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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00078803 = 3.2309 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Also you may be comforted to know KOL uses NGINX instead of dead Injuns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15052 @ 0.00078708 = 11.8471 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, sorry about that i got distracted with something
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: It's cool prolly nothing to bet on today seems like I'm totes ascending later
danielpbarron: heh, idk if I want to bet on that
danielpbarron: I've never been that into optimizing ascention stuff; my main account has never done it since before it was even an option
BingoBoingo: Well it would only be for the second time since you sold me meat, both on challenge paths
danielpbarron: so I don't really know what the odds would be
BingoBoingo: Eh, not so hard, you kill the naughty sourceress
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud i KNEW! it was some odd idiosybncratic thing
mircea_popescu: !up rogerthedoger
mircea_popescu: and now that ben_vulpes delivered the goods, the quest is on :
mircea_popescu: what string and what hash has produced the leading d49250d4 ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00078708 = 5.1947 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: have you never ascended before?
danielpbarron: I have with another account; but yeah my original account has never done it, and I even have the trophy I got for logging in the day ascention rolled out
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Wait you are that old and never wanted to inherit another class's skills?
[]bot: Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, at first I wanted to give it time to let others spade it out; eventually I decided I'd go for the wow factor of having a really old account that never ascended; plus I was mostly interested with the Mall, which is easier to use if you aren't focused on optimizing runs
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Ah, I made I guess... the mistake of doing some hardcore ascensions, but... I'm enjoying these new challenge paths
xanthyos: i ascended twice, having realized that i only felt comfortable in my original saucery
BingoBoingo: I mean not ascending has advantages... You're always ready for crimbo...
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Turtle Taming for lyfe bitch
xanthyos: BingoBoingo: what's your kol account name?
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Atruk
xanthyos: are you the guy who gave danielpbarron btc for meat?
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Yes
xanthyos: heheh
xanthyos: through the Mr. A conversion tool
BingoBoingo: I kinda hoped he'd close his XCP thing, but... He didn't
xanthyos: the jick'll never find out
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Jick can jickle my dick
xanthyos: the jitz'll never know, mcfly
xanthyos: Account Created:October 17, 2006
xanthyos: not bad
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Benevolent neglect
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: If you want some Crimborg shit though...
xanthyos: all i want is adventures
xanthyos: i do nothing but study at canada school
xanthyos: for a decade
xanthyos: Advancement:
xanthyos: You must gain 315 Mysticality to advance to level 202.
danielpbarron collects rat appendices
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You want a whole time outfit?
BingoBoingo: http://gawker.com/truvada-its-time-to-take-the-fucking-pill-1612386701
assbot: Truvada: It's Time To Take the Fucking Pill
xanthyos: all iwant is meat, adventures, or adventure-generating foods
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: I'd part with a whole time outfit for the right price
xanthyos: i only seek mysticality
BingoBoingo: ~15 adv/day for helmet weapon and pants
BingoBoingo: Or ~12
BingoBoingo: WHo knows
xanthyos: SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET!
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: I also have a sneaky pete's jacket I won't need much longer
BingoBoingo: +4 adv/day
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.00099999 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.101 BTC. Current weight: 99,965.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so what is this, random gawker dude got his payola ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looks like it. He was for the longest time anti gay pill. Now he is pro gay pill
dub: he's mostly just retarded
dub: how the fuck this makes into a weblogsite I've heard of escapes
BingoBoingo: Space Agent UD 4126
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12849 @ 0.00078708 = 10.1132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00078708 = 7.7921 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: OMG sick and not sick ===== If you are on Truvada, you're medicating yourself (hopefully) every day, like someone with HIV. You're being closely monitored by your doctor with tests every three months to make sure you're negative and that your body is functioning properly, like someone with HIV. The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should.
dub: shitload more people are on permanent omeprazole scrips
BingoBoingo: No one died from lack of omeprazole
dub: which is prozac for your gut
dub: in that in has no benefit that cannot be found naturally
dub: it*
BingoBoingo: dub: Prozac is totally prozac for your gut, there is no organ in which prozac is moar active
dub: oh hey its on the World Health Orgs List of Really Neat Drugs That We Are Paid To Put In Our List
dub: my meaning is prozac et al is usually prescribed when the doctor cbf and isnt a real doctor
dub: same deal
dub: s/usually//
BingoBoingo: Well...
BingoBoingo: !up tjader
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00078708 = 7.2411 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00078673 = 18.2915 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00078629 = 5.7006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15529 @ 0.00078629 = 12.2103 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up HeySteve
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron turns out was able to ascend
gribble: The operation succeeded.
HeySteve: thanks BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: You are welcome HeySteve
HeySteve: my connection is a yo-yo again so not worth the trouble to auth
BingoBoingo: Ah
BingoBoingo: Well, from joins and parts doesn't look near as bad as before
HeySteve: dunno if you caught it in the logs, but I'm working on a new kind of gambling
BingoBoingo: Cool
HeySteve: nah it's more stable and I took off the autojoin
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i was expecting a lot more obvious drunkedness tbh. but sober ? maybe you should write a book. << book? what book. "hey. tits? they're worth 0.1 btc now, which i'll hold for you indefinitely. let's tits. tits everyone? great."
BingoBoingo: Is your new gambling comparable to anything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00078803 = 2.9945 BTC [+]
HeySteve: it's like if you could gamble on a choose your own adventure story
HeySteve: ben_vulpes liked the babes
ben_vulpes: why not actually play btc the game though, HeySteve ?
ben_vulpes: they're great babes.
HeySteve: btc the game?
ben_vulpes: the game wherein one acquires btc
ben_vulpes: fuck all muhmorpergers
HeySteve: sure I've earned and bought my share
HeySteve: though more is always welcome
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Ah, that
ben_vulpes is off again
BingoBoingo: My favorite way to read those books in the past was page by page
HeySteve: heh doing it wrong
BingoBoingo: Nah it is a test of memory
BingoBoingo: Can you follow all paths at the same time
HeySteve: hmm training your memory for the card table perhaps?
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Or life in general
HeySteve: my grandparents could recall all the cards played in a game of bridge. they'd review it afterwards, my grandfather criticizing granny's play
HeySteve: my memory's good but not nearly that good
Vexual: although, granny can't remember whose carkeys she chose
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Your grandparents still do key parties?
HeySteve: heh doubt that ever happened, they were real godly folk
ben_vulpes: Vexual: come on baby don't leave me hanging
ben_vulpes: oh well. anuvva time i guess.
BingoBoingo: Hello DreadKnight
DreadKnight: heya BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: How have things been?
BingoBoingo: since... a few hours ago?
DreadKnight: ben_vulpes, you nickname? not fond of MMORPGs as well, even got a bit insulted you thought I was making one, lol
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, doing a bit of coding overall, what are you up to?
HeySteve: someone should make a Terry Pratchett game and call it Ankh-MMORPG
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Just getting ready for the month to end
HeySteve: worth it just for that
BingoBoingo: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021718 B (Total: 474.94 B). Delta: -0.34 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15339 @ 0.00078803 = 12.0876 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, well you can just sit back and relax for time to pass, no need to do anything special; unless you listed something on MPEx xD
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Well, I market make ATC for MPIF
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, hmm
Vexual: whats happening won the atc scene?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Well, WoL uses it
Vexual: yes, i haven't tried it get, i felt woozy last time i looked
BingoBoingo: I'll try to get the statement for how it was traded out on the 1st
DreadKnight: average total costs for mircea popescu investment fund, BingoBoingo ?
HeySteve: I saw WoL is influenced by the blockchain, how does that work?
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: What do you mean by average total costs?
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, not sure what ATC stands for otherwise
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: WoL actions happen as a result of blockchain events
Vexual: is there, like a cool workspace with an old streetfighter machine so I can remeber all my old combos while depositing?
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Altcoin, capitalized
DreadKnight: gotcha
BingoBoingo: Vexual: If only
HeySteve: BingoBoingo, I like that idea. want to use the blockchain myself as a kind of public dice roll
BingoBoingo: So... the peace corps is evacuating west Africa over Ebola
Vexual: whatcu mean evacuating, sucka?
Vexual: fat arse= plane?
Vexual: coz that sounds counterproductive
DreadKnight: Mr. T is in the house.
Vexual: oh
HeySteve: as long as that shit doesn't spread to south africa
DreadKnight: found it interesting that Mark Shuttleworth got rich in Africa
BingoBoingo: Vexual: I mean fleeing because they don't want Ebola since apparently white people get it nao
BingoBoingo: White Africans are everything wrong with Humanity
HeySteve: yeah shuttleworth invented some kinda certificate authority... thawt
DreadKnight: *The Human Stain movie*
BingoBoingo: Well, White Africans, Ohio, and Wrigleyville
Vexual: fluffypony is cool
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: thanks
HeySteve: hey fluffypony
fluffypony: hey HeySteve
DreadKnight: always profitable to establish yourself as "the shit" and make others strive and pay for your recognition
DreadKnight: *cough* cisco *cough*
DreadKnight: HeySteve, I knew it had something to do with hardware, but that certificate made the real money?
DreadKnight: good to know
HeySteve: I think so, yeah. not sure why Web of Trust hasn't been more widely adopted over CAs
HeySteve: guess key parties aren't cool or something
DreadKnight: :D
DreadKnight: it's too "peer to peer"
DreadKnight: CAs tend to me more iconic and profitable, meaning more marketing done as well to brainwash people
DreadKnight: CAs are older concept in the industry, better rooted
HeySteve: hmm probably but WoT goes back to early days of PGP
BingoBoingo: Well, a CA is pretty much the definition of a pre-approved stooge
HeySteve: yeah it's another area ripe for blockchain monopoly busting (probably)
DreadKnight: ;;reputation DreadKnight
gribble: Error: "reputation" is not a valid command.
DreadKnight: !s reputation
assbot: 296 results for 'reputation' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=reputation
Vexual: !s blacklist
assbot: 42 results for 'blacklist' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=blacklist
HeySteve: use ;;gettrust
Vexual: where the answer is ruianable
DreadKnight: thanks HeySteve
DreadKnight: ran through the website
Vexual: Hi BB, How have things been?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Not too bad
cazalla: Vexual, rainbow edition at the pub? fight me cunt
Vexual: you're on chappie
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 250 @ 0.00399754 = 0.9994 BTC [+] {4}
trixisowned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO2PEgU6Jl8&list=UUGUXr4b1Q-JGGqTC5JDOVwA#t=468
assbot: Cooking With Hoarders: How to wake up in the morning Part 2 - YouTube
punkman: paypal: "o hai we removed your bank account because" me: "because what?" paypal: "loldunno, not enough IBAN maybe" me: "can't add new bank" paypal: "try again in next 4 hours, I enables u" me: "YOUR SHIT NO WORK" paypal: "lolsorry, send bank statements to try again"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00078739 = 6.8897 BTC [-]
BigBitz: punkman LOL
punkman: I'm going with "FUCK YOU, ONLINE BANKING NO PAPER" but I don't think it's gonna work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00078705 = 1.1806 BTC [-]
punkman: maybe they'll take screenshot of bank account?
BigBitz: Hilarious.
BigBitz: can you download your statementS? My bank lets me do that.
punkman: sure I can print all kinds of bank website
punkman: this nonsense gives me heartburn every time
punkman: oh and this is like 1 reply per day, it's gonna take a while
BigBitz: Lame...
punkman: ;;rate paypal -10 fuuuuuuuu
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user paypal has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00078705 = 6.6112 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.0144 = 0.504 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15592 @ 0.00078861 = 12.296 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29989851 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8061 @ 0.00079192 = 6.3837 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00079297 = 18.7934 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00079353 = 0.9919 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: ack! logz
thickasthieves: <+ben_vulpes> riding my bike all over town (what american child can ride a bike around their town?!) /// more than would like to admit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00079113 = 3.7974 BTC [-]
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> reddit is not a race. /// it's a picture of the finish line
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 570.99, Best ask: 573.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 570.97, 24 hour volume: 10596.14928038, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 579.76, 24 hour vwap: 567.332041638
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 314.59764223 * 567.332041638
gribble: 178481.322661
mircea_popescu: o look, teh berkshire bet is on again.
thickasthieves: <+punkman> ;;rate paypal -10 fuuuuuuuu \\\ :)
thickasthieves: ;;rate mpex 5
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
thickasthieves: darn
mircea_popescu: did it steal your moneyz punkman ?
mircea_popescu: tit for t_a_t ?
t_a_t: https://medium.com/@TomOnBTC/pissed-about-bitcoin-prices-some-of-the-blame-falls-on-the-bitcoin-foundation-bae91f981d1
assbot: Pissed about Bitcoin Prices? Some of the blame falls on the Bitcoin Foundation. Medium
t_a_t: "14 days Matonis. 14 days Foundation. Come clean with what your executive directors are really doing in “off hours” or we will do it for you."
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "executive director!!1"
chetty: <t_a_t> "14 days Matonis. 14 days Foundation. Come clean with what your executive directors// plural??
t_a_t: "You see, what Matonis doesn’t want anyone to know is that while he is saying to expect smoother trading Exante has been in a non-stop dumping of Bitcoin via Bermuda."
t_a_t: ;;later tell ben_vulpes "<< has won over //" You can't cramp my style.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: t_a_t so why is that supposed to be a problem again ?
t_a_t: my summary understanding:
t_a_t: guy is somehow involved in the paperwork for TBF's euro applications or such, thus accessed some rare financial and ownership data. To him, the nature and/or timing of this data is in direct conflict with public statements by matonis and/or the guy's own law of reddit moral code. The jury is out.
mircea_popescu: sounds about right.
punkman: mircea_popescu: not yet but fuck them anyway
mircea_popescu: "The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should." what the fuck is wrong with these idiots. why exactly SHOULD the "cultural divide" between the failed and the successful "erode" ?
mircea_popescu: nm, just answered my own q.
t_a_t: i still cant find TBF in Guidestar, fwiw
t_a_t: lol: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/2012-990EZ-IRS-Bitcoin-Foundation-.pdf
assbot: Page not found | The Bitcoin Foundation
mircea_popescu: lol k
chetty: <mircea_popescu> "The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should." what the fuck is wrong with these idiots. why exactly SHOULD the "cultural divide" between the failed and the successful "erode" ?// so we cna get to the great sameness
mircea_popescu: why would i want to be the same with some hiv positive faggot ?
t_a_t: also https://bitcoinfoundation.org/static/2014/05/Bitcoin-2013-990-PDC.pdf
assbot: Page not found | The Bitcoin Foundation
mircea_popescu: o no wait, what i want doesn't matter, HE wants to be the same with me, and that's the controlling factor ?
chetty: twas a joke ...
mircea_popescu: cute. i hope he gets raped too.
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: has HIV?
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud hm ?
The20YearIRCloud: i'm confused
mircea_popescu: some weird discussion burried in the logs.
chetty: the great sameness= death
mircea_popescu: but no, i don't have any vd, and never had. i just fuck the sluts & whores, other people are getting teh vds.
mircea_popescu: and since we be on teh topic, http://38.media.tumblr.com/f6fb31ffba3d2db7a9989a5995f4ba16/tumblr_mh5321LWzs1qjhn09o1_400.gif
t_a_t: plz halp gais https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/494828493478567936
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.27440001 = 4.116 BTC [-] {4}
t_a_t: i wonder if i saved the email for that accounting girl
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: book? what book. || "The Secret Redditors Hate : How I Got My Wife And Her BFF To Go Naked On The Internet For Fun And Profit Using Only Tools Avaialble in Any Kitchen In Twenty Minutes For Dummies. Bulleted List THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT BELIEVE."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9571 @ 0.00079113 = 7.5719 BTC [-]
t_a_t: Using This Weird Funny Trick
mircea_popescu: nono, she's the trick.
mircea_popescu: t_a_t glwt lol.
jurov: BF Uses This Weird Funny Trick That Bitcoiners Hate
fluffypony: scammingz?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony well, bitcoin foundation.
fluffypony: heh
fluffypony: I wonder why they don't just announce scrypt ASICs and become founding members of the Dogecoin Foundation
jurov: cuz even dogers don't want them
mircea_popescu: incredible the lengths to which they go to hide vessenes's multiple fraudulet activities from teh general public.
mircea_popescu: aactually... not so incredible i guess.
t_a_t: found the lady jodie@bitcoinfoundation.org
mircea_popescu: Vexual:
mircea_popescu: although, granny can't remember whose carkeys she chose << lmao
mircea_popescu: t_a_t i thought she quit.
mircea_popescu: !uo ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: !up ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: thx
ThickAsThieves: "Previously, Jodie was Chief Financial Officer for CoinLab"
ThickAsThieves: so much for her being my inside gal
ThickAsThieves: she quit?
mircea_popescu: HeySteve: I think so, yeah. not sure why Web of Trust hasn't been more widely adopted over CAs << because CAs come with master keys.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i'm not keeping too close tabs on the whole debacle.
mircea_popescu: !up Ginux
mircea_popescu: buncha quitters
mircea_popescu: !up so
mircea_popescu: sooo... argentina defaults, dollar price unaffected.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate genericpersona -10 Random muppet with unwarranted political aspirations.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user genericpersona has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen pigeons
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <pigeons> so far that seems accurate
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcoin4.bitcoinfoundation.org/static/2014/05/Bitcoin-2013-990-PDC.pdf
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2012-990EZ-IRS-Bitcoin-Foundation-.pdf
ThickAsThieves: Gavin got paid $210k
ThickAsThieves: Linday Holland, Assistant Director: $160k
ThickAsThieves: Lindsay*
mircea_popescu: nah they didn't.
mircea_popescu: just, 2013, bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: !up ThickAsThieves
The20YearIRCloud: tat can't self voice?
ThickAsThieves: i can, just blinked and need to reauth
ThickAsThieves: page 34 has a tidbit
ThickAsThieves: $31250 paid to The Hole of Roy LLC
ThickAsThieves: consulting services by Matonis to TBF
ThickAsThieves: "Bitcoin Vietnam's 'digital gold' as faith in dong falls"
mircea_popescu: dong eh ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, the good part isn't the 1.5mn they got and spent, the good part is the final assets, 15btc.
ThickAsThieves: thats not right
ThickAsThieves: it says like $4m in btc
ThickAsThieves: Dec 31 prcied
ThickAsThieves: priced*
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves beginning 2013 i mean.
ThickAsThieves: ah
ThickAsThieves: $4512316 it says for end
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now maybe my accounting's unfit for a goose, but how exactly do you go from 100k in assets to 4.5mn in assets when your net exercise is like 100k ?
mircea_popescu: wait my bad. the revenue is actually 800k, expenses 1.4mn.
ThickAsThieves: they didnt claim the btc in 2012 or someshit
mircea_popescu: notably, they got 70k in donations and 10x that from the "be a member and scam people" swindle.
ThickAsThieves: i still dont have my free membership
ThickAsThieves: so they have about 6000btc
mircea_popescu: end of 2013 ?
ThickAsThieves: yeah
ThickAsThieves: but they did mention same amount in Amsterdam
ThickAsThieves: roughly
ThickAsThieves: Jodie also said they only spend when they need cash
ThickAsThieves: sell*
ThickAsThieves: i'm seeing now how so not anonymous btc will be in the US
ThickAsThieves: these tax forms obv needs wallet addresses
ThickAsThieves: we're the last anonymous generation methinks
mircea_popescu: no see, still doesn't work. 2013-01-25 00:00:0017.1517.7216.1217.49 so 100k dollars in january 2013 means
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 97738 / 17.09
gribble: 5719.01696899
mircea_popescu: 5.7k start of exercise.
mircea_popescu: 2013-12-31 00:00:00736.517397097327919.3199999999945763630.729999996727.7899999999995
ThickAsThieves: but we dont know when they sold coins
ThickAsThieves: it's pointless to audit i think
mircea_popescu: 4703264 / 727.79
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 4703264 / 727.79
gribble: 6462.39162396
mircea_popescu: 735890/(6462.39162396 - 5719.01696899)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 735890/(6462.39162396 - 5719.01696899)
gribble: 989.931517143
mircea_popescu: so basically they started with 5.7k, ended with 6.4k and got a total of 700 btc donated counted at an average of 900, so most of them early 2013.
ThickAsThieves: sounds plausible
mircea_popescu: this is quite well fitting with the history, they were only actually declared persona non grata later on.
ThickAsThieves: however, i'm skeptical all they got was 6k
ThickAsThieves: IPOs got way more than that on that timeline
mircea_popescu: why ?
ThickAsThieves: surely every ass throwin btc around threw some at TBF
mircea_popescu: ipos CLAIM more than that, because ipos don't file for taxes, typically.
ThickAsThieves: need wallet addy
ThickAsThieves: i also wonder about liquidity tricks
mircea_popescu: they posted a 77k investment income, which is probably a wrong statement,
mircea_popescu: it includes what they THINK they made daytrading,
mircea_popescu: whereas it should include that massive 4mn they got from btc
ThickAsThieves: say TBF sells 500btc at $200, but then price falls. Matonis sells 500btc for $150 and says the first set were his and second set was TBF
ThickAsThieves: just bs like that
mircea_popescu: what the fuck must this moss adams thing be thinking to publish unbalanced tax returns is beyond the mind's boggle.
ThickAsThieves: to what end though, they dont pay taxes
ThickAsThieves: so invetsment income being correcter does what
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know if matonis wishes to donate $50 to the foundation he doesn't have to go to all this complex trouble. or you mean it the other way around
ThickAsThieves: i mean the scammy side
ThickAsThieves: arbiter of coins and trades can shuffle to his liking
mircea_popescu: well this has been the objection since day one, vessenes is just using it as a piggybank
mircea_popescu: doubt matonis' doing much with that.
ThickAsThieves: would it be appropriate to add measures to an0?
ThickAsThieves: like must report bitcoin holding addresses
ThickAsThieves: essentially promote transparency where available
ThickAsThieves: or maybe have anNP
mircea_popescu: an0 already reports that neh ?
ThickAsThieves: for nonprofits
ThickAsThieves: all tx must be reported
ThickAsThieves: with notes
ThickAsThieves: i didnt recall an0 sharing bitcoin addy
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.36, Best ask: 583.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 583.4, 24 hour volume: 10950.96660472, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 583.5, 24 hour vwap: 568.109554429
mircea_popescu: oh you mean the addy specifically.
mircea_popescu: meh, that was on the plate, but eventually fell off. for one thing, addresses change, for the other some people are worried (sensibly or no) that it exposes them to various vulnerabilities.
ThickAsThieves: for personal wallets i def agree
ThickAsThieves: for nonprofits, much less so
ThickAsThieves: for businesses, probly has competition issues and other privacy problems
ThickAsThieves: for nonprofits, donors may not want their addy connected
ThickAsThieves: meh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what string and what hash has produced the leading d49250d4 << anybody solved this puzzle ?
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves moreover, bitcoin is supposed to be anon.
BigBitz: asciilifeform what is that from?
mircea_popescu: as a general principle supporting any deanonimization measures is uncanonical.
ThickAsThieves: it's the current knot in my brain lately, whether this phenomenon is actually the one that kills anonymity
mircea_popescu: BigBitz the earlier pic with the two girls' bits.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves which phenomenon ?
BigBitz: didn't see the pic :(
ThickAsThieves: the aspects of bitcoin and decentralized networks that we all currently associae with anonymity
ThickAsThieves: the public ledger
mircea_popescu: !s d49250d4
assbot: 2 results for 'd49250d4' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=d49250d4
ThickAsThieves: the development that we can track everything reliably now
mircea_popescu: i musta been asleep for that development.
BigBitz: 'realibly' is debatable.
ThickAsThieves: referring to the same la serenissima topic from before
ThickAsThieves: where you can make a network that knows permanent record of all tx, and can now add identity network
ThickAsThieves: then once you do, it gains use, then becomes requirement
ThickAsThieves: anonymity my ass! future dood yells
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but the requirement for you to have a face in the forum does not equate to a requirement for you to have a face in the treasury
mircea_popescu: this cleavage is essential.
ThickAsThieves: i'mn concerned they are entangled or will become so
ThickAsThieves: what if everyone really did require WoT for any trust situation
mircea_popescu: what then ?
ThickAsThieves: then what's anonymity?
mircea_popescu: anonymity is generally a curse.
ThickAsThieves: also part of my question
mircea_popescu: !up ADutchGamer
ThickAsThieves: why do we want anonymity at all
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's important in some places. specifically, money handling.
mircea_popescu: it's not even useful in social interractions.
ThickAsThieves: maybe, maybe not
ThickAsThieves: many would argue
ThickAsThieves: i dont enjoy the baggage of my hometown and people
mircea_popescu: so get out ?
ThickAsThieves: i did
mircea_popescu: generally people try to resolve through anonimity problems that have their solution elsewhere. because it's cheap.
ThickAsThieves: just syaing some ability to be clean-slated exists
ThickAsThieves: and desire for it
rithm: ThickAsThieves I moved back to my "home town" outside of the city limits now I'm being annexed
rithm: city council next tuesday
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not like you can't make a new key any time you want.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of scary shit, http://37.media.tumblr.com/3e98e7c55649dc7423de0eb26630625a/tumblr_mihjrzicaj1qlne6uo1_500.jpg
ThickAsThieves: right, but like i said, i'm envisioning some future where a new key is like being birn yesterday
ThickAsThieves: and you are treated as such
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves precisely what it is. and yes.
ThickAsThieves: that's what we want?
mircea_popescu: this is what anonymity already is. not a matter of what we want.
ThickAsThieves: hrm
mircea_popescu: how do you treat random 4channer./redditor/etc ?
mircea_popescu: not like he's been born yest ?
ThickAsThieves: so basically people mostly arbitrage their anonymity via lies, deception, unaccountability, ignorant bliss
mircea_popescu: something like that.
ThickAsThieves: maybe it's just being in america so long,
ThickAsThieves: but it's starting to feel surreal like that
ThickAsThieves: like everything is just a measure of fantasy
ThickAsThieves: how fake is this
mircea_popescu: well, human identity is precisely that.
ThickAsThieves: how much lying am i dealing with
ThickAsThieves: people get so mad when you poke at it
ThickAsThieves: it must be painful to be real
ThickAsThieves: fear of death maybe?
ThickAsThieves: mortality*
mircea_popescu: i think this was best discussed in relation to the perianne chick and my old class mate recently.
mircea_popescu: since the us has built this quite insane "valuation by social consensus" thing, people aim to impress others rather than do anything.
ThickAsThieves: but how is it so appealing?
ThickAsThieves: it's like junk food
ThickAsThieves: i guess
mircea_popescu: why is it so appealing. because standing in front of a bunch of people and telling them to get fucked is scary.
DreadKnight: the doge wants to play with that red ball xD
ThickAsThieves: so just stay away from people you want to fuck off
ThickAsThieves: a nation of fucktards and videogamers
ThickAsThieves: some yinyang
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves avoidance dun work.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00078598 = 17.7238 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1113 @ 0.00078803 = 0.8771 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: Once again, I'm putting out there an offer to pay someone to do some light work and compiling for the Altcoin wallet.
ThickAsThieves: Also, jurov, when will CoinBr support ATC? Geez!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but support it to do what with ?
ThickAsThieves: I have a dream that one day this coin will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that Altcoins are created equal and can be used to purchase MPEx stocks."
mircea_popescu: what, directly ?
ThickAsThieves: could be a PT, separate market i guess
ThickAsThieves: directly is fine though, i accept your offer
mircea_popescu: no but it just makes no sense!
ThickAsThieves: you make no sense
mircea_popescu: anyone here have a positive view of teh demmurage notion ? fluffypony ? or who's the altcoin heretique du jour ?
fluffypony: I don't like it at all
fluffypony: I don't think it fixes anything
fluffypony: I do think a minimum subsidy at around the 0.4% - 1.5% mark is a better approach
mircea_popescu: what's a minimum subsidy ?
fluffypony: minsubsidy == lowest the block reward can go to
fluffypony: so the block reward will still taper down to that minsubsidy, but you'll never have a scenario where miner fees > block reward
mircea_popescu: once it's capped might as well make it fixed. 50 btc or w/e
fluffypony: yeah that's the other approach is to give it a fixed value instead of a % of supply
ben_vulpes: doge tried this. to disastrous results.
mircea_popescu: the difference between an infinite series and a finite series is marked. the difference between that last and a constant is not.
fluffypony: which then means your inflation goes down over time
BigBitz: back into 590s (almost)
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.0, Best ask: 589.98, Bid-ask spread: 5.98000, Last trade: 589.99, 24 hour volume: 11717.55646898, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 589.99, 24 hour vwap: 569.313572518
fluffypony: BigBitz: have you sold your Veyron to buy some more BTC?
fluffypony: :-P
BigBitz: No chance.
mircea_popescu: and another attempt to wreck bitcoin failed. o noes.
BigBitz: lots of big buys last 30-60mins.
ben_vulpes: lol BigBitz you have a bugatti?
BigBitz: two.
mircea_popescu: no, he has a toyota veyron
mircea_popescu: it's just as good :D
BigBitz: Ford Veyron :D
BigBitz: ben_vulpes; I wish.
BigBitz: I don't even have a Bugatti toy car.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu probably has Bugatti(s).
ben_vulpes: he likes mercedes, of all the odd choices.
mircea_popescu: hey, i grew up with em.
BigBitz: Ugh. Mercedes.
BigBitz: are you like 142 mircea_popescu?
ben_vulpes: mthreat, mircea_popescu, chetty, hanbot: seen any teslas in BsAs yet?
mircea_popescu: nope.,
ThickAsThieves: tesla isnt in samerica
mircea_popescu: BigBitz soon!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5770 @ 0.00079154 = 4.5672 BTC [+]
BigBitz: :)
ThickAsThieves: “We’re not going to sign an agreement that jeopardizes the future of all Argentines.” He added: “Argentines can remain calm because tomorrow will just be another day and the world will keep on spinning.”
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13267 @ 0.00079131 = 10.4983 BTC [-] {2}
BigBitz: demargies.
mircea_popescu: pretty much.
ben_vulpes: demargies?
mircea_popescu: demargies. http://31.media.tumblr.com/793d96d71ffd561915f8c9c49f321e8d/tumblr_mhkptr9JDU1rvl5q0o1_500.jpg
rithm: merk-a-deea
rithm: *merk-a-dees
ben_vulpes: pikachu
ben_vulpes: okay caffeine, get into my brain
assbot: [MPEX] [S.WOL] 25000 @ 0.0000485 = 1.2125 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: !t m s.wol
assbot: [MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0.000042 / 0.0000485 / 0.00005 (25000 shares, 1.21 BTC), 7D: 0.000042 / 0.0000485 / 0.00005 (25000 shares, 1.21 BTC), 30D: 0.000042 / 0.0000488 / 0.00008888 (25900 shares, 1.26 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13469 @ 0.00078703 = 10.6005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130369 @ 0.00079496 = 103.6381 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6162 @ 0.00079849 = 4.9203 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: "fed boosts view of economy" "us stocks tank ~1%"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 36 @ 0.022 = 0.792 BTC
ben_vulpes: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/31/apple-to-cut-about-200-jobs-at-beats/?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_tech
assbot: Apple to Cut About 200 Jobs at Beats - Digits - WSJ
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 191 @ 0.00268999 = 0.5138 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71172100 BTC to 12`755 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 5.58926680 BTC to 63`227 shares, 8840 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 16.58282696 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1442 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 220 @ 0.00300226 = 0.6605 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.0123647 = 0.7048 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes two shit companies colliding?
pete_dushenski: good mornin'
pete_dushenski: so ben_vulpes wants me to bring the bittits
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: wants me to bring the moosecocks...
ThickAsThieves: i do?
pete_dushenski: and mircea_popescu is on about jay something or other
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: yes, you do
ThickAsThieves: sometimes i feel like things happen when i'm not around
pete_dushenski: oh i see what i did
pete_dushenski: it was BingoBoingo who wanted the moosecocks
ThickAsThieves: you put moosecocks in my mouth
pete_dushenski: no matter
pete_dushenski: there's more than enough to go around
pete_dushenski: btw the #freenode staff are telling me that pete_dushenski is cloaked but i'm not seeing it, can anyone else?
mike_c: ;;ident pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: http://instagram.com/p/q_z8MgiJPj
assbot: Instagram
gribble: Nick 'pete_dushenski', with hostmask 'pete_dushenski!~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685', is identified as user 'pete_dushenski', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
kakobrekla: you are cloaked
mike_c: welcome to the retarded cloack/x-23423423 club.
pete_dushenski: shweet, ty mike_c and kakobrekla
pete_dushenski: next question: who handle the blogs.b-a page?
ben_vulpes: lampelina?
mike_c: not sure why we're not cool enough to not have random numbers at the end of our cloaks.
pete_dushenski: dat url needs updating
mike_c: pankkake isn't it?
ben_vulpes: http://instagram.com/p/q_z8MgiJPj
assbot: Instagram
ben_vulpes: oh ya pankkake
pete_dushenski: mike_c: it's not that cool… i had to write it on my chest to get it
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell pankkake please to update blogs to pete_dushenski
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell pankkake and contravex.com :)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: your brand is so dynamic
pete_dushenski: better than vanilla
pete_dushenski: not as good as pistachio
ThickAsThieves: http://thecabin.net/stories/100401/sty_1004010018.shtml
ThickAsThieves: also: http://bassettsicecream.com/p-51-List-Flavors-in-Order-of-Popularity
assbot: Bassetts Ice Cream - America's Oldest Ice Cream Company - Philadelphia, PA - List Flavors in Order of Popularity
ThickAsThieves: so there.
ThickAsThieves: vanilla is both dynamic and most-liked
pete_dushenski: eh who wants to be most liked?
pete_dushenski: http://contravex.com/2014/07/31/y-combinator-the-american-idol-of-venture-capital/
assbot: Y Combinator: The American Idol of Venture Capital | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: it's a long one…
pete_dushenski: ;;nethash
gribble: 149456922.086
pete_dushenski: mmm… spoondoolies...
princessnell: nice one pete. and yes econtalk is solid.
pete_dushenski: princessnell: tis where i first heard of bitcoin
pete_dushenski: like many others, i imagine
pete_dushenski: though much like trilema, it took me about a year to wrap my noodle around it
pete_dushenski: then… bam!
pete_dushenski: anyone else here a french press fan? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/magazine/who-made-that-french-press.html?_r=0
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
princessnell: ha, small world. i was a super fangirl in college, couldn't miss an episode.
princessnell: now i am in the econtalk world all the time so i don't tune in as much.
pete_dushenski: there are still some useful conversations there, most episodes are worth an hour of my time
pete_dushenski: for those who want to go crazy fast… on a train: http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20140719p2a00m0na013000c.html
assbot: Transport minister approves construction of maglev train line -
xanthyos: hi
rithm: hi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 378 @ 0.00269729 = 1.0196 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/31/mt-gox-ripple-founder-unveils-stellar-a-new-digital-currency-project/?mod=WSJBlog
assbot: Mt. Gox, Ripple Founder Unveils Stellar, a New Digital Currency Project - MoneyBeat - WSJ
punkman: pete_dushenski: YC used to only give $10-15k, $120k happened recently, so they've probably spent much less than $86 mn
pete_dushenski: punkman: orly
kuzetsa: mmm, nice
pete_dushenski: well maybe their expenses are higher than $1 mn / year
punkman: there was also another VC that started giving around $100k to any YC accepted company
punkman: no questions asked
pete_dushenski: punkman: bleat go the sheep
kuzetsa: After March 2015 (equinox) I'll be turning off my 65nm BFL space heater
punkman: http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/28/yuri-milner-sv-angel-offer-every-new-y-combinator-startup-150k/
assbot: Start Fund: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer EVERY New Y Combinator Startup $150k | TechCrunch
kuzetsa: it's finally at the point where break-even (for my low electricity costs) is achieved for the mining revenue VS electricity cost O_O
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 346 @ 0.00269904 = 0.9339 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: punkman: the argument can be made that yc's $10k in 2005 fiat is worth about $120k in 2014 fiat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1073 @ 0.00269998 = 2.8971 BTC [+] {5}
punkman: yeah, they also were actually paying attention then
punkman: 1 minute video, lol
punkman: also curious: http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/28/y-combinator-may-be-removing-vcs-from-its-list-of-backers/
assbot: Y Combinator may be removing VCs from its list of backers | VentureBeat | Entrepreneur | by Christina Farr
punkman: "startups enrolled in the program may soon receive funding from an entirely new source: Traditional limited partners. These LPs tend to be family offices, pension funds, and universities."
pete_dushenski: sounds like american idol
pete_dushenski: they'll eventually rebrand to x-factor or equivalent
ThickAsThieves: So, Stellar is Ripple 2.0?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11391 @ 0.00079831 = 9.0935 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: Pointing the finger at Republicans for congressional inaction, President Barack Obama chided lawmakers with "Stop being mad all the time. Stop just hating all the time. Come on."
ThickAsThieves: he needs some troll spray
ThickAsThieves: trollbegone
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: and of course, stripe, another yc turd, is behind it
ThickAsThieves: i like that Jed is like, fuck you?, no fuck YOU! ... at least
ThickAsThieves: you think theyd take an ATC proposal? maybe namecoin WoT? decentralized google? https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/grant-program/
assbot: Grant Program | The Bitcoin Foundation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19838 @ 0.00079901 = 15.8508 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: yc --> stripe --> stellar --> tux --> lulz
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: atc has a shot
pete_dushenski: it has the strongest community for sure
pete_dushenski: off into the world. cheers
xanthyos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqymcJRSbxI
assbot: Arrested Drunk Guy Sings Queens Bohemian Rhapsody-The Funniest Video Ever! - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.2665 = 1.599 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.25050001 = 1.002 BTC [-] {2}
novusordo: herro
punkman: "Stellar was developed by the Stellar Development Foundation, a non-profit created by Stripe CEO Patrick Collison and Ripple co-founder Jed McCaleb plus $3 million in initial funding from Stripe."
punkman: why do people keep giving Jed money?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24544292 = 1.7181 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 336 @ 0.00284999 = 0.9576 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> you put moosecocks in my mouth << he's canadian, it's what they do.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> your brand is so dynamic <<< ahahahh good one.
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> punkman: orly << yup.
mircea_popescu: yc used to be all about "give us a chunk of equity for free."
mircea_popescu: hi novusordo
mircea_popescu: punkman "people" aren't. idiots tho...
mircea_popescu: http://37.media.tumblr.com/ca5a2bc6916fac10fdfb3ef49ff75b4c/tumblr_mhf4sbUNti1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << liek so.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 210 @ 0.00284999 = 0.5985 BTC [+]
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/okfZ2Di.png
punkman: https://www.stellar.org/about/mandate/#Bitcoin_program
assbot: Mandate | Stellar
punkman: "The Foundation received a loan of $3,000,000 from Stripe which was subsequently repaid with 2% of the stellars. "
mircea_popescu: wait what ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 219 @ 0.00269999 = 0.5913 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: oh that thing.
punkman: so they value stellars at $0.0015 each
punkman: 5k free stellars if I signup with facebook, equals $7.5. facebook account costs $0.05
mircea_popescu: they have such a no idea wtf they're doing i can't even be bothered to try and short the things
punkman: indeed
mircea_popescu: not like any of the "investors" are gonna buy anyway
punkman: 20 billion stellars to be given to btc holders, calculated by the percentage of total btc you hold on some future date
punkman: this looks like it will die much faster than Ripple
mircea_popescu: i don't get this.
mircea_popescu: so they are allowing people to dilute the stripe investment wih facebook accounts and mere btc holdings ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00083538 = 4.0098 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this looks like investors in stripe will be able to sue collision for simple fraud.
punkman: 100 billion total, 1% inflation a year
mircea_popescu: "you gave away 3mn of our money for the equivalent of of 600k facebook accounts ? FU."
mircea_popescu: someone's lying somewhere.
punkman: this scam is getting old already
punkman: but I do want to see another dozen iterations for some reason
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 514 @ 0.00290995 = 1.4957 BTC [+]
punkman: https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/21/ <- why is profit only 100 total, leaving 900 in the pot
assbot: Game 21 - Death 6506 Life 3494 Year 187 - War of Life
mike_c: punkman: right now, 35% of pot goes to life, and nobody bought any shares
mike_c: free money!
punkman: wouldn't it look better if you seeded each side with 1 atc or so
mike_c: perhaps. on the other hand, you just learned something? btc games are seeded with bets.
punkman: yeah I was thinking 35% of 1000, forgot to add the bets
punkman: maybe I should make another calculator
mircea_popescu: princessnell you ever seen daisies btw ?
princessnell: the flower?
mircea_popescu: 60s czech movie.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski there can only be one: http://www.amazon.com/Coffee-Shrub-CLEVER-Clever-Dripper/dp/B0047W70GY
assbot: Amazon.com: Clever Coffee Dripper (L): Single Serve Brewing Machines: Kitchen & Dining
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !up ziggamon
ben_vulpes: i am hacking on bitcoin things
ben_vulpes: in my office
ben_vulpes: with my dog curled at my feet
ben_vulpes: life is *so good*
mircea_popescu: lol ben_win
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-delivers-first-sp30/
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-tech-updates-power-drawhash-rate/
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-halts-sales-sp30-investigating-technical-issues/
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondolies-sp30-asic-arrives-tuesday/
mircea_popescu: what's this lol.
mike_c: he's more prolific than you!
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall these being old tho
artifexd: ThickAsThieves: This you? http://i.imgur.com/kS8uaQV.jpg
mircea_popescu: artifexd i dun think so tbh.
mircea_popescu: glasses, hat, weird mouth posture, horrible pic. but anwyay.
artifexd: He said something about his citibank styled btc shirt the other day.
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/daisies/
mircea_popescu: a true
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10911 @ 0.00083724 = 9.1351 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00084275 = 0.8335 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00083538 = 1.1871 BTC [-]
mike_c: ;;later tell jurov re: the games tend to go in one direction. current game was looking like it was about to tip heavy death and did a 180. http://bit.ly/1pJopUe
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1285 @ 0.00083538 = 1.0735 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: http://rt.com/news/176852-bolivia-israel-terrorist-state/
mike_c: wasn't bolivia the one that banned bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: ecuador.
Duffer1: how would they go about trying to do that?
mircea_popescu: "offense in Gaza which already killed more than 1,300 dead"
mircea_popescu: hm, anyone ever compiled the us civilian death toll yet ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00083535 = 11.2355 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: so like half a mil in iraq, afew mil in afghanistan/pakistan/whatever ? mkay. loooking forward to bolivia declaring teh us a terrorist state once a day till 2016.
The20YearIRCloud: I want to know how many were militants, and how many were civilians held in known military installations
mircea_popescu: and how will you know that ?
The20YearIRCloud: magic
mircea_popescu: there's at least that one case where the israelis bombed a "school" that held a bunch of missiles.
The20YearIRCloud: and there recently a hospital bombed where militants were instagramming it full of explosives
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 413 @ 0.00375188 = 1.5495 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1392 @ 0.00083752 = 1.1658 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4306 @ 0.00083299 = 3.5869 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: dow crashes, mpex soars...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9814 @ 0.00083171 = 8.1624 BTC [-] {2}
The20YearIRCloud: what's causing the dump?
mircea_popescu: teh jooz.
pete_dushenski: on the dow? probably just reality
pete_dushenski: jooz = reality
mircea_popescu: mmmm steak
novusordo: MP: not sure if you saw my message from half an hour or so ago, my shitty connection died
FabianB: !s http://the-wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/28/Blockchain-offers-loans-up-to-10-bitcoins-and-savings-accounts-to-its-users
assbot: Blockchain’s offers loans and savings account to its users
assbot: 0 results for 'http://the-wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/28/Blockchain-offers-loans-up-to-10-bitcoins-and-savings-accounts-to-its-users' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fthe-wsj.com%2Fmoneybeat%2F2014%2F07%2F28%2FBlockchain-offers-loans-up-to-10-bitcoins-and-savings-accounts-to-its-users
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29973 = 1.7984 BTC [+] {3}
rithm: huh
mircea_popescu: novusordo did not.
rithm: https://block-chainl.info/savings-loans/Blockchain-Savings-and-Loans.htm
assbot: Blockchain Savings and Loans
rithm: hard to believe that
mircea_popescu: lmao
rithm: that's fake
rithm: why the fuck is there an l in there
mircea_popescu: or a dash
The20YearIRCloud: cause you're tarded
mthreat: and what is the-wsj.com
mircea_popescu: or, for that matter, a knuckle. http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/08-2014/p03/p/15.jpg
The20YearIRCloud: some tarded site
rithm: so it's two domain spoofs
The20YearIRCloud: yes
rithm: a fake article about something that's crazy to another fake site
mircea_popescu: three! three domain spoofs
novusordo: mircea_popescu: was just curious about the "new blood" rating you left on WoT for me, haven't checked my ratings for quite a while and just noticed.
FabianB: omg, lol, sorry for posting that
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot novusordo
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask novusordo!~novusordo@unaffiliated/novusordo. Trust relationship from user assbot to user novusordo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=novusordo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=novusordo | Rated since: Wed Jan 25 18:31:34 2012
mircea_popescu: novusordo because of it you are able to speak here.
rithm: that's tricky tho
rithm: i was digging into it already
mircea_popescu: shit FabianB so i cant has 10 btc loan and savings acct nao ?!
FabianB: for 7% a week i guess
mircea_popescu: i am never trusting another internet for as long as i lyf.
mircea_popescu: internets are pigs.
FabianB: blockchain.info is already always advertising for btcjam, i guess almost as good
mircea_popescu: yeah the differences are getting really minute
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00080628 = 1.2497 BTC [-]
novusordo: oh, ok I get it now
novusordo: in order to get voice, assbot must have some level of trust to the user
novusordo: thought the only requirement was being authed
mircea_popescu: exactky. http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/
assbot: #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mod6: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 7k High: 206 Low: 205 VWAP: 205
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE S.WOL
pete_dushenski: so russ roberts, host of econtalk, retweeted my blog skewering ycombinator: https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/494884576443895808
pete_dushenski: veeery good chance he didn't read the article
pete_dushenski: i'm still holding out that sam altman will
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: I see Jackson Palmer abandoned Dogecoin to work on Stellar
pete_dushenski: what's more to the moon than stellar shit?
Duffer1: i haven't kept up with the altcoin scene wtfs a stellar?
fluffypony: Duffer1: Ripple 2.0
Duffer1: gg
fluffypony: Jed's pet project
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 people that failed doge and ripple joined forces to make a new scamcoin.
pete_dushenski: sorta like bernanke and maddoff getting together to make a new hedge fund
Duffer1: ha
mircea_popescu: THE FUTURE OF DOLLARS
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: https://github.com/stellar/stellard/commit/4173cd291cf1cc94ffab321c5ddbc21a8058a4a4
assbot: XRP -> STR 4173cd2 stellar/stellard GitHub
mircea_popescu: lol
fluffypony: it's a Ripple altcoin :-P
rithm: because ripple is interplanetary
rithm: everyone knows that
rithm: chainless, non bound by latency, stellar scaling
mircea_popescu: basically they're all copying the bfl model.
mircea_popescu: promise, fail to deliver, roll it up in new promise
mircea_popescu: pity scammors are so anticreative.
rithm: awesome search/replace though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 785 @ 0.00270999 = 2.1273 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: this is the fucking result of having created a reservaton of half a billion cud chewers that would rather dream than do.
mircea_popescu: just keep em dreamin'.
rithm: oh it's actuall mccaleb's fork of ripple
rithm: and it's named stellard. guys i'm telling you the idea of ripple WAS interplanetary transactions
rithm: i know i sound crazy but i'm not
rithm: none of this chained shit work earth <--> mars
mircea_popescu: !up ADutchGamer
rithm: too much latency, you need a new digital fiat
[]bot: Bet created: "Ripple (XRP) over 0.00002 BTC before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1011/
mircea_popescu: https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/20/ << 25 btc almost, not so bad
assbot: Game 20 - Death 4802 Life 5198 Year 860 - War of Life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.02701639 = 0.5133 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 216 @ 0.00272 = 0.5875 BTC [+]
justusranvier: https://twitter.com/rayne_2/status/494676481268649984
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/20/ << 25 btc almost, not so bad << .25 btc/wk profit. pretty good.
assbot: Game 20 - Death 4916 Life 5084 Year 865 - War of Life
mircea_popescu: justusranvier ahaha
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes like a small miner.
justusranvier: It gets worse: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Homeopaths_Without_Borders
assbot: Homeopaths Without Borders - RationalWiki
fluffypony: hah hah
BingoBoingo: !up princessnell
BingoBoingo: !up coltan
assbot: coltan +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 645 @ 0.00272999 = 1.7608 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up coltan
BingoBoingo: Hello coltan
coltan: Hi there
coltan: is anybody of you investing in maidsafe?
BingoBoingo: I doubt it
BigBitz: MaidSafe. lol.
BingoBoingo: http://contravex.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/
assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
coltan: I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much
coltan: you can criticize but they've got a working beta so they are delivering something
BingoBoingo: Well, but what is it they are delivering. What is Maidsafe's function?
BingoBoingo: Is it a function that can generate the sort of demand that would offset existing investments with revenue?
BigBitz: No.
BigBitz: It's nonsense.
BingoBoingo: ^ exactly
coltan: if you think so but they took the internet and added some privacy and security to it seems nice to me
BigBitz: IF you're a fanboi I feel bad for you son, you got 99 problems but picking bad coins ain't one.
BingoBoingo: coltan: But what parts of the internet and how strong is the actual privacy and security compared to existing alternatives
coltan: BingoBoingo: true
BigBitz: What do you mean true? You just commented that 'they took the internet and added some privacy and security to it seems nice to me' .....
BingoBoingo: coltan: You have to consider that Maidsafe's actual competitor isn't Dropbox, but real solutions that... already work very well
asciilifeform: https://github.com/stellar/stellard/commit/4173cd291cf1cc94ffab321c5ddbc21a8058a4a4 << lol!
assbot: XRP -> STR 4173cd2 stellar/stellard GitHub
asciilifeform: 'sed' artists, Amazing!
coltan: So I guess this is also the place to get some hate about ethereum?
mircea_popescu: coltan hardly. but you could buy some.
coltan: i've seen your offer :P
mircea_popescu: <coltan> I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much << nor into web 2.0, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'sed' artists, Amazing! << ki8nda reminds me of any kid's first hacking, replacing strings in binaries.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: then kid discovers checksums - learns to do arithmetic.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dp8uSZoQ1qddd4so1_500.jpg << meanwhile the proctologists sans frontieres are... buried in work ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these people - have not yet reached that state of child development
mircea_popescu: then one day discovers cheksums that are FUCKING WRONG
mircea_popescu: learns 2 hash...
ThickAsThieves: <+artifexd> ThickAsThieves: This you? http://i.imgur.com/kS8uaQV.jpg /// Just some random dood wearing my shirt.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Kind of looks like Zerlan
BingoBoingo: Vaguely
BigBitz: Hah. It fucking does as well.
ThickAsThieves: <+FabianB> omg, lol, sorry for posting that /// pay the assbot!
mircea_popescu: Your website van-ads.com
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mircea_popescu: see ben_vulpes, your webdesigns suck.
ThickAsThieves: <+coltan> I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much /\\/ o dear...
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: well… http://contravex.com/2014/03/19/there-is-no-bitcoin-2-0/
assbot: There Is No "Bitcoin 2.0" | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
mircea_popescu: i guess we're just not poor enough to care about "2.0"
ThickAsThieves: maybe we she should make hipster I <3 BTC 2.0
ThickAsThieves: t-shirts
mircea_popescu: why not fur coat 2.0 tshirts ?
pete_dushenski: business model 2.0
mircea_popescu: buy em for so's bday. "honey, i got you an ecological hermine. it's a tshirt"
pete_dushenski: antique 2.0
ThickAsThieves: Beta 2.0
pete_dushenski: racism 2.0
mircea_popescu: since we're on the topic, is cunt asshole 2.0 or vice versa ?
ThickAsThieves: 3.0
mircea_popescu: i mean on one hand the cunt has more features
mircea_popescu: but on the other, it generally ends in the ass.
pete_dushenski: it's definitely vice versa
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3704 @ 0.00082348 = 3.0502 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: what about mouth.0?
mircea_popescu: whoa. i just realised my power supply is rated 220
mircea_popescu: THIS IS 2.0 OF 2.0!
ThickAsThieves: 220.0
ThickAsThieves: all the .0s are taken we'll need to make a new domain
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if only anything'd been designed lol
mircea_popescu: oh sad day, all my forks are 1.0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 970 @ 0.00272484 = 2.6431 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Really, all my forks are 3.0
mircea_popescu: you got all that meat...
BingoBoingo: *except for the ones that are 4.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8111 @ 0.00082241 = 6.6706 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: pretty hostile eh http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ca5tf/sabotage_at_satoshi_forest_seansoutpost/
assbot: Sabotage at Satoshi Forest (@SeansOutpost) : Bitcoin
cazalla: probably did it himself to keep donations coming in
ben_vulpes: gotta spend money to make money
ben_vulpes: hue
cazalla: hey reddit, the water bill is $700 this month but you managed to raised $7000, pat on back reward is warranted
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00271 = 1.084 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/494987461781901312
pete_dushenski: "I was a bitcoin skeptic, but Stellar might just get me excited about cryptocurrency." -Twitter broad
pete_dushenski: http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surp/#b156 << rockin' the boat!
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (86%) on Yes, 186.28 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 59`033 (100`000 to 1)
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.08, Best ask: 585.12, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 583.08, 24 hour volume: 9498.92583311, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 574.887660693
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.0027 = 1.053 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: ;;calc 0.0045*583
gribble: 2.6235
pete_dushenski: ooo coffee money
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: my philosophy is not that it should be hard, but merely that if anyone complains, of anything, it should be made worse for them. << be grateful.
pete_dushenski: FoOdies5: but seriously tho, seenig what kids these days grow up on, we're pretty much fucked << has said everyone since forever. not that i'm removed from this
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: decimation intellectuals SHOULD run everything. the only problem is that the courtiers of the french republic are not intellectuals. << indeed. contemporary courtiers are but lengthily-educated jesters
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Seriously where did Contravex come from that it is so much better than MooseCocks
pete_dushenski: moosecocks was too obvious
pete_dushenski: might as well be HuitPouces
pete_dushenski: and what, you wanna name my blog for me nao?
pete_dushenski: contravex, for those who care, is a riff off convex, as in convex payoffs, à la taleb.
BingoBoingo: BAlright
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15882 @ 0.00082436 = 13.0925 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00082343 = 6.1346 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i was expecting a lot more obvious drunkedness tbh. but sober ? maybe you should write a book. << book? what book. "hey. tits? they're worth 0.1 btc now, which i'll hold for you indefinitely. let's tits. tits everyone? great." << precisely. why book when you can blog?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 8 @ 0.08000474 = 0.64 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: First http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/31/july-combined-trading-statement/
assbot: July Combined Trading Statement | Bingo Blog
BingoBoingo: ^ Date says 7/31, because Blog isn't GMT
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/31/july-combined-trading-statement/
BingoBoingo patiently waits for ATC markets to go all to hell like last month
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski i already have one web thing that i gotta stare at all day on my plate, the blog'd be too much right at this point
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !up jordandotdev
BingoBoingo: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 8k High: 206 Low: 205 VWAP: 205
BingoBoingo: %ob
atcbot: 8k@260 17k@250 49k@248 | 62k@205 23k@203 100k@202
BingoBoingo: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 501657.65 in 515 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -27.00
BingoBoingo: %tslb
atcbot: 0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!)
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313408 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1087 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19707575923.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.18313
BingoBoingo: ;;baseball,NLRookieoftheYear
gribble: Error: "baseball,NLRookieoftheYear" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: !up nam-shub
nam-shub: thanks BingoBoingo - I can voice up my other nick if I have something truly beautiful to impart to the community
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.97, Best ask: 587.15, Bid-ask spread: 2.18000, Last trade: 586.97, 24 hour volume: 9033.75227728, 24 hour low: 556.14, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 576.693349374
ben_vulpes: !down nam-shub
ben_vulpes: neener neener you're not authed
BingoBoingo: !up RagnarsBitch
BingoBoingo: !up fanquake
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
decimation: http://online.wsj.com/articles/argentina-mulls-legal-options-in-debt-dispute-1406814851
assbot: Argentine Debt Feud Finds Much Fault, Few Fixes - WSJ
decimation: unlike the us, Argentina doesn't have the ability to pretend to be solvent forever
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12352 @ 0.00082262 = 10.161 BTC [-]
decimation: "A U.S. District Court has ruled that Argentina can't pay holders of restructured bonds until it compensates the holdouts, who have sued for full payment on bonds the country defaulted on in 2001. Some investors accepted discounted bonds in restructurings in 2005 and 2010. The bonds fall under New York jurisdiction because they were issued in New York."
decimation: This is why New York thinks it can throw its "weight" around with bitcoin regulation
BingoBoingo: Well, it seems... New York isn't as important as it used to be if Newer New York can flip it the bird
BingoBoingo: !up jwSchool
The20YearIRCloud: joy
The20YearIRCloud: so argentina is in default because they can't restructur ethe bonds from 2001?
BingoBoingo: the20year: Well, because the people who didn't want the to resturcture... Were the ones who claimed jurisdiction
The20YearIRCloud: guess i have a hard time grasping it
The20YearIRCloud: I don't understand why they issued debt through new york, unless they had to be approved in a US state in order to sell it here
BingoBoingo: the20year: Well, that's why New York Imagines they can regulate Bitcoin, because New York is where people used to have to trade if the wanted access to capital
The20YearIRCloud: lots of VC and capital in NY , i'm sure they feel like they're still gateway to the US
BingoBoingo: Well, this is why the trend in US States not named New York seems to be Not really regulating Bitcoin-Bitcoin interaction
BingoBoingo: Especially Texas.
The20YearIRCloud: are there any states that have said they want to regulate?
BingoBoingo: They dunno how Big Bitcoin might get, but if it takes off this seems to be the chance for them to leave New York's shadow
BingoBoingo: It's murkey aside from the NY Bitlicense thing. Some have taken the Federal line at Bitcoin isn't... Money as they regulate it like Texas.
BingoBoingo: Most states seem to be waiting
BingoBoingo: !up peterl
peterl: hi
The20YearIRCloud: hi
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12247 @ 0.00082286 = 10.0776 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: peterl: I dunno if your are interested, but the first MPIF PC statement's already hit.
The20YearIRCloud: what's that?
peterl: oh, linked on the blogs?
The20YearIRCloud: this is for tat's thing?
BingoBoingo: peterl: Yeah
BingoBoingo: The20YearIRCloud: Nah, from mine
BingoBoingo: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/31/july-combined-trading-statement/
assbot: July Combined Trading Statement | Bingo Blog
BingoBoingo: Pushed it out as soon as the month rolled over GMT because it has some new
BingoBoingo: s
The20YearIRCloud: BingoBoingo: you're an issuer on mpex?
BingoBoingo: The20YearIRCloud: No, I was hired to do work for Mircea. Mircea is the issuer
The20YearIRCloud: k, i haven't been paying attention to most of the mpex listings (obviously)
The20YearIRCloud: !up duffer
jwSchool: think in cali it's been recognized as currency
jwSchool: not sure if that's good or bad in terms or regulation, tbh
jwSchool: nevermind
jwSchool: think they just repealed a law that outlawed it
jwSchool: The bill repeals the provision of the old legislation, which banned the use of "anything but the lawful money of the United States."
Duffer1: good evening b-a
BingoBoingo: Evening Duffer1
The20YearIRCloud: Oty
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "short-sighted"
The20YearIRCloud: It's gonna be interesting to see how tomorrow's RS conference call goes
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Where?
BingoBoingo: Oh, the statement.
peterl: am I calculating right, BingoBoingo you are up abou 0.33% this month?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> unlike the us, Argentina doesn't have the ability to pretend to be solvent forever << it does have the ability to pretend. it doesn't have the hordes of idiots to pretend they believe the pretense.
mircea_popescu: but this seems largely an academic point.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I find the wording I used more accurate than your suggested correction.
mircea_popescu: also, this is well disputed in the logs. they dont "fall under ny jurisdiction because they were issued in ny". they specifically say they do, because of a previous default.
BingoBoingo: peterl: Doesn't sound wrong?
mircea_popescu: and also http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentina’s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud ^
The20YearIRCloud: gonna read, might have to buy some credits first though
The20YearIRCloud: it's redirecting me to the homepage mircea_popescu
peterl: does the ' mess up the link?
The20YearIRCloud: now it works
mircea_popescu: o.O
The20YearIRCloud: err no, it's just doing a random article redirect
mircea_popescu: you are probably messing up the apostrophe.
mircea_popescu: lick it from teh log ?
mircea_popescu: o look, log messes up the apostrophe too.
mircea_popescu: ’
mircea_popescu: lol ? === ’
peterl: darn computers
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentina%E2%80%99s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/ ?
assbot: Understanding Argentinas Coming Default, For Real This Time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: e2 80 99, RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
The20YearIRCloud: you ran me out of credits mircea_popescu with your redirects
mircea_popescu: tis my plan.
mircea_popescu: gotta remember not to apostrophe in blog titles.
mircea_popescu: and also http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentina’s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: meh!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentinas-coming-default-for-real-this-time/ thar.
assbot: Understanding Argentinas Coming Default, For Real This Time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
nam-shub: whats the RON asset trade or what did they trade?
mircea_popescu: say wut?
BingoBoingo: nam-shub: It was attempting to MM BTC/RON currency pair. Profitable safe enough opportunities were too rare and ATC was too promising to keep resource allocation as it was.
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711979.msg8042788#msg8042788 << Lulztalk now attracts internet famous as scammzors
assbot: This is how you ERASE the BS TRUST on this forum
nam-shub: What is a RON then?
mircea_popescu: https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Sollog << thats lulzy.
assbot: Sollog - Encyclopedia Dramatica
BingoBoingo: nam-shub: Romanian leiu
BingoBoingo: nam-shub: Basically Romanian fiat
nam-shub: ahh...
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentinas-coming-default-for-real-this-time/
nam-shub: thanks
nam-shub: does anyone want a link to MP's piece on Argentinian Default?
BingoBoingo: !MPIF
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021718 B (Total: 474.94 B). Delta: -0.34 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nam-shub sell it for bitcents!
mircea_popescu: "The point the op was making is that adoni has mega millions in assets yet all their people posting here get negative ratings from broke losers mad they have no mega million dollar assets to dicuss deals on." << check it out, teh tortilla got moar competition.
The20YearIRCloud: Btctalk is..... interesting
The20YearIRCloud: I want mega millions
mircea_popescu: that'd be basically a few trillion
The20YearIRCloud: Zimbabwe dollars or normal ones?
BingoBoingo: The20YearIRCloud: Isn't MegaMillions a lottery game?
The20YearIRCloud: Yes
peterl: if I had a million dollars ...
The20YearIRCloud: A powerball competitor
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/json/
BingoBoingo: Who runs http://www.bcoinnews.com again?
assbot: Bitcoin News | Bitcoin Charts, News, and Tutorials. Bitcoin mining and network statistics live.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell jborkl you have a pluging behaving badly...
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell jborkl not in a spammy way, but in a different sort of way you need to know about
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian/status/489837122476462082
BingoBoingo: !up aegis
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4617 @ 0.00082286 = 3.7991 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00082245 = 4.7291 BTC [-] {3}
decimation: so the Fed "prints" dollars, loans them to New York Banks, the banks loan the printed dollars to Argentina, Argentina wants a better deal, Argentina decides not to pay, and now the Supreme court 'upholds' that the US court finds that Argentina must repay the printed dollars loaned to the banks loaned to Argentina?
decimation: I can see why default is the most attractive option here
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/07/spy-reporting-federal-crimes.pdf << fuhrer decree to the effect that nsa, etc. can be used to enforce u.s. laws.
asciilifeform: (IANAL, but it's pretty much unambiguous)
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/uQYdQAFM
assbot: REPORTING OF INFORMATION CONCERNING FEDERAL CRIMES MEMORANDUM OF UNDER - Pastebin.com
asciilifeform: ^ deturdified
BingoBoingo: Future 'Murican Lawyers http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/bar-exam-tech-disaster-inspires-lawsuit-threats-operat-1613129108/+Sean-Newell
assbot: Bar Exam Tech Disaster Inspires Lawsuit Threats, Operatic Profanity
mircea_popescu: that deadspin thing gawker too ?
mircea_popescu: decimation> I can see why default is the most attractive option here << it is quite as the local elite presents it, a matter of "fuck you or else we might as well go home."
mircea_popescu: im impressed with their not being quite ready to go home yet. various other twerps with delusions of historical importance (france, say) don't have it.
mircea_popescu: they wish they had it, they like to pretend like they have it, but they don't actually.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah
BingoBoingo: Still software that fails at transmitting plaintext
mircea_popescu: then various twerps derp about "upholding contracts" in mises.org, and when i call them too smart by half they nervously BUT ANONYMOUSLY address it
mircea_popescu: because yeah, that's the right thing to do when mp says you';re stupid, come out with an "there have been some implications that we're stupid from some people that don't understand us"
mircea_popescu: anyway that lawyer shit is lulzy
mircea_popescu: Sergio Antonio (@SergiConte) July 30, 2014 fuck you @examsoft i've been crying for two hours. i'm not even fucking kidding right now this is the worst night of my life. <<< supposedly adult us male.
mircea_popescu: someone twist his fucking nipples already.
BingoBoingo: I know, really
ben_vulpes: MEN DON'T CRY, FAGGOT
mircea_popescu: they may cry, but it wouldn't be over the internets not uploading, srsly.
mircea_popescu: i mean wtf is this, angry german kids ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0
assbot: angry german kid - YouTube
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2TAsEzv0M
assbot: Angry Kid fart - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14426 @ 0.00082544 = 11.9078 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: http://saaaam.s3.amazonaws.com/lazycoin_whitepaper.pdf
decimation: any wannabe lawyer who finds the bar exam to be too difficult to pass doesn't deserve to be a lawyer
decimation: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2013-11-20/blame-rich-overeducated-elites-as-our-society-frays
assbot: Blame Rich, Overeducated Elites as Our Society Frays - Bloomberg View
decimation: "Economic Modeling Specialists Intl. recently estimated that twice as many law graduates pass the bar exam as there are job openings for them. In other words, every year U.S. law schools churn out about 25,000 ?surplus? lawyers, many of whom are in debt. A large number of them go to law school with an ambition to enter politics someday. "
decimation: 25,000 is probably a low estimate
cazalla: i wonder if stephanie accepts lazycoin in lazytown ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: til about lazytown
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00082889 = 15.4174 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: da fuck is lazytown
mircea_popescu: ;;ud lazytown
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lazytown | Lazytown. The most awesome show on earth, starring Magnus Scheving (six- time European champion gymnast, entrepreneur of the year and an Icelandic ...
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: decimation re bloomberg, damn anti-intellectualism is (still) going strong in that country.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00082847 = 5.7164 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29986799 = 1.4993 BTC [+] {3}

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