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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00085401 = 12.0415 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59397969 = 1.7819 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2920 @ 0.0002 = 0.584 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: DJ Khaled - Born N Raised - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.59 = 5.31 BTC [-]
KRS-One: Gotta represent fo my city
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20279 @ 0.00085422 = 17.3227 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.5939797 = 4.1579 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 3000 @ 0.0055 = 16.5 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1650 @ 0.0002 = 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00085452 = 0.6409 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28797 @ 0.00085491 = 24.6188 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2002 @ 0.00020084 = 0.4021 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3703 @ 0.00085776 = 3.1763 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 154 @ 0.00594281 = 0.9152 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.119 BTC [+]
theo: hey
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 532 @ 0.00021 = 0.1117 BTC [+]
KRS-One: sup
KRS-One: .bait
KRS-One: wtf hips , probable dumpy ass.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04999999 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Sublime - KRS One - YouTube
kakobrekla: not much, another day another bitcoin
KRS-One: finishing prodigy-smack my bitch up atm 2 min left
KRS-One: prolly have to smoke a cig after this
KRS-One: hey kakobrekla u a sysadmin right
KRS-One: kinda
kakobrekla: i do nothing and everything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00021003 = 0.8401 BTC [-] {4}
KRS-One: so like my nephew has huge email list he wants to use as email addresses for submitting forms to some websites-he says i would need thousands of ip addresses and spoofed browser info so the servers dont get filtered/banned, wants it to look legit. he says we just gotta repopulate the email address and automate the click process..
KRS-One: i say theres much more to it than that, was going to suggest a threaded C program..but im not sure we would need so many ip addresses instead of a well known email host
KRS-One: maybe throttle the submissions a bit..idk.. any input
kakobrekla: yeah, go find something more legitimate to do
KRS-One: yeh its some grayhat bs
KRS-One: it actually is legit, he does internet marketing
KRS-One: problem is it wouldnt look legit to admins
KRS-One: thx anyway
KRS-One: underground cock?
KRS-One: .bait
KRS-One: I have a pretty open mind when it comes to music, but wtf is this some borat shit?
KRS-One: Bulgaria
KRS-One: very instrumental
kakobrekla: its not bulgaria
KRS-One: no?
KRS-One: kind of reminds me of the hardcore Cuban music I get exposed to here..they're very instrumental, trumpets, drums, etc.
KRS-One: what would this be considered? Popular music? Even for younger folks?
kakobrekla: its a sountrack for a movie
KRS-One: oh ya i could see that
KRS-One: u listen to this?
kakobrekla: no, younger folks listen to shit you paste
kakobrekla: i do!
KRS-One: I listened to it, thanks. Its very different for me.
KRS-One: Feel free to send another one some time thats a bit different
KRS-One: Vexual sure has a wide range of tastes. I like checking out his links.
KRS-One: bbiaf smoke break
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00085452 = 10.9379 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: hows that?
KRS-One: just clicked on it
KRS-One: heh wtf
kakobrekla: ok maybe this one from the same band, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB_c4uni6Xg
KRS-One: sure is...different..these guys are real artists.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5826 BTC [-]
theo: The king maynard knows how to write music and damn he knows how to sing
KRS-One: Aw yeah theo
KRS-One: APC one of my fav's
KRS-One: Haven't listened to them in a while.
theo: KRS-one: they really are, i am amazed they haven't gained the famity of Tool as of yet. But time will tell. Got to see them live last year best experience ever
KRS-One: Very percussion like Tool. Both bands are tops with me.
kakobrekla: anywho, the point is, the utility of music yt links is so low on -assets i discourage them, strongly.
theo: Well maynard is in both and writes for both of them lol.
theo: Have you heard his 3rd side project?
KRS-One: sorry bout that kakobrekla
KRS-One: theo...no?
KRS-One: kakobrekla: maybe not so bad when theres nothing going on?
theo: wow. I will link you them. They take my breath away
KRS-One: oh cool plz do
theo: Is that ok kakobrekla? If i link a YT video?
theo: KRS-one: these guys are tool and APC combinded into a much better version me thinks my fav song is this one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR3ccmWmLhk (its the anthem to my life or how i want to live) and this one is is just more calm and flowing but still amazing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0YxeTjFn70. (since k hasent answered il take the risk and link lol)
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobrekla: now you made assbot upset.
theo: ahhhhhh not the @ss
KRS-One: navigating..
KRS-One: Oh I've heard of pucifer
KRS-One: dig that bass guitar
theo: yeah maynard is the writer for tool APC and puscifer. Plus he also did some green jelly back in the 70's
theo: yeh and the deep voice.
kakobrekla: just think about people reading the logs when you type spam in this window thank you
KRS-One: ok kakobrekla
theo: no problems :). Mind you i read the logs sometimes and there is a lot of spam always lol.
kakobrekla: keep up the good work!
KRS-One: This is good stuff..adding to my collection.
KRS-One: Thanks a lot theo
theo: KRS-one: your welcome brother i can link you on to many other similar bands that are small time or for some reason no one knows :)
theo: let me know what you think of the humbling
KRS-One: funny, i used to get exposed to different music when i'd download mp3's from livewire and what not when i would check out other music peopl ehad
KRS-One: thats what im listening to now
KRS-One: theo: me and Vexual trade links from time to time and b.s.
KRS-One: the humbling seems pretty powerful
KRS-One: i love it
theo: yeh same here the only way i now get exposed to new music is through my DJ friends and a recording label i hang at. Otherwise it would take so long to go through everything.
theo: Yeah the build up and just the lyrics "the hands of the many must join as one. and Together we will cross the river"
KRS-One: i go on undernet #mp3passion to download mp3's sometimes i watch the traffic go by and check out different stuff..kinda works for me.
KRS-One: Momma sed much better, maybe its my current mood
KRS-One: ya the build up
theo: if you ever want up and coming Australian bands i have to many of them. lol. Yeah momma sed to me is how i think all men should act. just a good set of lyrics
KRS-One: good stuff dude
theo: il send 1 other link and see what you think very different music again
kakobrekla: get a room you two
theo: will you come?
ozbot: Boss Moxi
theo: this is my favorite band at the moment (though i am bias as its one of my best friends band)
theo: k no more spam thanks for tollerating it kakobrekla
KRS-One: ok see ya kakobrekla
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.07202942 = 1.2245 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00085566 = 12.022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00085452 = 20.6367 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2342 @ 0.00021002 = 0.4919 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7000 @ 0.00021 = 1.47 BTC [-]
Namworld: Can someone explain me why CasinoBitcoin is trading at 27 years of profits?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00085617 = 27.954 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8243 @ 0.00085624 = 7.058 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00085452 = 20.6794 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1627 @ 0.00085344 = 1.3885 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0734 = 0.2202 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0735 = 0.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4993 @ 0.00085642 = 4.2761 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9962 @ 0.00085998 = 8.5671 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6705 @ 0.0008568 = 5.7448 BTC [-]
theo: So MPEX can it actually be trusted?
Namworld: Why wouldn't it be trustable?
Namworld: It's the one with the longest history.
theo: Well the owner of the exchange is very adament that he will never be found and you can do what you like to try and track it
theo: I do realise it has a long history. But so have some of the biggest ponzi schemes
Namworld: That he will never be found? Where the heck have you read that?
Namworld: He's quite public and vocal about what he does.
kakobrekla: theo me and a couple of other on this chan found him last year!
theo: really
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55572305 BTC [-]
theo: ok. I just read on a few reddit topics and other things
Namworld: I would certainly like a link for a laugh.
kakobrekla: yes, reddit, the finance cream of the crop
Namworld: Whatever those reddits thread said, I'm sure they were innacurate.
theo: I agree hence why i was asking here to see others opinions.
Namworld: The owner can be pretty provocative/be vocal with unpopular opinions.
Namworld: It gets a lot of people quite pissed about him.
theo: But at the end of the day he is pretty straight up about business?
Namworld: But as far as business goes, it's been solid.
Namworld: Longest lasting exchange. No screw ups. Pretty secure wallet too.
theo: Alright thank's i have been looking at it as an option to trade on, just hesitent as 25 BTC is not so smaller investment nowdays
Namworld: It was more fun when SatoshiDice traded on there. I have an account, that I don't use that much anymore, sadly.
Namworld: SatoshiDice is now quite dead however. And not listed anywhere anyway.
kakobrekla: theo, coinbr
theo: coinbr is that the company that lets you trade on them through them as a proxie? and only charges a fee
kakobrekla: yea jurov runs that
Namworld: Yes, you should sign up on coinbr if you don't want to put 25 BTC
Namworld: Both coinbr and mpex are in a good legal jurisdiction for that short of things.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32467 @ 0.00086138 = 27.9664 BTC [+] {2}
moiety: isn't it 30btc?
kakobrekla: 25 for those who can read
moiety: why didn't he say himself when they were discussing it being 30 then
Namworld: 25 for those with a MPEx referral
kakobrekla: yes its 30, but if you posses the skill of reading level 7 or higher, its 25
moiety: oh lol i thought you were just meaning i'd read it wrong kakobrekla! XD lol
kakobrekla: Namworld but referral numbers are lying around
kakobrekla: so reading comprehension is what its needed
random_cat: you think jurov has one? :D
kakobrekla: or maybe people who listed things on mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00020501 = 0.82 BTC [-] {5}
FabianB: and lots of ppl hanging around here
kakobrekla: what im saying you dont even have to leave mpex page to get one
Namworld: I have one. First result on google for MPEx referral.
Namworld: You have to search for it a bit however.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29782 @ 0.00086248 = 25.6864 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00307539 = 0.2184 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2238 @ 0.00020501 = 0.4588 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3045 @ 0.000205 = 0.6242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00086243 = 31.0475 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.073987 = 0.148 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.0054002 = 0.3726 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 46 @ 0.59702253 = 27.463 BTC [+] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3717 @ 0.00019011 = 0.7066 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00086294 = 13.807 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0743995 = 0.4464 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0744 = 0.2232 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 900 @ 0.00082525 = 0.7427 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.19376446 = 5.8129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00086349 = 3.713 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00565838 = 0.5658 BTC [+] {6}
jurov: hi all
jurov: and it's simple. if you register without referral, 0.2% goes to me
jurov: to coinbr
jurov: and having the invitation code is not compulsory, that was only for a month or so
jurov: random_cat, theo : one referral number to MPEx is there in plain sight: http://explo.yt/post/2014/01/13/MPEx%3A-The-Missing-Manual
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
theo: yeh i have already seen that site with the referall and manuals. Tis what got me more interested in MPEX Though i am not sure that they really offer anything i would invest into other then the derivatives scheme they offer as a baseline
jurov: well, for example both S.NSA and S.MG are making solid progress and are expected to ship imminently
jurov: but i don't know, what you want exactly?
theo: The only thing is that the profits from the website itself would have to be more then the 25 BTC i Invest and the additional funds i would invest after the origional down payment
jurov: during what timespan?
theo: Well currently i am quiet happy with havelock the only thing is that they don't have a large selection to choose from, well at least a large selection i believe could do well as buisness
theo: in the end i am a mid-long term investment. Dont usually have time for short term trading as i have a family
jurov: if you are sure havelock will be there mid-long term...then stay there
theo: What are your thought's? do you think they will?
jurov: imo they are going to end up like glbse/bf/btct, if a bit slower
theo: alright
theo: why is that?
theo: they have SFI which to me was a big thumbs up in my mind a IPO that raised 2 million
jurov: it's clear at least once cavirtex did what they did
theo: and that has 3 companies being mentioned in mass media
kakobrekla: because investing is all about mass media!
jurov: and name me some stocks there that have detailed monthly reports and clear signed agreements like mpex carries
theo: herpa derp, no it has little to do with mass media... But what i was implying is that if a incubator company that has 3 of there companies being mentioned in media a) it will do well. and b) in my mind it makes me think that there may be some more creedence to the website
theo: Honestly i can't hence why i am asking for advice and your opinions about such things
jurov: did you invest into doge, then? it has mass media powers
theo: CBTC seem pretty up front providing reports bi-monthly
theo: no i never did
theo: and never would thats a different type of investing
jurov: yes, that's one.
theo: there are only 3 companies i invest in there
theo: and the only 3 i have are the ones that seem to be transperent and have good communication.
theo: CBTC, RENT and SFI
kakobrekla: CBTC does monthly statements?
kakobrekla: that might explain "CasinoBitcoin is trading at 27 years of profits"
theo: bi-monthly they update the google doc
ozbot: CasinoBitco.in - Public
theo: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.php updated each month by there company
theo: So right now it seems more like your making fun of my questions and what i think then providing any reasoning other then MPEX has been there ages and you should use my company to trade on it for my profit. Seriously great IRC.
jurov: theo can you pinpoint where i'm mocking you?
theo: <jurov> did you invest into doge, then? it has mass media powers\
theo: that to me is a jab at me, and many would take it as such
jurov: it was my honest opinion, you asked for
theo: I didn't ask about mass media or about dodge.
jurov: ...
theo: I asked about your opinion on mpex and havelock.
jurov: and you reasoned by mass media coverage
jurov: i took that almost as joke
jurov: and replied accordingly
theo: I didn't use that as any reasoning idiot read back
theo: I used the IPO of SFI as reasoning and side noted that there companies had recieved mass media.
theo: That is not reasoning. it was a side note
jurov: so it's your side noted against my "jabs" then
theo: Yawn. I came on here looking for good info and maybe a nice convo, all your providing is arguments and yes you did make a "jab" Now we are arguing semantics for no reason. I asked your's / anyone elses advice on havelock and MPEX and all i got was a hey you should use my company as thats a hefty fee
theo: now your being a real dick so putting a great vibe out for your company thanks for making sure i tell everyone never to use yours :)
jurov: no need to hyperventilate
theo: how does one hyperventilate on the internet?
kakobrekla: we are not here to convince you into anything
theo: I didn't say you were, i just thought people would actually be nice and maybe give advice instead of being dicks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 718 @ 0.00086193 = 0.6189 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: o look its herby
kakobrekla: no free advice when it comes to money
theo: Actually there is a lot, no good advice is free usually
jurov: what kind of advice did you want? i say, mass media is irrelevant when coming to btc investment, you call me idiot
jurov: just because i said it in funny way
theo: Really it is irreleveant? how about go look at the company who made BTCtrader performed on the stock market the day they announced there beta ended? or how about the casino company who announced they were making a exchange? both stocks went up by 5-10% in a single day thats called mass media arround BTC affecting the world
theo: And furthering that Mass media is what has driven bitcoin to the point it is. If reddit hadn't started accepting it when they did i betchya we would not be at this point yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00086125 = 10.2489 BTC [-]
jurov: but you said you're in for medium to long term.. or was it a side nmote,, too?
theo: semantics again.
herbijudlestoids: hullo kakobrekla
herbijudlestoids: hullo jurov
herbijudlestoids: theo: what advice did you want from these dicks
theo: I was asking about havelock and MPEX. Why jurov though that havelock would go down like so many of the other security exchanges
herbijudlestoids: theo: i think the general perception around here is they are in it for the hype, ergo its unsustainable
theo: Ok so not actually to do with legal reasons etc?
jurov: because havelock does not uphold any standards and it's up to issuers. i can't say that clearer
herbijudlestoids: they list "businesses", MPex prides itself on only listing what it deems to actually have a business model
theo: jurov i think thats a bit backwards as they do have standards. Otherwise they would have a fuck load more IPO as they reject a lot as well.
theo: They just might not have good standards
theo: Ok thank you herbu
theo: herbi*
taub: ahaha i didn't even look into dogecoin closely until now
taub: but it's such a scam wow
taub: meme driven pump and dump
taub: only use is mine and sell ?
taub: unlimited cions
herbijudlestoids: theo: there have been some good examples shown iirc, you can trawl the logs if you wish
theo: will do
theo: whats your opinion herbi? are you also of the opinion that havelock will crumble and fall? The only reason i have some faith in havelock is there investment of SFI which was able to raise 2 million
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.00300242 = 0.3333 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0745 = 0.298 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.075 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00086125 = 20.5839 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14982 @ 0.00086125 = 12.9032 BTC [-]
herbijudlestoids: theo: no specific opinion, tho if i wanted to build an exchange it would look more like mpex and less like havelock
theo: Alright thank's :). If i wanted to build a exchange i think i would touch up on it from MPEX or at least the front end lol. And also his personal skills
herbijudlestoids: thats because you think like a very small fish
herbijudlestoids: MPEX is conceptually equivalent to a large scale exchange on the order of NYSE or CME
herbijudlestoids: the frontend is irrelevent to the end user and in those cases is absolutely not exposed
herbijudlestoids: users of the system interact with the exchange through brokerage
theo: agreed
herbijudlestoids: so? the frontend has really nothing to do with it, nor his personal skills
herbijudlestoids: hell give you a seat on the exchange for 30BTC
theo: Well i think you do miss some idea. The majority of stocks sold on the exchanges like Dow Jones or Nasdaq are used through brokerages because the majority of people do not have the technical know how on how to use a system or have the time to learn how its used. So if I were making a exchange i would do an idea of both providing one like his, with the ability to be your own brokerage and hence if people wanted charge a additio
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00021997 = 0.264 BTC [+]
theo: though thats just me
herbijudlestoids: theo: i dont miss any idea. not everyone needs a seat on the exchange. you do not understand the concept of an exchange.
jurov: theo your text was too long, got cut on "wanted charge a additio"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.0735 = 1.8375 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.07319999 = 0.366 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: herbijudlestoids: you understood what theo has in mind?
herbijudlestoids: jurov: i dont think he has fully thought it through, he just sees some smalltime webservice which lets poncy little stocks that go nowhere list
jurov: butbutbut.. it's covered by media!!! *sigh*
herbijudlestoids: theo: what i suggest is if you think the existing thing has deficiencies that you can overcome, make your own thing and people will flock to it
herbijudlestoids: youll be rich in no time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.60349997 = 10.863 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
theo: Well to be honest i don't think he has done amazingly well what with the securities options someone in a post said that he had to pay out pretty much his whole years profits as people bet on the rising price and he had to pay / she
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
theo: But right now i am not sure as i am still researching
ozbot: MPOE, April 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
herbijudlestoids: theo: now i get why mircea_popescu is so short...because people are so fucken dumb
herbijudlestoids: you just read some shit, you really have no clue and form your opinions based on dumb shit
ozbot: MPOE, March 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
theo: No herbi maybe i am trying to make a informed opinion on these exchanges based on limited information.
davout: ohai
jurov: theo then ask for information, not for opinions. there *is* info.
theo: I don't have an opinion as of yet and am asking questions from those who seem to be knowledgeable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [+]
theo: thank you for the links jurov
theo: that was what i was refering to and that provided a much more indepth view into what was mentioned on a forum
herbijudlestoids: theo: lol so basically you required to be spoonfed info which is available on mpex directly
jurov: tbh, it's not easy to discover, i used http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ too
jurov: on the other hand, i do link btcalpha from the manual
herbijudlestoids: jurov: err, goto mpex.co, click on S.MPOE, top of the page is "Monthly statements available here"
jurov: oh my i forgot.. call ne noob :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4500 @ 0.00021997 = 0.9899 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00086105 = 29.1035 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: mornin gents
mircea_popescu: KRS-One dude, seriously ? spamming ? nephew ?
herbijudlestoids: i am mining teh altcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00086385 = 23.5831 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: you getting any blox ?
herbijudlestoids: im on the coinminer.net pool...just detected a new block a few mins ago
mircea_popescu: theo are you like retarded ? about a dozen people in this room found me just fine wtf.
mircea_popescu: ow crap, now i'm talking to ignored people off the chatlog.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids real men solomine!
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i had a small mining rig, 1.6GH/s but one day my USB hub died and difficulty was going up so i never bothered to restore the setup...tonight i thought i would plug it back in for ATC
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out, its hard for me to use my little ASICs to do anything except with cgminer
herbijudlestoids: new block
mircea_popescu: yeah actually, the happenstance of btc and the particular usb implementation some miner manufacturers happened to use really exposed a lot of crap the usb manufacturers were hiding under the rug for years
ThickAsThieves: <herbijudlestoids> mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out -- source is in the thread
ThickAsThieves: i'll post link to main website today
mircea_popescu: it's one of those age old stories in industry "ah, who's ever gonna know" then 2 years later... bam someone burntests your shit on a large scale
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: ah ok, how much work do i need to do to get these lil buggers to mine on it?
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids think of it this way : all the work you do is training.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1318 @ 0.00086067 = 1.1344 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: can we tell people, don't play on testnet, play on Altcoin!
ThickAsThieves: herb i dunno how diff to set up mining, the source isn't much different other than some logos and stuff changed
mircea_popescu: kinda expensive by now for many tastes.
herbijudlestoids: ah ok, solo mining is not hard it seems, i just point cgminer to the altcoind
herbijudlestoids: i will have to recompile altcoind from source since i dont have 64bit installed on this laptop
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 895 @ 0.00300009 = 2.6851 BTC [-] {11}
herbijudlestoids: i should just get the lil rig back up and running
mircea_popescu: moiety the idea is in http://mpex.co/faq.html#13 and i didn't say anything because what am i to do, keep pasting the faq ?
mircea_popescu: but inasmuch as both you and your referrer get 5 btc, it could be argued the new account only costs 20 with a referrer. anyway.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids you don't have 64bit installed ?! what ?
herbijudlestoids: well, the lappy only has 4gb of ram, so why bother?
mircea_popescu: o you mean the cpu is 64bit but you're using a 32bit os ?
herbijudlestoids: its a thinkpad x230, my bebbeh, i love it
mircea_popescu: you know doing that actually slows it down because adressing and stuff ?
mircea_popescu: it's not just the addressable memory pool size that counts.
ThickAsThieves: fyi i have moiety ignored and i dont know why, probly a nickchange
herbijudlestoids: well lucky my entire workflow is encompassed by terminal, firefox, ssh, rdesktop and i dont notice ;)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i've been extremely irc promiscuous this year.
moiety: hi mircea_popescu lol catching up? and nope they should go find it and read it in the first place.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids "i didn't buy my bebbeh i love it any clothes because whatever, she's cold but my entire workflow consists of get in kitchen make me sammich"
ThickAsThieves: no wait i dont have ignored
ThickAsThieves: just couldnt findin log
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so i'm promiscuous and you're confused.
moiety: btw guys i'm chipug, just using usual nick now
ThickAsThieves: lemme finish this coffee...
moiety: is that why you ignored me ThickAsThieves?!
mircea_popescu: whoa you ignored the girl ? you faggot!
moiety: lol kidding ThickAsThieves XD
ThickAsThieves: my wife, for like the first time ever, asked if there were girls in IRC
ThickAsThieves: like she had to ask the one week there is
mircea_popescu: i'm sort-of hoping one day some libertard finds this chan and is all "we must start a petition to have these people brought to justice! they said cunt!"
ThickAsThieves: I said "No, just guys pretending"
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: is the only peer in the DNS seed still down for ATC? when i tried earlier today it was giving me conn refused and i had to explicitly connect to an IP someone posted in the chan
mircea_popescu: Namworld: I have one. First result on google for MPEx referral. <<< ahaha epic.
herbijudlestoids: err thread
chetty: libtards can't irc. - requires reading and stuff
ThickAsThieves: herb, ask pankakke or the thread such questions, i'm just a weirdo in a clown suit
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: can you link me the src?
mircea_popescu: so i'm promiscuous, you're confused and this guy cnat raed.
moiety: i love the language code of this channel
mircea_popescu: ;;google chickenhawk "i scared myself" "i'm hunting a chicken"
gribble: Henery Hawk (Character) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0039581/quotes>; Foghorn Leghorn (Character) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0029619/quotes>; The Looney Tunes Show - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Looney_Tunes_Show>
pankkake: herbijudlestoids: it's my server and it's up. maybe it has trouble connecting to you
pankkake: no one offered IPs for me to add :(
mircea_popescu: wait, wait, pankkake i have incriminating evidence!
pankkake: maybe you can try 87.98.146.72 too
moiety: my pi dreams have been realised in email server form \o/
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: im just recompiling from src will try shortly thx
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids: o shit yea i totally got a giant pool of IPs lol <<<
pankkake: oh, the current binaries don't have dns seeds
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: there is one in there
mircea_popescu: now herbi, share some ips for the glory of the altcoin!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.07660404 = 0.383 BTC [-] {3}
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: like you always say, good service costs BTC :P
herbijudlestoids: but yeah id probly be happy to share an IP or two
ThickAsThieves: traditionally altcoin bounties are paid in that coin
ThickAsThieves: tradition is the best empiricism right?
moiety: is it a bad idea to change email address of a gpg key for any reason?
mircea_popescu: yeah, i'll buy an ip for pankkake from you for 100 alt.
mircea_popescu: which pankkake will pay for me
mircea_popescu: by now this shit's roughly as complex as counterparty trade on any prop desk in london
pankkake: you made me do accounting, as the transaction list of bitcoin-qt sucks
mircea_popescu: wait, wait, pankkake i have incriminating evidence!
mircea_popescu: PierreCPA: Perhaps, though I think we'll call them "accounting system developers", accounting will be done entirely 100% by computers
mircea_popescu: aww shit the guy's not here
mircea_popescu: my evidence ;/
ThickAsThieves: In case anyone missed it, yet cares, ASICMINER update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg5025133#msg5025133
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00085925 = 21.3953 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Depending on fab capacity. Total target is 10k to 40k wafers, relying on competitors, Bitcoin price, and other factors. A wafer is rated at 40 TH/s."
ThickAsThieves: that's for the year
ThickAsThieves: for Gen3
ThickAsThieves: which maybe is the year
ThickAsThieves: which is actually Gen2
mircea_popescu: prolly the year. so they add at most 1.5 ph/s ?
ThickAsThieves: no way more
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 40 * 40
gribble: 1600
mircea_popescu: o o wait, 1.6 exa
ThickAsThieves: theyll basically sell as much as would be bought it sounds
mircea_popescu: and mine with the rest.
mircea_popescu: so if indeed they deliver pretty much everyone mining currently is screwed.
ThickAsThieves: or, bitcoin goes to $10000
ThickAsThieves: or whatever
mircea_popescu: so basically if bitcoiners had a 1 btc budged for killing people, it'd go ~1 btc to taking out friedcat and ~0 btc to taking out a bunch of tards in suits in the us self importantly yakking about regulation or whatever the fuck.
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: that 87.98.146.72 you pasted works :)
mircea_popescu: theo you obviously missed the part where mpex has about a million btc mkt cap listed, and the part where the largest ipos in the history of btc all happened on mpex
ThickAsThieves: of course most of those wafers will be mining Altcoin by then, so it works out
mircea_popescu: now go ask havelock exactly what a) the total bitcoin loss from all listed and closed companies is so far with them
mircea_popescu: and b) exactly what would be the average return of an investor who put in 1 btc over a basket of everything they had a year ago.
mircea_popescu: cause if you don't daytrade and have a family those are the questions that matter, not whether someone paid random unheard of "press" outfit fiddy bux to run their bs story about nothing.
herbijudlestoids: ok solo mining :)
mircea_popescu: as far as i know, out of all the folks pretending to be into bitcoin finance, the only person who was in the press is yours truly.
mircea_popescu: seeing how we don't count reports of having been arrested, doing dope or bs press releases.
mircea_popescu: i gotta stop reading these logs ;/
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: tbh if you have been dealing with incessant queries from people with similar questions to theo then i can understand why you react the way you do to many things :P
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids it's deeper than that, i even have people to insulate me from it
mircea_popescu: but i'm a very unfortunate mix of volcanic personality and hands-right-into-the-grease mental model
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: did you just take that fucker down lol
pankkake: herbijudlestoids: yes. didn't you get any other connections?
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: seems not
pankkake: oh, sorry
herbijudlestoids: no its ok i will just use that other IP i found previously
mircea_popescu: you broke the alt ?!
mircea_popescu: this is wrecking!
pankkake: altcoin is too centralized!
mircea_popescu: omg thank you power ranger pancake for having fixed the blockchain with your powers!
mircea_popescu: you were like right here when you broke it and everything.
pankkake: that's how a lot of altcoins work :/ "oh we got 51% attacked again? let me fix it"
mircea_popescu: pankkake o, you weren't here back in march were you ?
pankkake: no :(
mircea_popescu: ah well. so that went like this : hearn changed the db structure in the new release without reading the old db code because fuck, he worked at google!
Apocalyptic: dat hearn...
mircea_popescu: upon push the blockchain split, all the traders on the old chain, all the fuckwits still at that point following their release cycle on a new chain
mircea_popescu: the split lasted for like half a day
mircea_popescu: and derps in -dev were all like omg you power ranger devs! you were right here! and fixed it!
mircea_popescu: my hero!
pankkake: oh, right, I remember that. didn't know it was hearn
mircea_popescu: i can see that, i thought this must have been taaki too, originally.
herbijudlestoids: so if i find a block, how much altz do i get? 1,000?
moiety: lolol
herbijudlestoids: thats not enuf mang
herbijudlestoids: i need 8888
pankkake: mine bernankoin, then
pankkake: the more you mine the more you get
moiety: can we please send him a cape?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1205 BTC [+]
pankkake: *print
herbijudlestoids: is altcoin the first altcoin that has absolutely no difference from the original bitcoin in terms of algorithm?
herbijudlestoids: its just a "young" bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: moiety yeah, it could be really small and have cunts embroidered on it
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids possibly. certainly the first to get over 100 difficulty.
pankkake: no, there was a recent wave of sha256 altcoins, after usb erupters were totally useless
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: ah right true true
mircea_popescu: o ? musta missed that.
mircea_popescu: name some ?
mircea_popescu: for my culture.
herbijudlestoids: seckscoin
pankkake: the one that made me lol, by the name, AsicCoin
moiety: embroidery? you spoiler. i would've gone iron-on transfers
mircea_popescu: moiety even better because then it could sorta fracture right down the middle
mircea_popescu: taub you would be exactly correct.
kakobrekla: atc trading anywhere yet?
mircea_popescu: otc here and on the forum
mircea_popescu: i just bought real world goods with it!
Apocalyptic: you did ?
mircea_popescu: (ips are real world goods right ?)
kakobrekla: ips? interent porn services?
mircea_popescu: internet protocol numbers!
moiety: lolol @ 'the block-cape'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The majority of stocks sold on the exchanges like Dow Jones" srsly ?!
pankkake: ;;sell 5000 ATC @ 500 satoshi
gribble: Order id 19529 created.
pankkake: magic!
mircea_popescu: that goes straight intpo the bash
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0745 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i was asking for mkt cap chart
Apocalyptic: mircea, where did you get this from ?
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: out of curiosity, how many GH are you contributing to the ATC pool right now?
ozbot: #bitcoin-otc order id 19517
pankkake: uh no, Mh
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids:
mircea_popescu: theo: what i suggest is if you think the existing thing has deficiencies that you can overcome, make your own thing and people will flock to it << no see, that's outright evil. the guy perceives deficiencies due to the shit on his eyes, and fails to see the actual problems. if he manages to get in the media with his braindamaged implementation (which is possible seeing how cluelessly stupid media people are)
kakobrekla: theo is long gone
herbijudlestoids: lel it was a kidden, obviously he is not going to make teh thingz
mircea_popescu: then that'll just be a bunch of people getting hurt down the road. pretty much exactly how most everything outside of mpex has been working to date, from the exchanges, starting with mtgox, to anything you wish to pick
mircea_popescu: no, actually, you're playing with widows' and orphans' money.
mircea_popescu: he WILL make the thing. because he's that stupid, and he lives in a braindead society which encourages fuckwits to "express themselves"
mircea_popescu: and not take no shit from nobody and so forth.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: (well, maybe not him personally, but still)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, my car's been waiting for like half an hour by now, i'll get fined for parking with the driver in it at this rate.
herbijudlestoids: i wonder who is contributing the ~40-100GH/s reports on the mining pool website for ATC
mircea_popescu: catch y'all later.
herbijudlestoids: yeah bye mircea_popescu
moiety: cheerio mircea_popescu
herbijudlestoids: ok, i ordered a new USB hub so i can resurrect the lil mining rig and set it on ATC
herbijudlestoids: at least that way i can try and use any i mine to get my WoT score up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00086118 = 23.4241 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: last block 45min ago
kakobrekla: mine harder
herbijudlestoids: kakobrekla: i got a couple of USB hubs here, but they dont seem to like the ASICs, so itll have to be 336MH/s until it comes :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0008568 = 4.8838 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.19376446 = 3.8753 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0743409 = 0.8177 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Ice age @ Postojna - Iztok Medja | Iztok Medja
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00086127 = 4.737 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10040 @ 0.00086332 = 8.6677 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.19376446 = 1.5501 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: anyone can help me get my altcoin-qt to sync?
ThickAsThieves: console seems to not work
pankkake: Help/Debug window doesn't work?
ThickAsThieves: well it loads, but no commands work
ThickAsThieves: gonna try a diff pc first, this one has some networking issues
pankkake: try "addnode 87.98.146.72 add"
pankkake: otherwise you can also add nodes in ~/.altcoin/altcoin.conf
ThickAsThieves: it accepted that
ThickAsThieves: the help menu shows different syntax
ThickAsThieves: however it still sees no connection
pankkake: weird
ThickAsThieves: do i need to use SOCKS?
ThickAsThieves: maybe my router is messing with it?
ThickAsThieves: <pankkake> otherwise you can also add nodes in ~/.altcoin/altcoin.conf that path exists?
pankkake: it's surprising you could not make outgoing connections
pankkake: on Linux ~ is the home
ThickAsThieves: on windows here
pankkake: and you already should have a .altcoin directory created
pankkake: well, I don't know where to put the altcoin.conf then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00086578 = 11.9045 BTC [+]
Duffer1: same dir as the exe i believe
pankkake: someone did it in the thread I think
ThickAsThieves: itll be some weird users folder probly
pankkake: it's in some user profile folder
Duffer1: weird
pankkake: 125.120.196.224 68.35.72.33 162.243.123.118 other IPs to try
pankkake: it's in the same place as the wallet.dat
Duffer1: %appdata%
pankkake: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 31 minutes and 9 seconds
ThickAsThieves: when i use console to add node, it replies with a blank comment
pankkake: that's normal
Duffer1: search %appdata% then double click on Roaming
pankkake: try getpeerinfo, too
ThickAsThieves: thanks duffer1
pankkake: so you create altcoin.conf and add lines of "addnode=IP"
ThickAsThieves: yep it worked
ThickAsThieves: 8 days behind
kakobrekla: or just do it in console
ThickAsThieves: the console wasnt taking for some reason
ThickAsThieves: oh hell yes
ThickAsThieves: this site has some nice CSS
kakobrekla: go spread t he word
ThickAsThieves: doing so
ThickAsThieves: will they also add link to the main nav on home page?
ThickAsThieves: or only for cool kids?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02829999 = 0.2264 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves at some point i reckon
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.075125 = 0.1503 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0755 = 0.604 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.076 = 0.38 BTC [+]
deadweasel: appdata/altcoin
deadweasel: oh, nm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3854 @ 0.00086763 = 3.3438 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12000001 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: website updated with current links etc http://therealaltcoin.org/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: the blockr page has a weird bug where sometimes links arent clickable, something about scrolling affects it
ThickAsThieves: just in case they dont already know
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4383 @ 0.00019104 = 0.8373 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.0008659 = 17.1881 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.02637610 BTC to 1`070 shares, 95923 satoshi per share
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves can you make a proper bugreport :)
kakobrekla: like in a way that i can be reproduced
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.19376446 = 2.3252 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8326 @ 0.00086763 = 7.2239 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: is there a place to?
kakobrekla: you can pm me and ill let them know
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27510 @ 0.00087175 = 23.9818 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00019101 = 1.5281 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4770 @ 0.00019087 = 0.9104 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60997998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2385 @ 0.00087062 = 2.0764 BTC [-]
ozbot: Bitcoin Mutual Fund
ThickAsThieves: "In other word's this isn't Tat Investments, exotic complex virtual bonds, that make Chase and Goldman derivatives look like a joke."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 17391 @ 0.00019 = 3.3043 BTC [-] {5}
KRS-One: heh
kakobrekla: stop with the slander
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0057 = 0.2052 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 23 @ 0.00500101 = 0.115 BTC [+]
pankkake: scammers now pretty much always start with "I've been a victim of scams myself"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21360 @ 0.0008639 = 18.4529 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: dirty salesman basics
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8672 @ 0.0008568 = 7.4302 BTC [-]
punkman: "I'm so "experienced" I've invested in two dozen scams."
punkman: shut up and take my money!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.0055 = 1.65 BTC
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so you're a global warming denier i take it.
mircea_popescu: shame on you!
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> oh hell yes << hehehehe
mircea_popescu: block height 16400 ftw.
mircea_popescu: pankkake signs of a mature scammarket.
mircea_popescu: well maybe not mature, but adolescent.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.00018576 = 0.6502 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: time to IPO revolutionary acne skin cream
mircea_popescu: "the secret MPEx doesn't want you to know about how a single mom made stock monyz working from the kitchen"
ThickAsThieves: TAT Spotted At Restaurant, You Won't Believe What We Saw!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC
mircea_popescu: "Dear @BTCFoundation, please eat shit and drop dead for promoting scumbags like @Mircea_Popescu #bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: dude when did that happen
mircea_popescu: fucking postmodernism.
mircea_popescu: the best part about google is that by googling mpoe-pr i get a link to her recent posts
ThickAsThieves: did you notice RPietilla's name now says he is slave to Goat?
ozbot: Twitter / BTCFoundation: #Bitcoin entrepreneur saves ...
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many more people enter bitcointalk googling for mpoe-pr than for anything else
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ahahaha what.
mircea_popescu: splendid
punkman: I only ever read MPOE-PR recent posts
ThickAsThieves: "rpietila, the Vassal of the Mighty Goat"
mircea_popescu: pankkake apparently he hates me and a fellow named d. cameron whoever that is
ThickAsThieves: he's also the one who Goat made a big trade with last year,
ThickAsThieves: thus, he is Goat
mircea_popescu: no wai he's goat.
mircea_popescu: goat is relatively dumb.
mircea_popescu: that guy had aptitude.
ThickAsThieves: maybe all the scams are goat
ThickAsThieves: maybe they are bros
mircea_popescu: goat is basically this lamer that likes to gossip about things pretending like he's related to them
mircea_popescu: you know the guy who's always "oh, universal pictures ? yeah my cousin works there"
ThickAsThieves: well he did pump COG pretty openly
mircea_popescu: he pumped a laundry list of failed bs pretty openly.
mircea_popescu: wasn't he pumping silver half year ago ?
mircea_popescu: back when it was, you know, 25 ?
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mircea_popescu: now, while he was involved with the pirate crap, and pumped it, and it failed,
mircea_popescu: i am confident he wasn't meaningfully involved with... silver.
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davout: pankkake: énorme
mircea_popescu: as in enormity ?
davout: no, more like amazing
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mircea_popescu: at least in romanian, "enormitate" means this incredibly stupid thing [to say]
davout: yes, in french too, "une énormité", exactly the same meaning
mircea_popescu: kind-of works the same way in english, and in french too
davout: but when you say it this way it means something like "fucking incredible"
davout: or "splendid"
mircea_popescu: i always wondered why it's not splentit.
mircea_popescu: what's did ever done for anyone.
ThickAsThieves: or why not splendorous
davout: splendiferous
davout: splendimagilistickexplialidorous
mircea_popescu: cause that sounds like it'd stink.
mircea_popescu: splendorous, splendodorous, same ballpark
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ThickAsThieves: Splendiferrous Inc, Our Iron is a Steel.
mircea_popescu: you mean our irony is a steal.
mircea_popescu: MP's MI5: someone said karpeles was spotted in the bahamas
mircea_popescu: MP himself: waldo karpeles ?
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mircea_popescu: MP's MI5: no, piggy karpeles
ThickAsThieves: lol i was just gonna say Pooh Bear Karpeles
ThickAsThieves: stuck in a tree again
mircea_popescu: apparently i'm rate limited
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mircea_popescu: yes, there does exist a network of individuals who operate outside of the constraints of "normal society"
mircea_popescu: such as for instance, laws.
mircea_popescu: that part is correct.
mircea_popescu: who does wikipedia think those people are ?
mircea_popescu: why... bloggers. and... twitter derps.
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ThickAsThieves: lowest of the low
mircea_popescu: i mean... zero hedge tries to push a bitcoin bet site, gets humiliated like 10k to 1 by trilema
mircea_popescu: trilema is not a blog, however, not anymore than a mercedes is "white".
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KRS-One: .bait
mircea_popescu: now that's a blog that influences public oppinion, daily mail.
KRS-One: Behold, sexy olympians.
ozbot: Russia's female Olympians go on Sochi charm offensive with scantily clad photo-call | Mail Online
ThickAsThieves: their women arent bad
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KRS-One: Russian women are hawt.
mircea_popescu: it's so cool that pretty much everything women do is now merely a pretext for them to get porn careers.
mircea_popescu: and that everything the plebs do is pretty much a pretext for them being exploited, wikipedia chief example
KRS-One: Yes, mircea_popescu. Someone has to do it, preferrably them.
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mircea_popescu: god i'm so happy to have been born now rather than at any other time.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people actually felt this way historically.
KRS-One: In the mean time, I think my wife awaits in Germany. Wonder what the I.T. market for a gringo guy from the U.S. is like there.
ThickAsThieves: even being a celebrity means having to seriously ponder when/whether to do a sex tape
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much all it is, you now get the opportunity to show us your tits like we cared.
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KRS-One: mircea_popescu: being born in the 1930's might not have been bad.
mircea_popescu: you kidding ? with ww2 and everything ?
KRS-One: in the U.S. at any rate.
KRS-One: In the U.S. specifically.
mircea_popescu: so what, you can be raised by a poor mother working two shifts and an absent father who then came back as an antsy alcoholic ?
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KRS-One: yep, amazing growth and good life from the late 40's to the late 70's.
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mircea_popescu: nah, it was bullshit, i couldn't have stood the 50s
ThickAsThieves: plus our "time" is more than 10 years
mircea_popescu: where's the naked womenz only parties there ?
KRS-One: Ya the 50's seemed like the new trends would have been annoying as fuck.
ThickAsThieves: living in the 30s means living in the 50s too
mircea_popescu: and besides, then the 60s which deeply sucked
mircea_popescu: and the the 70s and disco ?!~
mircea_popescu: give me a motherfucking break, i'd have been breivik
KRS-One: Americans had it very well all of those decades.
mircea_popescu: yeah, if they were braindead.
chetty: so what would be a good decade?
mircea_popescu: which... you know, the braindead have it very well today, i'm sure.
ThickAsThieves: 90s were cool
davout: maybe 100 years from now mircea futurescu will say the exact same thing
KRS-One: I noted no lack of prosperity.
mircea_popescu: chetty 1990s in romania and 2000-now globally.
ThickAsThieves: but i suspect 2010s will be similar
mircea_popescu: davout i hope so for his sake.
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: the 90s was my time..best music and everything.
the20year: US has had it pretty good all the 20th century
KRS-One: thank you the20year
the20year: 90s music? lol
mircea_popescu: maybe the 90s were ok in grenwich village too, but i wouldn't trade.
KRS-One: yeh 90s music was great imo..it improved the 80's and launched a new rock and roll
ThickAsThieves: 90s was pretty great for music
the20year: like?
mircea_popescu: like nirvana.
KRS-One: word
ThickAsThieves: like NWA
mircea_popescu: like a good chunk of iron maiden
KRS-One: fuck'n-A ThickAsThieves
the20year: iron maiden started in the 70s
KRS-One: Tool
mircea_popescu: yeah, even the rap/w/e stuff black people did in the 90s was pretty cool.
ThickAsThieves: like every respected hip hop group known today really
the20year: Iron maiden has been good since they started, and the 90s weren't really significantly better than any other decade
ThickAsThieves: Pharcyde, Tribe, etc
the20year: Nirvana is ok for people with poor musical taste
KRS-One: iron maiden is f'n amazing
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the20year: Tool is one of th few 90s bands I like
ThickAsThieves: god i hate tool
KRS-One: whut
KRS-One: blasphemy
ThickAsThieves: it's bullshit music, sorry
the20year: tool ,alice in chains, a few others like them are the only noteworthy 90s bands
KRS-One: thats cool..thickasthieves, got one better?
ThickAsThieves: comparible to tool?
KRS-One: either
KRS-One: A Perfect Circle
davout: the coolest music happened before 1950
mircea_popescu: the20year you like tool and discuss the musical taste of people liking nirvana ?!
ThickAsThieves: circle sucks too
mircea_popescu: this is like... ok you're banned on music criticism nao
KRS-One: Wow ThickAsThieves rly
the20year: In the grand scheme fo things, tool is only mediocre
KRS-One: they are a percussion band
mircea_popescu: but in no scheme of things in which nirvana sucks tool can be mentioned.
the20year: And nirvana worse than that, of all the music out there, 50 years from now, very little from the 90s will be played
ThickAsThieves: tool is like jazz for metalheads
mircea_popescu: other than for some sort of ronald mcdonald reason
mircea_popescu: nirvana will be played.
the20year: Nirvana will be one of the very little that will be played
mircea_popescu: for that matter, what do you play from 1940 ?
ThickAsThieves: i'll listen to a little Ella Fitzgerald
the20year: By 1998, in the US there was plenty of 80s being played still, today there is very little 90s music being played outside of things like nirvana ,tool, apc, metallica, and other similar hard rock type bands
mircea_popescu: irene, irene and like what, turkey in the straw.
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the20year: The pop of the 80s is still being played along with the pop of the 60s and 70s, not so much for pop music from the 90s
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know she was like 10 in 1940
ThickAsThieves: <the20year> By 1998, in the US there was plenty of 80s being played still, today there is very little 90s music being played outside of things like nirvana ,tool, apc, metallica, and other similar hard rock type bands --- that is not how you sort things
the20year: How often do you hear nsync or 98 degrees, or new kids on the block on the radio?
ThickAsThieves: Ella Jane Fitzgerald (April 25, 1917 – June 15, 1996)
the20year: (Almost never, and that's because they're compeletely irrelevant)
ThickAsThieves: you examples are so off
the20year: go look at the billboard top 20 from 1991 through 1999
ThickAsThieves: first, you dont judge quality of a decade's music by what is currently on the radio
the20year: and tell me how often any of those songs are continued to be played
mircea_popescu: anyway. 1940 really means wenn die soldaten and embrasse-moi
ThickAsThieves: second, you dont use shitty pop commercials as exmples
mircea_popescu: very little english language crap
mircea_popescu: or w/e you call it, pop.
ThickAsThieves: radio is mortally wounded, probly not a good signal for anything
the20year: There are exceptions to my statement of 'the 90s sucked musically' but considering how much music was put out during that decade
ThickAsThieves: a signal of what blue collar workers are willing to put up with at work maybe
benkay: blue collar workers don't get a say in what's pumped in their ears on-shift.
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ThickAsThieves: then immigrant workers, sry
mircea_popescu: srsly doods. la vie en rose!
mircea_popescu: that's 1940. not w/e dubious jazz you can't even name that was barely getting started.
davout: srsly?
mircea_popescu: davout yeah.
benkay: wow wenn die soldaten is like 9 minutes long
mircea_popescu: hymne a l'amour etc.
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mircea_popescu: what was le contrebandier, like 55 i guess
KRS-One: 1930's, 1940's jazz was amazing.
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mircea_popescu: KRS-One name something. no googling.
KRS-One: Count Basie
mircea_popescu: (i don't dispute it was great. i dispute you can even name it)
KRS-One: Louis armstrong
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KRS-One: umms
mircea_popescu: you had me at basie :D
KRS-One: I used to play trumpet in grade school and i was well schooled in music and music composition.
KRS-One: I'd have to sit and think to remember more.
davout: KRS-One: trumpet looks like a fucking hard instrument
KRS-One: It took me years, but I'm sure you can say that about any instrument.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the 40s armstrong was sutck in tin pan alley, dunno how many people even knew he existed
KRS-One: really?
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of how it will play with the 90s or whatever other decade. we're probably so badly deluged in all the crap
mircea_popescu: that people in 2050 with a functional musicgoogle will be wtf, you had nothing audible in 2013 ? how about xyz
mircea_popescu: and we'll be like... wtf is x, y or z even, never heard it
KRS-One: not sure what to make of current stuff, a lot of crap out there now..unless its my tastes changing.
ThickAsThieves: it's both
davout: thoughts about the "Frantic" movie ?
KRS-One: Dizzie Gillespie another great one
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: ya think? do you notice that too
mircea_popescu: davout meh.
KRS-One: Oh Duke Ellington did some of my favorite hits.
ozbot: Frantic pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
KRS-One: I tried so hard to play his music..Benny Goodman had a great band.
davout: mircea_popescu: thx
davout: oh wait
davout: worse than a paywall
davout: a romanianwall
KRS-One: Some very well cultered people in this chat room, I'm in good company.
mircea_popescu: davout well... you should be able to read romanian
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mircea_popescu: it's like... a latin language, like french.
mircea_popescu: you know how all chinese ppl speak "chinese" and indians from india "indian" ?
mircea_popescu: so too, the yurpeans.
davout: let me give it a try
ThickAsThieves: i know some portuguese and it's not much help for romanian
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mircea_popescu: i know romanian and french and spanish and as a result portuguese is directly transparent
ThickAsThieves: seems like Italian is the link between
mircea_popescu: i never actually learned it
davout: yeah, if you know FR+ES PT is easily understandable
ThickAsThieves: if you know spanish you know portuguese, especially brazilian style
mircea_popescu: amusingly, i notice the 1st comment is from a french speaking emanuelle seigner fan.
mircea_popescu: with a broken link
davout: not sure he's french
mircea_popescu: WHY ROT, WEB! WHYYYYYYY
KRS-One: to me Brazilian Portugese doesn't sound spanish.
KRS-One: And the Cubans are out to win a race for speed for some reason..Can never follow them.
mircea_popescu: KRS-One that's where romanian is important.
mircea_popescu: once you follow a conversation between two women speaking simultaneously at about 120wpm
mircea_popescu: you can follow anything
KRS-One: it is probably an older language too right?
KRS-One: It would make sense if so.
mircea_popescu: well anything'd be an older language than creoles spoken in the new world.
KRS-One: I don't know much about language but find it interesting..funny how many words are similar.
davout: so isn't the first sentence something like "Frantic is the exact kind of movie for Harrison Ford" ?
davout: or "that he could have made" ?
mircea_popescu: "Frantic e exact genul de film care-i place lui Harrison Ford. " = frantic is exactly the type of film hf likes.
davout: genul == type ?
davout: kind ?
mircea_popescu: yup. genus
KRS-One: Seems very much like Latin.
davout: explain "care-i place lui"
davout: care-i verb ?
mircea_popescu: care which. place, a placea, to like. -i lui pronouns required by the verbal form
mircea_popescu: i references the film, lui is the possesive for ford.
davout: so place is the actual verb, care the complement and hf the subject
ozbot: Bitcoin user Amir Taaki defends Bitcoin crypto currency (04Feb14) - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: omg even BBC gives him air?
Apocalyptic: looks like he's high
davout: i'm in love with his accent
benkay: oh are we talking about bitcoin again?
jurov: no, about future billionaires
mircea_popescu: wait amir with a moustache ?
mircea_popescu: this should be an altcoin.
mircea_popescu: AMC - amir with moustache coin
mircea_popescu: does it make him look all manly ?
davout: freddy-mercury manly
ThickAsThieves: he looks at his absolute grossest
davout: ThickAsThieves: LOL
mircea_popescu: holy shit piaf's le contrebandier doies nopt exist on youtube. at all.
mircea_popescu: this scourge upon culture!
davout: i found one, but it has been removed due to copyright complaints apparently
mircea_popescu: yeah, see, then all the tinfoil hatters rant about da gubbermint.
mircea_popescu: Ohé, la douane ! Ohé, les gabelous !
mircea_popescu: Lâchez tous les chiens et puis planquez-vous au fond de vos cabanes.
mircea_popescu: Regardez sur la dune l'homme qui passe là-bas. Il est pourtant seul mais vous n'l'aurez pas.
mircea_popescu: Il s'fout d'la douane...
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so you wouldn't do him ?
ThickAsThieves: would not do
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ThickAsThieves: sounds like pooping wasnt easy back then
mircea_popescu: i wonder what "champagne velvet" from terre haute, ind bottling co tasted like
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mircea_popescu: the guy looks gay.
ThickAsThieves: he probly was
ozbot: Was Philip Seymour Hoffman gay?
ThickAsThieves: i have this working theory/curiosity that a majority of artists are gay
ThickAsThieves: the ones that excel most
ThickAsThieves: even Jay Z
mircea_popescu: also jewish.
ThickAsThieves: Kendrick Lamar, Pharrell (rap)
KRS-One: Pharell is good
KRS-One: JayZ sucks imo..not sure how he got so big
ozbot: Philip Seymour Hoffman overdose death: 4 suspected heroin dealers arrested - NY Daily News
benkay: sounds like the cops just wanted an excuse to bust that ring
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: You could be right with that theory, artists can be that way or go both ways.
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ThickAsThieves: the dealers were jewish
KRS-One: oi vey
benkay: Thomas Cushman, 48; Robert Vineberg, 57; Juliana Luchkiw, 22; and Max Rosenblum, 22
benkay: what, you think the kids were actually moving weight?
ThickAsThieves: also the more highly intelligent people i'm friends with seem sexually confused at best
KRS-One: not sure there is a connection with intelligence
ThickAsThieves: i suspect there is
ThickAsThieves: something about self-awareness or something
mircea_popescu: juliana was indeed lucky.
mircea_popescu: pretty much erry night
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KRS-One: Self awareness has an attribute of realizing we are animals, but I'm not sure I agree with all that.
KRS-One: i think its in the genes
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves didja count me as confused at best ?
ThickAsThieves: well i wouldnt do so in a judging way
ThickAsThieves: sex is way to complicated for that
ThickAsThieves: but yes, you have issues too
ThickAsThieves: whatever
mircea_popescu: you kidding me, i'm like the one left rock of actual straightness in a sea of you bicurious drug addled peeps!
ThickAsThieves: oh i was expanding beyong just gayness
mircea_popescu: into what ?!
ThickAsThieves: i was saying confused mor egenerally
mircea_popescu: well then everyone's confused.
pankkake: straight/gay is the most boring sexual distinction
benkay: unless you have sex only in the missionary position you're a fucking weirdo, mircea_popescu.
ThickAsThieves: it seems mnore particular with intellectuals
mircea_popescu: pankkake why ? it's fundamental yo.
benkay: having sex at all makes one a fucking weirdo these days. more than one partner? you're at least three standard deviations out.
mircea_popescu: benkay you know tons of chicks actually love missionary ?
mircea_popescu: teh intromissionary position
benkay: intromissionary?
benkay: also yes i do but that's not the point i'm making.
benkay: (also come on does no one appreciate the standard deviation pun?)
ThickAsThieves: is it a pun?
mircea_popescu: it is kind of puny...
benkay: i forewent standard deviant 'cause i expect too much from y'all apparently
mircea_popescu: exercise for benkay and anyone else : let the standard deviations be calculated for one who only engages in sexual congress with members of one gender that accept as prerequisite that they may not have any say in when sex is happening nor in the choice of partners or activities.
KRS-One: there is a lot of gayness out there, in my .bait i find solitude.
KRS-One: .bait
benkay: .bait is a solitary activity, yes...
KRS-One: Mmm.
benkay: did you mean solace?
mircea_popescu: solaciousnessitude
benkay: don't know that that's a calculation i really have time or interest in. sounds more like piles of time spent surveying that'd be better spent recruiting the surveyed into my bed
benkay: time for*
KRS-One: Yes maybe thats a better word?
ThickAsThieves: they like WANT to be scammed
mircea_popescu: maybe that's how you recruit them ?
benkay: not a bad pitch
mircea_popescu: but anyway, since we're talking about recruiting, here's a ploy i invented during dinner earlier :
mircea_popescu: you sign up to a forum, under the pretense you are a time traveller from the future. you establish this persona, more or less humorously but intelligently,
benkay: "i'm doing a survey on sexual practices. oh hey! you're right up my alley - come with me, i'm going to insert someone else in you."
mircea_popescu: then in due time you explain that the REASON you took the time trip is because the future sucks, and you are seeking your own mother in her youth to fuck her and so in causing a singularity erase that sucky future.
mircea_popescu: you further have identified her, and she is X
mircea_popescu: (obviousl;y some research as to the more nubile forum members being i norder)
KRS-One: oh wow
KRS-One: haha
mircea_popescu: and so there you go, she might as well say yes.
davout: ThickAsThieves: you are right, mircea_popescu has issues
mircea_popescu: davout omfg what!
KRS-One: interesting reading nevertheless! lol
ThickAsThieves: he's fulfilled too many fantasies obv
ThickAsThieves: now he has to make them up
mircea_popescu: fantasies are overrated
KRS-One: fantasies + mediatation is badass
davout: KRS-One: orly?
ThickAsThieves: mediation?
KRS-One: there is no telling where your mind can go if you let go
KRS-One: try it sometime..u can think some crazy shit..idk maybe its all the drugs i did
KRS-One: meditation is amazing
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davout: KRS-One: what? fantasies or meditation?
mircea_popescu: the toilet ?
KRS-One: davout: the combination
ThickAsThieves: you can think some crazy shit when youre bored too
mircea_popescu: like bitcoin
davout: KRS-One: when i sit I try to not think
KRS-One: perfect
BingoBoingo: Oh, the violence against math guy updated his locked BitBet thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431273.0;topicseen
davout: but i guess the point is to be aware of what happens not shut everything off
kakobrekla: locked thread
KRS-One: someone told me once about microdosing LSD...after a while he spoke perfect German without learning..wtf? I am still thinking he was bullshitting.
KRS-One: but who knows, never tried the stuff.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol with a stupid idea from last year
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the same stupid idea from last year that came out of that scamsite betsofbitco.in as well.
pankkake: http://i.imgur.com/aoVkQ8x.png mining at that pool is getting annoying
BingoBoingo: This allowing people to bet on a sure thing, but at a loss was a genius idea.
mircea_popescu: lol it was kakobrekla's
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mircea_popescu: no wait wait, i'm getting the credit. it was mine. kakobrekla just implemented it badly.
mircea_popescu: pankkake what, you don't like altdust ?
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davout: so if frantic isn't that good i guess i'll have to settle on robocop 3
benkay: i saw a trailer for a new robocop last night
benkay: i love how american movies are 90% animated these days. actual actors must just be too damn expensive or the profit margins just darn slim.
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davout: i watched it, it's fun
pankkake: so, does current detroit look like robocob detroit yet?
mircea_popescu: o thats right, robocop was in detroit huh
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davout: i watched the original one a week ago, it is amazing, the haircuts, the glasses, the music everything
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58066666 = 1.742 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: you won't catch me in detroit any time soon. the only dystopian megalopolis i'm interested in is buenos aires.
benkay: Detroit isn't even a proper city any more.
davout: weren't they supposed to be bankrupt?
Namworld: I hope Detroi becomes a complete ghost town eventually.
Namworld: I need a ghost modern city I won't have to take a plane accross the oceans to see in China.
mircea_popescu: if your definition of ghost town allows for squatters you can probably check out washington dc
mircea_popescu: or cairo for that matter.
Namworld: Cairo has the same issue as China.
Namworld: Maybe not for you I guess eh
mircea_popescu: smaller ocean anyway
mircea_popescu: actually, california and generally the us west is littered in 100% abandoned towns
mircea_popescu: they may not be very big, maybe a square mile or two, but still
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> if your definition of ghost town allows for squatters you can probably check out washington dc <<< Asbury Park in NJ at least used to be ghostly
Namworld: If it's ghost enough, there won't be squatters, simply because there won't be food supplied to the area, because no shops open.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00085312 = 2.474 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: right. check out the litany of abandoned mining towns all through ca, az, nm etc
Namworld: Unless they eat the roaches feeding on wood and glue.
mircea_popescu: squatters don't normally have money to buy anything in a shop anyway, so it's even
Namworld: There's no food to steal or find in dumptser too without shops. That's the issue.
mircea_popescu: Kern county has i think 100 or so abandoned settlements
ThickAsThieves: this topic should be elaborated upon further
Namworld: I was kinda hoping for a ghost town large enough to have skyscrapers in disrepair.
ThickAsThieves: you want apocalypse
ThickAsThieves: go watch Jericho
ThickAsThieves: or Walking Dead
mircea_popescu: Namworld that's not possible for a strict reason of closeness.
mircea_popescu: skyscrapers are relatively new tech, economy doesn't shift fast enough to have those yet.
Namworld: I can't visit tv shows tat...
ThickAsThieves: virtually!
mircea_popescu: unless it;s mismanagement (there are in egypt some towns developed but never occupied say)
Namworld: I know, that's why I said I hope that's how Detroit ends up.
Namworld: Eventually become the first specimen.
ThickAsThieves: wouldnt such a place also be too dangerous to visit?
Namworld: Naaaaahhh
mircea_popescu: he has bitcoins, what danger.
ThickAsThieves: let's go hang out in that empty skyscraper
Namworld: Depends on how long it's been left in disrepair I guess.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves at least no plane's landing in that one naimean ?
ThickAsThieves: dunno, empty skyscrapers are bomb more than most no?
ThickAsThieves: to make new ones
mircea_popescu: not by mullahs
mircea_popescu: everyone else tends to give advance notice.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00085312 = 4.3509 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1214987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34452 @ 0.00085161 = 29.3397 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: Alibaba is such a shithole. Every other day they send me this useless email "Shop the best deals & discounted items!!!!11lol!!"
punkman: Mouser one the other hand is kinda nice, "You have purchased the following part number(s) from Mouser Electronics within the last two years. The manufacturer has published a Product Change Notice. Please click on manufacturer part number to view product details and similar products for replacements."
punkman: generic tact switch is EOL'd. Clearly I should know about this.
mircea_popescu: dude this bitcoin thing is such a ponzi
mircea_popescu: like the past week, right ? it lost like 30% of value and now... it stopped.
mircea_popescu: this is how all ponzi schemes go.
punkman: ponzi schemes need at least a decade too
ThickAsThieves: when does bitcoin IPO?
punkman: satoshi is just waiting for the right moment
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: funny thing too : back before the alt explosion, the #1 "criticism" the general public had was "bitcoin is a ponzi"
mircea_popescu: now that joe q random can happily make his own crypto-ponzi, nobody says the word anymore.
mircea_popescu: obviously the entire thing was powered by the general public's jealousy
mircea_popescu: much like the entire "my neighbour is rich clearly he stole it"
mircea_popescu: if somehow the entire neighbourhood goes into theft nobody complains about how the rich stoled it anymore. because fundamentally everyman's objection isn't that someone's rich
mircea_popescu: but that he himself isn't being allowed to steal.
ThickAsThieves: we should make a fake press release from the bitcoin foundation saying Bitcoin Files Secretly Files for IPO, after we buy a bunch of https://www.google.com/finance?q=BTC&ei=jef3UrjDG8PcsQe6hQE
ThickAsThieves: see which news outlet bites first
mircea_popescu: let rpietilla and his vassal goat do that.
punkman: half my neighbours squatted on the land with shitty little houses, until they got a proper title and sold off to someone that could build an apartment building
davout: ThickAsThieves: sounds like it could work
ozbot: (MKTW) Benton Capital Provides Update - WSJ.com
mircea_popescu: this matters!
mircea_popescu: the wsj yo! in the press!
ThickAsThieves: Apocalyptic / kakobrekla / jurov when will you release an altcoin exchange and host ATC trades?
mircea_popescu: one helluva balance sheet too
jurov: when mpex start accepting altcoins, then yes
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what's the hurry anyway.
ThickAsThieves: no one will sell to me!
jurov: and what about sth like X.ALT ?
mircea_popescu: aww poor tat.
mircea_popescu: you know someone in the thread was making an offer iirc ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 388 @ 0.00047495 = 0.1843 BTC [+] {8}
mircea_popescu: jurov you wanna mm that ?
jurov: haha why not?
mircea_popescu: you have significant atc holdings and the ability to make deliveries ?
jurov: no :(
ozbot: Creating my own bitcoin bank
mircea_popescu: "A bank isn't something you start on a whim after drawing a doodle on a napkin"
mircea_popescu: sez mpoe-pr
mircea_popescu: these fuckwits jesus christ. HI GUISE I R BANK H3
mircea_popescu: . If it's not immediately clear to you why citizen banking is a bad idea in general, I'd suggest paying the first person you can find who can draw a flow chart of themselves, your torso, and a scalpel to perform heart surgery on you; on the off-chance you survive, the recovery time'd make for good reconsidering.
mircea_popescu: god i love her.
ThickAsThieves: okay so what signal is it that the forum is starting to like her too?
ThickAsThieves: we've bottomed i guess
ThickAsThieves: Class of 2013, dismissed!
ThickAsThieves: time to educate a new bubble
mircea_popescu: that must be it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 399 @ 0.00300233 = 1.1979 BTC [-] {13}
pankkake: no glowing ignore makes minds more open?
ThickAsThieves: oh yeah, howd she lose that?
mircea_popescu: people are like pointing cubes and so on
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no idea
pankkake: because thermos can't fix the forum
mircea_popescu: punkman a wonder they missed out on adding thc in there
mircea_popescu: "home bitcoin simple trustworthy"
punkman: not related but BTC Bank is a thing: http://btcbank.com/
mircea_popescu: i rue the day i'll end up in a car filled with buttons labeled conveniently "easy" "simple" "fun" etc for my convenience.
mircea_popescu: who runs it ?
punkman: maybe they could make some money suing US companies with BTC in their name
ozbot: [SHA256] Altcoin
ThickAsThieves: lol ozbot
mircea_popescu: punkman oh i c. yeah.
jurov: maybe i said it already but still, how will the OS work in 50 years?
KRS-One: wait..wut
jurov: 1. linux will ahve one button "Do What I Mean"
punkman: if you would please scroll down to "Close Buisness Button" on thebcbank.com
jurov: 2. windows will have one button "Make Me Happy"
davout: punkman: this part is brilliant
jurov: 3. mac will have no button at all
davout: just below "Apporval Escillation"
mircea_popescu: jurov why, operated by anal dildo ?
mircea_popescu: davout you're making this shit up rite ?
davout: see for yourself
davout: how can this be
mircea_popescu: for the love of odesk already
davout: what did we do
mircea_popescu: why are children allowed out of the mines again ?
mircea_popescu: i tell you, i read those stories about x company using forced child labour and my only two thoughts are
punkman: they will soon be in the bitcoin mines again
davout: "Your balance : 5 POTATOES"
mircea_popescu: a. i bet you they don't whip them nearly enough and b. why the fuck aren't they doing this to white kids already.
KRS-One: davout: link?
ThickAsThieves: "All security and fraud employees have access to immediately begin cold-storage draining of all accounts to cooresponding offline wallets to prevent any further loss of funds. "
KRS-One: from what I saw of odesk it seemed like a cesspool
davout: KRS-One: "not related but BTC Bank is a thing: http://btcbank.com/"
davout: oh no wrong link
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves mtgox ?
mircea_popescu: how can that thing lose funds. what funds.
KRS-One: hah
davout: mircea_popescu: right below "Apporval Escillation" XD
mircea_popescu: but hey, at least they say funds rather than founds.
davout: mircea_popescu: they'll fix it shortly
mircea_popescu: which you know... coulda been quite humorous. "hello, your founds are losts"
punkman: "All security and fraud employees have access to immediately begin cold-storage draining of all accounts to cooresponding offline wallets"
punkman: how do you go from cold storage to "offline" wallets?
ThickAsThieves: "Layers like an onion
ThickAsThieves: Nothing is 100% secure. For this reason we bild our systems in layers preventing attackers from accessing data even if they are able penetrate a system."
mircea_popescu: punkman you're like from the 70s daddy-o :D
ThickAsThieves: if ur bild they r come
punkman: is that a good thing?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves sounds like they also invented pantyhose.
mircea_popescu: punkman just meant we have already been wtf-ing at the exac tquote for like 20 seconds
mircea_popescu: which is the 70s on the information superhighway timeline
KRS-One: They can speel really well too.. "Close Buisness Button"
davout: ALTCOIN WAI U NO BUILD
punkman: I'm just adding to the history archives
mircea_popescu: bubbld buile
punkman: these logs are forever
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443108.msg5040231#msg5040231 << the answer, of course, is "because i am 12 and wat is dis"
ThickAsThieves: pankakke had a gun to my head
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 216 @ 0.0055 = 1.188 BTC
KRS-One: If all security and fraud employees have access to drain the accounts that means everyone potentially has access..am I wrong?
ThickAsThieves: you are right, maybe it's a scam
KRS-One: Each user should have a wallet that only they can access.
mircea_popescu: no because then what banking
pankkake: davout: trying -qt or d?
mircea_popescu: davout you know, maybe at some point you should consider acquiring a compiler or build environment or something
mircea_popescu: nothing ever builds for you.
mircea_popescu: maybe drop the accents.
davout: i don't need to, i have an appstore yo
KRS-One: yeh try another build environment
ThickAsThieves: altcoin doesnt speak french
ThickAsThieves: it's true
davout: bitcoind built fine
mircea_popescu: you mean it's vrai
pankkake: depending on your boost version, you might have to revert something
mircea_popescu: he has boost ?
pankkake: gécécé
mircea_popescu: you know, incidentally, we should have french day sometime
mircea_popescu: when everyone's required to speak french and english => kick
davout: mot
davout: s/ehehe/éhéhé/
mircea_popescu: (ehehe cveut dire hehehe en francais)
davout: or if you speak html &eacute;h&eacute;h&eacute;
ThickAsThieves: do that on a day the media ends up in here
davout: pankkake and i shall now proceed to teach french to assets using only yo mamma jokes
ThickAsThieves: Your mom is so fat.
Namworld: utf-8. No more html entities.
davout: that didn't work so well
taub: oh holy cow
taub: i didnt realize gox hat withdrawl troubles again
mircea_popescu: s/héhéhé/ĥeĥeĥe
pankkake: that's one hipster h
taub: way out of the loop with bitcoin stuff
mircea_popescu: taub myeah.
Namworld: Old news taub
ThickAsThieves: it's 70s day
mircea_popescu: i just shaved and had my hair cut]
mircea_popescu: how am i ever going to fit in nao
davout: mircea_popescu: just keep the same suit
davout: :p
davout: bitcoin-actifs
mircea_popescu: #bitcoin-hyper-actifs
mircea_popescu: i checked it for good measure but no one there.
mircea_popescu: i guess the french don't have assets
davout: who cares, we have the "french-touch"
mircea_popescu: what, the plague ?
ThickAsThieves: turns everyting into mold?
davout: that's what you hear all day on the radio, "blah blah blah economy shitty, blah blah, but hey, french touch!"
mircea_popescu: i think the french touch is when the girl is working in the garden and you jump her
pankkake: french touch is basically some sort of French talent. of course, that talent goes to work elsewhere
mircea_popescu: and then a few hours later you find dry earth in your hair and get all wtf
mircea_popescu: Ħ << this is the french capital H.
mircea_popescu: as you can see, it's on stroke.
Namworld: French-Touch: 2D12 necrotic damage + 3D4 acid damage + 3D4 poison damage
davout: lol
Namworld: Very, very nasty
mircea_popescu: that's the french kiss
mircea_popescu: keep your bodyparts straight,
mircea_popescu: even if the french don't.
mircea_popescu: also, when moiety comes back we gotta do "moque l'ecosse" day.
jurov: Ħôtel
mircea_popescu: Ŵĥ♀ŗŧeł
mircea_popescu: look ma, i speak thai!
pankkake: or 13 year old girl
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.0008546 = 25.7662 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.0008502 = 11.8603 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00546032 = 0.1802 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12149947 = 0.6075 BTC [+] {5}
moiety: bonjour monsieurs, que quelqu'un a dit tartan?!
davout: moiety: énorme!
mircea_popescu: tartarin de tartarascogne!
mircea_popescu: i dunno in what shitty country that's the average woman srsly.
davout: which one are you referring to?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the one on the right.,
mircea_popescu: barbie is about 20. the average twenty year old is not built like a flatbed truck
mircea_popescu: maybe in like south america or some shit.
mircea_popescu: french polynesia
davout: lol
pankkake: both are hideous
mircea_popescu: yes but only one made a pretense to accuracy
mircea_popescu: the other's just a toy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10655 @ 0.00085626 = 9.1235 BTC [+]
pankkake: left is a giraffe with no boobs, right is a trunk with no boobs
davout: does it claims it represents the average *20* woman ?
davout: or just the average woman?
davout: s/claims/claim/
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Jere_Jones now is the time when you go "o hello assets, you were right, i was wrong, thank you for advising me even if i was too clueless to understand you know much better than me"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pankkake: and missing the sexiest body part, the navel
KRS-One: eww
davout: i just learned a new english word, yay!
mircea_popescu: davout which ?
davout: navel
pankkake: navel, or belly button
mircea_popescu: navet lol
mircea_popescu: davout i guess you're right, a large part of the problem was semantical anyway
davout: indeed, as hitler once said: "most problems are semitic"
Jere_Jones: o hello assets, you were right, i was wrong, thank you for advising me even if i was too clueless to understand you know much better than me
Duffer1: it's ok bro
Duffer1: lets hug it out
Jere_Jones: I resisted the advice, but in the end, I did follow it.
mircea_popescu: smart guy.
mircea_popescu: post averted, i was just about to publish a rant about how they jus' don
mircea_popescu: 't listen.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.12246425 = 1.7145 BTC [+] {10}
mircea_popescu: but tbh much happier this way.
mircea_popescu: less work.
Jere_Jones: I'm glad that I could save you some work.
moiety: so you don't want me to give Valeria Lukyanova a call then mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: moiety whossat and why not ?
mircea_popescu: o the tiraspol chick
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's not such a rare body type for white eastern girls. pretty much the true caucasian type.
moiety: yep, she talks to aliens you know
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.07325 = 0.1465 BTC [-]
moiety: it's not rare when you remove a rib or two, no. Aside from that, it's her makeup that looks really out of place
mircea_popescu: she actually missing ribs ?
moiety: yeah shehad a couple removed she said once
moiety: refuses to give actual age
mircea_popescu: she can't be over 30 can she ?
KRS-One: if you are a man and have some ribs removed you can give yourself oral..so the story goes.
KRS-One: .bait
mircea_popescu: see ? you gotta rub the clit a little.
mircea_popescu: nipples don't do anything.
KRS-One: I'll try that next time..thought ozbot was a dude.
KRS-One: That girls ass on teh Saving Abel album revs my motor
moiety: KRS-One: that rumour comes from Prince, it's what he apparently had done
moiety: mircea_popescu: nah, can't be over 30. I'm thinking she is protecting future guesses down the line
mircea_popescu: maybe she's just a traditionally brought up girl that doesn't suck it, doesn't swallow and doesn't share her age
mircea_popescu: she just does weird makeup, has boobjobs and ribs removed that's all
moiety: of course she doesn't, she's been too busy locked in her room piling on the makeup or in a hospital ward!
mircea_popescu: u jelly ?
moiety: there is a creepy man version ken .. whats minus bait?! http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Justin_Jedlica_Human_Ken_doll.jpg
mircea_popescu: moiety if you know how to code you can prolly make an irc bot to do men pics
mircea_popescu: maybe command could be ..beat
Duffer1: .bloke
moiety: my coding would probably return pics of caravans or something
moiety: lol .bloke is good
mircea_popescu: irc bots are not that hard, you just get a supybot to run and then learn to tweak it
mircea_popescu: if you're not doing anything else, learning to turn a new trick can only improve your street value.
moiety: i had started a discussion point bot, to give people things to talk about so i didn't have to drag them through daily conversation so much
mircea_popescu: you know what a markov chain is ?
moiety: no...?
mircea_popescu: hm. anyone have a link handy to that number guesser asciilifeform made ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html moiety try that, see if you can get above 70% or so
moiety: kk if you don't hear back from me, i jumped out the window at a 1% score
mircea_popescu: don't do anything drastic like hurting yourself over failure
ozbot: Man vs. Machine.
mircea_popescu: if you must have the negative reinforcement just do humiliation,
mircea_popescu: post pics with stuff inserted or w/e.
mircea_popescu: much healtheir on the long run
moiety: ha that is a neat little page
mircea_popescu: the "brain" involved is an application of markov chains.
mircea_popescu: they're famous for allowing computers to fool humans.
moiety: fuck is that where captchas came from?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.073 = 0.146 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: captchas come from stupid, this comes from math
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05074957 = 0.203 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: [71.43 think i will stop there.] ty, this is a good example
jurov: lol that would be proper anticaptcha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.000851 = 28.3809 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: no humans allowed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12400001 = 0.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00085081 = 6.7214 BTC [-]
mod6: ;;view
gribble: #19541 Sun Feb 9 17:54:58 2014 mod6 BUY 100000.0 ATC @ 1.8e-06 BTC ((Want to buy up to 100,000 ATC for around 0.00000180 BTC each, ~0.18 BTC total. Smaller amounts ok too! Must have WoT rating. PM me, lets make a deal!)
ozbot: 'Dumb Starbucks' stupid mystery: Who's behind the faux coffee front in Los Feliz? | 89.3 KPCC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12400001 = 0.372 BTC [+]
nubbins`: lovely use of parody
moiety: the coffee is the art
moiety: lol nice. so who is up for dumb gox?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+]
moiety: you think this will lead to more?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018689 = 0.1869 BTC [+]
mod6: ok well, guess its order #19542 now
mod6: cleaned it up a bit. better rate if someone has mpex account and can receive btc through there.
mod6: (will PUSH)
mircea_popescu: moiety o hey, you actualy did it ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck waits an hour for a cup of coffee
mircea_popescu: i don't care it is free, what bummery is this
nubbins`: who camps outside a store for a cheap tv?
mircea_popescu: moiety haha over a little more than 6 plays
nubbins`: i think it's an american thing
pankkake: coffee is typically a I WANT THIS NOW thing with me
mircea_popescu: nubbins` but a tv i can see. some poor people save for a tv.
nubbins`: pankkake, +1
mircea_popescu: who the fuck saves for a cup of coffee
pankkake: especially since it comes out faster than tea, I conditionned myself like that
nubbins`: poor people who like starbucks, that's who
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's service, right ? the value of a cup of coffee in and of itself is ~zero
nubbins`: FWIW, starbucks regular drip coffee isn't any more expensive than any other coffee shop
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what's to like ?! it's a cafeteria.
nubbins`: tastes like shit for reasons which many obstinately ignore, but that's another discussion
mircea_popescu: "Despite the popularity, customers seemed confused about what exactly was going on."
nubbins`: so, bitcoin
mircea_popescu: "I have no idea what's going on yet i'm stuffing shit in my mouth"
mircea_popescu: it is beyond me how that entire thing continues to function.
nubbins`: you'd be surprised how many people have said to me "YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU'LL GET SUED" after seeing some star wars parody shirts we printed for a client
pankkake: from what I understand it's a place you go to show how cool you are
mircea_popescu: pankkake wouldn't all that be nullified by a) it being free and b) you waiting in line ?
nubbins`: pankkake, the feeling of power than one gets from having a very long-winded, very specific drink order plays a part in this too
mircea_popescu: wait what ?!
pankkake: of course not you have to stand in line in cool places
pankkake: otherwise it can't be cool
mircea_popescu: wait wait. so basically... they want to be me, except with something small that they can understand. it's not "build me a thing so and so and back and forth", which is what execs do all day.
nubbins`: "i'll have a coffee" is what a prole says
mircea_popescu: it's "make me a coffee so and so etc", which hey, ceo for drinks ?
nubbins`: "i'll have a quad grande six pump vanilla one inch steamed breve Americano" is what a cultured person says
mircea_popescu: i usually say "order me a coffee"
nubbins`: "order me a triple venti decaf 120 degrees skinny hazelnut wet latte"
mircea_popescu: well she's supposed to know what to order
mod6: speaking of starbucks.. i hardly ever go there. but the other day i was like, "hi, tall black coffee plz." then they served me the kiddy cup. im like "wtf!?"
nubbins`: fwiw these are seriously drinks you can order
nubbins`: mod6, tall is small
moiety: mircea_popescu: wait, lmao was i only meant to have 6 tries?!
mircea_popescu: what's a venti ?
nubbins`: it's italian for 20
nubbins`: and thus, 20oz of drink
mircea_popescu: moiety no, i mean, do like 200
mircea_popescu: but the italians don't use ounces
moiety: and re coffee: my first thought was what are they serving? there's no licence and it's free, could be anything
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: nor do they allow starbucks in their country
nubbins`: (lel x100)
mod6: yeah, they told me that, and im like thinkin... 'only in starbucks-universe, when someone orders a `tall` they give you a kiddy cup'
mircea_popescu: so how do you say tall, grande ?
moiety: ahhh but but but mircea_popescu ... i'm at 71% lol that won't stick if i keep playing XD
nubbins`: mod6, the kiddy cup is a "short"
nubbins`: from smallest to biggest: short, tall, grande, venti
mod6: *sigh*
mircea_popescu: what happens if i order insalata caprese ?
nubbins`: short isn't on the menu
mod6: when did coffee get so complicated?
mircea_popescu: mod6 when the us got involved.
mod6: ^^
moiety: what on earth do they call espressos?
nubbins`: mod6, when the average disposable income reached a certain point
pankkake: I've been almost a week without coffee, this discussion is torture!
nubbins`: moiety: espresso :)
mircea_popescu: pankkake so have some coffee
moiety: nubbins`: so disappointing...
nubbins`: nod.
pankkake: forbidden by my doctor
moiety: decaff!
mircea_popescu: your doctor who is french forbid to you, a frenchman, coffee ? and this happened in france ?
mircea_popescu: what are you supposed to do after lunch ?
nubbins`: drink cigarette tea?
moiety: malpractice!
mod6: cocaine
pankkake: it's temporary of course
pankkake: no alcohol either
pankkake: no sport (that, I can do)
mircea_popescu: and no girljuice ?
nubbins`: "The Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie Iced Vanilla Double-Shot Gingerbread Frappuccino Extra Hot With Foam Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended, One Sweet'N Low and One Nutrasweet, and Ice is the longest possible order you could order at Starbucks."
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mircea_popescu: half-soy ?
mircea_popescu: what's the other half ?
mod6: holy shit nubbins`
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, milk
pankkake: so I guess starbucks, with macdonalds, is a place where I will never understand orders
moiety: you poor soul pankkake how long have you got to suffer this lifestyle?
mircea_popescu: but that's not nonfat
nubbins`: skim milk.
pankkake: moiety: hopefully just a few days
mircea_popescu: moiety he could just get an enema, but he's too bicurious for that.
pankkake: left
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pankkake: sadly only straight
nubbins`: “This is exactly why I only order the Blueberry Muffins from Starbucks.” ~ Oscar Wilde
moiety: lol
mircea_popescu: what happens if you go "vodka"
moiety: gonna make kiwi and apple muffins tomorrow
nubbins`: confused looks
pankkake: what would happen if I go to there and ask for coffee, black?
moiety: sounds like a plan to find out mircea_popescu
nubbins`: they ask if you want a dark or medium roast
moiety: they probably wouldn't understand pankkake
mircea_popescu: i don't think they have one in this town, and likely i wouldn't want to go there anyway
nubbins`: they actually wonder if you'd like a dark roast or pure carbon
nubbins`: but they say "dark or medium"
mircea_popescu: what if you go there and tell the girl "i just want you for the sex" ?
moiety: i never know if im in starbucks or costa coffee
moiety: i think they call the police mircea_popescu
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, they pour scalding water on you
mircea_popescu: how do they call the police ? "hello officer. vente low fat nutrasour evilguy!!!!" ?
nubbins`: notably, international starbucks locations all use the same terminology
nubbins`: so you can go to a starbucks in, say, romania and order the same drink you do in seattle
moiety: lololololol
mircea_popescu: but i don't order it in seattle either
mircea_popescu: so i guess this is true...
nubbins`: a hypothetical you
mircea_popescu: that could be a song
nubbins`: not even mcdonald's provides this level of americanization
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mircea_popescu: like for a chick with a guitar
nubbins`: "i guess this is true... a hypothetical you..."
mircea_popescu: "a hypotetical you darlin'
mircea_popescu: ridin' a hipopotamus
mircea_popescu: could order in a hypopotetical romania
nubbins`: "complex coffee for two..."
mircea_popescu: the same coffee he wouldn't order in seattle either"
moiety: i really want coffee now too
pankkake: I need to find more of the coffee I got at christmas. from tanzania
nubbins`: know what pisses me off about tanzanian coffee?
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mircea_popescu: that it spins around your kitchen screaming ?
nubbins`: no, that you can only buy peaberry coffee from there
davout: "complex coffee for two..." <<< lmao
mircea_popescu: or is that the tanzanian toffee
mod6: haha
nubbins`: that's tasmanian
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's just the italian spelling
dub: why this talk of starbucks and coffee
mircea_popescu: dub because people saw dumb on a marquee and got all excited
nubbins`: seriously tho.
dub: if you like coffee you've never been to startbucks
mircea_popescu: "o, it's our time now!!"
nubbins`: on average, 5% of coffee beans are peaberries.
nubbins`: and yet EVERY BAG OF COFFEE YOU CAN FIND from tanzania is 100% peaberries
nubbins`: and it's almost impossible to find a non-tanzanian peaberry
pankkake: what's peaberry?
mircea_popescu: they're probably peeberries anyway
nubbins`: this is for no good reason other than some asshole decades ago decided "hey, i'll sell all these peaberries as a tanzanian thing"
nubbins`: pankkake, it's when there's one bean in the cherry instead of two
nubbins`: left is peaberry, right is normal
davout: it looks like potato-coffee
pankkake: oh… I don't remember how mine was
mircea_popescu: scam. my coffee was liquid
mircea_popescu: none of this solid fruit looking stuff
nubbins`: peaberry coffee is very dry
pankkake: thankfully you put water in it
nubbins`: feels like tea in your mouth
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nubbins`: some people prefer peaberry because they've been more carefully selected, but.. shrug
nubbins`: dub: my first coffee experiences as an adult were starbucks
nubbins`: then one day i had a real cup
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nubbins`: amazing bot
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
nubbins`: just checkin
dub: I'd die before going to starbucks
nubbins`: that's a bit extreme
pankkake: I don't think you are allowed in without a macbook anyway
nubbins`: ^ heh
mircea_popescu: o look, davout uses lvmh for a compiler.
nubbins`: saw a photo once of some asshole with a desktop computer set up in a starbucks
davout: mircea_popescu: hehe
mod6: nubbins`: he was there for the lan party
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nubbins`: speaking of compiling, eulora fans are clamouring for a new release
nubbins`: mod6: lan, lattes and ___?
mircea_popescu: yeah, i know.
mircea_popescu: lan, lattes and lycantrophy
mod6: laaaaaaaaaag
nubbins`: there ya go
davout: i'll have a Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie compiler pl0x
nubbins`: i have a friend who used to work at a starbucks
nubbins`: the assholes would be secretly given decaf mon-thurs and regular on fridays
nubbins`: start the day off with a nice migraine
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mircea_popescu: pool rate 373GH/s whoa altcoin is diggin' it
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you mean that camel piss is so bad people who drink it regularly can't tell decaf from normal ?
mircea_popescu: i can tell you if the milk is 2% or 2.5% ffs.
mod6: "i paid $8 for it, it /must/ be what I ordered!"
mircea_popescu: well then everyone's happy.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: it's burnt to char, it all tastes the fucking same
nubbins`: BBL CHILI :DDDDDD
mircea_popescu: hey this blockr.io thing is neat.
mod6: ya!
jurov: gentlemen, should i happen to end up in starbucks again,
jurov: whats the the code for proper, nicely smelling, italian espresso?
copumpkin: "un espresso per favore"
moiety: i might just go and make muffins now, to go with coffee
jurov: so far i only attained some unidenfifiable brown beverage
mircea_popescu: jurov mezzo serbatoio benzina, schiuma greggio e stronzi oca galleggianti
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jurov: haha
jurov: and the other day we went trying taco bell "they rly eat this????"
mircea_popescu: might take a venti or two in there, not sure.
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jurov: everyone around here got addicted to original lavazza/franck and he like
jurov: i don't see starbucks happening here anytime soon
herbijudlestoids: mornin chaps
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jurov: evening herbi
jurov: had cofee already?
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herbijudlestoids: jurov: i dont drink coffee
KRS-One: people where i live even make fun of taco bell...we call it "taco hell"
moiety: i have never sampled a taco in my life
jurov: didn't miss anything
nubbins`: taco bell sucks
jurov: *you haven't missed anything
Duffer1: bro, do you even burrito
moiety: hi herbi!
nubbins`: fries supreme is pretty good
moiety: lol enchiladas ftw
nubbins`: rest of it is just boiled turd
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, you have 2% AND 2.5% milk?
mircea_popescu: some countries are shitty and do 2% and 3%. some countries are beter and do 2.5% and 4%
moiety: gold top is the way forward in the milk world
mircea_popescu: i normally drink 6% unpasteurised farm stuff
nubbins`: we have 0, 0.5, 1, 2, 3.25
nubbins`: and then various creams and blends
mircea_popescu: that's shitty.
nubbins`: i like 1%
samson_: Dairy fat is good for you
mircea_popescu: why not just buy some actual milk and water it down yourself then
nubbins`: because canada
mircea_popescu: 1% really has no business costing more than 1/3 of 3%
nubbins`: it's highly illegal to sell unpasteurized milk here
nubbins`: like, you'll go to jail
mircea_popescu: see ? shitty.
nubbins`: like, you can't even buy shares in a fucking cow
mircea_popescu: shares in a cow ?!
nubbins`: some farmer here used to sell unpasteurized milk
nubbins`: gov said no
mircea_popescu: what, you can't pool your moneyz with someone to buy a cow ?
nubbins`: so he sold essentially cow timeshares
nubbins`: entitling you to % of milk
nubbins`: unpasteurized, natch
nubbins`: GOV SAID NO
nubbins`: charged his ass
moiety: gold top is 5.4% fat
mircea_popescu: who asked gov ?
nubbins`: well that's the rub
mircea_popescu: moiety sounds like a shade under ok. they prolly skim a little to make butter or w/e
Duffer1: was he not selling it in a bag? that could be the trouble
nubbins`: no-fucking-body
nubbins`: Duffer1 this "bag" thing is a mainland construct
nubbins`: here we do not have bag milk
moiety: it's lovely mircea_popescu i could live off it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Island_milk it's just like cream really
moiety: the cows are smaller apparently
nubbins`: now ostensibly the people buying this unpasteurized milk knew what they were doing
nubbins`: but hey
nubbins`: father knows best!
mircea_popescu: it's actually kinda unhealthy for kids to never have raw milk
nubbins`: oh, psh
mircea_popescu: i guess it's ok if they were breastfed, but anyway
nubbins`: it's unhealthy to not consume the milk of another species?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` cows are not exactly another species.
moiety: a woman just breastfed a puppy to save it's life
nubbins`: this should be good
nubbins`: do tell!
mircea_popescu: the introduction of the cow marked a major explosion in human society and evolution
mircea_popescu: we aren't human in any sense if that sense excludes cows.
mircea_popescu: we're a construct of our history, and they're in there.
jurov: and goats
nubbins`: how about all the places where cow milk isn't really a thing?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` those places are real shitholes.
nubbins`: south korea
mod6: they dont' count
mod6: haha
mircea_popescu: there's a reason europe kicked butt, and that reason has a lot to do with cows
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nubbins`: sure, but that's like saying wheat isn't another species
mircea_popescu: this all aside : it's not unhealthy per se. it's just that the imune system beenfits from the "dirty" that cow milk is.
nubbins`: sure, yeah
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mircea_popescu: that's about all.
jurov: except in times where it got its butt kicked by herds from the east (that subsisted almost exclusively on milk)
nubbins`: feeding your kid worms is healthy if you wanna go that route
mircea_popescu: jurov something like that. blood too i guess
mircea_popescu: nubbins` but see, we're not culturally and anthropologically a thing that resulted from 5k years of worm eating.
mod6: we feed our kids happy meals and grape soda... so there you hvae it.
mod6: 2 litres at a time!!!!!1
mircea_popescu: when you say "human" you say that kind of chimp which domesticated cows and then drank their milk and so on and so forth
nubbins`: i'll have a 2 liter happy meal please!
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nubbins`: b.mine b.sell b.exch
nubbins`: b.realforonceinyourlife
nubbins`: so norway is doing well so far in sochi
nubbins`: 7 medals, 2 gold
KRS-One: Fkrs
KRS-One: authenitc mexican food is quite good
mod6: remember when the medals use to be actual gold, silver and copper? at the last olympics they were just 'coated'. this time I've seen gaping holes in the medals.
mircea_popescu: whoa what a scam.
nubbins`: was it last time that the medals looked like CD-Rs?
mod6: srsly mp
mircea_popescu: "everyone gets paper medals" wtf.
nubbins`: KRS-One, authentic * is generally pretty good
mircea_popescu: yet another reason for me not to compete in the olympics
mircea_popescu: other than being too old and too lazy
nubbins`: marginally too old
nubbins`: there was a 33yo woman today won a medal in snowboarding
mircea_popescu: what'd i do, olympic shooting ?
nubbins`: yeah!
mircea_popescu: i guess that.
nubbins`: just learn to ski and there's biathlon right there
mircea_popescu: i can sky sort-of but meh
ozbot: 403 Forbidden
mod6: wtf
nubbins`: cut your dick off and compete with the women
nubbins`: lel @ ozbot
mircea_popescu: why would i want to compete with women w/o my dick ? that's the only reason to even do it
nubbins`: well they do a pants-check
mircea_popescu: why do they keep bundling olymptics with the lame&tard mockfest
mircea_popescu: is the idea someone will somehow consider them the same thing somewhere sometime ?
nubbins`: i think it's more because everything is already set up
mod6: things that make you go "hmmm." The last Olympic games where medals were made entirely of gold was 1912.
nubbins`: why break down the tables after the boy scouts banquet if the girl guides banquet is tomorrow?
mircea_popescu: so basically, since i have a bed anyway, some guy unrelated might as well come take a nap.
nubbins`: sure, yeah, if you're in a hotel.
mircea_popescu: mod6 100% gold is a problem tho.
mod6: If the London 2012 Games medals were made from solid gold, they would cost £25 million to make.
mircea_popescu: it's practically chocolate
mod6: HAHAH
mircea_popescu: comes off on your fingers
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i wouldn't go to that hotel, cause im fucking cool, being the olympics.
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: i didn't think 100% gold was a thing, anyway.
mircea_popescu: and no you can't have my knife, this isn't a cafeteria, it's a restaurant
mircea_popescu: didn't he say completely ?
nubbins`: entirely, but yes
nubbins`: 1912, i'd say they were lucky to get three 9s of purity
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nubbins`: this is based on no research, but i stand by it
mircea_popescu: nah, you can get infinitely pure gold even on 1800s tech
mod6: Olympic Gold medals are required to be made from at least 92.5% silver, and must contain a minimum of 6 grams of gold.
ozbot: Gold medal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
nubbins`: infinitely? not likely
nubbins`: 99.999% is the best i've ever heard of
mircea_popescu: nubbins` only limited by your patience
nubbins`: and bankroll
mircea_popescu: well eyah
nubbins`: but still!
nubbins`: five 9s is, i think, the record
mircea_popescu: actually, you can prolly get three 9s at home in your kitchen
nubbins`: diminishing returns after that
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nubbins`: i think generally five 9s isn't done often because it's not worth the trouble
mircea_popescu: pretty much
nubbins`: altho once you're set up, no big deal
nubbins`: canada sells 99999 bullion at ~spot
nubbins`: untold $ to set up that sort of facility tho, no doubt
mircea_popescu: not really, man. just wash it in acid, piss in the thing
mircea_popescu: repeat until you're bored.
nubbins`: i think it would take me a while to get bored with pissing on gold
nubbins`: wow, they didn't even award gold medals until the 3rd modern olympics
nubbins`: was only silver/bronze for the first two
mircea_popescu: gold is valuable, yo.
mircea_popescu: almost like bitcoin
nubbins`: btc medal
mircea_popescu: (fun fact : even at the height at the gold standard, gold was RARELY seen in commerce if at all
mircea_popescu: most shopkeepers could live an entire shopkeeping life without ever seeing a gold coin)
nubbins`: but don't worry, stackers, you'll totally be able to use your krugerrands to buy groceries when SHTF
mircea_popescu: yeah, totally.
the20year: Ammo is much more useful
the20year: Just as good as a commodity as gold/silver, but can be used :)
punkman: cow might be better
mircea_popescu: i'd totally want to go hunting with a suppply of bullets that's spent the past three years being handled and knocked around in pockets by 5000 dorks.
the20year: Animals i'm sure could be used, but they're not easily transportable.
mircea_popescu: prolly shoot myself after the first two hours
the20year: Most of the guys that I know that stockpile ammo are keeping it in the factory sealed cans. In the US we get quite a bit of warsaw pac stuff that was designed to have 300+ year shelf lifes
mircea_popescu: yeah, but this is before shtf.
herbijudlestoids: john hussman is my fav fund manager...every monday he releases a weekly market comment, its a happy read for me http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc140210.htm
benkay: if you're really hedging against needing lots of bullets wouldn't it be better to throw down the cash for a milling machine and buy the individual chemical components?
nubbins`: i've got my doubts that any bullet would pass through more than a couple of hands after shtf
benkay: then mill the components into powder on demand?
nubbins`: benkay, what's a milling machine?
mircea_popescu: benkay down the same route : wouldn't the best investment be a large supply of keys to already installed cock cages ?
nubbins`: is that one of those weird things that doesn't work anymore since the shtf?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no because it's hand operated by cockcaged slave guys
the20year: Depends benkay, the components are stockpiled by plenty of people, but not everyone has the knowhow to reload, and most shooters dont' trust other people who reload the ammo
benkay: no, no. a hand-cranked mill that mills powders into well-mixed other powders.
the20year: Too easy to doublecharge something and blow someone up
nubbins`: the20year, that's actually perfect
benkay: cock cages?
nubbins`: "i'll trade you 1 bullet for that chicken"
the20year: The chemical components are extremely expensive for modern powders and highly controlled, or you could buy a 8lb, or 24lb jug of mixed powder
nubbins`: guy takes your bullet, blows his face off
nubbins`: then you get all his chickens.
the20year: The US did that in vietnam quite a bit, filled enemy bullets with high explosives and let them kill themselves
nubbins`: sneaky
mircea_popescu: and they totally won o nthat strategy
nubbins`: well they got all the chickens anyway
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` it was mostly desperation, by that point. wasn't that widely employed, but hey. anything to maybe get an edge
the20year: For what it was, it was pretty effective, granted the US military foray into vietnam in of itself was idocy
nubbins`: ever try fighting a man who just ate a full chicken?
nubbins`: he doesn't want to be at it
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids "are about double the level that would generate historically adequate long-term returns"
nubbins`: "fuck off dude, srsly"
the20year: It's slightly more diffcult than people who are nearly starving to death, ala stalingrad/leningrad
mircea_popescu: i'd say the man is well within range. that's about where i see it too.
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market btcc
gribble: BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 739.2467, Best ask: 739.248349, Bid-ask spread: 0.00165, Last trade: 739.2467, 24 hour volume: 5719.74300000, 24 hour low: 739.2467, 24 hour high: 742.401237, 24 hour vwap: None
the20year: I hope the end of CNY helps prices
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market btce
gribble: BTC-E BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 696.0, Best ask: 698.499, Bid-ask spread: 2.49900, Last trade: 695.599, 24 hour volume: 12327.09818, 24 hour low: 671.0, 24 hour high: 730.0, 24 hour vwap: 700.5
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: he is a genius
nubbins`: the end of cny?
the20year: ;;ticker -- market coinbase
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
nubbins`: i guess i could have just done --market all
the20year: chinese new years, from what i had been told it has a pretty dramatic on all economics involving china
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: called both the 2000 and 2007 top and both 2003 and 2009 bottom (altho he lost out on the 2009 bottom)
the20year: I know that in my brother's case he's been waiting on $20k+ of materials and the new years delayed it
mircea_popescu: publicly ?
nubbins`: the20year, not just china
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: publicly
mircea_popescu: pretty good.
the20year: Yeah, you're right, but china was just noted in this case becaus of BTCchina
the20year: ;;market all
gribble: Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "all" in it. Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.
the20year: ;;ticker market all
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
nubbins`: --market
the20year: ;;ticker --market all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 610 @ 0.00085181 = 0.5196 BTC [-]
nubbins`: heh you flooded gribs
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
nubbins`: OR MAYBE WE BOTH DID
the20year: I give up
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nubbins`: sorry you guise
the20year: Coinbase is $720, not too bad, that's typically who we use to get usd to fiat and what not
mircea_popescu: dudes srsly, you can just pm gribble
nubbins`: i said sorry D;
the20year: My brother actually pitched the idea of bitcoin to a higher level manager at DHL, and coinbase contacted him to pass some information to DHL, i guess coinbase has some pretty neat programs for large organiations
cazalla: yeah well my dad knows the CEO of DHL
the20year: They need to listen to whomever their top guy in Ohio is then :D
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: he had one issue in 2009 when he was insisting to stress test their method against depression era data, so he missed that bottom in trade but did call it
the20year: My brother sends enough DHL packages I guess that they want to start a hub or branch or whatever where he's located
the20year: herb, this is the fund manager you talked about earlier?
mircea_popescu: how old is the guy ?
cazalla: My brother sends twice as many DHL packages as your brother
nubbins`: YEAH WELL MY DAD IS A FUCKING COP
mircea_popescu: i bet nubbins dad could be sent to ohio by cazalla's dad
mircea_popescu: in a package
nubbins`: no doubt
nubbins`: anyway, just kidding, if my dad was a cop i'd kill myself
the20year: he'd enjoy our weather
mircea_popescu: then he could do a hood jump and arrest putin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00085067 = 13.1429 BTC [-] {2}
the20year: How is romania right now in terms of snowfall mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: the entire thing melted and it smells like spring
the20year: Nice
nubbins`: -17c overnight here
mircea_popescu: the rest of the country, well... some snow. nothing huge.
nubbins`: basically the same
the20year: I had to shovel a 2ft high ice wall last night
the20year: Car slid off road today into a guard rail. This is the worst winter I've ever had to drive in
herbijudlestoids: the20year: yeah
mircea_popescu: some people from somalia had to drive to kenya or something
cazalla: we've had heat wave after heat wave over the past few weeks in australia
mircea_popescu: to get out of the disaster area
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: um, i guess 40ish?
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids trying to discern if i should have his history dug up or not.
the20year: we're gonna hit -17c a few times next week
nubbins`: maybe all this weird weather is from not burning enough dinosaur mud
mircea_popescu: cazalla well now we finally know who's causing all the global warming. STOP IT
the20year: Our record low with windchill so far this year was -50
cazalla: a few weeks back we had 40c+ for 5 days straight
nubbins`: fun fact, we have a ton of offshore oil fields here, and they just burn off all the natural gas on site instead of doing something useful with it
the20year: Is that pretty untypical?
cazalla: i had to bring my meat rabbits inside
the20year: Nubbins, you in the US or somewhere else?
nubbins`: eastern canada
the20year: No mister for them caz?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.07080001 = 0.708 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00086515 = 0.173 BTC [+] {2}
the20year: They used to do that all the time locally, but anymore they bottle/compress it or something else
nubbins`: well that would be the sensible thing
the20year: The compression systems aren't cheap, but i did manage to find one a few years ago that ran off of natural gas
the20year: so your only imput was natural gas, output was compressed or liquified
cazalla: the20year: nope but i don't think that'd done much for them in 40+ heat for 5 days
cazalla: do*
nubbins`: i have a hard time believing that the compression systems are so uneconomical that the better solution is to just waste it all
the20year: We have 40c days here in Ohio and that's usually what they do
nubbins`: makes me wonder
the20year: I'm sure it all depends on how much gas
the20year: the one I looked at took 50% to 70% of the input to compress it
nubbins`: huh.
the20year: Specifically, i was looking at building a methane digester and compressing the gas
mircea_popescu: nubbins` maybe the hassle of getting permits is such that they're just making a point.
the20year: Compressing NG isn't cheap
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, there's no such thing as a hassle here
nubbins`: if you want to plunder resources
nubbins`: they'll name a building after ya
nubbins`: "we have height restrictions on all buildings in the downtown core"
nubbins`: "we are a large company that wishes to build a highrise"
nubbins`: "lel jk about that restriction thing"
the20year: nubbins, you in alberta?
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids http://www.hussmanfunds.com/theFunds.html << why the fuck is he -5% over 5 years
nubbins`: the20year, east coast
nubbins`: was married in alberta tho!
the20year: NB, quebec or some such?
nubbins`: easternmost province in canada
the20year: i didn't realize people lived there
ThickAsThieves: someone put altcoin in an exchange
nubbins`: consider yourself realized, i guess :D
nubbins`: a newfoundlander invented the gas mask!
the20year: cool
the20year: you were once a british colony
nubbins`: the first giant squid corpse ever found washed ashore here!
nubbins`: yes, until 1949
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: basically in 2009 he mandated that they stress test their method on pre WW2 depression era data to validate it, and consequently missed the bottom. by the time he was satisfied the market had returned to overbought/overvalued/overbullish/rising yields state
the20year: Payment for fighting ww2 :)
nubbins`: the20year, we didn't "fight" in ww2 :)
herbijudlestoids: so hes been essentially fully hedged since 2009 and paying for the puts
the20year: Canada was certainly involved
mircea_popescu: this is incredibly stupid ;/
nubbins`: yes, for sure
the20year: Granted, many times under control of idiotic english generals
nubbins`: most newfoundland men of age were slaughtered in ww1
mircea_popescu: so he's fighting the fed on his shoestring budget ? what is this, the internet ?
nubbins`: we didn't send any soldiers for ww2
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: it turns out in hindsight that their method would have worked perfectly but he wanted to be sure
the20year: Canada - The poland of the commonwealth
the20year: I meant canada in General
nubbins`: anyway, newfoundland was british for both world wars
nubbins`: mildly funny to see canadian flags flown on remembrance day here
the20year: they fly US flags in hawaii and Alaska during our veteran memorial days
the20year: I guess it's better than flying the UK flag
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: well he doesnt really view the "fighting the fed" angle as valid, he doesnt believe QE has any proven mechanism for higher prices and shows pretty convincing data on that front. his view is the rally since 2009 is entirely attributable to the FASB mark to unicorn rules
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, saved
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids a distinction ultimately without a difference
the20year: fasb?
herbijudlestoids: ;;google fasb
mircea_popescu: the us cook your books authority.
nubbins`: fasb, flambeeing and sauteeing books
herbijudlestoids: lots of new blocks churning on altcoin today
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids the argument isn't that in an actually functioning economy with actual accounting and reporting the virtual equivalent of the fed could prop up prices by printing paper.
the20year: NL did manage a artillery regiment in ww2
mircea_popescu: the argument is that in the actual dysfunctional economy as it is, without any accounting or reporting, the fed can SAY it did anything it pleases, and SAY it had whatever effect it choses
herbijudlestoids: so wut? does that have any proven link to higher stock prices? no
herbijudlestoids: the whole point of the hussman funds is to invest based on proven transmission mechanisms
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only way to profitably invest in equity in the soviet us is by being friendly with the us politburo.
herbijudlestoids: breadth, valuation, sentiment, rates, etc
the20year: So do you have seasons in NL
mircea_popescu: that'd be the only proven and conceptually sound transmission mechanism,
nubbins`: the20year: ah, ya learn something new every day
mircea_popescu: and i wonder why's he not lobbying then.
the20year: I'm big on ww2 history, it was pretty easy to find out whether they sent infantry, i was pretty sure they sent something
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: there were entire communities here essentially wiped out by ww1
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: you might like this article http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc100823.htm
the20year: Yeah , that was pretty common with commonwealth troops during WW1. All the colonies got screwed by England when they started having manpower shortgages
the20year: Australia had sometimes similarissues, but more canadians were involved in events like passendale and the somme that obliterated large division sized units
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: yo you around?
the20year: And they kind of had the similar opinion/use of commonwealth troops during ww2, just look at dieppe
nubbins`: yeah, there's some connection between newfoundland and passchendaele
nubbins`: the details escape me
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids his model is fundamentally broken. the relative prices of currencies are to a large degree fixed politically.
the20year: 67k deaths, 150k wounded just abotu for canada and australia each
the20year: 4.5m total aussies at that time, 7.5m canadians at that time
nubbins`: war: not so much of a lel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20185 @ 0.00085153 = 17.1881 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1510 @ 0.00019 = 0.2869 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: <herbijudlestoids> ThickAsThieves: yo you around? --- for a few minutes or so
herbijudlestoids: damnit, i forgot what i was going to ask you lol
herbijudlestoids: oh right, is there a blockchain explorer up for altcoin?
mircea_popescu: atc.blockr.io
ThickAsThieves: i'm rolling the dice and sending some btc to this exchange
ThickAsThieves: the guy seems to have a history of outing scammers
ThickAsThieves: maybe he's okay
Duffer1: to r3wt?
mircea_popescu: what's the exchange ?
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust r3wt
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=r3wt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=r3wt | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so tell him to get in the wot first
mircea_popescu: if he does your chances just improved 10x
BingoBoingo: r3wt doesn't exactly have a history himself of being reliable...
Duffer1: he scammed some guys he devd a coin for by premining the shit out of it
Duffer1: but manned up and apologized on the forums, hasn't changed his ID
mircea_popescu: he's like 19 n'est pas ?
nubbins`: that's essentially an adult
herbijudlestoids: herbi haz found 0 blox :(
mircea_popescu: nubbins` only for fucking.
ThickAsThieves: okay i asked him to join
ThickAsThieves: we shall see
ThickAsThieves: <Duffer1> he scammed some guys he devd a coin for by premining the shit out of it --- isnt this like impossible to get away with?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19215 @ 0.00085181 = 16.3675 BTC [+]
Duffer1: he claimed some technicality in their agreement or some such nonsense
mircea_popescu: he basically figured the op is retarded
ThickAsThieves: well get them all in wot and we'll see who weighs what
Duffer1: this was a few month ago at least
ThickAsThieves: which reminds me
ThickAsThieves: shameless request that anyone who hasnt rated me and has good reason to, please do
mircea_popescu: which wasn't that far off, the op went into a hysteria of nutty posting
ThickAsThieves: ;;gettrust thickasthieves
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user thickasthieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=thickasthieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=thickasthieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013
nubbins`: nice graph
benkay: babeface walked into a sharp thing on my mother's pilates reformer last night, and then went running/sledding drunk and naked in the snow afterwards. now she's dancing around the apartment wincing and cursing whenever she lands on the bum leg.
benkay: it's lolarious.
moiety: ThickAsThieves: don't
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Only in Canada where your Mayors endorse them
nubbins`: just one mayor
nubbins`: anyway, 25 cents for a crack pipe
nubbins`: not a bad deal
mircea_popescu: benkay you know you'll eventually have to put up a feed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.000475 = 0.475 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: people piss and moan about "oh this just enables/encourages etc"
nubbins`: bullshit
nubbins`: "pipes are a quarter? maybe i'll try smoking rocks"
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Just one Mayor that has been Caught. Eventually your Marion Berry will find their Kwame Killpatrick
nubbins`: my who and their who?
benkay: nubbins`: how can you be cool with crack pipes and not pmbs?
nubbins`: benkay, i'll leave that as an exercise to the reader
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: DC Mayor and Detroit Mayor, both liked crack
nubbins`: you seem smart, you should be able to figure it out :D
nubbins`: BingoBoingo, ah :D
benkay: nubbins`: what, crack addicts are addicted already?
ThickAsThieves: <moiety> ThickAsThieves: don't what?
benkay: i seriously do not get it. consider it a flaw of youth, and this your opportunity to larn me a thing.
nubbins`: you just posed a tautology as a question
nubbins`: benkay: we have free universal healthcare here in canada.
nubbins`: know what's cheaper than AIDS treatment?
nubbins`: a 25 cent crack pipe.
benkay: doesn't really address the heroin side of things, though.
nubbins`: sure
moiety: ThickAsThieves: i mean r3wt. just don't.
benkay: but mitigates i guess?
nubbins`: there's a supervised injection site in downtown vancouver
nubbins`: same thing.
nubbins`: junkies using dirty needles = healthcare burden
nubbins`: plus, outreach
benkay: no to be flip but idiots with btc = scam burden
moiety: junkies. = healthcare burden
nubbins`: some junkie goes to Insite to shoot up, not only does he not give himself hep/aids, but he's now in a room with people who can encourage him to seek treatment
nubbins`: moiety: not necessarily
nubbins`: and even then, there are degrees
moiety: how? they are using healthcare, if not for their habit, for the issues it brings them later down the line
nubbins`: okay, but everyone is using healthcare
moiety: yep
moiety: some more than others
nubbins`: the guy with hep c, for example, vs the guy without
nubbins`: or, put another way, the guy who shared a needle vs the guy who got a clean one
nubbins`: junkies are going to shoot up whether they have clean digs or not
moiety: or any guy using a needle clean or dirty vs a guy who doesn't
moiety: which is a burden
benkay: everyone's a burden on healthcare, moiety. idiots who eat too many carbs and develop diabetes are vastly more expensive than junkies.
nubbins`: the purpose of safe injection sites is to prevent junkies from getting hep c and try to get them to clean up
moiety: totally agree with you there benkay
nubbins`: anyway, the big mistake people make is thinking that safe injection sites, free crack pipes etc "enable" drug users
nubbins`: which is laughable
moiety: it is, if they want it they will get it
nubbins`: exactly.
nubbins`: social conservatives struggle with this concept
moiety: cleaner practice is always the ideal
nubbins`: 76% of vancouver residents support the existence of Insite
nubbins`: think about that: THREE QUARTERS of a major metropolitan city would rather the junkies have a safe, clean place to shoot up
moiety: i think 100% would rather not see them staggering/laying around places either
nubbins`: oh, sure
moiety: this way, they are contained too
nubbins`: the other side is dirty needles
nubbins`: you want 'em in the streets or in a sharps container?
moiety: you get a lot here
benkay: just a short slide from locking all of the undesireables up in crappy hi-rises. i endorse.
benkay: "have some tv, water, food-paste, sharps, internet. go to town, kids! just don't leave the tower."
nubbins`: they busted a house across the street from a dive bar i frequent some months ago
nubbins`: found a GOLF BAG full of dirty needles
nubbins`: FULL.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> junkies are going to shoot up whether they have clean digs or not << the solution isn't to let them do w/e they want cause otherwise they hold their breath
mircea_popescu: the solution is to not provide any healthcare out of public funds for any drug user.
mircea_popescu: you ever used drugs in your life ? tough. gotta pay now.
dub: thats more expensive
nubbins`: that's only a solution in la-la land
mircea_popescu: no, it's a solution in reality. the lala land is the presumption that anyone is worth something.
dub: dead body in the gutter causes more problems
dub: costs more than healthcare etc
mircea_popescu: while recent tech boom allowed such nonsense be financed by squandering resources that'd have been better used elsewhere,
mircea_popescu: overall the gravy train is going away
nubbins`: so how do you determine if someone has "ever" used drugs
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you test em
dub: its kinda like the argument for not fucing up the environment then dealing with it later
nubbins`: test them for what?
dub: oh wait
mircea_popescu: for your definiton of drugs
nubbins`: know what's cheaper than a drug test?
nubbins`: a 25 cent crack pipe.
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit really.
dub: know whats mostly untestable
nubbins`: lsd?
mircea_popescu: dub no it's not. you telling me a heroin addict is untestable for junk ?
dub: after a matter of days, yes
mircea_popescu: IF he waits a few days
mircea_popescu: then no prejudice.
dub: stupid argument anyway
mircea_popescu: hah. stop sidestepping.
dub: its like arguing that prostitution be illegal
mircea_popescu: no, it's not at all like that.
dub: people are going to do it, there is an efficient way to deal and its not filling up jails
mircea_popescu: you can afford drugs, you can afford to pay the hospital bill.
mircea_popescu: do your math and make up your choices.
nubbins`: well that's the thing
dub: or exterminating people or whatever your solution is
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nubbins`: there isn't an "Afford drugs"
mircea_popescu: dub there's no "dealing". its not your motherfucking job to solve idiots problems
mircea_popescu: let them rot.
nubbins`: you're gonna steal flatscreen TVs to pay for a hospital stay?
dub: if you want an efficient society it is
mircea_popescu: nubbins` shot on the spot.
mircea_popescu: you stole a tv ? bang.
nubbins`: what's the cutoff
nubbins`: suppose you steal a loaf of bread
nubbins`: shot?
nubbins`: or just lose a hand
dub: steal a look at random chicks tits?
mircea_popescu: there's no cutoff. you're caught stealing that's it for you.
dub: some would say bang
mircea_popescu: dub nah, all that bs copyright shit is going away.
nubbins`: well
nubbins`: i can't see any flaws in this line of thinking
nubbins`: you just solved crime and drug addiction
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mircea_popescu: you're not "dealing" with people./
mircea_popescu: you make simple rules and enforce them drastically.
mircea_popescu: that's it.
dub: do the maths
nubbins`: not really okay
nubbins`: maybe for romania, no idea what things are like there
mircea_popescu: it's actually okay whether you like it or not. a la bitcoin.
nubbins`: in canada, it's generally accepted that people don't want things the way you describe
mircea_popescu: nobody cares what people want
mircea_popescu: first on the list, the people themselves.
nubbins`: you're a character
mircea_popescu: people can want in one hand and piss in the other, see which fills first.
nubbins`: the want hand fills first here
mircea_popescu: da fuck did "want" become a legitimate argument anyway
benkay: well you're filthy communists.
nubbins`: liberal utopia
nubbins`: i can get my doctor to prescribe me weed
nubbins`: and the government will sell it to me
dub: you have to pay?
nubbins`: $5/gram
dub: thats a bit harsh
mircea_popescu: anyway, fwiw, in my experience works splendidly. whether you're working to destupidify women, or to build an exchange, or anything else.
nubbins`: yeah i know dude
mircea_popescu: simple rules, draconic enforcement, sayonara.
dub: except its never worked before
dub: and probably never will
mircea_popescu: dub far as i've seen it;s the only thing it ever worked.
mircea_popescu: course people who dislike shit working tend to scream it doesn't work, but hey.
mircea_popescu: do the gedankenexperiment, as asciilifeform calls them :
mircea_popescu: you go to class of schoolkids, lay down the rules for what they have to do till next class. whoever didn't do it is beaten till they pass out.
mircea_popescu: kids will scream as to how "this doesn;'tg work"
mircea_popescu: six months later ALL the kids in that class do ALL the homework ALL of the time flawlessly.
nubbins`: and ALL grow up to be normal adults and not psychopaths
mircea_popescu: and suddenly lolcatting isn't quite as appealing either,
dub: maybe at the cost of most of thier utility
nubbins`: here's another gedanken
mircea_popescu: nubbins` definitely more normal than the current crop.
mircea_popescu: dub kids have 0 utility as it is now you kidding me ?
nubbins`: alice takes oxycodone after her back surgery, bob takes oxycodone for the lels. alice and bob go to the hospital complaining of a bum knee.
nubbins`: which one gets healthcare and which one gets turned away / shot?
dub: as should be obvious, the better way to acheive your subservience is to addict you to drugs and tv
mircea_popescu: alice wants oxycodone for her surgery she stays in the hospital.
mircea_popescu: problem solved. next ?
nubbins`: hospital stays are a burden on the taxpayer, problem unsolved
mircea_popescu: dub my point being that you don't want subservience, you want competence.
dub: yeah wtf
dub: a bed for everyone that needs pain relief?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not quite.
mircea_popescu: dub who needs "pain relief" when they're stuck in hospital ?
nubbins`: ^ humans?
mircea_popescu: people need pain relief if you let them outside.
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised.
nubbins`: yeah dude, shit doesn't hurt in the hospital
dub: havent you seen the matrix?
mircea_popescu: suddenly it's a well this oxycodone is kinda cool, but im stuck here for a day cause of it.
mircea_popescu: i guess i maybe don't really need it anymore.
nubbins`: okay, so you have a herniated disc
mircea_popescu: so you do.
nubbins`: your choices are stay in the hospital for 6 months or deal with unbearable chronic pain for 6 months
nubbins`: sounds like it'd work in practice
mircea_popescu: what, you think herniated disks were invented AFTER oxycodone ?
nubbins`: wait, no it doesn't
mircea_popescu: tell you what, it's only unbearable cause you're used to being a sissy
mircea_popescu: pain is eminently bearable.
nubbins`: well if we're being obstinate, suppose alice has a job that she can't perform when experiencing high levels of pain
mircea_popescu: of all things it's actually the most bearable. as people die of thirst in a coupla days and of hunger in a coupla months
nubbins`: or do we just shoot everyone who hurts their back?
mircea_popescu: but you can be in pain indefinitely and it won't kill you.
dub: spoken like someone that doesnt know pain
mircea_popescu: nubbins` tough for her, she no longer has that job.
mircea_popescu: dub of everyone here i'm the only guy that gets his teeth fixed w/o anesthesia i'd wager.
nubbins`: okay, so what does she do now?
mircea_popescu: also probably the only guy to have ever been shot etc.
nubbins`: jobless and in pain
mircea_popescu: nubbins` tough for her.
mircea_popescu: next time she'll be more careful.
nubbins`: no, tough for the hospital staff she shoots
mircea_popescu: she shoots my ass.
dub: pff minor league
nubbins`: if your ass is in the door, yes
mircea_popescu: you give alice way too much credit while simultaneously giving her way too little credit.
mircea_popescu: if she's cool enough to start shooting she's cool enough to take it on the chin and move on.
nubbins`: you use "tough" like it's an explanation more often than an intelligent person should
mircea_popescu: because im confronted with "but mommy i don't like X" way more often than any sane person should.
punkman: mircea_popescu: I skip the anesthesia at the dentist, hate having a numb face for 4 hours after
mircea_popescu: so good for you.
mircea_popescu: how unbearable is it ?
punkman: but it's hard to stay still for the bigger fillings and shit
nubbins`: anyway, as lovely as this little "kill everyone" scheme sounds
mircea_popescu: supposedly tooth pain is way up there on the scale.
mod6: i went without the stuff until i had 4 teeth drilled without it. that sucked.
nubbins`: tooth pain is a bad one
punkman: I definitely sweat a bit, not that unbearable
nubbins`: inner ear pain is tough as well
mod6: i must be getting soft
mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm not proposing some never anesthesia bs incidentally.
mircea_popescu: just illustrating the point that there's nothing unbearable about pain.
mircea_popescu: it may not be what you want to be doing, sure,
KRS-One: wut
nubbins`: so replace "unbearable" with "excruciating" or w/e
mircea_popescu: but then again that's not the criteria now is it.
nubbins`: you're getting caught up in semantics
KRS-One: pain sucks and i wont bare it
dub: replace unbearable with 'prevents you from being fully utilised'
nubbins`: so alice can't get pain meds without a costly hospital stay
punkman: chronic pain is different, it can really wear you down
dub: enough to blow your retarded argument away
mircea_popescu: this utilitartian angle is not going anywhere dub
nubbins`: alice decides to self-medicate with booze
nubbins`: PROBLEM SOLVED
benkay: no nubbins` this 'kill everyone' is the actual plan. all of the above are just implementation details.
nubbins`: wait, shit, now we've got drunkards everywhere driving cars and beating their kids
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if that;s what she does good for her.
KRS-One: nubbins` I think pot is the best pain killer that isnt made in a lab
nubbins`: KRS-One, but drugs tough etc
mircea_popescu: nobody said she can drive a car drunk any more than she can have oxycodone outpatient style.
nubbins`: you should not be allowed to smoke pot unless you are in a hospital
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: who's to stop her?
mircea_popescu: you can smoke pot whenever you want, who cares.
KRS-One: nubbins` alcohol is way worse than pot..you can't overdose on da ganja either
nubbins`: so pot is fine but oxycodone isn't?
KRS-One: oxycodone is great anytime of the day or week.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` pretty much heroin is the only entry on my list of "drugs"
nubbins`: innnnteresting
mircea_popescu: your list may vary at your leisure, the argument is list independent
nubbins`: sounds like there's not much drug use in your town
mircea_popescu: kids and their pills mostly.
dub: no, they kill and eat drug users
mircea_popescu: dub no, they just don't have this "omg what do you want" culture yet
dub: clearly a winning strategy
mircea_popescu: so the society is reasonably functional still.
mircea_popescu: yeah, actually it is, dubsy.
nubbins`: heroin isn't even really a thing here
nubbins`: cocaine and pills
nubbins`: mostly
mircea_popescu: think of utility in the following terms : people making on average 300 bucks here when rents are on average 350 bucks
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dub: it probably is a thing there
mircea_popescu: go outside the little park in their projects to FIX THE BENCHES
mircea_popescu: with their own tools.
nubbins`: i do have to lel when i see people jam most of an 8ball up their nose at the bar and then ask if the coffee is "fair trade" at the shop the next day
nubbins`: was that fair trade coke you jammed up your face?
mircea_popescu: people making 900 a month in food stamps and free housing over there hang around the cortners glaring at passer bys
mircea_popescu: so no, don't be telling me about how shit functions and doesn't.
dub: heroin is very clique'y
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nubbins`: sure, but you take away that 900 and food stamps and housing tomorrow and the city would burn to the ground in a week
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the list : to be an addictive substance something needs to actually give addiction
nubbins`: much harder to take away once given
mircea_popescu: the definition of which is "sudden discontinuation = death"
nubbins`: so, booze fits the definition
mircea_popescu: not that many substances presented as addictive actually are in any sense.
nubbins`: are you new? alcohol withdrawal kills
dub: can you name one?
mircea_popescu: in lalaland.
mircea_popescu: dub heroin. some synthetics.
dub: um
nubbins`: in realworld land too
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know = does not mean "in one stray case out of 5498740958609"
mircea_popescu: = means =
nubbins`: ah, so kills 100% of time, ok
nubbins`: i don't think heroin fits that either
nubbins`: we're back to square one
mircea_popescu: try it sometime.
nubbins`: heroin? nah
nubbins`: i don't like needles
mircea_popescu: so then wtf basis do you "Think" on
nubbins`: try asking that a different way
dub: heroin is not instaaddict stuff
mircea_popescu: nobody said insta at any point.
dub: nor do you die when you kick
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mircea_popescu: cold turkey ? yeah, you die.
nubbins`: 100% of the time
nubbins`: because =
herbijudlestoids: jebus fuck arguing over technicalities.
herbijudlestoids: heroin withdrawal kills you
nubbins`: herb, it's what we do
herbijudlestoids: clonazepam withdrawal kills you
mircea_popescu: nubbins` in the sense we rounded 1 out of 5498740958609 to 0 we'll round out of 5498740958608 out of out of 5498740958609 to 1.0
benkay: welcome to assets, herbijudlestoids
herbijudlestoids: alcohol withdrawal does not kill you
moiety: sorry delayed response but what do you think about daily/weekly dispensing then nubbins`?
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids no no we must have fucktarded 5yo arguments about how the peas aren't really peas
nubbins`: dispensing drugs or works?
mircea_popescu: and wantboy shouldn't have to eat the peas
moiety: drugs sorry
nubbins`: moiety: beats me, does it work in practice?
moiety: depends on the aim. we used it to stop people overdosing
nubbins`: herbijudlestoids: and everyone should eat peas or they're stupid
herbijudlestoids: yall stupid.
mircea_popescu: no. everyone should eat peas or they're beaten.
dub: in theory the programs are to ween you off, not maintain
nubbins`: you kid, but that's your answer to most problems
nubbins`: whether the shoe fits or not
mircea_popescu: it is, yes.
herbijudlestoids: dub, nubbins` yall junkies? know junkies? watched your mates die?
mircea_popescu: violence is way underrated as a personal development tool.
nubbins`: after all, if the shoe doesn't fit, it's because of libtards encouraging kids to grow their feet
mircea_popescu: nubbins` except the shoe fits fine and the princess is having a hysteria session
mircea_popescu: cause she's gots to be speshul and couldn't possibly be ever fit by a shoe
nubbins`: except abstract analogies that don't make sense
mircea_popescu: god forbid.
nubbins`: cause no argument
mircea_popescu: no shoe understands her dragon feet.
nubbins`: satan allow
mircea_popescu: this has been one of the best arguments with no actual common ground in which people talking about entirely different things that so far ever happened on assets
bones6: Autism only arrived after we stopped beating our children. QED
nubbins`: no kidding, everybody's blood is running hot now
nubbins`: herb even told us to shut the fuck up because he's been there man and we haven't
mircea_popescu: you know what autism figures were in romania at the time the aids figures were 0.0x%
nubbins`: 100%?
mircea_popescu: on the grounds of all the aids kids being starved to death in specialised institutions ?
mircea_popescu: about 0.0% cause everyone was affraid of reporting it.
nubbins`: ah, cool. how did that work out for romania?
mircea_popescu: also at the time romania ruled the gymnastics at the olympics
mircea_popescu: because 15 yo girls and beating.
nubbins`: oh. so pretty well, then
mircea_popescu: i can't complain :)
nubbins`: so this heavy-handed beating-or-else thing really worked out for you guys
nubbins`: there wasn't any social upheaval or anything in the meantime?
nubbins`: OH WAIT
mircea_popescu: wait, you're going to tell me that the romanian revolution was over free access to drugs ?
mircea_popescu: here's a fun little tidbit : in 1991 they had no cop on the force that knew what pot smells like.
nubbins`: no, i'm going to tell you it was over I HAVE THE ANSWERS STFU OR BANG
mircea_popescu: think about that for a moment.
dub: herbijudlestoids: have been, indeed, no.
mircea_popescu: dub what'd you junkie on ?
dub: meth
mircea_popescu: what srsly ?!
nubbins`: yucky
nubbins`: because people do things
mircea_popescu: "well one day i noticed my house was kinda dirty..."
mircea_popescu: nubbins` let me guess, they experiment right ?
nubbins`: sure, yeah. sometimes with drugs, sometimes with things that end up being bitcoin
nubbins`: experimenting is what people do
nubbins`: like your friend who milked a squirrel
gribble: Error: "bang" is not a valid command.
benkay: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
nubbins`: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
moiety: lolol
KRS-One: freakin lasers, maaan
mircea_popescu: ;;roulette
gribble: *click*
nubbins`: ;;sharks
gribble: Error: "sharks" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: ;;roulette
gribble: *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
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mircea_popescu: there we go.
nubbins`: gribs got real
moiety: lol i like gribble
KRS-One: ozbot is better
KRS-One: .bait
benkay: ;;gettrust moiety
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mircea_popescu: ;;echo and gribble likes you
gribble: and gribble likes you
KRS-One: Ozbot?
mircea_popescu: moiety bitch, get in the wot.
nubbins`: so i'm thinking about the fact that the cops didn't know what pot smelled like
moiety: i dont ever plan on trading or anthing though
nubbins`: and the conclusion i've reached is that everybody must have been pretty fucking uptight
KRS-One: ;;seen ozbot
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KRS-One: fap fap fap
jurov: ;;slap KRS-One
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: not bad
mircea_popescu: moiety best be prepared.
benkay: ah hey i caught my first negrating, y'all
mircea_popescu: nubbins` everyone still is pretty uptight.
benkay: guess i'm a big boy now
nubbins`: ;;ratingsystem getrating benkay
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herbijudlestoids: so when i left the house yesterday afternoon, the GH on coinminer.net pool for ATC was ~40. when i got home, ~100. today, ~200
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, maybe they should have a safe pot smoking site
mircea_popescu: but to not let the revolution issue hanging : there were arguably a few explanatory reasons
nubbins`: Insmoke or something
moiety: mircea_popescu: was just reading up, i'm all for anything to do with gpg
mircea_popescu: in the 70s they made contraception illegal. the births jumped then over a decade levelled off to the original values. the life of women turned into a nightmare tho. those kids... they pretty much WERE the revolution.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: oh sure, i just figured since we were handwaving away complex issues with flippant, facile replies...
diametric: asciilifeform: i convinced johnny russell to accept bitcoin on ultimachine.com.
dub: was gonna mine some ATC but my asic blowed up
mircea_popescu: in the 80s ceausescu got pissed off at the us bankers, paid off all romania's debt. this resulted in horrible restraints on consume market.
dub: someone musta went bang on it
the20year: in romania?
mircea_popescu: people put up with it till the debt was paid, in 88. at that point no relaxation showed up and peeps were enraged
nubbins`: no doubt
mircea_popescu: finally, the language was deteriorating under the pressure of bureaucratic formalism.
mircea_popescu: this may be a cultural explanation.
mircea_popescu: that's about the set, really.
nubbins`: like we said, it's harder to change gears once you get going
nubbins`: be it dropping social welfare or easing restraints on the consumer market
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
nubbins`: hey, you saw it happen
nubbins`: now consider what would happen in canada if tomorrow welfare was 100% abolished
mircea_popescu: but you can't in any shape or form successfully argue that the current english cultural space anti-intellectualism, anti-voluntarism and deliberate depersonalisation has any sort of future.
nubbins`: the average canadian doesn't want a revolution
dub: its ok, romainia has heavy duty 6 puck soviet era ventilated clutch
nubbins`: no, i can't argle that
nubbins`: argue, either!
mircea_popescu: well that's where we'll have to settle.
mircea_popescu: i'll concede going around beating people isn't a winning strategy
nubbins`: i'll concede that i'd just as soon kill the pillheads in my neighbourhood
mircea_popescu: nor something that could ever be done. you couldn't pay me to do it.
mircea_popescu: you can't even fucking troll this dumbass chan ffs. half hour later people start hugging and conceding things
mircea_popescu: s like a fucking utopian society.
nubbins`: you were a few facile statements away from me asking if you were on the spectrum ;p
mircea_popescu: what spectrum ?
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nubbins`: ;;ud on the spectrum
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nubbins`: it's a phrase here :D
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i guess i gotta be on the spectrum
mircea_popescu: it is, after all, a spectrum.
nubbins`: we all are, i'm sure
mircea_popescu: i'm the black or w/e
dub: you the whitest nigger I ever dun see
mircea_popescu: i'm not white
mircea_popescu: i'm just priviledged.
nubbins`: anyway, full circle, synesthesia has been reported in both lsd users and autistics
mircea_popescu: nubbins` and artists.
nubbins`: most of the artists fall into one camp or the other
dub: is that the audio hallucanatoin jonx?
mircea_popescu: no they don't stop pushing your druggie agenda.
nubbins`: JOIN US
mircea_popescu: dub it's when a chick thinks she can smell your cock because it tastes so good.
nubbins`: MUSIC SOUNDS BETTER
mircea_popescu: or no wait.
nubbins`: dub, shit like tasting colors or hearing smells
mircea_popescu: it's when a chick thinks she can smell your cock because it hits her in the back of the throat so nice
nubbins`: if chicks can smell your cock you've got a problem
dub: I read about a deaf woman who released an album of her audible hallucinations oslt
mircea_popescu: nubbins` "thinks"
nubbins`: aha!
nubbins`: subtle
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dub: ^related
duduqa: hi there
nubbins`: dub, auditory hallucinations are strange things indeed
mircea_popescu: besides, cocks actually do smell i'm told.
mircea_popescu: duduqa ello
nubbins`: i once smashed a radio that wasn't turned on
nubbins`: "...oh"
duduqa: mircea_popescu: hello!
mircea_popescu: clearly reefer has no ill effects
benkay: i once worked for a gentleman who when voices were raised above a certain threshold in meetings would visibly lose his ability to read his monitor
nubbins`: if reefer caused hallucinations i'd smoke it more often
mircea_popescu: benkay so like a dog ? other dogs barking, can't focus nomoar.
moiety: auditory hallucinations are much more common than visual hallucinations. more uncommon than both, are tactile ones
mircea_popescu: dub not bad actually. who's the chick ?
nubbins`: moiety: lies, i mistakenly think i've pissed myself maybe once every two weeks on average
benkay: he claimed a degree of constant synasthesia. was also pretty thoroughly autistic. the story was that he couldn't see his screen when voices got loud.
mircea_popescu: that's just bad childhood memories nubbins`
benkay: so yes, distracted.
dub: the deaf one or the smell yo dick one? (i have nfi eather way)
mircea_popescu: the latter.
moiety: is this after a massive amount of alcohol nubbins`?
nubbins`: usually if i've smoked a lot of pot, not always
nubbins`: i don't drink much
moiety: thats not halluincatory in a true sense though
nubbins`: fun story, before the early 2000s there was no recreational drug that was active at the same dosage range as lsd. you bought some paper, it was the real thing or nothing at all
moiety: its more a perception thing
nubbins`: moiety, nod
nubbins`: then this class of drugs called NBOMe was discovered
nubbins`: which were active at very small doses, enough to fit on a blotter
mircea_popescu: aka "National Board of Osteopathic Medical Examiners"
nubbins`: all of a sudden lsd started tasting oddly bitter
nubbins`: and the trips were strange
moiety: what exactly are microdots then?
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nubbins`: teeny tiny caplets, i think
nubbins`: still lsd, just in a different vessel
KRS-One: someone told me he microdosed LSD for a while and wound up speaking perfect german almost as if you can learn great things by separation
moiety: like super string lsd i was under the impression?
moiety: strong*
moiety: kk
nubbins`: KRS-One, i've had legitimate epiphanies on lsd
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nubbins`: ANYWAY
nubbins`: this bitter not-acid was the only thing you could buy for a long time
moiety: KRS-One: there's a guy in hospital here on a permanent trip, since he was 21 or so... a bad trip. poor guy is tortured and has no insight at all
nubbins`: it was only when the derpy pirate roberts opened his Ye Old Shoppe that the real deal once again became available
moiety: people have woken from comas speaking different languages
duduqa: moiety: wat?
moiety: people have been known to wake from coma being able to speak languages they weren;t able to before.
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: you have a very weird perception of the drug market
moiety: i'd assume these were people in coma in countries other than their native language
herbijudlestoids: 5-MeO-AMT was common on blotter before the discovery of 25i-NBOMe
nubbins`: herbijudlestoids: i live on an island, what do you expect?
herbijudlestoids: and the resurgence in LSD has *nothing* to do with the silk road.
herbijudlestoids: any relationship you noticed is coincidental
nubbins`: hm, i didn't realize AMT was orally active. has admittedly been a while
benkay: there's real lsd going around again?
benkay: i gave up on finding any.
benkay: i actually gave up on ever trying real lsd.
nubbins`: benkay: there always was, just didn't make it quite as far around
nubbins`: after those two guys in the missile silo got busted, i thought i'd never see it again
benkay: i suppose i coulda found some at burning man but its kinda impolite to walk up to strangers saying "hi i've never actually found real acid and i'm hoping to find some this week can you introduce me to someone?"
mircea_popescu: "25I-NBOMe has been implicated in multiple deaths in Australia. In March 2012, a man in Australia died from injuries sustained by running into trees and power poles while intoxicated by 25I-NBOMe."
mircea_popescu: derp. anyone got the vid ?
nubbins`: NBOMe is no fun
mircea_popescu: A Sydney teenager jumped to his death on June 5, 2013. He reportedly jumped off a balcony thinking he could fly.
mircea_popescu: well.... you can do anything.
nubbins`: i dunno about this whole "thinking he could fly" shit
benkay: friends tossed him over. told a story.
nubbins`: i've been pretty fucking high in my time, never thought i could fly
nubbins`: that's not even sensible
mircea_popescu: i think i can fly with regularity
mircea_popescu: usually happens right after boarding.
nubbins`: and eating lots of bran
nubbins`: anyone? no?
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: i realistically doubt you could objectively identify a single dose of 25I-NBOMe from LSD
herbijudlestoids: its only at 2 dose or above you can start to notice the difference
dub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura is fairly famous trip for mkaing peopel think they can fly
ozbot: Datura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
nubbins`: herbijudlestoids: you can tell by the taste. NBOMe is intensely bitter.
nubbins`: you can tell from a half-hit
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: whats that got to do with "fun"
nubbins`: oh, we're talking experience?
herbijudlestoids: dub: datura is a plant. are you referring to the tropane alkaloids contained within?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know not all peope can taste all bitters
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: you said its not fun. i said you wouldnt know if i fed it to you
mircea_popescu: of which there are at least a few hundred
nubbins`: NBOME is much less visual, and is punctuated by these sporadic moments of clarity
nubbins`: like you're at the bar having a good time
herbijudlestoids: no offense nubbins` but your subjective analysis of what NBOMe "is", doesnt count for anything
nubbins`: all of a sudden "why the fuck do i feel so sketchy? why are we all moving our bodies like this?"
nubbins`: no offense yourself, but just because you can't tell two completely different drugs apart doesn't mean i can't
dub: herbijudlestoids: I suppose your anaylsis of a what a 'dose' is is sound though
herbijudlestoids: dub: i work it out on approximate basis from drug seizures, so yea
herbijudlestoids: used to be easier when the DEA had their microgram report
mircea_popescu: he;s got a numeric method :D
nubbins`: HEH.
nubbins`: the other point about silk road is that there were this group of guys called "the avengers" who would buy LSD from new vendors and get it tested in a lab for strength
nubbins`: and publish the results
mircea_popescu: so how many sample results did they ever publish ?
nubbins`: dozens
mircea_popescu: over a few years ?
mircea_popescu: dude that place sucked srsly.
nubbins`: there weren't that many different lsd vendors
ozbot: DEA / Micrograms
mircea_popescu: but anyway, props to them, nice going.
herbijudlestoids: go here for real data
mircea_popescu: where'd they measure it ?
dub: lol
nubbins`: maybe four or five
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, that's what i always wondered
dub: internet experts
mircea_popescu: they never said ?!
nubbins`: not the sort of thing you can just bring somewhere
mircea_popescu: yes, it is.
nubbins`: they had access to some sort of lab
nubbins`: heh.
mircea_popescu: wtf, they never said where they measure and you trusted the results /?!
nubbins`: i bring LSD to the uni, i'll expect a knock on my door
mircea_popescu: how do you know it wasn't just sr sponsored bs ?
herbijudlestoids: errr nubbins` yes it is
benkay: oh man i used to read microgram bulletin religiously
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: errr no...
nubbins`: dude i don't fucking know, find the thread yourself! it's all there on the forums
mircea_popescu: im too lazy
herbijudlestoids: its like $80 to get any sample tested by HPLC
nubbins`: me too
herbijudlestoids: guess what, until its been HPLCd, you can claim ignorance as to the substance
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids would you trust the reported results of anon third parties that won't share where they measure ?
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: no.
nubbins`: and they'll tell you how many micrograms of lsd are in your tab?
mircea_popescu: makes 2.
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: its an approximation, but yes.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` most labs in the civilised world will test a sample.
nubbins`: well i guess that's how the avengers did it then, isn't it?
nubbins`: everything is a fight!
mircea_popescu: if they actually did anything.
herbijudlestoids: you can just say youre a concerned mother who found something in their childs schoolbag and want to test it
dub: nubbins`: no o it isnt, fuck you
herbijudlestoids: i know, because i have
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids you claimed to be a woman ?
mircea_popescu: with whig or sans whig ?
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: its not a fight until you claim something that is obviously not a fact (for people who know) as a fact
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: sans wig, over mail :)
dub: stand back guys he has dones this before
mircea_popescu: so mail fraud.
nubbins`: dub, herb is apparently a wizard
herbijudlestoids: iv listened to you guys spouting all kinds of dumb shit today
nubbins`: poor guy
nubbins`: want a back rub?
herbijudlestoids: id prefer you just verified things before spoutingthem as fact
nubbins`: i'd prefer if you fucked off
nubbins`: guess we're both not getting what we want
herbijudlestoids: k, enjoy your ignorance
nubbins`: what a tool
mircea_popescu: i can't believe someone took that seriously.
dub: this guy was taking shrapnel in khe sanh when you were crapping inyour hands and rubbing it in your face
dub: aww he raged
nubbins`: he was taking shrapnel last week?
nubbins`: no wonder he's so mad
mircea_popescu: nubbins` seriously tho, it's way more likely the avenger troop was just some vendor/ the sr itself doing pr.
dub: I thought we talked about bath salts
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: could be. they did out some frauds tho
mircea_popescu: did the frauds confess ?
nubbins`: they vanished
mircea_popescu: sr would be in a position to see complaints.
nubbins`: well, the review system worked pretty well too
nubbins`: "lsd was bunk, do not buy"
nubbins`: or "nice mild effects" left as a review for 5-MeO-DMT
moiety: ;;gpg eregister moiety 6DF881D6696B6111
gribble: Request successful for user moiety, hostmask moiety!~smuxi@unaffiliated/moiety. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/6DF881D6696B6111
nubbins`: there's actually very few lsd manufacturers left, both due to risk and availability of precursors
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00085157 = 13.4548 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: moiety hey, nice.
nubbins`: generally your end product is coming from a handful of sources
nubbins`: a few vendors actually sold pure crystal
nubbins`: that was pretty rare tho
nubbins`: "By the time Silk Road shut down, The Avengers had reviewed 60 vendors, rating them on factors like packaging quality, shipping time, and price."
nubbins`: afaik the forums are gone forever, and with them, all those reviews
mircea_popescu: maybe it was some kid with a night shift at a lab or something.
nubbins`: could be. was a nice service
mircea_popescu: tho, you familiar with the recent mass scandal are you ?
nubbins`: don't think so
mircea_popescu: forensic chemist was discovered to have lied on thousands of reports
mircea_popescu: they ended up having to review ~10k cases
nubbins`: aha! yipes.
nubbins`: she obviously didn't spend all her extra free time buying clothes
benkay: great way to get out of us jury duty: "i don't accept p-values greater than 0.001, and also I don't trust forensic 'scientists'"
mircea_popescu: you won't get excused.
benkay: oh but i did
nubbins`: heh.
mircea_popescu: what srsly ?!
benkay: mhm
mircea_popescu: you found a judge that knew what p is ?
benkay: effectively "I will break this jury"
nubbins`: i was an alternate juror once, didn't quite make the cut
mircea_popescu: where the fuck.
benkay: nope. voir dire.
benkay: voire dire?
nubbins`: voir
benkay: the preselection where the lawyers kick everyone out who has an inkling of intelligence.
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: i made it past that point
mircea_popescu: well then you got kicked not excused
mircea_popescu: that i made no representation of.
nubbins`: it was some domestic abuse trial, most of the female jurors got the boot
nubbins`: i'm a large angry man, i got to stay
benkay: ya well see above "great way to get out of"
mircea_popescu: that i saw.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how are you large
dub: I managed to do somethign to get unpicked at the benkay stage
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00546087 = 0.3167 BTC [+] {3}
dub: quite surprised to have been summoned tbh
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: 188cm, 100kg!
nubbins`: i'm not medium
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00546 = 0.1529 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i never got jurydutied, but i was once in the team kicking you ppl off
diametric: in maryland atheists aren't allowed to serve on juries.
mircea_popescu: not sure how well known this is, but esp in the larger trials the jury selection team of a well funded defender may include > 100 people
dub: I was easy
nubbins`: diametric WHAT
diametric: i mean i guess if i wanted to serve it would be easy to fight
nubbins`: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
dub: 'you have how many convictions?'
nubbins`: WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
mircea_popescu: nubbins` won't swear on the bible
dub: it means don't go to america
dub: ever.
nubbins`: you're not given the option to take a "solemn oath"?
dub: best case, nuke it from orbit
mircea_popescu: dub just accept gizas already in your heart dubsy
moiety: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c9f70550bfb1f08e79daa780040970b356f24d938d2411e7d4a9b059
gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user moiety with key 6DF881D6696B6111
diametric: nubbins`: Article 36 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights says I have to believe in God: "nor shall any person, otherwise competent, be deemed incompetent as a witness, or juror, on account of his religious belief; provided, he believes in the existence of God, and that under His dispensation such person will be held morally accountable for his acts, and be rewarded or punished therefore either in this world
diametric: or in the world to come.""
nubbins`: when we dragged our dirtbag ex-tenants to a hearing, the only ones who lied through their teeth were the ones who swore on a bible rather than doing an affirmation
moiety: \o/ think that's me on WoT mircea_popescu!
mircea_popescu: smart girl.
nubbins`: diametric: to me, that says something other than what you said.
mircea_popescu: there's a cookie.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how ?!
nubbins`: diametric: that seems to say that you can't be deemed incompetent for believing in god
mircea_popescu: you misread.
nubbins`: nor shall any person be deemed incompetent on account of religious belief, provided he believes in god
dub: you missed the provided
diametric: no it clearly states I'm only competent to serve so long as I believe in God
mircea_popescu: won't be deemed incompetent for his religious belief if and only if he believes in god
moiety: woah thats a way better cookie than all these sites usually try to give me.....
nubbins`: that's saying you can call a pastafarian retarded
nubbins`: not that you have to swear on a bible.
mircea_popescu: a pastafarian is retarded
diametric: Article 37 also prevents me from holding office
diametric: ""That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God;""
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: nah, they're just having a lel
mircea_popescu: diametric did you want to hold mariland office ?!
diametric: mircea_popescu: fuck no
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43500 @ 0.00085048 = 36.9959 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i was thinking... wait, THAT is what prevents you ?
diametric: haha
the20year: hmm , i imagine falling during snowboarding and then breaking your helmet isn't good
nubbins`: the20year: saw that
dub: no automagically bad
nubbins`: that was a HARD fall
nubbins`: backwards downhill
the20year: Yeah
nubbins`: the entire womens event was much less exciting than the mens
the20year: I wonder if they show the same stuff at the same time in canada, i know here it's all recorded
nubbins`: biggest rotation was a 1080!
the20year: Always is
nubbins`: i watched it hours ago on the internet
the20year: Remember , in china one woman got a comparable score to a man and they all said it was a conspiracy
the20year: I'd looove to see them do mixed gender sports
nubbins`: nah, would be no fun
the20year: Would prove a point to the sexists that women and men are differnet :D
nubbins`: i don't know if even the hardcore feminists believe that women and men perform equally well in sports
the20year: i've talked to quite a few who seem to think that
mircea_popescu: the20year women and men aren't different iyo ?!
nubbins`: did you tell them that testosterone builds muscle?
the20year: They refused it
nubbins`: i uh
nubbins`: well then
the20year: Look at how many women want women in combat operations in the US
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5919 @ 0.00085209 = 5.0435 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: again with what people want.
the20year: The marines refuse to change their testing methods, army was sued to the point of compliance
nubbins`: sure, but the US military is spread thinner than the butter on bilbo's bread
nubbins`: they almost have to take women
nubbins`: or else start a draft
mircea_popescu: lol ayup.
the20year: Not really, as it stands now they can scale enlistment if they play with iring bonuses
the20year: *hiring
mircea_popescu: "why turn down pretty much the only people who still WANT to be in"
mircea_popescu: yeah, budget just got cut for the nth consecutive year.
nubbins`: "joining the military gave me the opportunities to get raped and belittled that i've been missing my entire life"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` nine in ten gangbang participants are there voluntarily.
dub: don't discount the free mobility scooter you get a the end
mircea_popescu: it's free now ?!
nubbins`: "free"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 41 @ 0.0055 = 0.2255 BTC
nubbins`: with the purchase of a one-way flight to kandahar
gribble: Time since last block: 13 minutes and 52 seconds
nubbins`: there's your answer
nubbins`: lel, the reagent pouch says "contains strong acid"
the20year: Gonna get some video Tuesday of some fantastic properties in central Ohio
nubbins`: there's a joke in there
benkay: "fantastic" "central ohio"
benkay: sounds like a good chuckle to me.
nubbins`: i meant the image i posted
benkay: i know ;)
nubbins`: but that too, i guess
the20year: it was kind of a joke
the20year: I've got 3 candidates i'm gonna go take a look at, highest one is priced at $34k
nubbins`: from what i understand about america
benkay: coming out of the btc you've raised?
nubbins`: you can name any place and people will tell you it sucks
nubbins`: "oh, the midwest? gross"
the20year: if any of them are good candidates, maybe
benkay: how much rentalstarter have you sold through your ipo, the20year?
nubbins`: "the south? jeez"
the20year: As of now a little shy of $100k in fiat
nubbins`: "virginias? ugh"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33550 @ 0.00085508 = 28.6879 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: ;;calc 100000/700
gribble: 142.857142857
benkay: dang man
benkay: ponzi.io pulled in more than that in the fifteen minutes it was running
the20year: I was pretty surprised at how much $$$ they were pulling in
nubbins`: ;;google .io tld
gribble: .io - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.io>; NIC.IO - The Indian Ocean .IO Domain Registry and Network ...: <http://www.nic.io/>; Register .IO Domain: Buy TLD Extension/Suffix British Indian Ocean ...: <https://iwantmyname.com/domains/io-domain-name-registration-for-british-indian-ocean-territory>
nubbins`: interesting
nubbins`: ;;later tell truffles i wanted to play chess but you weren't here
gribble: The operation succeeded.
nubbins`: ^ muahahaha
mircea_popescu: benkay he could have pulled in just as much if he bought his own stock the same way.
mircea_popescu: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (4547 shares, 25.00850000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (24033 shares, 132.18150000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (24033 shares, 132.18150000 BTC)
mircea_popescu: 25 btc != 100k usd are they ?
mircea_popescu: o wait, it's been a week
ozbot: Betanomics.asia - Storing and Sending Bitcoins Directly from Your Brain using BrainControl.me
nubbins`: ^ almost sent some dust to try looking for the usual holes, realized i can't be bothered
copumpkin: selling 25 btc for $100k, any takers?
copumpkin: these are some high quality coins I'm offering
nubbins`: hong kong dollars, errrrr...?
copumpkin: nah, USD
nubbins`: gross, do not hold
benkay: ;;ticker --market
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message)
copumpkin: oh well, no high-quality coins for you then
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 696.36, Best ask: 701.5, Bid-ask spread: 5.14000, Last trade: 700.81, 24 hour volume: 57173.56, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 688.31
dub: zimbabwe dollars
benkay: ;;calc 696.36*132.1815
gribble: 92045.90934
dub: so gox..
dub: end game or end game
copumpkin: benkay: there's also a market sell/buy command
the20year: I don't know what 25btc is over that time period, we're around 140btc
benkay: ;;market sell
gribble: (market sell [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is mtgox. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.
benkay: ;;market sell 130
gribble: A market order to sell 130 bitcoins right now would net 88784.0021 USD and would take the last price down to 680.0200 USD, resulting in an average price of 682.9539 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0708 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.06914002 = 0.6914 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: so what i'm going to do is find my laptop charger, pour a bowl of cereal, and listen to bad brains
the20year: Coinbase price right now is 724/brc
the20year: *btc
benkay: coinbase?
benkay: what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
benkay: and also good luck getting that price.
the20year: It should be no less than 720
mircea_popescu: they actually buy from you at 724 ?
the20year: Right around there
the20year: let me see what their price would be
diametric: mircea_popescu: they do
diametric: its also locked at time of purchase/sale. I'd be worried about holding your coins in coinbase though.
the20year: I try to avoid holding anything substantial in there
mircea_popescu: historically they're very waffly with actually delivering at the price but hey.
ozbot: BAD BRAINS - Black Dots 1978 [FULL ALBUM] - YouTube
the20year: I've sold around 600btc with them
the20year: err, no , it'd be more around 900
diametric: mircea_popescu: theres the occasional report of orders canceled during a "high"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.123 = 0.246 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: or low as tyhe case may be
the20year: ‏‎50btc sold via coinabse would be 35,995.50
nubbins`: re: this "braincontrol.me" / "coinpunk" stuff
nubbins`: great that they're trying to get btc on iphones
diametric: selling 50btc on coinbase will almost certainly be reported to the IRS, and also likely cause a SAR to be filed by your bank.
nubbins`: but i'm not blindly trusting some random html5 website, for eternity
the20year: Your point?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12233333 = 0.367 BTC [-] {3}
the20year: The money is reported to the IRS anyway
benkay: nubbins`: the point with coinpunk is to run a web wallet for your friends.
nubbins`: wait, what?
benkay: not to be industrial-grade wallet for the masses.
nubbins`: did i 100% misunderstand
benkay: yup.
benkay: it's a zero-trust self hosted thing
mircea_popescu: diametric the guy is in the business of buying up real estate and renting it out
mircea_popescu: i'd expect he has paperwork in order
nubbins`: ohhhhh.
nubbins`: coinpunk.org vs coinpunk.com
diametric: mircea_popescu: i would hope so
benkay: more than happy to forward any comments on security/threat model to kyle
nubbins`: sort of like wordpress.org/.com
nubbins`: now i see
benkay: something like that, sure
nubbins`: wait, are .org and .com even the same outfit?
mircea_popescu: benkay who's kyle
nubbins`: WELL THEN
nubbins`: nicely diluted brand
benkay: it's impossible to tell, but i'll check with him sometime.
benkay: kyledrake
benkay: aka Kyle Drake
nubbins`: .com looks less legit
diametric: nubbins`: i mis-read i thought you were asking about the registry level.
diametric: nubbins`: like literally .org and .com
nubbins`: no, coinpunk.org / coinpunk.com
benkay: mircea_popescu: http://kyledrake.net/
nubbins`: starting to think .com is scamming
benkay: that is a downside to the model - unless you actually know the server operator they can deliver anything they want to your browser.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.122 BTC [-]
nubbins`: at least with brainwallet.org etc you can host the files locally
benkay: but this is similar to the web wallet threat model anyways - don't trust strangers with your bitcoins.
nubbins`: no such option on a phone
nubbins`: man, i gotta say
nubbins`: bad brains is a fucking great band
nubbins`: kind of amazing that the most intense hardcore punk band i can think of is four black guys who started doing it in the 70s
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Who needs a phone when IRC is a thing?
nubbins`: humans :(
moiety: BingoBoingo: i have been gpg-ing. mircea told me to get my arse on wot. so there i am! didn't even bug him for help
BingoBoingo: moiety: Congrats. Think how far ahead you would have been should you have tried this when it was first suggested?
moiety: 2015: i might try an order
mod6: its easy, there is a wiki for gribble :)
BingoBoingo: Eh, prolly look at the order book and see if there are any you can fill in the next month or two. I mean moiety, Your key could have been 5, 6, 7 months older.
moiety: i wish everything was command line
moiety: true BingoBoingo i'm not in any kind of rush mind you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.072 = 0.288 BTC [+] {3}
moiety: happy reading, observing, drinking in atm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.19376446 = 1.9376 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0725 = 0.2175 BTC [+] {2}
joecool: how's it going?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: i'm going to bed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.07345 = 1.1752 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1215 = 0.3645 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 330 @ 0.00300012 = 0.99 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: nitey nite
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you didn';t use the magic word
BingoBoingo: Prolly
mircea_popescu: joecool pretty cool
mircea_popescu: moiety so, would you like some atc ?
BingoBoingo: Should have said sudo
joecool: mircea_popescu: nubbins` was talking about romanians in OTC so i thought of you
joecool: not too many other romanians online actually say useful things
mircea_popescu: was he saying bad things ?
joecool: no he was talking of some other romanian
mircea_popescu: wait there's other romanians online ?!
joecool: that's what i thought
mircea_popescu: what heresy is this
joecool: i always assumed they were too busy chasing chickens to come online (i have tried this pastime, it was exciting for an afternoon)
mircea_popescu: full disclosure : when i was about 5 my uncle told me that ducks absolutely have to be serviced by having their tail turned with a fixed wrench
mircea_popescu: or else they may die
mircea_popescu: and so i spent half a day chasing ducks with a fixed wrench
joecool: seems legit
joecool: does romania have a tourism agency?
mircea_popescu: what's that ? like a travel agent ?
joecool: hm maybe not the correct word, a government PR campaign
mircea_popescu: a. prolly.
joecool: "come to romania, our ducks are the best to chase"
mircea_popescu: ;;google campanie vizitati romania
gribble: "WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER?" Răspunsul Gândul la campania ...: <http://www.gandul.info/stiri/why-don-t-you-come-over-raspunsul-gandul-la-campania-britanica-nu-veniti-in-anglia-update-10528548>; PENNY Market Romania: <http://www.penny.ro/>; Mirela Stelea sustine campania Romania, tara inimilor mari - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNZfS927XVw>
benkay: hey joecool
joecool: hey?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00085379 = 11.3554 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: Should be interesting to see how shit settles with their fractional reserve out of the picture.
KRS-One: interesting yep
benkay: BingoBoingo: total shitshow impending. "oh, bitcoins on sale you say? mt gox fell apart and bitcoin is still around? guess i better throw ten US shitbucks into it" waits three weeks "well damn now i need a return on my bitcoins" BS&T v.2
KRS-One: now a good time to short?
benkay: KRS-One, BingoBoingo: when gox actually folds, do you think there'll be a significant leg down?
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: Good time to probably go long 6-12 months. Gox dying prolly removes a bunch of fake BTC and fake dollars. It will take time to figure out what there was more of.
BingoBoingo: benkay: The thing about shitshows is that it is best to watch the cripple fight and wait to act.
joecool: imma take the blame for mtgox falling apparent
joecool: *apart
joecool: spread some FUD a couple nights ago and it started a run, then they ceased withdrawals
joecool: exposed: mtgox the bucket shop
benkay: mircea_popescu you're just cheating now
mircea_popescu: a man using his father's sword is not cheating. he is my father, i use which is mine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21117 @ 0.00085512 = 18.0576 BTC [+]
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