's worth
mp_sails: bounce, no, but by now nothing is failing spectacularly further, so the propaganda machine is gearing up to counting it as a success.
JuliaTourianski_: +pete_dushenski not quite, but ye GTA
mp_sails: like the bridge that fell into the river. once done falling, it's ready to be inaugurated.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: a story about buying insurance, to be truly educational, has to involve... actually invoking the policy.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, i can see your point, byt it was underwritten by lloyds of london. i give it some credence.
mp_sails: (on the grounds that they did cover say a boat once, and behaved as an insurer as opposed to what passes for such in the us)
bounce: well, there's good advice. get your US insurance at lloyd's
mp_sails: this was many years ago. not sure they even offer it sanymore.
asciilifeform: i dare say mp_sails probably seemed quite a bit more insurable than a usaschwitz inmate - from appraiser's point of view
mp_sails: asciilifeform, im not entirely sure how all the intricacies work but if memory serves they were actually legally barred from considering prior commercial relationship
mp_sails: as in, they can't give a better life policy to the guy who owns a shipping line they insure than to random clerk walking in off street.
asciilifeform: prior relationship - sure. other things?
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: a cool. how are you enjoying b-a thus far?
mp_sails: well yeah i guess there is that.
bounce: being a gourmet instead of a hcfs addict?
mthreat: mp_sails: porqué "_sails"?
JuliaTourianski_: +pete_dushenski so far
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005156 = 0.5156 BTC [+] {5}
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: i think you missed the "how" … :P
asciilifeform: when i ask people, 'what would happen to the price of cars if usg gave you 10k usd every time you bought one?' - they grasp it.
JuliaTourianski_: +pete_dushenski so i did
JuliaTourianski_: +pete_dushenski haven't formed an opinion yet
JuliaTourianski_: +pete_dushenski you're from my part of town i take it?
JuliaTourianski_: requested CTCP VERSION from JuliaTourianski_ ??
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: edmonton, it so happens
bounce: now you need DHMO to wash the evil CTCP out of your macbook
bounce: problem is, DHMO kills, so be careful
jborkl: I moved everything to ssl and it should all be green. You guys mind giving it a test and tell me if it all seems good
jborkl: www.bcoinnews.com
The20YearIRCloud: Insurance is a complicated mess in the US, it all started back when the govt first decided they should control healthcare
The20YearIRCloud: because the 'poor man' couldn't afford healthcare, which back then was 1/3rd the cost of what it was even factoring in inflation
mp_sails: high seas!
mp_sails: i can't believe after all these years satellite is still this shitty.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: i'm gonna guess you hadn't paid for dedicated 'horns' on multiple sats...
jurov: The20YearIRCloud as i see it from here, the US doctors first decided they must control healthcare
mp_sails: mthreat, for because the navigational reason.
jurov: govt happily obliged
ben_vulpes: <mp_sails> mats_cd03, look into the crazed effects on the lower middle class, where people who could afford insurance before can't anymore, too. because htey're now not poor enough to be poor and not rich enough to be rich. << true story. i can't really afford the shit now.
mp_sails: jurov, doctors dont really control it tho
mp_sails: ben_vulpes, pretty much half or more of the young professional, 10-20mn people are in this position
mp_sails: tbh it'd be mjuch more sensible to jjust shoot everyone and keep these guys than the other way around.
mp_sails: the people you can't under any circumstance sacrifice are the 20somethings with a career.
The20YearIRCloud: The doctors?
mp_sails: doctors or farmers, whatever they be
The20YearIRCloud: IT was a part of Johnson's plan of buying all the poor people votes in the US by pushing through medicare/medicaid
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Lock apprears. Also, maybe update the BFL thing again...
The20YearIRCloud: From 1930-1963 median healthcare costs were lock-step with average inflation (1-3% a year), after 1964 suddenly you have increases of 4%-25% per year, every single year
mp_sails: asciilifeform, southern hemisphere is not that well illuminated anyway
The20YearIRCloud: After 1964 you also see dozens, if not hundreds of large-scale laws dealing with the medical industry, when prior there were few if any laws regarding healthcare in the US
mthreat: mp_sails: are you sailing?
jborkl: ok, thank you I have been busy fixing all the ssl crap and forgot about everything else
mp_sails: The20YearIRCloud, the most obvious display of this being if you compare say an emergency apendectomy in lyons and miami
mp_sails: mthreat, well no, im sitting an' typing, but im close to people that do.
The20YearIRCloud: What's the difference in cost?
mp_sails: if i actually sailed myself i'd prolly sink the whole show
mp_sails: The20YearIRCloud, maybe 6x ?
The20YearIRCloud: In Miami when you pay for an emergency apendectomy, you're paying for an apendectomy for yourself and 3 other people
mp_sails: ambulance ride for half an hour, e800 or whatever. ya know ?
asciilifeform: mp_sails: The20YearIRCloud: 3 other people << try 33.
mp_sails: insanely expensive when compared to the e80 a cab would take, but not the $18k or whatever insanity
The20YearIRCloud: I was being nice
assbot: Why an MRI costs $1,080 in America and $280 in France - The Washington Post
mp_sails: right. exactly that.
The20YearIRCloud: There's a MRI comparison. What's interesting though is that MRIs are one of the few healthcare things that aren't strictly regulated in the US
The20YearIRCloud: But, when you go to a 'hospital' and get a MRI, they're $1k-$2.5k
mp_sails: and moreove,r most eu mri are done on... us gear.
mp_sails: somehow. and eu doctors are slightly overqualified when compared to us.
mp_sails: somehow. and yet...
The20YearIRCloud: But, you don't have to go to a hospital to get one, you can go to a healthcare clinic that isn't attached to any government program, isn't required to pay any government fees and the like, and they magically cost $149, using newer machines
The20YearIRCloud: In Columbus, a group got together and called every single hospital, and every single MRI clinic and got the price for their MRI scans. The average hospital (Which is highly regulated, takes government money, is required by law to provide everyone with medical care regardless of whether they can pay and so on) ran from a minimum of $1600 to a maximum of
The20YearIRCloud: $2,500. The independent clinics that did MRIs and a few other small things ranged from $149 to the very highest at $279
mp_sails: which is about where igt is. i mean yeah sure the equipment is expensive and the staff has ot be qualified.
mp_sails: but you know what ? power plants are also expenmsive, and the staff qualified. yet the kwh is not $850
mp_sails: yet at least. maybe they elect al gore and it goes there.
The20YearIRCloud: Power plant isn't also required to give free electricity out. They can cut people off
mp_sails: hahahahahah
mp_sails: look into that sometime.
mp_sails: they have to spend $1k to install fancy stuff so nonpayers can be "limited", it's a whole shitshow
mp_sails: pretty much everywhere.
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 446.83, Best ask: 448.69, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 446.83, 24 hour volume: 25066.19201089, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 452.67, 24 hour vwap: 421.882216672
The20YearIRCloud: Not around here
mp_sails: if you think you just cut power to the deadbeats and that's it you're living a dream.
asciilifeform: looking at cost of medicinal whatever in usaschwitz without considering the automatic, inevitable effect of the giant moneybag - is like studying corpse with magnifying glass to search for cause of death, ignoring twenty bullet holes
asciilifeform: see also the 'housing in siliconvalley' thread.
The20YearIRCloud: mp_sails: looking real quick at what places do it, it seems NY and CA do that, but i can certify that in Ohio, they cut your power
mp_sails: well ok, i dunno ohio specifically.
assbot: Utility Bill Cutoffs | Lawyers.com
pete_dushenski: http://contravex.com/2014/09/23/please-to-pgp-guide-for-linux-os-x-windows/ << linux users: feel free to let me know if i missed or botched something!
assbot: Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
mp_sails: can't cu tpower if it's cold. or hot. or if the deadbeat has a doctor's note. or makes a promise to pay
mp_sails: or etc.
The20YearIRCloud: Ohio has a freeze deal where if it's below freezing they won't shut it off till it thaws out, then they shut it off
The20YearIRCloud: The promise to pay for all the Ohio plants is pretty simple, if you can obtain credit they'll extend payment over summer months, but quite a few can't qualify for it
The20YearIRCloud: Well ,deadbeats can't
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'Only plain text files (.txt) can be encrypted.' << ???
jurov: pete_dushenski: on linux, user usually installs gpg using package manager, not install it from source
The20YearIRCloud: mp_sails: why the name change?
mp_sails: unless you actually read code, the compile business is a little silly.
jurov: pete_dushenski: or you expressly want everyone to avoid gpg 2.0?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: umm … lol ya that's not true, is it.
mp_sails: The20YearIRCloud, well cause im travelling
The20YearIRCloud: you sailing?
mp_sails: practically!
pete_dushenski: jurov: 2.0 is fine, but it doesn't work for older mac os x, so i ended up lumping linux in with 1.4
pete_dushenski: besides, isn't older better?
pete_dushenski: i don't know if 1.4 works with gpg services on >osx 10.6
mp_sails: um why wouldn't it ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: but the command line operations only recognize .txt files, neh?
mp_sails: ben_vulpes: just want to bang on a drum all day? <<< i've never banged on a drum before...
mp_sails: pete_dushenski, neh.
mp_sails: tis a silly proposition, wtf has format to d owith anything ? this is unix not windows.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: new meaning for 'drumhead court-martial'...
mp_sails: "she gives drum head!"
jurov: pete, the site you linked says about linux binaries "The following links direct you to external sites and those may provide old and possible very outdated versions of GnuPG."
jurov: so it's better to just say use package manager
mp_sails: in any case on;ly use SIGNED binaries.
mp_sails: and verify the signature is actually correct etc.
mp_sails: incidentally, this is a key service b-a should provide i think. maintain a repository of key software infrastructure, precompiled, signed.
mp_sails: prolly too soon, but anyway.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: precompiled << for what. (e.g., which libc? and who volunteers to grok and sign that? etc)
kakobrekla: most often the signature and file is on same server which makes the whole thing kinda useless
asciilifeform: mp_sails: 'it's all in one strand!'
assbot: The Spittoon - Pastebin.com
bounce: as long as the signing key isn't there, how is that proximity a problem?
kakobrekla: ah brainfart, i was thinking hash
pete_dushenski: jurov mp_sails editing, ty!
jurov: btw as most package managers do use gpg to check packages, it is usually preinstalled
mthreat: mp_sails: here is your official background music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7khQNR7s1Ho
assbot: Sailing - Christopher Cross - YouTube
The20YearIRCloud: that just played on my spotify
mp_sails: mthreat, not bad!
mp_sails: asciilifeform, i know, huge workload. but once btc is 800k i think ima hire a small office dedicatdd to it
mp_sails: <kakobrekla> most often the signature and file is on same server which makes the whole thing kinda useless << i mean, wot signature.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: not merely huge workload. journey to the moon on stacked chairs - unless done correctly - i.e. bonfire of the computations.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, perhaps.
mp_sails: still, fact remains people grab a copy of gpg or w/e.
mp_sails: openssl.
mp_sails: and the next chair on that pile is, proper github. ie, github with read wot.
bounce: how'd that work?
mp_sails: that was the worst youtube experience ever mthreat. 3 seconds sound, 10 seconds buffering ftw.
mp_sails: bounce, every line of code bears the signature of all the people who read it and certify it's fine.
mp_sails: well, "logical" line anyway
asciilifeform: mp_sails: only to have whole edifice poisoned by a subtle multithreaded 'bug' in kernel, or small 'mistake' in cpu microcode.
mp_sails: so you can set your package manager to disregard anything say w/o 3 assbot l2 trust.
bounce: chinesely interesting figuring out how to do that without exploding the store
mp_sails: asciilifeform, at the very least this is better than nothing. at the very best this goes all the way to chips.
bounce: unless you'd go for the obvious but inconvenient route of signing everything in a specific commit
mp_sails: ie, consumer group pressure power : either get your chips assbot-certified or don't sell to us.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: investing in existing infrastructure, paradoxically, makes us all the more fucked - imho
mp_sails: bounce, agreed. which is why it's introduced as a chair for a chair for later on.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: on account of becoming ever more reluctant to put it to the torch
mp_sails: asciilifeform, investing in future infrastructure has us waiting for xmases.
mp_sails: practically speaking, practice will be a practical exercise.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: for the practical and immediate - BingoBoingo's approach. (curate a museum)
mp_sails: ;;later tell jborkl if you keep doin this multiline spam of old posts hyou'll end up out of pinguirker
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: incidentally, for the practical&immediate folks, i recommend study of f. bellard's 'tinycc'.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, well... what's one to do you know ?
mp_sails: one that isn't torvalds.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: it's a c compiler a man can read.
mp_sails: no i know what tinycc is.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: x86, but trivial retarget.
mp_sails: was talking at museum line
asciilifeform: mp_sails: museum - collect apparatus from a generation ago. not because 'clean', but because can be studied with considerably lighter effort.
mp_sails: ben_vulpes: "these hypothetical children are guests of our children, obviously. Our progeny will have refined palettes before they can hold a crayon." << o boy are you in for a crude soulraep.
asciilifeform: mp_sails: just here in this channel, you'll turn up at least two, perhaps three people who, as boys, understood virtually the entire 'ms-dos' say.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, i'm the one they laugh at for "ux", whike they get owned with shitty riuby/java/what have you
mp_sails proud user of the museum paradigm.
bounce: oh the days of walking through (live) memory with a self-written memory dumper, or trawling the disk with whatwasit, norton or undelete, to see what old crap I'd deleted months ago
mp_sails: bounce, undelete yeah
mp_sails: except the non-dos version had some bugs ruined some hdds
mp_sails: that was a lol. back in 1993 or w/e it was
mp_sails: when did windows nt come out again ?
bounce: this was drdos (5? with 4dos of course), so probably something slightly different again. did look at, but IIRC didn't keep a copy of the drdos 7 source when it got released.
mp_sails: ha, 1993, right i am
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mp_sails: mthreat, how do you say decaulker in espanol ?
mp_sails: in retrospect, hard to believe it's been 20 years and ms is sgtill a thing.
bounce: needed quite the fsckton of tools to compile. TASM, MASM, BCC, whatever else. various versions even, they apparently weren't great at keeping a lid on the requirements mess.
BingoBoingo had a laptop arrive with manufacterer branded DOS 3.3 once
ThickAsThieves: is enky's blog in the b-a blogroll?
mp_sails: bounce, i remember the shock and awe when i noticed gwbasic can produce bytecode
ThickAsThieves: i dont think it is
mp_sails: "just like a real program!!11"
mp_sails: ThickAsThieves, not afaik.
mp_sails: enky is very shy for some reason.
ThickAsThieves: he'll talk about ta stuff tho
mp_sails: !up Enky
mthreat: mp_sails: decaulker? what is that? a tool that removes caulking?
mthreat: not sure in spanish, especially argentine spanish. according to google translate, "caulking" -> "calafateo", and "caulk" -> "masilla"
mthreat: maybe "un herramienta para sacar masilla o calafateo"
mthreat: ("a tool for removing caulking or caulk")
mp_sails: i now have a mindbreaking question for spanish speaking english ppl! yay.
mthreat mind broken
bounce: probably don't want to remove that stuff while sailing
mthreat: agree with bounce
mp_sails: i collect those. once broke the will to live of a young girl teaching english at uni
mp_sails: by asking her to translate flail to romanian.
mp_sails: bounce, it's not my boat so...
mthreat: MP hobbies: cognac, bitcoin, breaking wills, ...
mp_sails: bitcoin is no hobby!
mthreat: but the others ...
mp_sails: (flail is imblaciu in ro, the process a imblaci. it's such an obscure word pretty much only medieval tool specialists evne know it)
Namworld: Paypal is going to do... what?
Namworld: Re tat's link
mp_sails: nothing and make a pr thing about it.
mp_sails: well that'll be all for now, laters!
Namworld: It managed to make price go all derpy again.
JuliaTourianski_: brock pierce strikes again, paypal kind of accepting btc
JuliaTourianski_: +Rassah I know you, privet
bounce: !up rassah
Rassah: hi
Rassah: Surprised to see you here :)
assbot: Online Services Bug Bounty Guidelines
mats_cd03: ms announces bug bounty for vulns on its domains.
BingoBoingo: !up strpfndr
strpfndr: hi, BingoBoingo, thanks. nothing to say though.
strpfndr: ohhh, maybe I do :) Did I send you the application I'd sent to Breakout Labs?
strpfndr: (on the same subject we had discussed)
BingoBoingo: strpfndr: No, don't particular care to recieve it either.
BingoBoingo: !down strpfndr
assbot: BFL Statement FINAL 09 23 14
assbot: dpaste: 2CDFD45
ben_vulpes: JuliaTourianski_: why'd you keep the underscore?
ben_vulpes: <mp_sails> if i actually sailed myself i'd prolly sink the whole show << daw it ain't that hard
ben_vulpes: 2 masts?
ben_vulpes: mp_sails: just 'cause she claims it dun mean i buy it to any degree. larvae are larvae.
Duffer1: BUTTERFLY LABS RESPONSE more lies from lying liers
Duffer1: liars even
kakobrekla: alibaba is supposedly worth as much as all the properties in slovenia.
JuliaTourianski_: +ben_vulpes no idea how that happened. noobicle.
decimation: asciilifeform: re:existing infrastructure << I think openbsd refuses to support multiple cpus
decimation: mp_sails: are you using imarsat?
decimation: s/imarsat/inmarsat/
ben_vulpes: JuliaTourianski_: talk to nanotube if you want it changed. say "please" - he's a nice guy.
bounce: IIRC you can do that yourself with gribble. also group the nick with nickserv
decimation: kakobrekla: I think I would rather own slovenia
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: re:existing infrastructure << I think openbsd refuses to support multiple cpus << Come on they have a kernel that plays nice with multiprocessors
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah I must have been reading some old docs
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, maybe not that old. The thing is OpenBSD's multiprocessor handling is different than other people's really interesting subject.
decimation: do you have some dox?
BingoBoingo: I'm digging for some. Here's a discussion that hit on some of the points http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/State-of-multiprocessing-and-multithreading-in-OpenBSD-td99419.html
assbot: openbsd user - misc - State of multiprocessing and multithreading in OpenBSD
assbot: Absolute OpenBSD, 2nd Edition: UNIX for the Practical Paranoid - Michael W. Lucas - Google Books
danielpbarron: i have that book -- good stuff
decimation: heh thanks
peterl: Is it just my kid's school, or do all teachers use comic sans for communication with parents?
JuliaTourianski_: +ben_vulpes> ty darling
JuliaTourianski_: +ben_vulpes ty darling* my hand hurt, can't type
BingoBoingo: peterl: They do that to grab your attention
BingoBoingo: Because if you stare at their dispatch in disgust you might accidentally read it.
peterl: lol
bounce: that postulate fails hanlon's razor
BingoBoingo: bounce: There's too many razors to keep them all straight
ben_vulpes: incompetence, malice, who can ever tell.
ben_vulpes: one man's incompetence another's malice.
ben_vulpes: one man's greed another man's short against the shartup market.
ben_vulpes: etc etc etc etc
mod6: %p
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 95.29 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.77 TH/s
mod6: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 296415.54 in 888 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.22
mod6: %v
atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 198 Ask: 266 Last Price: 266 30d-Vol: 166k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 189
BingoBoingo: mod6: What does it take to add a pool to the bot?
mod6: BingoBoingo: not too much. you got one to add?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1566 @ 0.00074975 = 1.1741 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mod6: http://104.131.60.126:8559/static/ is the one chalbersma made
assbot: P2Pool
BingoBoingo: It prolly needs a name though
RagnarDanneskjol: he's going to publish the source for it shortly
BingoBoingo: so call it whatever humors you
RagnarDanneskjol: I can give it anyname you want
mod6: heh
mod6: ok
RagnarDanneskjol: mod6 - you don't need anything besides the IP addr, correct?
mod6: well... testing now. lemme see.
mod6: hrm. well it didn't pick anything up
mod6: < BitOTTer460> >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 142.94 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.26 TH/s [p2p Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
RagnarDanneskjol: i thought it might be a bit different config for p2pool
RagnarDanneskjol: I know someone who did it before - will ask
mod6: so, this interface looks just like CoinMiner.net, and I recall, before they had a JSON feed to parse, I had a lot of trouble scraping the HTML because the pool hashrate is buried in a span
mod6: so, if they ever get a JSON feed, let me know, will add right away.
RagnarDanneskjol: i will ask chris to set it up
mod6: cool. ok, let me know :]
RagnarDanneskjol: its on my server - I would give it a shit but will prolly fuk it up
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: strap finder came for you again!
asciilifeform: (stirrup finder ?)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah I saw one of their joins and upped the strapon finder
BingoBoingo: unsolicited, like their PM's
asciilifeform: ahahah.
kakobrekla: strup finder?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: aka ninjaspammer
kakobrekla: ;;translate slovenian english strup
gribble: Error: Google says: Response Status 403: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.
kakobrekla: nanotube any chance to get that fixed
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: forget english. струп ~= scab.
BingoBoingo: You know I have no idea why the spicy food fanatics stayed confined to capcaisin when Urushiol containing plants tend to offer a different yet interesting punch.
JuliaTourianski_: anyone know Toni Lane Casserly?
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Not personally
BingoBoingo: Is that the 90's band TLC?
BingoBoingo is curious if anyone here casts iron themselves, may be interested in a two hundred thousand quart pot.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: two hundred thousand quart pot << try #cannibalism ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not for biodiesel, for flipping upside down and using as a residence. The hexayurt thing is making me imagine.
BingoBoingo: I already have an adequate tent, but... what would be the nice opposite of that.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Do you know TLC?
JuliaTourianski_: THE LEARNING CHANNEL
JuliaTourianski_: no, who/what is tlc?
asciilifeform: thin-layer chromatography ?
asciilifeform doesn't know of any other tlc
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: No, that person you asked us about
nanotube: kakobrekla: google translate is now a pay-api... so gotta move to another api provider. and well... it just doesn't seem too urgent :)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That is a favorite tlc, I use it to tell when my car interior need cleaning.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo no never met her
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo just heard about her today
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Ah, wondering why you were asking. I'm trying to navigate her site nao.
BingoBoingo: Well, also as I research backyard furnace designs
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjCWdsrVcBM << herr wolfram renamed his best-selling gizmo for some reason.
assbot: "Inside the Wolfram Language" by Stephen Wolfram - YouTube
asciilifeform: good demo.
assbot: Stephen Wolfram, A New Kind of Science
asciilifeform: (me & mathematica - a few years of fun. described here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-2746 )
assbot: Loper OS » Thumbs Down for Clojure
BingoBoingo: Probably because Julia is the new trendy science language or something
asciilifeform: (comment thread)
asciilifeform: herr wolfram's megalomania did not happen in empty space. he has a total, watertight monopoly on something - just as steve jobs did.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo she was mentioned to me, im always curious about new girls in btc
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo because im sexist
asciilifeform: nobody seems to ask 'who're the new girls in high-temperature metallurgy'
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: I'm interested in everyone.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nobody seems to ask 'who're the new girls in high-temperature metallurgy' << Already filed under things I look for in a potential wife.
asciilifeform: or 'new girlz in deep sea oil & gas exploration'
asciilifeform: NGIDSOGE.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo i did admit i was sexist
asciilifeform: 'new gurlz in electron beam lithography'
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: The trick is being sexist for the right queries.
asciilifeform invites others to nominate additional fields we need 'new girls in...'
JuliaTourianski_: +asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GC4q5N0W4o
assbot: Carolyn Porco's Life At Saturn - YouTube
BingoBoingo: If you want to investigate who might be representing themselves as Bitcoin to SIliconvalley tards of course be sexist and focus on the girls.
asciilifeform: ^ not new girl
JuliaTourianski_: +asciilifeform I hate that word...need. liberal bullshit no?
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo oh are we having a serious convo?
JuliaTourianski_: +asciilifeform i know, but a cool one
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Of course, this is mega professional chan. You took danielpbarron's trollbait and made an earnest effort.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo hehe
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo to be fair, very young cute girls are more rarely seen in btc than dudes. so it naturally peaks my curiosity
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: danielpbarron is a rare bird here in that he is an orthodoxy attracted thinker that can stick around.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Of course. It is a practical reason to have focus.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo focus is going too far
BingoBoingo: I'm just amazed that TLC's writing sections... has images of fountain pens.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Nah, focus happens in degrees, otherwise eyes wouldn't be tenable
BingoBoingo: You'd have to choose between the coarse mechanism that produces melanin in skin and a scanning tunneling microscope otherwise
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7497 @ 0.00075088 = 5.6293 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do appreciate your endorsement earlier for the museum approach to IT
punkman: BingoBoingo: I already have an adequate tent, but... what would be the nice opposite of that. << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb1pdvvoVoQ
assbot: I Didn't Know That - Concrete Tent - YouTube
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i practice it.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know. Shame you HP RISC stuff wasn't more useful
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bulky.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, turning into a concern at the moment
BingoBoingo: Even fucking 68k macs are starting to seem bulky as I plan for contingencies.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unlike pa-risc, you can get 68k portables.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: WHY DO YOUR FUCKING BRAVES HAVE TO CHOKE SO LATE IN THE SEASON!!!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but considering two legs of contingency trip involve feet instead of tires...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have a 'powerbook duo' somewhere.
BingoBoingo: I might settle for atom netbook of particular vintage as a candidate for burining.
BingoBoingo: Makes centuries ROM disk seem like a trivial task by comparison though.
BingoBoingo: On a related note, wasn't the Palm V a nifty piece of harware?
asciilifeform: was, yes.
BingoBoingo: Shame about being the harbringer of iPod solder you own batteries
asciilifeform: said who? there was a plug inside.
asciilifeform: (even in apple's machines, afaik)
BingoBoingo: Well... people who bought a bunch for $7
BingoBoingo: Sure, replacement of batteries is possible without soldering and heating batteries, but... I worry about the social engineering threat where nifty microcomputer gets defamed as a bomb by homo retardus
BingoBoingo: !up nezZario
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski: So in what context did you learn of this new girl? I'm a trained libraian
asciilifeform: plenty of damning things can be said about apple products that are... actually true.
asciilifeform: 'soldered batteries' isn't one.
decimation: I use asus atom netbok for portability; cheap & reliable
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently 'soldered batteries' were a favorite of HP to force you to send back your expensive test gear for service.
assbot: iPod Touch 3rd Generation Battery Replacement - iFixit
TheNewDeal: what os you rocking decimation?
decimation: arch linux
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It wasn't consistently one
asciilifeform: aha there it is!
asciilifeform: soldered battery.
TheNewDeal: does that feature a dependency hell?
decimation: I would consider migrating to openbsd, but I'm not sure it would have a friendly user interface
asciilifeform: well, not really soldered battery though.
asciilifeform: just cable.
asciilifeform: as pictured, even a kid can safely swap this one.
decimation: they have a variant of 'ports', they seem to actively manage dependencies pretty well
decimation: I would recommend arch linux for learning more about linux
decimation: although they jumped on the systemd bandwagon
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well in those scenarios my favored fix is scotch tape+conductor.
JuliaTourianski: +BingoBoingo hhaha just someone said to me she's "penetrating the btc scene" so I figured I should probably know of her if that's the case
TheNewDeal: is that at all similar to android init.d?
decimation: heh. it's a replacement actually, and not everyone is a fan
BingoBoingo: decimation> I would consider migrating to openbsd, but I'm not sure it would have a friendly user interface << Can be done, just worry about drivers first.
decimation: replacing init scripts that have been inherited from the early unix days with aimless binaries
TheNewDeal: my knowledge of daemons stops as Warcraft 1
asciilifeform: jumped on the systemd bandwagon << and you're using this on your own free will ?
decimation: the most annoying part to me is getting rid of a text syslog
BingoBoingo: <decimation> although they jumped on the systemd bandwagon << Alpine Linux still defaults to clean
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah too lazy to switch off
decimation: asciilifeform: did you see this site: http://boycottsystemd.org/
assbot: boycott systemd
BingoBoingo: decimation: Solution might be to be lazier to avoid the systemd update???
asciilifeform: coming next: boycottshitpizza.org
asciilifeform: don't eat at coprophagic restaurants!
decimation: hehe yeah. when the update mechanism begs you to upgrade, the seduction is hard to avoid
asciilifeform: presence of such a mechanism is a very loud bell that you were gravely mistaken to go there at all.
decimation: "Contribute to and use distros like Slackware, CRUX, Funtoo, and Gentoo that follow traditional Unix paradigms."
asciilifeform: be glad for the bell.
asciilifeform: it tells you to: run.
BingoBoingo: decimation: What happens when you are stuck at OS 7.5.1
decimation: yeah, for instance apparently freenode was hacked
BingoBoingo: What happens when Chicago becomes Charcoal in OS 8?
decimation: the fact that our identification mechanism depends very little on freenode security shows a strong point
decimation: that's a bell too
decimation: BingoBoingo: people who upgrade macs are already very familiar with this hell
decimation: apple is famous for deprecating any feature that an advanced user would find useful
BingoBoingo: decimation: True Macs have only 1 upgrade, OS??? to A/UX
BingoBoingo: Because real macs don't run OS 8 or have PPC
decimation: actually I was sad when apple capitulated to wintel
BingoBoingo: A True Mac is just a Giant TI-89
BingoBoingo: decimation: True story Bought my first cumputer around 2000
decimation: my objection to macos 9 and earlier wasn't that it was a terrible user experience, it was mainly its inability to gracefully handle errors
BingoBoingo: was roughly $10
decimation: more often then not it would just lock & reboot randomly
BingoBoingo: OS 7 handles errors liek an angel
BingoBoingo: The surviving Mac Classic still boots.
decimation: perhaps the macs I had in high school were shit
decimation: I would agree that mac classic i suprisingly usable
BingoBoingo: On its original 40 MB hard drive
BingoBoingo: Only problem with the classic is the SE/30 already existed
decimation: In retrospect, apple should have gotten on the bsd/nextstep bandwagon around '90 or so
BingoBoingo: And kill BSD as it was about to be Free?
asciilifeform: decimation: apple as traditionally understood - does not exist now.
BingoBoingo: History's accidents are where it gets beautiful.
asciilifeform: decimation: 'next' burned it, salted the earth where it stood, and renamed self 'apple'.
decimation: yeah that's a good point, I guess the bsd lawsuit didn't end until '94
decimation: asciilifeform: next stuff was actually pretty neat
BingoBoingo: There's a Theo interview with a lot of that history
asciilifeform: decimation: apple was also, occasionally, pretty neat.
BingoBoingo: Sun was neat too, if only they had kneepads and made a consumer machine
decimation: my perception is that sun died when 'wintel' was adopted by the baby boomers
decimation: some time in the late 90's even management started using windows
decimation: that, and the cpu vendors used by sun just didn't keep up with intel performance
BingoBoingo: Well Sun probably died when the started handing out Solaris install media to fuckers like me who bought their stock at $3.60
BingoBoingo: And the T-SHirts...
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski: Have you seen this girl's twitter? https://twitter.com/tonilanec
assbot: Toni Lane Casserly (tonilanec) | Twitter
decimation: my understanding is that sun never made much money on the os
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00074972 = 14.2447 BTC [-]
decimation: 'advisor of crypto companies'?
BingoBoingo: decimation: And yet they could have
BingoBoingo: decimation: Sure, like animals in crypto zoos
Dimsler: lol
hanbot: <thestringpuller> I want to see the look on bfl_josh's face. << ever see a face buried in sand?
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski is still around?
JuliaTourianski: +Dimsler yes sir
JuliaTourianski: +BingoBoingo ye..lol i have
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> <thestringpuller> I want to see the look on bfl_josh's face. << ever see a face buried in sand? << In Josh's case that has to be glass by now
JuliaTourianski: +BingoBoingo like i said, very young :)
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski, you get my pm?
hanbot: BingoBoingo make a decent paperweight.
JuliaTourianski: +Dimsler no
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Shame he's on the wrong side of Missouri to do some decent leaded crystal. Where is fucking Quantrill to burn Kansas* when you need him
hanbot: well, in a different kind of dirt
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski> +BingoBoingo like i said, very young :) << Well you can ascribe judgements and direct people to more interesting aspects of things. Pad uncertain declatory claims appropriately and gnerally work on mastering the sort of IRC ettiquette where you can have 25 conversations at the same time./
BingoBoingo: hanbot: And this is what makes the Middle west Truly Amazing. In Missouri you get lead, Illinois sulfur with the occasional bit of coal, In Iowa you get all the Uranium
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
BingoBoingo: The part where in Iowa it takes something other than a study of the water table to determine if a basement is safe... Fuck we are so deep into the future.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 434.71, Best ask: 435.92, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 435.88, 24 hour volume: 27550.96246059, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 452.67, 24 hour vwap: 428.030196886
BingoBoingo: Oh, where's the limited rally nao???
decimation: BingoBoingo: it's possible a little bit of radiation is good for you, depending on who you ask
BingoBoingo: decimation: Sure, but suffocation on heavy ass radon is good for noone
decimation: yeah probably not
BingoBoingo: A lot of limitations on people in urnanium mining are not radiation concerns alone, but also suffocation concerns.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4087 @ 0.00074972 = 3.0641 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Fuck Chiraq
assbot: Willkommen bei Twitter - Anmelden oder Registrieren
assbot: Cubs win 4-3 on Castillo walk-off single in the 10th. Magic Number stays at 4
BingoBoingo: !up mp_colonist
BingoBoingo: How does it feel to land?
assbot: Dan Weinreb’s blog » Blog Archive » Rebuttal to Stallman’s Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00074972 = 18.743 BTC [-]
decimation: it's pretty clear that stallman was a beta whiner 30 years ago too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00075135 = 3.8319 BTC [+]
mp_colonist: not all that different BingoBoingo. choppy sea, then choppy land!
BingoBoingo: Well if he wasn't he's be in the MLK Jr situation of having 30 heirs.
mp_colonist: decimation, ya know i think we lolled about this one maybe a year or so ago
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: I've heard passenger travel on cargo ships might be a thing. Know any decent internet write ups?
mp_colonist: no. most cargo ships have a few passenger spots if you can eat crew grub
mp_colonist: course the cheapest way is to just sign up as crew for a voyage.
mp_colonist: that way you actually get paid to travel
decimation: my understanding is that many cargo ships have excellent grub
decimation: because it's the only upside of your day on ship
mp_colonist: hit and miss from what i hear
BingoBoingo: It's just the darien sounds a lot like the classic design of a fish trap... And I ate the things in America Grad students can afford to eat.
hanbot: just don't end up in chittagong
mp_colonist: what's in chickatadong ?
hanbot: dead cargo ships
assbot: Why is food onboard cargo ships generally poor?
decimation: "On one of the ships I was on (I won't mention nationality but they're rather fond of beetroot) we didn't have any fruit or vegetables at all, and I ended up requiring surgery abroad due to lack of fibre in my diet. There was hardly any meat either, so not enough protein or fats in the diet either. Unsurprisingly there wasn't a lack of vodka that came with the stores so it wasn't about a low budget. "
mp_colonist: hey what was that film with the zoo keeper that travels on a cargo ship with family ?
hanbot: life of pi?
mp_colonist: decimation, sounds like ship ho trying to pass broken butt on diet.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> "On one of the ships I was on (I won't mention nationality but they're rather fond of beetroot) we didn't have any fruit or vegetables at all, and I ended up requiring surgery abroad due to lack of fibre in my diet. There was hardly any meat either, so not enough protein or fats in the diet either. Unsurprisingly there wasn't a lack of vodka that came with the stores so it wasn't about a low budget. " << Virtue of Alc
BingoBoingo: oholism, the unrecycleale bile will keep your turds moving.
decimation: yeah, plus probably ate no beets
decimation: I imagine the food quality depends on the faceless cheapness of the corp. who owns the ship
mp_colonist: decimation, improbable, coinsidering what the crew costs
mp_colonist: i imagine mostly depends on the cook
decimation: heh yeah that's probably true, he probably selects the food
BingoBoingo also considering apartment sized boats
mp_colonist: ben_vulpes well nothing's hard once you've put the time into it.
mp_colonist: kakobrekla: alibaba is supposedly worth as much as all the properties in slovenia. << 1. list slovenia on alibaba for price of 1 alibaba ; 2. have alibaba buy slovenia. 3. slovenia now worth two slovenias.
mp_colonist: INFINITE PROFIT
asciilifeform: arse-mouth system!
asciilifeform: phree energy111!11
mp_colonist: this explains both why alibaba is worth slovenia
mp_colonist: and why slovenia is worth alibaba
decimation: plus teh chinese would sell more bitcoin to bid up slovenibaba
mp_colonist: i suppose this is a good bezzle unit. whatscrap sold for .15 alibabas
mp_colonist: decimation, iBaba!
BingoBoingo: Wow, Disposable pick up truck + fuel plus other side of the darien pick up truck looks cheaper than aeroplane
BingoBoingo: Or did the euro sink that much
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 337.114076, Best ask: 337.930766, Bid-ask spread: 0.81669, Last trade: 337.946322, 24 hour volume: 27696.23667592, 24 hour low: 306.14208, 24 hour high: 352.086726, 24 hour vwap: 332.954179809
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, http://i.imgur.com/TpFJRiG.gif << mouse now has a counterparty.
decimation: BingoBoingo: do you want to be kidnapped by random rebel group?
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: lol! what sort of turtle is this.
mp_colonist: an american turtle.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Does random rebel group really want to capture and keep me or capture and release...
mp_colonist: BingoBoingo, actually colombian rebels are mostly women.
decimation: depends if they think they lever some bezzlars from someone for your hide
mp_colonist: think, being taken by an armed amazon!
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: I know. That's... why it is more their worry than mine.
mp_colonist: JuliaTourianski_:
mp_colonist: +ben_vulpes no idea how that happened. noobicle. << shit, vulpes. did you just get called by a girl ?!
mp_colonist: decimation: mp_sails: are you using imarsat? << no idea, not my boat, i just sailed there.
mats_cd03: so vupen now has an escape from host for virtualbox
mats_cd03 coughs
mp_colonist: mats_cd03, what, ANY ?
assbot: VUPEN Vulnerability Research Blog - Advanced Exploitation of VirtualBox 3D Acceleration VM Escape Vulnerability / Exploit (CVE-2014-0983)
asciilifeform: incidentally, i assume everyone knows what vupen sells.
asciilifeform: so, presumably this one is past 'sell by' freshness date.
BingoBoingo hopes it surprises everyone when I travel to BA by puerto de tele
mats_cd03: i did not notice staleness
mats_cd03: slow on the up, this one.
asciilifeform: staleness in the sense that whatever profit to be made, was made.
asciilifeform: then - handed out for free to gawkers.
asciilifeform: or - no one bid (who runs virtualbox?)
decimation: yeah I suspect there are few juicy virtualbox-using targets
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