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← 2014-02-09 | 2014-02-11 → ↓
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00085692 = 24.0366 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00085363 = 14.7678 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0735 = 0.294 BTC [+]
copumpkin: all MPOE transactions are fairly large
copumpkin: I'd expect to see more "dust"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63463 @ 0.00085697 = 54.3859 BTC [+] {2}
copumpkin: see? large transactions!
copumpkin: where'd nefario go?
BingoBoingo: copumpkin: Prolly went to Panama
copumpkin: where'd my >0.001 MPOE go, anyway
copumpkin: give it back
copumpkin: man, once MPOE goes above 1 btc/share, I'll be rich
copumpkin: if not as rich as mircea_popescu
copumpkin: I can't wait
copumpkin: then I can give my bentley back to him
mircea_popescu: what's this bentley you keep speaking of lol
copumpkin: oh you know
copumpkin: just my car
copumpkin: okay fine, fine, I lied
mircea_popescu: i had no idea you drived
copumpkin: I don't own a bentley (or any car)
copumpkin: and I didn't steal any money from you
copumpkin: gah, such a stickler for details
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1650 @ 0.00020195 = 0.3332 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: he copumpkin
copumpkin: hey Chaang-Noi
Chaang-Noi: how ya been?
copumpkin: not bad, not doing anything in bitcoin these days
Chaang-Noi: still hodling?
copumpkin: yeah, a few :) you?
Chaang-Noi: yeah a few
Chaang-Noi: im not doing much either
Chaang-Noi: got some miners
Chaang-Noi: they should have been 2 TH/s but only 1.6 TH/s kinda sucks
Chaang-Noi: might have to sue em
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.074 = 0.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00085841 = 30.1302 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00085802 = 14.2002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029901 = 0.598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 578 @ 0.00020195 = 0.1167 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.12049999 = 1.205 BTC [-] {4}
KRS-One: That is some olympic ass I can dive right into.
KRS-One: .bait
KRS-One: ^^^ thats like somebody's mom
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00085889 = 23.4048 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1768 @ 0.00085875 = 1.5183 BTC [-]
benkay: eventually it all comes down to bits on the wire
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00085938 = 7.8633 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 181 @ 0.0055 = 0.9955 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04897944 = 0.2449 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04897954 = 0.6857 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00550001 = 0.1375 BTC [-]
davout: hello
kakobrekla: heya davout
kakobrekla: hows it going
davout: pretty good, and yourself kind sir ?
davout: i am about to prove the internet wrong
kakobrekla: excellent, seems im getting my power back
davout: the weed fumes are dissipating ?
davout: you'll read about it in the NYT toomorrow "Frenchman proves the internet wrong by having a shower"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 600 @ 0.000191 = 0.1146 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12955 @ 0.00085893 = 11.1274 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: i take it back
kakobrekla: no power
ozbot: 2621404453.06462 | Next Diff in 1195 blocks | Estimated Change: 11.9065% in 7d 7h 18m 51s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1299987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10935 @ 0.00085942 = 9.3978 BTC [+] {2}
btc-monkey: "Hello MagicalTux, any update about the current situation please ? <- the release is almost ready, running final checks before it goes online
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00085971 = 11.864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1819 @ 0.00085863 = 1.5618 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8641 @ 0.0008564 = 7.4002 BTC [-]
ozbot: MtGox - Bitcoin Exchange
BingoBoingo: So... MtGox plans to resume Bitcoin withdrawals... never?
Apocalyptic: let the dumping begin
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Why dumping?
davout: mtgox chan topic : "MtGox is NOT dead as a FUD post suggests" <<< priceless
Apocalyptic: some people want to get btc out of gox, they don't have any other choice but to sell
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.0, Best ask: 627.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.00000, Last trade: 620.0, 24 hour volume: 22218.65782057, 24 hour low: 620.21057, 24 hour high: 700.0, 24 hour vwap: 666.25873
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.0008564 = 19.1834 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1172 @ 0.0029875 = 3.5014 BTC [-] {19}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1292 @ 0.00292181 = 3.775 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 408 @ 0.00288932 = 1.1788 BTC [-] {6}
kakobrekla: flash crash
Apocalyptic: i hope other exchanges won't follow
Apocalyptic: there is no way to arb now anyway
KRS1: <gmaxwell> It is exceptionally unlikely that malleability will be fixed in the year. We've been slowly moving towards improving it, v0.8 closed of many forms of it.
davout: Apocalyptic: i think there will be bots propagating the dip
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00086008 = 40.4238 BTC [+] {4}
pizzaman1337: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.25, Best ask: 590.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.75000, Last trade: 580.13001, 24 hour volume: 27115.47675369, 24 hour low: 580.13, 24 hour high: 700.0, 24 hour vwap: 653.84098
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001902 = 0.1902 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0745 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
KRS1: wow if this is really a bug in bitcoin..otherwise what a perfect way to stall the failing of your exchange, tie up developers for months and blame btc
Apocalyptic: <KRS1> wow if this is really a bug in bitcoin // it's not...
punkman: so someone is fucking with MtGox? where is the proof?
Apocalyptic: <gmaxwell> orweinberger: not really. It makes some implications which are just flat out untrue.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13743 @ 0.00086036 = 11.8239 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.075 = 0.3 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: [the mtgox statement]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.19376446 = 2.9065 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.13033323 = 0.391 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.131 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0754 = 0.1508 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41470 @ 0.00086053 = 35.6862 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00086061 = 3.9588 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0754995 = 0.604 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12125 = 0.485 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.123 = 0.738 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: morning. so devs say mtgox largely fabricated whole issue?
dub: yep
kakobrekla: sauce?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00085619 = 4.2381 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: morning jurov
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.19376446 = 1.9376 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: gox is spreading so much fud in their statement
kakobrekla: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 221.07766 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.443037155331 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
kakobrekla: did this thing stop?
davout: BTC dropped 10% because of the announcement
kakobrekla: more like 20%
kakobrekla: but i think goxes strings and cans capped out
punkman: the chinese prices finally went below $700
davout: kakobrekla: looking at BC
davout: well, those delicious cheap coinz won't be lost on everyone
kakobrekla: whats the daily vol there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.55816667 = 5.5817 BTC [-] {8}
davout: shitty
kakobrekla: well it can only get better once gox blows
dub: word
davout: sure, that's pretty much the plan, do stuff right and let it mature
Apocalyptic: davout, sounds like a good plan
jurov: are the verifications going better yet?
davout: mucho better
davout: we have a bunch of chicks working full-time on it
kakobrekla: oh, if you have chicks, ill allow anal probing
jurov: i sent my brother over to b-c last week, dunno if he actually registered
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00285 = 0.1026 BTC [+]
davout: i need to implement referrals once everything calms down a bit
kakobrekla: btw have you looked into supporting neteller or is that something you cant do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00279821 = 5.5964 BTC [-] {13}
davout: looks like someone is trying to pull the same kind of shit karpeles is talking about on BC
davout: except he's trying to do it with deposits
davout: which is utterly retardeed
davout: i just made a deposit to my account
davout: and it appears twice, under two different TXIDs
kakobrekla: im starting to suspect gox lost a bunch of coins in this matter
davout: who knows
davout: but i can confirm first hand that someone mutated my TX on the fly
Apocalyptic: kako, it's certain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00270233 = 6.7558 BTC [-] {20}
kakobrekla: how is it certain
jurov: seems mtgox reimplemented their wallet from scratch and badly, so yes, they mayb have lost
davout: i'd suspect someone is out there mutating every single transaction around for fun and profit
jurov: from the reddit comment above
kakobrekla: doesnt open here dunno great firewall of somalia
davout: it's definitely not a problem for deposits tho
davout: it doesn't seem targeted
davout: lol
Apocalyptic: <kakobrekla> how is it certain // because people fixed the mispadded signature, so the coins went through and were refunded both at the same time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0754995 = 0.5285 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: cool beans
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12 = 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0754995 = 0.3775 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12 = 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0754995 = 0.2265 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00085992 = 21.025 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: glad we have a specification that says how to properly pad the numbers and stuff
davout: word
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.19376446 = 3.8753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00086149 = 21.968 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: well china doesn't seem to be giving many fucks, back to $700
kakobrekla: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 1327.087254 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.65946799821 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 605.0, Best ask: 640.0, Bid-ask spread: 35.00000, Last trade: 599.99, 24 hour volume: 34105.23173009, 24 hour low: 500.0, 24 hour high: 700.0, 24 hour vwap: 630.03267
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00085744 = 18.5207 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.1325 = 0.6625 BTC [+]
davout: that didn't last long
moiety: morning campers, what nationality theme are we having today?!
davout: definitely japanese
kakobrekla: i thought twas french,.
moiety: fucking excellent.. all i know is: sakana wa akai desu
moiety: french was yesterday my friend, move with the times
moiety: and why yes, the fish is red!
davout: sakana wa oiishi desu
davout: the fish is tasty
moiety: see that is more useful
punkman: あなたはgoxedてきた
moiety: is it later tell or tell later for gribbling to someone who isnt here?
davout: former
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00085712 = 13.8425 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: thanks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00085861 = 17.1722 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00085561 = 34.5239 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13589 @ 0.00085462 = 11.6134 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 290 @ 0.00080134 = 0.2324 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00085503 = 25.6509 BTC [+] {3}
KRS1: Fuck, like Punkman said..this shit ain't over.
KRS1: ;;tell
gribble: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.
KRS1: ;;tell nickbitreal nigga
gribble: Error: I haven't seen nickbitreal, I'll let you do the telling.
moiety: whats happeing KRS1?
moiety: more fun and games at gox?
davout: this will end with guns and fame...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00086204 = 21.551 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15633 @ 0.00085231 = 13.3242 BTC [-]
KRS1: ah nothing much
ozbot: DangerDoom (Danger Mouse & MF DOOM) - Bada Bing - YouTube
KRS1: ;;tell mircea_popescu You should petition the author of this photo and insist on adding mpex. http://i.imgur.com/edOnkZ2.jpg
gribble: Error: I haven't seen mircea_popescu, I'll let you do the telling.
ThickAsThieves: krs1 it's ;;later tell
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.19376446 = 9.6882 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4906 @ 0.0008612 = 4.225 BTC [+]
KRS1: HAHA good job punkman
KRS1: thx the20year
KRS1: thickasthieves hows ATC
KRS1: punkman: im going to paste that img into #mtgox
ThickAsThieves: ATC goes well, it's listed on its first shady exchange
punkman: parodycoin needs parodyexchange
ThickAsThieves: maybe jurov will market-make ATC on mpex
ThickAsThieves: or maybe Apocalyptic will list it on his, assuming he's confident in his security etc
ystarnaud: whats ATC?
ThickAsThieves: www.therealaltcoin.org
ystarnaud: thanks
ThickAsThieves: Gox and Bitfunder seem so similar now
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, what's the shady one you're talking about ?
ozbot: OpenEx
ThickAsThieves: run by r3wy
KRS1: haha
ThickAsThieves: apparently he has a somewhat unclean past
ThickAsThieves: ATC/BTC 0.00000157
ThickAsThieves: shouldnt be hard to beat doge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54999999 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: lol @ dr greg "Due to the fun of repeatedly chasing my tail for several minutes, backing out of positions left unhedged by the BTC.sx delay, and eating the spread both at BTC.sx and at ICBIT as a result, the fund has taken a haircut of just over 2% -- enough to erase all our gains to date."
ThickAsThieves: On a personal note, I am not at all happy about this outcome."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53510001 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: so basically gox is making it sound like someone maybe hacked bitcoin and double spent
ystarnaud: yeah
ystarnaud: its their own mistakes
ThickAsThieves: but really their implementation was not robust enough to work properly and they have a web to untangle
ystarnaud: they fell for a scam
ystarnaud: is more like it
ThickAsThieves: the ugly part is, they surely sold preemptively
ThickAsThieves: and buy bacl low
ystarnaud: they didnt make their software to account for this "issue" then someone probably played them claiming their money didnt go through and they resent
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00546961 = 0.5196 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.075987 = 0.228 BTC [+]
ystarnaud: i read somewhere too that they spend/use coins that are freshly minted and don't wait for the usual 100 confirms by the blockchain
ThickAsThieves: it tx ids are malleable why rely on them for a private system?
ThickAsThieves: i saw that too
ystarnaud: yeah someone pointed out most software will instead track user/amount/timestamp
ystarnaud: and they been told apparently
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53510001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.076 = 0.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.0054448 = 0.4574 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.08008735 = 0.961 BTC [+] {2}
the20year: seems they were told a while ago
the20year: Maybe they'll have to go back to trading magic cards:?
KRS1: that would kick ass
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53510001 BTC [-]
KRS1: Mark wouldn't have to be bothered with this stupid coin stuff all the time.
KRS1: hah love this part: examined Gox’s code to some degree, and remarked that they are using a strange “hodgepodge of technologies that are really not suitable for running an exchange.”
the20year: heh ,i guess btc touched $105 on btce
ystarnaud: say what?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.08498998 = 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin is dead, long live altcoin!
ystarnaud: haha TAT
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 751 @ 0.00079393 = 0.5962 BTC [-] {6}
davout: such blasphemy
ThickAsThieves: i actually think altcoin brings many great lessons
ThickAsThieves: even to people in this chan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.091 = 0.819 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5351 = 1.0702 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00299124 = 0.5982 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.53510001 = 1.0702 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: Altcoin Having Huge Affect on Bitcoin Hashrate, Transactions Grid to Halt ~ Karpeles -- source: https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53510001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00085387 = 19.9806 BTC [-]
davout: ThickAsThieves: lmao
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14744 @ 0.00085416 = 12.5937 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.53510001 = 1.0702 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.53510001 = 1.0702 BTC [+]
MisterE: sup?
MisterE: whats this channel for?
ThickAsThieves: higher learning
MisterE: graduate studies?
MisterE: wtf are you doing here you slacker? :p
MisterE: whats going on?
KRS1: we trade Magic: The Gathering cards here too
MisterE: looking for some sensible chat and analysis I'm bugged out from Trollbox
KRS1: thus, assets..duh.
ThickAsThieves: well you landed in the right place
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18024 @ 0.00085459 = 15.4031 BTC [+]
MisterE: I know you from around the way ThickAsThieves maybe another network?
KRS1: We have free bait.
KRS1: .bait
MisterE: assbot: lol
MisterE: free fapping material?
MisterE: I like my tits natural tho
KRS1: 24/7 dude.
KRS1: Then just .bait again and fap away.
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: We have lasers.
MisterE: So is Cox dead yet?
ThickAsThieves: MisterE, I run ASICMINER passthroughs and some other things
MisterE: this is like BTC being rid of cancer
ThickAsThieves: i recognize your name too
KRS1: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
ThickAsThieves: ;;roulette
gribble: *click*
MisterE: ahh ok
MisterE: ;;eath
gribble: Error: "eath" is not a valid command.
MisterE: I'm regged with gribble from #bitcoin-otc
KRS1: you are definately in the right channel then
MisterE: what site has the best charts?
MisterE: bitcinwisdom?
MisterE: bitcoinwisdom?
KRS1: good chart analysis for Bitcoin can be had at tradingview.com..its easy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00085459 = 7.6059 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: yeah i like bitwiz and tradingviews
MisterE: does traditional SA work with BTC?
MisterE: haha
MisterE: thats the answer I had arrived at
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43899 @ 0.00085242 = 37.4204 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: in tradinviews, is there a way to get it to always show the date you are hovering over
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3301 @ 0.00085167 = 2.8114 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04540014 = 0.1362 BTC [-]
MisterE: hmm tradingview does commodities and all kinds of stuff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00085793 = 16.987 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02757037 = 0.7168 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.55 = 3.3 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 59 @ 0.0047799 = 0.282 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1010 @ 0.00019543 = 0.1974 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.55 = 2.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00534 = 0.1335 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02740001 = 0.274 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Murder-for-Hire, the most sensationalistic and damning allegation of the government, was NOT a formal charge in the arraignment of Ross Ulbricht yesterday. When Ross stood up and pled “not guilty” to each indictment presented by the judge, there was no mention of murder at all. We have always known this claim was false. Now it is merely an “uncharged crime,” a component of the
ThickAsThieves: drug conspiracy charge."
MisterE: you'll see no retractions though, he's gone forever
MisterE: let them build a strong case too
MisterE: I always wondered seemed too sensationalist
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.12000001 = 0.96 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12 = 0.36 BTC [-]
moiety: MisterE: it's eauth command not eath to authenticate :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.12 = 0.96 BTC [-]
MisterE: thought to auth with gpg was eauth
MisterE: havent used it in months tho
moiety: yep it didn't work before because there was just a 'u' missing
MisterE: alright, thanks
moiety: np :)
nubbins`: morning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00085856 = 21.7645 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [-]
deadweasel: "MtGox had this problem because they didn.t know about this Bitcoin property. And for most of the time transactions were not deliberately modified by anyone, so it was okay for most of the time."
the20year3: Translation "We gave away some bitcoin instead of magic cards, lolz sry k thxbye
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14669 @ 0.00085845 = 12.5926 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.077 = 0.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.07871428 = 0.551 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: anyone who has usd/btc in gox should be ashamed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.19376446 = 1.9376 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
mod6: nubbins`: srsly.
ozbot: A Scientific Explanation of How Marijuana Causes the Munchies | Science | Smithsonian
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.079 = 1.343 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0736 = 0.368 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12909 @ 0.00085959 = 11.0964 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.1212 = 1.5756 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Bitcoin Charts / Markets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4213 @ 0.00085959 = 3.6215 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 18 @ 0.19376446 = 3.4878 BTC [+]
ozbot: Carl Icahn Drops Apple Buyback Proposal - MoneyBeat - WSJ
nubbins`: huh, HKD and USD
nubbins`: anxbtc.com, "YOUR MOST TRUSTED BITCOIN EXCHANGE"
nubbins`: i feel like i've heard that before...
nubbins`: ugh, "ANXPRO now supports Dogecoins!"
ThickAsThieves: twitch beats facebook
ThickAsThieves: america is gonna be SO fat
ThickAsThieves: legal weed, people watching people play video games, etc
KRS1: aint it great
ozbot: One million broadcasters strong, Twitch surpasses Facebook in peak traffic | The Verge
KRS1: you should see my drag car..gets 10 miles to the gallon. oh and my favorite food is cheeseburger
ThickAsThieves: Twitch even beats Hulu, they must be crying
nubbins`: TIL what twitch is
Duffer1: someone should work on getting twitch broadcasters to accept btc donation
nubbins`: maybe that someone is you!
ThickAsThieves: rally the reddites!
Duffer1: i'd love to actually, but i have nothing to donate to help them see how it works hehe
ThickAsThieves: neither do they
ThickAsThieves: but so what
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1212 = 0.3636 BTC [+]
nubbins`: kakobrekla: i just told my wife about niggers.txt
nubbins`: she was in the middle of writing a proposal that she had "temporarily" named "beat-off.doc"
nubbins`: i advised her to rename ;(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00019042 = 0.3808 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: 1Enjoy1C4bYBr3tN4sMKxvvJDqG8NkdR4Z is sending random dust to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
ThickAsThieves: maybe it's liberated gox monety
moiety: i keep getting told "it's a thing!" but no explanation on niggers.txt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00086089 = 17.39 BTC [+]
moiety: i like how the address is 'enjoy' ThickAsThieves
nubbins`: kako accidentally sent a file to some clients with that name
moiety: ooohhh!
moiety: oh dear, how did that pan out
ThickAsThieves: it was jurov that did it i think
nubbins`: silly euros
usaoscoin: anyone got the link to the options calculator?
ThickAsThieves: namworld had one, i dunno if he kept it up to date though
mike_c: usaoscoin: this one works off the live option prices:
mike_c: but market maker is down right now..
ozbot: Option Analysis - Btc Alpha
usaoscoin: mike_c: big thanks, exactly what I was looking for
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.57999999 = 1.16 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: the video is much less stupid than the headline
mike_c: i had some lulz yesterday reading the logs with people talking about how easy it is to get 9's on a system :)
ThickAsThieves: yesterday;s log was turture
ThickAsThieves: i ended up skimming much of it
mike_c: yes.
ThickAsThieves: torture*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8587 @ 0.00086089 = 7.3925 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: lol bloomberg called the iphone smashers jackasses
ThickAsThieves: guess who writes a great line like this "The news is only the latest in a nearly year-long series of shocks to hit the once seemingly unassailable exchange. "
ThickAsThieves: how is something seemingly unassailable whilst having year of shocks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 120 @ 0.07607165 = 9.1286 BTC [-] {6}
mod6: lol bitcoinrag.
mod6: and fatass has had nohing but epic fuckups since like.. i dunno, 2010?
ThickAsThieves: i guess he does say "once"
ThickAsThieves: we are all unassailable once, after all
nubbins`: i dunno, i was raised roman catholic
nubbins`: afaik i was doomed from the start
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.07479166 = 0.8975 BTC [+] {5}
ThickAsThieves: <@gmaxwell> xiando: as far as mtgox's "proposal" having a stable-txid is handy, and sure we'll add that, in fact here is the code: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/commit/1173eef630783a822d9a709cfbc22ba91880231e
ThickAsThieves: <@gmaxwell> But it does not solve mtgox's problems.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00085386 = 25.9573 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: "Contrary to Mt. Gox’s Statement, Bitcoin is not at fault"
ThickAsThieves: I winder if theyll boot them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12000001 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "There are best practices to think about and account for by those who want to build companies. "
ThickAsThieves: there are?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.19376446 = 2.9065 BTC [+]
the20year3: With as much money as gox had coming in/going out , they should have had a full time seucrity team doing nothing but looking for weaknesses
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02740001 = 0.1096 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00085674 = 16.1924 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02612917 = 0.6271 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.19376446 = 0.7751 BTC [+]
diametric: lol mtgox "its bitcoins fault"
mircea_popescu: who's weeklyglobalresearch.wordpress.com ?
mircea_popescu: diametric let me guess, rettardit ?
chsados-work: has anyone been able to withdrawl btc from btc-e yet?
ThickAsThieves: they have issues too?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.24028439 BTC to 1`293 shares, 95923 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is, of course, that
ozbot: Hey Activeminers? You won't make your investment back.
punkman: btc-e goxed themselves too?
mircea_popescu: punkman they're being run upon.
ThickAsThieves: i have some altcoins there, that's about it
mircea_popescu: chsados-work very few people here actually traded there, afaik. but they seem to be having some sort of problem
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 115 @ 0.0055 = 0.6325 BTC
ThickAsThieves: CoinDesk Removes Mt. Gox from Bitcoin Price Index
ThickAsThieves: it's happening!
mircea_popescu: ah this is so sweet.
mircea_popescu: definitely sweeter than the glbse thing.
mike_c: bitcoinaverage had a button to remove gox price from inception. can't wait for them to die, it will be better than SR dying.
mircea_popescu: anyone know the beauty and wonder that is mincemeat pie ?
ThickAsThieves: never had it whilst a carnivore
mircea_popescu: it's like lobster : so good it's illegal in some jurisdictions
joecool: and to think, lobster used to be poor man's food
mircea_popescu: so did this
mircea_popescu: well, technically, heretic's food
mircea_popescu: meat and fruit is an eastern combo, seeing how they had little choice in many places : either eat the figs or eat no veggies.
ThickAsThieves: the only seabugs i ever brang myself to eat were shrimp and perriwinkles
mircea_popescu: no lobster, ssly ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.076 = 0.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.119 = 0.238 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: the smell makes me not hungry
ThickAsThieves: and scallops make me ill
ThickAsThieves: just the smell
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00280185 = 0.2522 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
deadweasel: roaches of the sea. i tried lobster again sicne I'm in Maine, but still, no stars, no amazing flavour, nothing. just sea cockroach meat.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
deadweasel: marketing
ThickAsThieves: might be a taste bud, olefactory genetic thing
ThickAsThieves: also your brain is way smarter then you when it comes to cravings
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 422 @ 0.00079109 = 0.3338 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 422 @ 0.00078913 = 0.333 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2451 @ 0.00077295 = 1.8945 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.07733333 = 0.232 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1004 @ 0.0007 = 0.7028 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: scallops are iffy in that they're really no good preserved
mircea_popescu: fresh from the hands of a greek chick i nthe water... diff story.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel that's the problem with you wisconsin goodfolk. you obviously lack some of the tastebuds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 407 @ 0.0007 = 0.2849 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.0055 = 0.352 BTC [+]
deadweasel: actualloy, the scallops I had in greece were excellent, I forgot about those.
deadweasel: actual alloy, the most real metal of our time.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, you're having paint in painted containers and think o i don't like lobster/scallops/etc
mircea_popescu: tis not true.
ThickAsThieves: i enjoyed the olives in Cyprus
mircea_popescu: i tried once octopus in oil in some can
mircea_popescu: i nearly lost it
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: you're probaly right. the fresh shrimp aren't so bad, but I'll always prefer a grassfed beef cow.
mircea_popescu: that thing was the most objectionable piece of well used tyre
mircea_popescu: deadweasel the difference being chiefly that you know the people who serve the prime beef, but not the others
deadweasel: ha, yes, fresh octo is excellent! spear fished some in greece at breakfast time, at them at lunch
punkman: there's this restaurant in Barcelona that only serves food out of cans
deadweasel: it's true, I get my beef from a local farmer, it's not gray, it's actually Red!
mircea_popescu: yeah. gray meat wtf is that.
deadweasel: my body says no.. tried to eat store bought bacon this weekend, one bite, pitched it all in the garbage.
mircea_popescu: punkman you mean they cook already opened cans or do you mean they offer a selection of stuff like canned tennis balls etc ?
punkman: no mostly just open it, dump it on a plate and serve
mircea_popescu: deadweasel "oh, beef is horrible, tastes like bugs to me" derp
punkman: the canned goods sections in Spanish supermarkets are huge, they just love the stuff
mircea_popescu: some stuff is actually better canned
deadweasel: lol, i see what you did there.
mircea_popescu: corned beef say
deadweasel: ^ nom
benkay: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
punkman: fish in sauce in a can always tastes awful for me
mircea_popescu: jesus god
mircea_popescu: lol i just had this idea for a short. typical airline interior, superhot stewardess, seamed stockings
mircea_popescu: suddenly she opens the hatch, pulls out a fishing cane
mircea_popescu: casts in the ocean
mircea_popescu: gotta prepare the lunch...
mircea_popescu: prolly decent ad for some airline somewhere
punkman: deadweasel, catching an octopus is just a great way to start the day
ozbot: Octopussy (1983) - IMDb
mircea_popescu: ^ great way to end the day
punkman: I'm gonna make some octopus stew tomorrow, maybe blog the recipe
mircea_popescu: you got a blog ?
punkman: not a recent one
punkman: but I gotta start writing again, maybe recipes will get me in the mood
mircea_popescu: also there are a bunch of terrines which you pretty much prefer canned...
mircea_popescu: and there's all the various caviar etc.
mircea_popescu: i guess you could run quite a kickass restaurant on cans only
punkman: mircea_popescu: they got pretty good reviews, http://www.yelp.com/biz/quimet-and-quimet-barcelona
jcpham: thankfully mtgox is here to save us from this whole bitcoin fuckup
mircea_popescu: just like last time right ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 64 @ 0.0055 = 0.352 BTC
jcpham: good 'ol bestgox to save the day
mircea_popescu: "Carrer del Poeta Cabanyes, 25"
mircea_popescu: dude that's a fucking address. why can't i have an address like that.
mircea_popescu: "i live at 19, the career of the herpyderp poet". sounds like it's from the adventures of knownot
joecool: "i live in a cardboard box down the street next to the guy who lives in a shoe"
joecool: etc
joecool: US census still has a "draw a picture of your address" section
mircea_popescu: (nikolai nosov book, neznaika)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00019262 = 0.1926 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.0008585 = 15.6247 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 273 @ 0.0055 = 1.5015 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81019 @ 0.00086015 = 69.6885 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.047 = 0.47 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: okay, the first to name a 90 year old blind general that took part in actual field hostilities gets 1000 ALTs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00085747 = 17.4066 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: mark karpeles
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.19376446 = 3.8753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00085997 = 22.4452 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.55600014 = 1.668 BTC [-] {2}
Mats_cd03: 'murican robert lee?
ThickAsThieves: William "Billy" Guste Jr.
ThickAsThieves: wait he wasnt blind
ThickAsThieves: was trying to find an old attorney general
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.000195 = 0.1755 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.047 = 0.282 BTC [-]
ozbot: Fish on Wheels - YouTube
mike_c: find/replace with 13,000 hits: sublime text ran for 15 minutes before i killed it. sed took < 1 second.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9364 @ 0.00085772 = 8.0317 BTC [-]
punkman: mice_c, old age and treachery
wao-ender: mike_c: do it in haskell!
mike_c: sed is probably written in haskell. much speed.
mod6: mircea_popescu: was it Enrico Dandolo?
mod6: From the 4th Crusade?
Mats_cd03: yeah thats it
Mats_cd03: now mod6 can retire to a private island
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 155 @ 0.0055 = 0.8525 BTC
punkman: ThickAsThieves: they aren't saying much, http://www.centralbank.gov.cy/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=13239
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 24 @ 0.0055 = 0.132 BTC
mircea_popescu: mod6 wd!
mircea_popescu: post an addy will you
mod6: \o/ ty, Sir.
mod6: Sure thing
mod6: 1G34X8K9LYsZMn4dQ4e7HFe5V127zV6Ln6
kakobrekla: just keep it at pankakaes wallet
mircea_popescu: 1G34X8K9LYsZMn4dQ4e7HFe5V127zV6Ln6 pankkake pls to pay 1k atc
mod6: tyvm :D
mircea_popescu: this was fun.
mod6: *nod*
nubbins`: mincemeat pie
nubbins`: closest i've had is shepherd's pie, which i suspect is not the same at all
nubbins`: mince pies have pastry tops, yes?
kakobrekla: if everyone uses pankake we dont even need blockchain at all
kakobrekla: that would be a real revolution i saa
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yep
mircea_popescu: the rape of the pankkake ?
kakobrekla: save on hashpower and hdds
mike_c: a centralized altcoin. there's an innovation for you.
mike_c: the blockchain is log.bitcoin-assets.com
nubbins`: speaking of seafood
nubbins`: cuttlefish jerky was big in korea
nubbins`: i developed a fondness for it
nubbins`: served with hot mayonnaise, natch
kakobrekla: lol true dat mike
kakobrekla: might have to shut it down now!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC
mjr_: so...
mjr_: is gox finally dead
mjr_: ?
kakobrekla: yeah they self killed themselfs
nubbins`: ehh, it's been dead for a while. still coughs up blood every now and again tho
kakobrekla: its been dead yea, bit people want to belie
kakobrekla: believe
kakobrekla: dammit, but people want to believe, is what i meant to say
nubbins`: bit people do as well
deadweasel: pankkakechain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00544001 = 0.1034 BTC [-]
deadweasel: sounds like a sex act of dubious value
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> ehh, it's been dead for a while. still coughs up blood every now and again tho <<
mircea_popescu: you should see the fucktarded "press".
mircea_popescu: "bitcoin defaults"
deadweasel: lol at comment: This is surprising.
deadweasel: So a guy who calls himself "Magical Tux" and describes himself as "PHP Developer working on some weird stuff, like a mail server (POP3/IMAP4/SMTP) written in PHP" was not able to build a reliable worldwide exchange?
nubbins`: "weird stuff"
ozbot: Mt. Gox tries to pin its own incompetence on Bitcoin bug | ExtremeTech
Duffer1: hurray for extremetech
asciilifeform: so 'gox == btc' is still being farted out by Fucktard Press
deadweasel: fuckit
deadweasel: ;;fuckit
gribble: Error: "fuckit" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform will be for a while
nubbins`: Fucktard Press, Inc.
mircea_popescu: glbse = finance had been the rallying cry of the walking dead all through 2012
asciilifeform: prediction: a 'new, exciting' replacement, similar to gox circa 2012, will be inserted in its place
asciilifeform: once Fucktard Finance, Inc. cranks one out
nubbins`: a division of Fucktard Global
mircea_popescu: no wai, yo uthink ?!
asciilifeform: can't wait to see what other 'bugs' in the protocol 'must be fixed!' before 'our children and the homeland are safe'
asciilifeform: puzzle: why is gox not involved with alt-scams? i thought this was 'mandatory' for Fucktard Finance Inc. now.
deadweasel: did they ever implement litcoin?? Their saying they 'might' is involvment with altscams.
diametric: they did not
mike_c: hehe. fucktard press quotes could be as good as coinion. "bitcoin fatal flaw: transactions can't be reversed"
Duffer1: lol
ozbot: Once You Use Bitcoin You Can't Go 'Back' — And That's Its Fatal Flaw | Wired Opinion | Wired.com
asciilifeform: it is quite odd that gox never rolled out 'goxcoin'
diametric: At least some people seem to see through mtgox's bullshit
nubbins`: asciilifeform, i groan at the number of exchanges that support altscams
ozbot: Suicide Bomber Instructor Blows Up Suicide Bombers-In-Training
nubbins`: "hey a new canadian exchange! great!"
nubbins`: "...oh, they support doge"
mircea_popescu: mike_c they been running that shit since about 2012
mircea_popescu: something awful's talking points.
mircea_popescu: diametric from the get-go the entire scamset (mtgox and bfl and pirate and etc) were working together under the guise of the foundation thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'bitcoin magazine' gang?
mircea_popescu: not particularly accidental that they vouched for the bfl scam, not happenstance that they still are covering for vessenes' frauds
nubbins`: i tell ya, the time is ripe for the Bitcoin Authority to rear its head
mircea_popescu: not coincidental that they're trying to cover for gox now.
nubbins`: shrem, karpopopopopolel, etc
mircea_popescu: and not at all unrelated to how we just ain't friends.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myea.
asciilifeform: if these folks had half a brain, they'd be pushing the 'altscam to rule them all' about now.
mircea_popescu: now and again i take one of their guys, send him flying through three sheets of frozen glass, distribute the photos. it's really a lot of fun.
asciilifeform: complete with master keys (bonus if hidden), artificial infusions of fiat to pump up 'value', collaboration with governments...
jurov: who tf names their company coinsulting?
mircea_popescu: jurov ahaha they done got your nigger.txt one better
nubbins`: co-insulting
jurov: just got borderline lulzy spam from them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they be kids.
jurov: Our firm Coinsulting Ltd. is first Crypto consulting agency specializing on compliance services for Bitcoin businesses. We advise our clients how to do their business legally all around the world. On March 22nd 2014, we are organizing a Bitcoin event in Shanghai, China called BTCrisis conference.
asciilifeform: 'expertSexchange'
mircea_popescu: jurov conveniently omitting to name any of those clients which they advised
nubbins`: i dunno
mircea_popescu: was it what, bitfunder ? mtgox ? coinwhateveritwas ?
nubbins`: you trust a guy who sits on one of those, you deserve what you get
mircea_popescu: nubbins` when you're fat and you dork with computers a lot your lower back suffers.
nubbins`: sure, so stand up
nubbins`: you can tell he's forced the other guy to sit on one, too
asciilifeform: that rubber ball isn't a medical cure, it's a 'silicon valley' fucktard inc. 'dog whistle' signal.
nubbins`: "take a seat"
jurov: If you are interested in becoming a Coinsultant, this is a right time for you. Coinsulting family is growing same as Crypto Currencies do. In case you consider yourself being the right one, please send us your CV at careers@coinsulting.net
nubbins`: balls everywhere
jurov: hahahahaha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it forces you to constantly adjust your vertical. it helps.
asciilifeform: wonder if andreesen horowitz (or whoever) actually issues those balls...
mircea_popescu: they probably have an approved brand
asciilifeform: i imagine it came out of somewhere quasi-rational, sure. but it seems to have this other purpose now, as well.
jurov: prolly i'll advise to rename themselves to coinslutants
benkay: sitting on a ball isn't going to fix the health problem of being obese.
wao-ender: coinsluts, right.
nubbins`: how he'll die young with good posture
benkay: fuckin priorities do you got 'em?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no argument, more dogwhistle than anything by now
benkay: FUKKEN PRIORITIES!!!@1!
mircea_popescu: benkay i never fucked Priorities, no. is she hawt ?
nubbins`: hot, but always busy
asciilifeform: eventually the ball will go out of fashion, and they will move to those treadmill-plus-laptop gadgets or somesuch.
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: I think I've seen all of these...moar plz.
asciilifeform: any 'teledildonics' experts here? what's the state-of-the-art in exercise-powered diddling machines
nubbins`: ;;ud mwh
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=MWH+yo | ... home Nolifing WoW. mark as favorite buy nolifing mugs & shirts · computer games 1337 video speak by MWH yo January 31, 2009 add a video add an image ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Author MWH yo
nubbins`: asciilifeform, using a laptop on a treadmill is brutal
asciilifeform: nubbins`: could be made to work. 'chording keyboard' in the handlebars.
nubbins`: there ya go
kakobrekla: and move mouse with your dick
nubbins`: the whole "laptop tray across the bars" thing doesn't work
nubbins`: no arm support
nubbins`: bad for your neck too
mircea_popescu: nubbins` but what if you were solidly anchored in a 9 inch solid steel
mircea_popescu: buttplug ?
asciilifeform: ocular in place of laptop screen.
nubbins`: then you better not stop walking :D
mircea_popescu: could even have the error ding as a vibration
benkay: i want my display on one six-axis arm, and my kb on another. then i want the controller to optimize positioning of kb and monitor indpendently to optimize my posture.
benkay: and i want this thing to follow me everywhere.
mircea_popescu: and i want to shoot benkay
benkay: outta mah FACE
mircea_popescu: shot shot
mircea_popescu: in da butt
benkay: go home mircea_popescu you're drunk
mircea_popescu: drunk@home
mircea_popescu: should be a tumblr
nubbins`: distributed drinking
pankkake: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2014#495235 looks like everything he uses turns out to be a scam
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
ozbot: Canadian shot in Dominican Republic as Manitoba students watch - Manitoba - CBC News
pankkake: also, ATC sent to mod6
nubbins`: guy gets shot NINE TIMES while cracking heads
ozbot: Google Drive
mircea_popescu: pankkake some peeps are lucky like that
mircea_popescu: you can usually recognise them by how they rant @mpoe-pr
mod6: thx pankkake!
ozbot: Why Mt. Gox is full of shit - joepie91's Ramblings
pankkake: interesting, blaming Bitcoin, like bitfunder
asciilifeform: the otherwise-inconsequential 'tx id' shenanigans: is that how satoshidice was pwned?
mircea_popescu: inb4 karpeles comes out in march with a "well we can't say anything but not even bitfunder said anything yet so"
asciilifeform: (if i recall, they fed their PRNG tx id for a seed)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was sd pwned ?
the20year3: Who's running a scam?
asciilifeform: pwned in the sense of certain people taking home astronomically-improbable winnings
nubbins`: the20year3, almost everyone
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, you're right
mircea_popescu: not quite afaik
the20year3: is this TAT's fund or someone else's?
mircea_popescu: the20year3 follow the link eh. it's some greg guy on the forum
wao-ender: v0v, so, gox is out of business by delisting from price trackers, imma right?
diametric: gox will live on as people trade non-existent bitcoins internal to their platform.
mircea_popescu: wao-ender end of the road for them yea
mircea_popescu: in a sense they had been slowly being decoupled from btc economy since april 2013.
wao-ender: end of line (c) Tron.
mircea_popescu: it was well managed in that the eventual final shock surprised/shocked no one
asciilifeform: they'll simply 'repay' their chumps in 'goxcoin', as soon as mr. k gets gcc working on his box.
wao-ender: yeah, also I was well played, controlled implosion.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can you even compile gcc in php ?
asciilifeform: they'll use that online 'alcoin generator', as soon as it gets a '100% premined' ticky-box in the menu.
Dimsler_: karples that fat fucking nerd
Dimsler_: can't way till hes out of the fucking picture
asciilifeform: 'ponzigen.com' ?
asciilifeform: or, for the techno-trendiness points, 'mkponzi'
asciilifeform: for extra fee, will pump (and dump) automagically...
wao-ender: these guys http://cryptortrust.com/ looks like scam to me. Do someone know them?
twizt: wao-ender:
pankkake: Cryptor Trust Inc. ‘s <- can't use correct typography, scam
twizt: do u trust ur own financial advisor
jurov: in coinslutants we trust
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.047 = 0.658 BTC [-]
benkay: in sluts we trust.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04897954 = 0.2939 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: <the20year3> is this TAT's fund or someone else's? ---- it was referring to Dr Greg
deadweasel: ;;getrating slut-trust
ThickAsThieves: i'm no longer destitute
ThickAsThieves: i haz ATCs
deadweasel: not destitute, prostitute
ThickAsThieves: "The only way to quickly buy bitcoins requires cash: a consuming, hastle-prone step." how you know an article is garbage
pankkake: ;;ud slut
pankkake: well it would have shown "a woman with the morals of a man"
ThickAsThieves: "Even at a 10 billion dollar market cap — the peak achieved by Beanie Babies in 1999 — bitcoin is almost irrelevant in financial terms."
pankkake: "Someone who provides a very needed service for the community"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves who's that ?
mircea_popescu: i need a name.
mircea_popescu: for my little black book.
asciilifeform: pederasts.txt ?
pankkake: you might want to do a whilelist instead
ThickAsThieves: @NCWeaver
mircea_popescu: nicholas Weaver
mircea_popescu: pankkake but i don't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, just preparing the workrolls for the uranium mines of the future.
ThickAsThieves: wot does that
mircea_popescu: kiddos born in the "you can do anything" utopia have little idea just how much impact deeds and misdeeds actually have on their own future.
asciilifeform: aha. plenty of yellow mud left at Butugichag for these folks.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00298729 = 0.4182 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.02501001 = 0.4002 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.557 BTC [+]
benkay: yikes.
the20year3: I haven't read much on dr greg
ThickAsThieves: he says a lot of words when he talk
ThickAsThieves: he's probably Deprived when sober
the20year3: In my brother's short 15 minute conversation with DHL ,the rep/head sure did seem to understand the massive benefit to acceptance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13513 @ 0.00086072 = 11.6309 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: generally it's not that they don't understand the benefits of acceptance.
moiety: evenin'
mircea_popescu: generally it's that they don't understand the benefits of submission
mircea_popescu: they can't put up with the notion that much smarter, much better people are there to lead them, so they end up with issues such as starting alt coins,
mircea_popescu: "waiting for adoption"
mircea_popescu: etc etc.
mircea_popescu: moiety heya
benkay: o/ moiety
moiety: how are we all and am i speaking in the correct language today?
mircea_popescu: ja je bent
davout: spreek jij ook nu nederlands heh?
davout: leuk
mircea_popescu: een beetje :D
mike_c: damn, JD investors kicking ass last few months. nov/dec/jan returns are 4%, 5.2%, 6.5%
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 0 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 0.00 mio bets, 0.00 mio BTC wagered
Duffer1: nokawa stop gambling?
pankkake: I think so
mircea_popescu: mike_c did it reach ev yet or notrly ?
pankkake: Doge-Dice looks even more profitable than Just-Dice though :p
mike_c: it's been tracking pretty closely last few months
mircea_popescu: arguably the jd risk is actually > mpbond risk
mircea_popescu: then again i guess arguably the reverse is true too
mike_c: hm. how would you argue that? :)
mircea_popescu: which of the two ?
mike_c: jd risk > mpbor risk
mike_c: i know how to quantify jd risk. mpbor i'm still floundering a bit..
mircea_popescu: jd bot takes 1% margin. mpbot takes significantly more.,
mjr_: mircea_popescu: i just saw you have a euro future, nice
mjr_: was wondering what the index was for options now
nubbins`: i had a dream that i visited romania last night
nubbins`: very nice country, lots of red roofs
mircea_popescu: mjr_ same as always, bitcoincahrts
mike_c: that's only one piece of the risk though, volatility on mpbor is so unpredictable.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` there are.
mjr_: mircea_popescu: does that include gox then?
davout: mircea_popescu: i'd argue it's easier to measure the risk on something random, uniformly distributed than on something chaotic
mircea_popescu: mike_c i did say "arguably" did i
mike_c: yes
mircea_popescu: davout how do you know it's uniformly distributed in the first place ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mjr_ not anymore afaik
davout: the JD rolls
mircea_popescu: yes, the jd rolls.
davout: aren't they?
moiety: Ik moet deze taal kennen. Ik ben geboren in Nederland. nokawa is the whale high roller man right?
mircea_popescu: that's not the point lol. how do you know they are ?
mike_c: but the risk on JD is all about the whales
mike_c: and they are not uniformly distributed
davout: moiety: waar in nederland ?
davout: mircea_popescu: because of the way it's computed
mircea_popescu: what, a wizard did it ?
mircea_popescu: either show it or don't show it.
mike_c: but rolls != volatility. rolls being uniformly distributed does not mean returns will be predictable.
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 13119 BTC profit, 40.1k BTC invested, 611.46 mio bets, 4.97 mio BTC wagered
mircea_popescu: mike_c even sidestepping the whale issue. who told you that the way they compute is actually uniformly distributed ?
mircea_popescu: whoa that's awful, -70% ?
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 13119 / 49700
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.119 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
mike_c: the only concern for an investor would be that their computation method has an exploitable flaw
davout: what i'm trying to say is that the returns on JD are based on something random, on which you can use statistics to infer stuff, on the other hand, market prices are not random, but chaotic, hence it not being comparable
mike_c: that is greater than 1% edge.
mjr_: still looks like mt gox is part of bitcoincharts
mjr_: but i haven't verified it yet
mircea_popescu: davout just because something is based on something random you can't actually proclaim it uniform tho
mircea_popescu: f(x) = x + rnd(x) is based on something random and quite biased
mjr_: its listed under USD markets...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.55092307 = 7.162 BTC [-] {5}
davout: the distribution is irrelavant, what i'm saying is that there is one
mircea_popescu: ok so there is one.
davout: whereas on chaotic values there is no distribution, no mean, no standard deviation etc
mircea_popescu: what are you, like new ?
davout: talk to me like i'm five, or a golden retriever for that matter
mircea_popescu: any set has a mean.
davout: any finite set has a mean
mircea_popescu: once it has a mean, any element of that set has a sdev
mircea_popescu: what, you're proposing jd is working on infinite sets ?
davout: no, i'm saying there are fundamental differences in random values, and chaotic values
davout: s/in/between/
mircea_popescu: such as ?
jurov: jd game will always be between 1 and 65565
jurov: whereas bitcoin price ?
davout: them not obeying the usual laws of statistics
mike_c: yeah, but nobody cares what the rolls are, we care about investor returns.
mircea_popescu: what is this, mysticity ?
davout: hang on, gonna fish that book about chaos i read a while ago, really really interesting read
mircea_popescu: jurov but any option will be worth between itself and nothing
mike_c: it only matters if investor returns on JD are predictable. which 1) they are if there are a bunch of small bettors, 2) they are not if there are whales.
mircea_popescu: anyway. this discussion is not really resolvable, hence the arguables early on
mircea_popescu: we could talk about it 4evar
mike_c: before we shut it down, i've been trying to figure out how mpbor capital needs are calculated.
mike_c: you confused me the other day when you said the put sales didn't trigger a capital need by mpoe
benkay: largest amount of btc needed to cover positions over the course of the month, right?
mike_c: oh, so it only triggers a capital need if the price moves adversely?
mircea_popescu: mike_c i said that ?!
davout: mircea_popescu: this guy, read it if you haven't already -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos:_Making_a_New_Science
mircea_popescu: benkay yes.
mircea_popescu: mike_c say wut ?
mike_c: i will fish it out of logs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73750 @ 0.00085915 = 63.3623 BTC [-] {5}
benkay: chaos theory is the best theory
nubbins`: nonlinear differential equations
davout: o/
nubbins`: did a course on them in uni
nubbins`: fun stuff
benkay: indeed indeed
benkay: fun programming exercise: make a thing that demonstrates "real" chaos
nubbins`: aha, found a casascius buyer!
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
nubbins`: these things actually turned out to be a pretty good investment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00085677 = 32.2146 BTC [-] {3}
mike_c: mircea_popescu:nah cause they're sales see << maybe you were referring to something else
jurov: these options were covered by seller, not by mpoe
mike_c: right, but mpoe had to buy them, where did that money come from?
nubbins`: doge
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah seriously.
mircea_popescu: whosoever sells an option has first to create it, which takes collateral. in the case of mpbot this goes into its collateral needs for the month.
mircea_popescu: whosoever buys an option must has the btc to pay for it. in the case of mpbot this goes into its collateral needs for the month
mircea_popescu: at the end of the month the widest berth of that collateral need is taken as "the needed collatera" figure
mike_c: ok, so by purchasing those options it did trigger a capital need that bondholders will collect interest on. right?
mike_c: k, thx
mircea_popescu: Feb 04 22:05:18 <jurov>!t m ^oix
mircea_popescu: Feb 04 22:05:19 <jurov>..computing...
mircea_popescu: Feb 04 22:05:19 <assbot>[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 122.22370491 / 121.39535668 / 120.63410743 (14 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: Feb 04 22:05:57 <mircea_popescu>nah cause they're sales see
mircea_popescu: it was in response to jurov's command. they wouldn't show in oix cause they're sales.
nubbins`: supposing there's a month where no collateral is needed, bondholders collect no interest?
mircea_popescu: just like you know, if nobody plays on jd for a month investors collect no interest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2494 @ 0.00018991 = 0.4736 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00543898 = 0.1849 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1228 @ 0.00018992 = 0.2332 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02501002 = 0.1251 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00019676 = 0.1968 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.57998273 = 2.8999 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58499977 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.077 = 0.385 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.118 = 0.236 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.11916666 = 0.3575 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
mike_c: too bad nobody seems to put on that play. watching the movie instead seems like a bad idea.
nubbins`: what play
Shakespeare: The devil hath power to assume a pleasing shape.
mike_c: merchant of venice.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.078 = 0.39 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: Bitcoin Conversion Now Live - Search Blog
nubbins`: was about to lel @ .aspx until i noticed the domain
dub: the fuck is bing
nubbins`: microsoft google
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-]
dub: yeah but
mircea_popescu: mike_c the al pacino movie is almost ok
mircea_popescu: but the play itself is great.
nubbins`: they were the first search engine to do thumbnail video previews!
asciilifeform: when do we get 'microshit coin' ?
mircea_popescu: yet there's no search engine doing gif video encoding on teh fly
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, a loss for us all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform never because fuctards are more interested in "saving the world" in the shape of doing something or the other in africa
nubbins`: meantime, GIMP is capable gif creator
Shakespeare: actually
nubbins`: you append the name of each layer with a time in milliseconds
nubbins`: e.g. Layer1 (5ms)
nubbins`: save as .gif
Shakespeare: Bill Gates: "Over the next 5 years I think digital money will catch on in India and parts of Africa and help the poorest a lot."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
Shakespeare: The motions of his spirit are as dull as night..
mircea_popescu: it's just two lines in an awk
mircea_popescu: but most of the world doesn't have linux cause they live in the poor world which gates helped.
nubbins`: oh hey, look
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall your essay on 'the cost of linux' ?
BingoBoingo: Shylock should have been the hero
asciilifeform: or was that here in the channel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. nevertheless, insteaf of teaching the fucktarded horde to chant "white privilege" "global warming" "feed the hungry"
mircea_popescu: you could just as well teach them to chant "ffmpeg" "awk" "youtube-dt" etc
mircea_popescu: purely arbitrary what they chant.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo shylock was the hero.
mircea_popescu: who do you figure the hero was, portia ?
mircea_popescu: she's just "nature"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, he lost in that travesty of fiat justice at the end
mircea_popescu: nah nah not at all.
BingoBoingo: I figured the hero was the storms that sunk the ships
asciilifeform: bonus points for anybody who can crap out a scripting language where all valid proggys are chantable.
mircea_popescu: portia ie athena points out to him that mere words without context decay into meaninglessness
mircea_popescu: "have you a surgeon ? " "tis not in the bond"
asciilifeform: (herr moldbug sort of tried this, half-heartedly)
mircea_popescu: "neither is any leverage for blood spilling on the ground"
mircea_popescu: in this she has a point, and so shylock has learned something new about contracts.
BingoBoingo: I haven't thought much about that play in about a decade
mircea_popescu: it's actually very deep
mircea_popescu: just, the ripeness of its depth is not directly observable for bitcoin noobs
mircea_popescu: which is... everyone up until 2012 or so
mircea_popescu: but otherwise... this is art, that's how you know it : you only find out later hw deep it really was.
asciilifeform: the 'eternally noobile' are almost a species unto themselves.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00085547 = 2.8231 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bassaro and the other ghuy are mere puppets, nessie even says to her guy
mircea_popescu: "you're lucky i'm not hearing you"
mircea_popescu: i say this to my slaves all the time.
Shakespeare: maybe you'd prefer, "have your mouth fill'd up. Before you open it."
mircea_popescu: words in principle are meaningless, and cultural references idem could serve both a thesis and its anti
mircea_popescu: ("a new daniel has come!" "a daniel, thank you for teaching me a new word!")
mircea_popescu: which is why self-enforcing contracts are such ridiculous nonsense.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.0008611 = 5.6833 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;seen namworld
pankkake: ;;seen gribble
deadweasel: davout: read that when I was 18, changed everything.
Dimsler_: lol
Dimsler_: i got 2 of those
Dimsler_: long haired
Apocalyptic: deadweasel, you read what ?
pizzaman1337: Apocalyptic: davout mentioned this earlier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos:_Making_a_New_Science
ozbot: Chaos: Making a New Science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Apocalyptic: missed the link, thanks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0765 = 0.153 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.118 = 0.236 BTC [-]
davout: Apocalyptic pizzaman1337 deadweasel this book is really really awesome, order it now, do it
davout: (for those who haven't read it already :-) )
Shakespeare: Mark Zuckerberg, Wife Were Most Generous Philanthropists In 2013
deadweasel: in fact, buy two, give one to an idiot.
deadweasel: or loved one, or both, should that be the case
Shakespeare: Hide not thy poison with such sugar'd words, Mark.
Shakespeare: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 1488.827797 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.98359423544 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00085649 = 29.292 BTC [-]
Shakespeare: "Michael Gronager, COO from Kraken, a U.S.-based exchange that currently specializes in trading euros for bitcoin, said attacks that exploit transaction malleability have grown rapidly from being almost non-existent in the bitcoin economy a couple of weeks ago to 4,000 false claims for non-payment on Sunday alone."
Shakespeare: specializes in trading euros for bitcoin
Shakespeare: U.S.-based exchange
deadweasel: so it is an auto-bot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 2145 @ 0.0055 = 11.7975 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04824967 = 0.1447 BTC [-]
deadweasel: wisely exploited
Shakespeare: "Okay, dogecoiners, you got us. It may surprise people who don’t even know about bitcoin to learn that there are number of alternative, electronic currencies out there. They include litecoin, Ripples, Mastercoin, Quark, the soon-to-come auroracoin (for Icelanders)…and dogecoin, a newcomer that started out just in December as something of a joke"
Shakespeare: no mention of Altcoin wtf
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.19376446 = 3.8753 BTC [+]
dub: inexcusable
dub: clearly this 'wall street' knows nothing of finance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.121 = 0.363 BTC [+] {3}
Shakespeare: they mentioned Ripples after all
Shakespeare: doge i can understandf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00085904 = 11.4252 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.19376446 = 3.8753 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1215 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.19376446 = 0.7751 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1215 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.053 = 0.106 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 18 @ 0.12175 = 2.1915 BTC [+]
dub: do they have maff in russia
dub: comments..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04897953 = 1.4694 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.12279999 = 1.228 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16585 @ 0.00085868 = 14.2412 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1249 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.125 = 0.25 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: look what i found on rt , since you linked it
kakobrekla: exchange couple of btc and get fucked.
kakobrekla: Espinoza, prosecutors allege, arranged such a deal with an undercover agent in early December in which that officer paid $500 for 0.403 BTC, in turn generating a profit of around $83.67 for the seller. Investigators then arranged for a second transaction to occur days later, that time purchasing 1 BTC for $1,000 and earning Espinoza around $167.56 through fees as a result.
kakobrekla: OH MY 160 bucks terrorists!
dub: cryptoterrorists
dub: a messican and cunukistani, what were they even doing in gods great nation
Shakespeare: shitty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.0549995 = 0.385 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.05504657 = 0.8257 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 12 @ 0.05509999 = 0.6612 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05509999 = 0.2204 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.07271427 = 0.509 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1212 = 0.2424 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.08349998 = 0.501 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: basically this is butthurt over btc not giving a shit.
mircea_popescu: "and then i said to him, we intend to break the us law, your honor, and he said i don't give a shit about this us you speak of"
mircea_popescu: "BURN THE WITCH!!1"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 1 @ 0.6125182 BTC [+]
Duffer1: "and allows for near-perfect anonymity. " uhh...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1760 @ 0.00019089 = 0.336 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 16 @ 0.61133429 = 9.7813 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.0008611 = 0.3444 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Of course, all i am saying is true. Just wait, time will tell. I am not here to scam anyone. Period."
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 10 @ 0.61133429 = 6.1133 BTC [-]
mike_c: ^ it can't go any lower!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00086137 = 18.261 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018992 = 0.1899 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: mebbe not
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the earlier money laundering bs
mircea_popescu: unless the state gets a plea bargain they're going to be humiliated at trial.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no way a judge actually even hears the case of 500 dollars "money laundering"
mircea_popescu: cause some dood sold some online shit
KRS1: ridiculous
Mats_cd03: how optimistic
mircea_popescu: either that or they're getting all the WoW sword of x "money laundering" cases into their state,
mircea_popescu: and they'll never see the end of that docket.
mircea_popescu: then the media frenzy of "the state of florida spent $195,000 taxpayer dollars to harass some random guy playing online, and got laughed out of court for it"
mircea_popescu: "meanwhile we have 8739843 unresolved rapes, murders, arson, kidnapping, robbery and assaults"
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 7 @ 0.61135724 = 4.2795 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but i guess the settlement culture being what it is... they figure they got a shot.
KRS1: Of the 50 states, I'll admit, Florida is different with reguard to legislation..but certainly not the worst. Has something to do with being part of the historical "deep south".
mircea_popescu: regardless of that, tho.
mircea_popescu: it's quite visible what happened there, mongoloid cops went to the da with their "investigation", da told them he won't prosecute
mircea_popescu: so they went back and derped about 57439875983489 dollars and IDENTITY THEFT etc
mircea_popescu: the da hasn't passed on it for w/e reason, but it's hardly a case.
asciilifeform: 'law' is a distinctly poor description of the mechanism at work here
asciilifeform: 'article 58' of the soviet penal code was also 'law,' used in this exact way.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04897952 = 0.1469 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: ('Lettre de cachet' for troublemakers)
mircea_popescu: dude get out.
mircea_popescu: first off, the entire state of florida is not cool enough to issue one single such magical device per annum
mircea_popescu: second off, derpy mc derp, police officer of 88 iq is DEFINITELY not the firestarter there.
asciilifeform: certainly not.
asciilifeform: but you set up the muppet theatre 'with the muppets you have, not the muppets you wish you had.'
mircea_popescu: nah, the entire thing is well... scare the malfeasants for a coupla days, they look dorky, who knows what info they have to share.
mircea_popescu: the proper way a police is run since about 500bc
asciilifeform: 'operative methods,' yes.
asciilifeform: which is why the 'perfect dpr' owns no computer, neither do his friends, and is, in fact: a dentist. (whose name we will never learn.)
jurov: everyone, upon stumbling on the malleable tx myself i can explain where is the problem exactly
mircea_popescu: jurov shoot
jurov: bitcoind listtransactions normally doesn't show duplicates
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22715 @ 0.0008594 = 19.5213 BTC [-]
jurov: er.. double spends
jurov: but it does show diddled txs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know the perfect man joke ?
jurov: even after one of them confirms
jurov: and even in 0.9.0rc1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ?
jurov: so anyone who accepts zeroconf and uses listtransactions is hosed
jurov: there is no indication its the same tx
mircea_popescu: how is this news or anything ?
deadweasel: only to gox
mircea_popescu: amply documented since before i made mpex cause i knew of it at the time
mircea_popescu: "i distinctly remember ppl going no what, seriously ?! you misunderstood something"
KRS1: what was I thinking of..money laundering isn't handled by the state anyway, only the charge could be filed but the prosecution is handled in federal court.
KRS1: Do you guys remember Robocop moviee from the 1980's?
mircea_popescu: KRS1 yup. prolly the policemen get paid regardless, just for making up charges or some shit.
jurov: i didn't knew that, for one. but i am not doing zeroconf anyway
jurov: various dice sites, tho...
KRS1: Yeah exctly.
KRS1: I don't remember this scene from Robocop: http://efukt.com/21126_I_don%27t_remember_this_in_Robocop.html
deadweasel: part of that was filmed in the George r brown convention center in houston,tx
KRS1: Penis everywhere.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46700 @ 0.00085637 = 39.9925 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform new men supermarket opens in a town, where women can come and simply buy themselves a boyfriend. first floor : "Here are guys who like beer and watching tv". 2nd floor : sensitive guys who only want to hug and hang out. 3rd floor : all the women, and a huge panel : This floor only exists to show you you can never be satisfied.
KRS1: haha
mircea_popescu: jurov if you want i can prolly dig up some diddled txn to my addies
deadweasel: would make a nice post, no?
mircea_popescu: incidentally : CORRECTLY DESIGNED BITCOIN SITES, SUCH AS MPEx, that use tx encoding in the payment ARE IMMUNE TO THIS, and many other bugs.
mircea_popescu: for yet another page in the "what's mpex got anyway".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking of:
asciilifeform: "If the reader had access to real dossiers on the secret agents of spetsnaz he would be disappointed and probably shocked, because the agents of spetsnaz bear no resemblance to the fine, upstanding, young and handsome heroes of spy films. Soviet military intelligence is looking for an entirely different type of person as a candidate for recruitment. A portrait of an ideal agent for spetsnaz emerges something li
asciilifeform: ke this: a man of between fifty-five and sixty-five years of age who has never served in the army, never had access to secret documents, does not carry or own a weapon, knows nothing about hand-to-hand fighting, does not possess any secret equipment and doesn't support the Comunists, does not read the newspapers, was never in the Soviet Union and has never met any Soviet citizens, leads a lonely, introspective
asciilifeform: life, far from other people, and is by profession a forester, fisherman, lighthouse-keeper, security guard or railwayman. In many cases such an agent will be a physical invalid. Spetsnaz is also on the lookout for women with roughly the same characteristics."
asciilifeform: (the chapter concerned the recruitment of traitors in the west, rather than 'ninjas')
mircea_popescu: it was abandoned tho, because iirc in the 70s someone in the us finally figured this out
mircea_popescu: did they make a film about it or is it an obscure detail of history ?
asciilifeform: a couple of runaways spilled the beans, yes
mircea_popescu: i tell you they figured it out
asciilifeform: they dug up some boobietraps, made a little noise, that was all.
mircea_popescu: like, on their own
asciilifeform: would surprise me greatly if they hadn't
mircea_popescu: it's the exact equivalent of the caught cia agent joke, you know thatone ?
asciilifeform: but a runaway lets you 'parallel construct' to your heart's delight.
asciilifeform: the one with the staples? or the black spy?
mike_c: re: JD predictability of investor returns. trailing 7 day ROI: http://i.imgur.com/sOotZke.png
asciilifeform: (the staples that failed to rust, was, afaik, a real incident)
mircea_popescu: the black spy yeah
mircea_popescu: mike_c that shit looks exactly like herbi's earlier mpoe stuff
mircea_popescu: ;;last seen herbiomfgwhatwasit
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
mike_c: no way, mine's much prettier
mircea_popescu: ;;seen herbijudlestoids
gribble: herbijudlestoids was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 25 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <herbijudlestoids> k, enjoy your ignorance
mircea_popescu: dun tell me the guy got butthurt over... NUBBINS!
asciilifeform: re: agents: i'd be surprised though, it there is entirely no more 'maintain this derelict shipping container and cafe that nobody goes to and you'll get a little cash in the mail every month'
asciilifeform: likewise, most of the buried treasure probably remains buried.
asciilifeform: (if only because the fools lost the maps where 'x marks the spot.')
dub: he got srsly butthurt about knowing more than everyone else on the internet cause he's been there and it wasnt cool
mircea_popescu: there definitely is some
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15993 @ 0.0001899 = 3.0371 BTC [-] {8}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or because they burried the nut in a dog
mircea_popescu: (you saw that squirrel gif ?)
asciilifeform: one day some bored kid will dig through old soviet crap, find a footnote that leads to a working rpg-7 under a mailbox.
mircea_popescu: or so every bored kid worth his salt dreams :D
asciilifeform: the original 'geocaching.'
KRS1: haha asciilifeform
KRS1: I buried my nut in this girl once..
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: ;;seen ozbot
gribble: ozbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 36 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <ozbot> Why Mt. Gox is full of shit - joepie91's Ramblings
deadweasel: i was born and raised 2 minutes from downtown houston
deadweasel: mani st houston at 4am, you can see anything
deadweasel: main*
deadweasel: used to bike/skate down there, sometimes running from drunken angry men of all colors
deadweasel: white included
deadweasel: sometimes just chillin with them
deadweasel: they so crazy
KRS1: Texas is awesome with regard to weapons legislation and capital crimes punishment.
deadweasel: and general gtfo federal goverment
KRS1: Love that state..plus they have most major telco carrier lines converging in Dallas..makes for an Internet utobpia.
KRS1: utopia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 638 @ 0.00077699 = 0.4957 BTC [-] {7}
deadweasel: didn't google go fiber in OK tho
deadweasel: story of my life
deadweasel: only i fuck up for longer first
KRS1: no..i visited my friend in Dallas and he showed me his hosting location there. His datacenter can switch him from any 1 of like 6 different carrier peering points at any time.
dub: new altcoin byline candidate there, 'I'm sorry, its so strange to be on the internet'
deadweasel: fuck yes
deadweasel: houston is corrupt as all hell
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0258 = 0.258 BTC [+]
KRS1: I was there for about a week..had to set up about 10 VMware hosts, firewall and storage. Went real smooth. I love how the girls talk there, and people seem real nice compared to South Florida.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00085588 = 33.5505 BTC [-] {3}
deadweasel: Texas will rise again. then fall to Bitcoin.
deadweasel: then rise again!
deadweasel: bitches
asciilifeform: texcoin.
KRS1: Texas is indeed an interesting state.
KRS1: havent heard much of that talk lately about texas becoming a sovergn country..they seem big enough =D
deadweasel: it used to be. could be again by law.
KRS1: Makes me think of that ^
KRS1: Burt Reynolds lives like 20 miles from me
deadweasel: can you feel his vibe?
nubbins`: he finds mustache hairs in his cereal daily, no doubt
KRS1: he's got a beautiful estate near the ocean
deadweasel: nubbins`, you chase off herbaljusitoisds?
nubbins`: i guess so
bloctoc: KRS1 there was some talk of succession when Obama was trying to get texas to help pay for the national electricity grid.
nubbins`: he got really upset
deadweasel: fuck obma
deadweasel: fuck herbaljsustoid
nubbins`: because i wasn't fact-checking while chatting
deadweasel: texas fucking honeybadger state
bloctoc: frt - Former Republic of Texas
KRS1: Did you guys see the new version of the Trans Am
bloctoc: succession -> secession
mircea_popescu: lol the us w/o texas would be in a very interesting position
mircea_popescu: pretty much all the oil importing infrastructure is down there
KRS1: Indeed mircea
asciilifeform: afaik, TX is being recolonized by mexico on schedule, just like CA
mircea_popescu: i hear it gets pretty cold up north without texas...
deadweasel: i for one, embrace my hardworking brown friends
mircea_popescu: deadweasel no homo ?
KRS1: haha
deadweasel: usually
KRS1: deadweasel: Mexicans work at my house regularly, they are very hard working respectible and honest people. I admire them and they make great food.
deadweasel: the best food
nubbins`: all of them?
deadweasel: because natural screening is the desert that lies between
deadweasel: only the smart dedicated ones get through
deadweasel: which in part is due to out ultra nationalist xenophonic border property owners which are a small in number.
nubbins`: the usa is a very different country than canada
Duffer1: america. canada's mexico
BingoBoingo: Looks like the Altcoin order book on the kinds shady exchange is starting to fill in https://openex.pw/index.php?page=trade&market=111
nubbins`: Duffer1 XD
Duffer1: i do miss texas though, i grew up in austin
nubbins`: never been
deadweasel: go to austin
deadweasel: it's yoru kinda town
deadweasel: your*
bloctoc: I spent the year before last in San Antonio. I felt like the only white guy around for miles.
deadweasel: it's been 'colonied'
deadweasel: austn is better
deadweasel: colonized*
deadweasel: fuck this keyboard
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo who runs that thing ?
bloctoc: how about repopulated since it was decimated by smallpox way back when...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's r3wt's deal. The questionable dude brought up yesterday.
asciilifeform: still waiting to see an 'mpexian' exchange with no www site, operated entirely by coded TX amounts.
mircea_popescu: bloctoc san antonio is like my favourite us town
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik it's being worked on.
bloctoc: it might be my favorite Texas town, but I moved to San Francisco for a reason
bloctoc: reason being it's way better than Texas
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like a trivial problem, ought to have been done 'last year.'
Duffer1: man, i grew up on The ALAMO!@3 texas history books, and when i finally see it i can't help but think "that's it?"
mircea_popescu: yea well.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 did kinda look like you could piss over it
bloctoc: Someone should sneak up to the roof of the Alamo and take a selfie for selfie olympics
bloctoc: is that you?
mircea_popescu: no, some chick in there
ozbot: The Selfie Olympics - Imgur
Duffer1: i played davy crockett in the school play hehe
Duffer1: i think the set was bigger than the real thing
mircea_popescu: REAL BITCOIN JESUS
mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/oQ23QNY.jpg << ok, her. seize her and bring her to me.
Duffer1: that's impressive
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.57987947 = 1.1598 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: ahh, too slo
nubbins`: check it:
nubbins`: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 685.57, Best ask: 688.99, Bid-ask spread: 3.42000, Last trade: 689.0, 24 hour volume: 72468.55509753, 24 hour low: 530.0, 24 hour high: 713.0, 24 hour vwap: 639.580822098
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1212 BTC [-]
dub: had an ex that could do standing splits, cheerleader etc
dub: knew not what to do with cock however
Duffer1: stand on your head too, duh
mircea_popescu: dub can learn.
dub: she knew not what to do ffs
dub: I know all about such things
dub: insert, remove, sleep.
dub: dont try to tell me otherwise internet peon or I'll ragepart
mircea_popescu: ok ignore your injoyance.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00085961 = 26.7339 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: you'll pull a herb
dub: rageherb?
dub: herbrage
ozbot: [Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus
mircea_popescu: no witty retort makes me all sad inside.
pankkake: long url is long
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well, it encodes arabic script, so... yeah
dub: ah derka derka derka
BingoBoingo: dub: Well, they expressed in the thread earlier a bit of suprised Darpa would have in the past supported OpenBSD
pankkake: must be terrorists. bitcoin, openbsd, arabic, the evidence is overwhelming
BingoBoingo: pankkake: or freedomfighers, security aware goatherders, or simply people looking into making a living in the IT industry
pankkake: is there a difference?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Not necessarily, but there also isn't a necessary association either
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02510127 = 0.2008 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90400 @ 0.00085357 = 77.1627 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: that's a long url of praise
Duffer1: LTC on Gox?
pankkake: Trade with confidence on the world's largest Bitcoin exchange!
mircea_popescu: the world's largest everything is everywhere!
copumpkin: that's a big MPOE sale there
copumpkin: MPOE has a remarkably deep book
pankkake: what I don't understand is why the other things don't have that volume
pankkake: well at least Bitbet. it's operating.
pankkake: latest Almost Human didn't mention Bitcoin. must be why the price is falling
ozbot: Charlie Shrem, Bitcoin entrepreneur, interviewed by Jeffrey Tucker - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: this guy wants give shrem a bj
Duffer1: JT is a great interviewee
ThickAsThieves: oh man this guy is so horny for him
Duffer1: hehe
BingoBoingo: I wonder if Charlie Shrem can ride roller coasters
ThickAsThieves: what a horrible video
BingoBoingo: On account of that matter of his height or lack thereof
Duffer1: do they talk about the money laundering charge?
ThickAsThieves: i couldnt take anymore
ThickAsThieves: good luck
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00568699 = 0.1137 BTC [+]
KRS1: lmao ThickAsThieves -> this guy wants give shrem a bj
KRS1: I'll bet its on the unreleased videos
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 59 @ 0.0055 = 0.3245 BTC
mircea_popescu: dexX7 happens
mike_c: pankkake: it's because s.mpoe is so huge. s.bbet actually has a higher share turnover over the last 6 months than s.mpoe.
mircea_popescu: interesting
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mpoe
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00085721 high: 0.00086297 low: 0.00084891 volume: 1624150 btc: 1392.23827571 7 day: average: 0.00087835 high: 0.00093912 low: 0.00082189 volume: 7039964 btc: 6183.54502157 30 day: average: 0.0009022 high: 0.00101414 low: 0.00082189 volume: 26985544 btc: 24346.2590462
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.bbet
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.BBET 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.000621 high: 0.00062299 low: 0.00062099 volume: 9360 btc: 5.8125299 30 day: average: 0.00069705 high: 0.0009 low: 0.0006 volume: 16002 btc: 11.1542499
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 24346.2590462 / 1000000000 / 0.0009022
gribble: 0.0269854345447
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 11.1542499 / 10000000 / 0.00069705
gribble: 0.00160020800516
mircea_popescu: not quite
mircea_popescu: course you did say six months
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00085596 = 19.6443 BTC [+]
jborkl_: Mtgox finished recapitalization today, good for another 6 months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02510001 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
jborkl_: Have to find a new one next time
jborkl_: Uggh what should we use this time guys
jborkl_: Heh you know its true, that is the sad part
mike_c: to redeem myself, since july 1:
mike_c: ;;calc 80819516 / 1000000000
gribble: 0.080819516
mike_c: ;;calc 1452230 / 10000000
gribble: 0.145223
mircea_popescu: s.dice was also outtrading s.mpoe for a while there
mircea_popescu: but i guess overall yeah, just damned hard to beat.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.57993266 = 1.7398 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00568789 = 0.1706 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: wow.. so, also since july 1 those trades meant 70,000 btc in volume on mpoe! and 203 btc on s.bbet.
mike_c: so, that's why moar volume on mpoe :)
mircea_popescu: actually...
mike_c: well, cause/effect, whatever
mircea_popescu: tell you what, ~8% of the mkt cap trading over ~7 months is just about exactly right.
mircea_popescu: best scam in history, every way you look at it it's legit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.585 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically two good dividend months in a row for bbet killed the volume.
mike_c: nobody wants to sell
mircea_popescu: i guess the fundamental negotiation has tyre kickers and car collectors, and they have trouble finding common ground
mircea_popescu: team A being "i don't care how good these internet funbux corps look" and team B going "unless i need money to buy rope i'm not selling my btc securities"
mircea_popescu: in the end... this being exactly how greatness is built. by the time they do find that common ground... look out.
mike_c: turn on the hft. more volume instantly.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 333 @ 0.0055 = 1.8315 BTC
mircea_popescu: all the bitching about how difficult itis or it isn't to acquire btc is irrelevant. that's not where the hot core of btc is happening. this is.
mircea_popescu: mike_c no rush, volume can come later. let people figure shit out first.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.00075 = 0.375 BTC [-]
mike_c: oh yeah, i was kidding. more volume will come with increasing revenue i believe.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.31 / 700
gribble: 0.000442857142857
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.59607178 = 19.0743 BTC [+] {9}
mircea_popescu: chec it out, 4428 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 63.55 / 700
gribble: 0.0907857142857
mircea_popescu: so basically facebook trades at 100x s.mpoe on 4x the revenue per share.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is definitely not the revenue.
mike_c: well, s.mg trades at a higher revenue multiple than s.mpoe too. but i still think revenue will help :)
mircea_popescu: i doubt it. what will help is the passive effect of people hearing about s.mpoe and forgetting about facebook
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 182 @ 0.0055 = 1.001 BTC
mircea_popescu: because see, facebook existed back in the day when myspace was trading for 700mn
mircea_popescu: but a "social network" with nothing at all can not begin to stand up to the central bank of bitcoin. it's a contest between a bulldog and a cockroach.
asciilifeform: misread as 'contest between a bulldog and a couch'
Duffer1: thickasthieves how's that cryptocurrency social network you signed up for?
mircea_popescu: o wait. haha. i was comparing facebook revenue with mpex net income attributed.
mircea_popescu: strike that.
mircea_popescu: facebook is trading 100x s.mpoe on 80% the revenue.
ThickAsThieves: <Duffer1> thickasthieves how's that cryptocurrency social network you signed up for? <<<< they never activated my account
mircea_popescu: let's see what other lulzy comparisons we can find. is twitter even listed ?
mircea_popescu: "Twitter Shares Plummet 23% On Market Opening"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1725 @ 0.00299358 = 5.1639 BTC [+] {13}
mircea_popescu: o look at that! -509.68-63.33-38.92-23.91-8.78
mircea_popescu: twitter lost 1 dollar per share in the LAST QUARTER
mircea_popescu: still trading at 50 per share.
KRS1: wow not many rly expected that
mircea_popescu: i wonder how well would a bitcoin company do that made a 2% loss
nubbins`: so cbc's olympic webcasts have all the pre-broadcast chatter that gets cut for tv
nubbins`: one commentator is talking about how the battery in his samsung phone dies really quick
mircea_popescu: ah this has been such a delicious excursion into fiat
nubbins`: they're now trying to figure out how to connect to the wifi
nubbins`: the password is "media"
asciilifeform: nubbins`: does anyone still sell those toys that light up when illuminated by GSM nearby?
mircea_popescu: "o look at that, the network is not working anymore"
nubbins`: "in about 70 seconds, we are voicing to the web" lel
nubbins`: hmm, not sure
nubbins`: i think so!
asciilifeform: would make a good gift for mr. deadbattery
nubbins`: haha now one of them is coughing over the intro
asciilifeform: example:
mircea_popescu: meanwhile google is trading at 1170 with ttm per share at about 38
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1170 / 700
gribble: 1.67142857143
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 38 / 700
gribble: 0.0542857142857
ThickAsThieves: tsla almost hit 200 today
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.0542857142857/1.67142857143
gribble: 0.0324786324786
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.0001010 / 0.0009022
gribble: 0.111948570162
mircea_popescu: what is this ?! s.mpoe has 3x the per-share revenue of google ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.00075 = 1.125 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: more elegant:
asciilifeform: (no pcb needed!)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.00075 = 1.5 BTC [-]
nubbins`: haha, i like that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1609 @ 0.0007505 = 1.2076 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: RF Radiation Detector | Rookie Electronics
ozbot: The Creative Science Centre - by Dr Jonathan P. Hare
mircea_popescu: lol ozzie coming from behind
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 130 @ 0.00083527 = 0.1086 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: if bugged cell phones were presided over by Meta-NSA instead of classic nsa, the buggers would store compressed audio and piss it out in bursts when plugged into the mains
asciilifeform: rather than the 'me battery died in 1/2 hr.' idiocy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if bugged landlines were presided over by the meta-kgb rather than the classic kgb you couldn't audibly detect the listener switching on.
asciilifeform: click-hiss
asciilifeform: sometimes click-hiss is the objective though.
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mg
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MG 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00010006 high: 0.000125 low: 0.00010001 volume: 2902 btc: 0.290369 30 day: average: 0.000103 high: 0.000138 low: 0.00010001 volume: 35998 btc: 3.70795246
mircea_popescu: mike_c s.mg is practically trading at book.
asciilifeform: intimidation-by-botched-surveillance (or rumour thereof)
asciilifeform: works great
mike_c: too long withouta build.
asciilifeform: witness all the 'me toaster is bugged!!1!' saps on schneier's blog
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform those saps'd intimidate themselves with a coca cola cap.
mircea_popescu: mike_c prolly.
mircea_popescu: tbh maybe it's time to try a twitter. announce surprise half billion losses, see what happens
mike_c: hehe
Mats_cd03: i accidentally bought some s.mpoe at coinbr at 15% above the going rate
Mats_cd03: sad face
mike_c: ? how did you manage that? or you mean it dipped?
Mats_cd03: i adjusted the price while i was high
Mats_cd03: rather than the number of shares
Mats_cd03: to account for an amount to pay for fees i wanted to leave a certain amount in my balance
Mats_cd03: ...im still high
mike_c: i think you are. even if you overbid it would fill at the lowest ask.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: i didn't know it did that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 470 @ 0.00489268 = 2.2996 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00587999 = 2.352 BTC [+] {17}
Mats_cd03: the chart seems pretty clear
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.19376446 = 1.7439 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> i didn't know it did that < you have got to be kidding me.
Mats_cd03: well im pretty sure thats not true
mircea_popescu: so how much you paid per share ?
Mats_cd03: 0.00093457
mircea_popescu: when was this ?
Mats_cd03: 02/06/2014 01:28AM
mircea_popescu: i think it was actualy trading 90s on the 6th
ozbot: CoinBr Live S.MPOE
mircea_popescu: it dropped at like 9 am
Mats_cd03: oh bummer
mircea_popescu: you got the gift.
Mats_cd03: whats the gift
mircea_popescu: when you take a position in a trending stock only for the trend to immediately and abruptly reverse.
Mats_cd03: oh im ok with that
KRS1: just do the opposite =D
Mats_cd03: im about to buy some more
mircea_popescu: it's basically being the bane of hipsters.
Mats_cd03: is it cause youre abrasive?
Mats_cd03: oh i must have misunderstood you
mircea_popescu: you're being the bane of hipsters. cause you got the gift of trendbreaking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1239 = 0.3717 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: hipsters are trend followers see.
Mats_cd03: that was too much for me
mircea_popescu: also, if anyone is looking for homework, http://trilema.com/2014/no-its-not-the-revenue/
mike_c: hehe. expect comment soon
KRS1: check out that mound
mircea_popescu: lmao 4chan had an advertising campaign
mircea_popescu: that bitch's hawt.
KRS1: yeah they wanted to spin bridges into a big thing by doubling down on both sides of the pros/cons
KRS1: lmao
ozbot: U.S. to suspend pension, retirement funding: Lew - MarketWatch
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00489996 = 0.49 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: whoa baby. no more pensions/retirement benefits for you us people, is it ?
KRS1: the fuck?
KRS1: no..can't..
KRS1: they've paid into it
mircea_popescu: full faith and credit bitch. suck it.
KRS1: ITS HAPPEN.. wtf evar
mircea_popescu: next time pay it into bitcoin.
KRS1: I'm thinking about fleeing to maybe new zealand..idk.. can't seem to settle on some part of the world that isn't or won't be fucked up in some way.
mircea_popescu: the serenissima welcomes you wherever you go.
KRS1: i'm pretty resourceful..worse comes to worse I can live off the land somewhere remote..or even better dump all my savings into a sizable yacht and live life as a mariner.
mircea_popescu: so the us is restructuring its foreign debt after all huh
asciilifeform: dreamed a while ago that looking out the window, no traffic. asked some bum, 'why', he answers 'dontcha know, it's The Holiday, finally happened'
KRS1: some major financial moves started weeks ago
mircea_popescu: KRS1 yeah but the thing with large moves is that nobody believes it
mircea_popescu: like say the california quake
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that sounds like it could be on a beatles song
asciilifeform: methinks 'the holiday' is as good a name as any for that event.
mircea_popescu: Social Security being shut down for 62 hours starting 2/15/14
mircea_popescu: o look, the chinese "computer upgrades" have made their way into the us
asciilifeform: and like the earthquake, most folks only 'believe' the dead lights, backed up toilets, disappeared heat
asciilifeform: seismograph? pfft.
mircea_popescu: graphs lie
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14347 @ 0.00085261 = 12.2324 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 203 @ 0.0055 = 1.1165 BTC
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