Hide Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-04-27 | 2013-04-29 → ↓
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.479 = 2.395 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01 = 0.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45000001 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.47889999 = 0.9578 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4787 = 2.3935 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4787 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.4501 = 4.9511 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47899999 = 1.437 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.479 = 2.395 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.48 = 1.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4824 = 1.4472 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4824 = 1.4472 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 380 @ 0.00302263 = 1.1486 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1059 @ 0.00069449 = 0.7355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00068417 = 2.7709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00068289 = 3.7559 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4669 = 1.4007 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.298 = 6.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.299899 = 6.4995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4426 = 3.5408 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.44250001 = 1.3275 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4649 = 3.7192 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4425 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44138 = 1.7655 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44138 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44135 = 2.2068 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4412 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.47150001 = 4.715 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43505 = 0.8701 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4305 = 0.861 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4305 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4305 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4848999 = 4.849 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4314 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4313 = 1.7252 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.4314 = 7.3338 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4754 = 2.8524 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4798 = 1.4394 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47989999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.47989999 = 1.9196 BTC [+]
topace_: wow vtx is on fire tonight
topace_: !ticker h vtx
assbot: [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.43050000 / 0.46243864 / 0.48489990 (270 shares, 124.85843305 BTC), 7D: 0.39140000 / 0.45680882 / 0.49750000 (1142 shares, 521.67567442 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40186193 / 0.61488800 (6201 shares, 2491.94585868 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.47989999 = 2.3995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4370002 = 4.37 BTC [-]
dub: !seen burnside
dub: ;;seen burnside
gribble: burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, 57 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <burnside> gonna be traveling for the next week or so. any inquiries PM me on the forums or send a support request via btct.co.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4799 = 3.8392 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4477 = 1.3431 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.44999999 = 1.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.434 = 2.604 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4698 = 2.349 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.43415 = 1.3025 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4341 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4341 = 1.3023 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4647 = 2.7882 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4647 = 1.8588 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4304 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 5 @ 0.00171 = 0.0086 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.4304 = 7.7472 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4744 = 1.4232 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4744 = 0.9488 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4752 = 1.4256 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4752 = 2.8512 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4305 = 2.583 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4304 = 1.7216 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4314 = 0.8628 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4314 = 0.8628 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4304 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.210001 = 2.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.45 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 13 @ 0.0044 = 0.0572 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4714 = 4.714 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4649 = 1.3947 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.441 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4639 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45499999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43030001 = 0.8606 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.435 = 0.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [+]
xait9: anyone wanna talk btc derivs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4304 = 2.5824 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.447 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4304 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4638 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4304 = 0.8608 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;seen jurov
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 38 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <jurov> hi mjr___
jurov: yea i'm on it
jurov: but mpex must process it first
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.455 = 0.91 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.445 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.453 = 0.906 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4306 = 0.8612 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4306 = 3.0142 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4538 = 3.1766 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu "mpbor says 12%, but i received 12.5% on bonds. i don't mind but deprived will likely find out :D"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4669 = 0.9338 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4308 = 0.8616 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4668 BTC [+]
jurov: capital expenses : 805.64125 BTC (6`445.13 × 12.5%) seems it really should be 12.5%
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46666 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4666 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4666 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.431 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.295 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.099 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 59 @ 0.01 = 0.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.295 = 11.655 BTC [-]
seongyupyoo: Mircea here?
seongyupyoo: Does anybody know how to make a blackhole address?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 1.7798 = 14.2384 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31999995 = 0.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
KRS1: u guys hear about the attack on ltc
KRS1: <+Luke-Jr> ne0futur: also, to demonstrate, work is underway to 51% litecoin
Chaang-Noi: is luke doing it?
KRS1: was going to ask him myself..idk
Chaang-Noi: seems hard to do
KRS1: <ukru> dub: What channel is this luke-jr conversation taking place in - bitcoinb-otc ?
KRS1: idk not much speed/power going on there i think
Chaang-Noi: there are a lot of miners mining ltc
Luke-Jr: Chaang-Noi: ltc scrypt is super-weak to FPGAs
KRS1: heh there we go
Chaang-Noi: if they have the ram
Luke-Jr: Chaang-Noi: even without RAM
Chaang-Noi: it seems silly to me that someone would go to the trouble to make a bunch of fpgas just to attack a coin and not mine for profit
Luke-Jr: don't need to make them
Luke-Jr: just a bitstream for existing bitcoin fpgas
Chaang-Noi: so, this is your project then?
Luke-Jr: nope
Luke-Jr: not mine
Chaang-Noi: i kinda doubt someone go to that trouble to kill litecoin when they could make massive oney
Luke-Jr: well, they plan to do both :p
Chaang-Noi: who is they?
Luke-Jr: not telling that
Chaang-Noi: well they will need a shit load of fpgas anyway
Luke-Jr: 10 is enough
Luke-Jr: maybe a few more if more GPUs switch
Chaang-Noi: i kinda doub that
Chaang-Noi: 10 fpgas can out do 1000's if not 10,000s gpus
Chaang-Noi: i find that very hard to belive
Luke-Jr: well, we'll see when it's done
maximian: luke-jr: i missed some of the conversation - is this attack underway or will it be soon?
Luke-Jr: maximian: probably in a few weeks
maximian: interesting
maximian: should be fun watching the trollbox :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: time to dump all my ltc (troll face)
mircea_popescu: jurov no it was 12.5
mircea_popescu: o i see, it's 12.5 in the capital expenses and 12 in mpbor line lol. ty.
mircea_popescu: and top o' da mornin' to everyone.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0159 = 0.0318 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ,prning
Chaang-Noi: i mean morning
mircea_popescu: lol. hi.
mircea_popescu: how's the pietrilla conference ?
Chaang-Noi: i think he invited you
Chaang-Noi: he updated his thread
Chaang-Noi: honestly i dont think anyone will go
Chaang-Noi: even if it was going to do something its like a week away
Chaang-Noi: or 2 weeks
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why is he going so weird about things.
mircea_popescu: i mean, on the face of it : he seems to have a silver broker business or something.
mircea_popescu: instead of being sane he's been making himself this assclown all over the forum (way before this supernode thing, if you read his history)
mircea_popescu: i just don't get it.
Chaang-Noi: i think he just made like a shit load of money and thinks it will keep going up at this rate
mircea_popescu: he doesn't really sound like that to me, but hey.
Chaang-Noi: if he bought his 2400 coins at $10 thats a good return for a few months
Chaang-Noi: maybe he just cant handle the wealthy
mircea_popescu: get out of here.
mircea_popescu: he bought his coins by selling silver and buying in the 1-200 range
mircea_popescu: he's said so, at that time.
Chaang-Noi: i see
Chaang-Noi: well...
Chaang-Noi: i dont know then
Chaang-Noi: maybe he just expects it to go to crazy, he said 300$ for mBTC in 2014
Chaang-Noi: thats like what 20k usd per coins? something silly...
mircea_popescu: 300k per coin.
mircea_popescu: 1btc = 1k mbtc neh ?
Chaang-Noi: thats a bit much
Chaang-Noi: maybe he is trying to be a btc player but is just too noob to know wtf he is doing
mircea_popescu: there. if he didn't sell during the collapse, he has some coins bought at 70ish
mircea_popescu: like 2k btc.
Chaang-Noi: he said he did not sell at the 200 but told others too
Chaang-Noi: he claims to have 2.4k ish btc
mircea_popescu: i mean, if he didn't sell in a panic back in march when btc collapsed to 50,
mircea_popescu: then he might still have 2, heck, 2.5k btc bought at 72
mircea_popescu: which is a pretty decent gains, whatever, 100k usd or what is it
Chaang-Noi: yeah i remember him talking about buying them at 70ish
Chaang-Noi: he was trying to get someone to buy for him
mircea_popescu: so then that's it.
Chaang-Noi: i wondered if he was a scammer at the time, guess not
mircea_popescu: well, this is all no proof.
Chaang-Noi: its in the now locked wall observer thread
mircea_popescu: it's just if we follow his own declarations there's a coherent construction that can be made.
Chaang-Noi: he could not even prove he had 13 btc, and lost it to a troll, that was fucking lulz
Chaang-Noi: im not sure what his conferance is really about, other than showing off how rich he/we are
Chaang-Noi: seems silly
mircea_popescu: well basically mpoe-pr was saying he's trying to copy mine
mircea_popescu: not necessarily a bad idea but he's going assbackwards about things
Chaang-Noi: you had a conferance?
mircea_popescu: well yes.
Chaang-Noi: i did not get the invite:)
mircea_popescu: well ya, most nobody did.
mircea_popescu: the select comittee on bitcoin affairs.
Chaang-Noi: was it in romania?
mircea_popescu: there, see who you recognise.
Chaang-Noi: eric and you
Chaang-Noi: i think iv seen the guy on the far left
Chaang-Noi: on top photo
mircea_popescu: well that's something.
Chaang-Noi: then you pr girl on the lower one
Chaang-Noi: thats about it
mircea_popescu: next to her is my cfo and next to her is my lead counsel.
Chaang-Noi: yeah id not know them
mircea_popescu: and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto
mircea_popescu: i guess this is the only biz in bitcoin with more women than men involved or some shit.
Chaang-Noi: what about the brothels that take btc?
mircea_popescu: do those exist yet ?
Chaang-Noi: iv been told they do, in eurpe
mircea_popescu: eh this legend with europe
mircea_popescu: before the btc brothel, everyone in bdsm was convinced there exist these magical dungeons "in europe"
mircea_popescu: for some reason everyone thinks everything they can dream up is in europe. sorta like a modern day xanadu
Chaang-Noi: iv seen an advertisemnt, could have been a hoax
Chaang-Noi: long time ago and it was on tor
Chaang-Noi: i dont know it was real or not
Chaang-Noi: i was just looking to see what btc operations were on tor
Chaang-Noi: evidently some freelancers take btc too
mircea_popescu: well ya.
mircea_popescu: it's weird tho, pretty much the money trail is the only way to make a prostitution bust stick
mircea_popescu: yet afaik the girls haven't figured out bitcoin.
Chaang-Noi: well customers need to have it
usagi: it looks like nefario is in the second picture.......
usagi: lol that really does look like him doesn' tit
mircea_popescu: customers don't want their car impounded.
mircea_popescu: i'm not talking about being a lazy ass cokehead and taking whatwever customers have.
mircea_popescu: i'm talking about being smart. which actually many whores are.
Chaang-Noi: nefario? lol
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,hash 5000
gribble: Error: "bc,hash" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: bah. what's the command to eval mining results ?
Chaang-Noi: no idea
mircea_popescu: ;;genrate 5000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 5000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.280192739128 BTC per day and 0.0116746974637 BTC per hour.
Chaang-Noi: who is the guy left of eric in the tip photo?
mircea_popescu: so people are bidding 30 btc on those blade boards for a chance to make .3 a day ?
mircea_popescu: ridoinculous.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi he's in this chan, all i'm gonna say.
Chaang-Noi: iv seen him before
Chaang-Noi: jurov?
Namworld: Everything mining related is now ridiculously expensive
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi no, jurov is in the other pic
Chaang-Noi: well i know iv seen him before
Chaang-Noi: if not met him
mircea_popescu: i'm curious if you remember.
Chaang-Noi: burtw?
mircea_popescu: Namworld yea i agree. i mean... 100 days to breakeven w/o power or any other costs
mircea_popescu: and then there's going to be a ton of these deployed
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi nah
mircea_popescu: burtw is not in this chan is he
Chaang-Noi: well i dont know, but im pretty sure iv seen him before somewhere
mircea_popescu: unless he wants to out himself...
Chaang-Noi: not a big deal
mircea_popescu: ;;nethash
gribble: 72692.2434045
mircea_popescu: 72th, srsly ?!
mircea_popescu: boy we've grown.
Chaang-Noi: people are buying gpus to mine, no joke
mircea_popescu: yeah at this price...
Chaang-Noi: and i wonder if bfl is mining with their half working shit
Chaang-Noi: id almost buy shit too, and then mine ltc with it
Chaang-Noi: but im pretty lazy
Chaang-Noi: AM is adding as well
mircea_popescu: "if you get back all your btc, while me and others lost all our fiat, i will do everything to make the site owner life hard not to share the lost beetween customers"
mircea_popescu: lol. fiat sucks. get used to it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0159 = 0.0636 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 21 @ 0.0163 = 0.3423 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1018 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1025 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.003322 = 0.0066 BTC [+]
KRS1: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.860826 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172508566571 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
kakobrekla: 13:04.26 ( Chaang-Noi ) people are buying gpus to mine, no joke
kakobrekla: they are even buying ztex fpga
kakobrekla: which is like ~1k eur for less than a GH
kakobrekla: retaded
kakobrekla: also i have seen icarus which costs 500e or something to go for 15bt
kakobrekla: a used one ofc.
KRS1: wow..whats next? little kids wont even be able go get that new gpu they wanted to play space warriors X for Christmas?
mircea_popescu: pretty much.
mircea_popescu: luckily the good gpus (ati) are useless for mining
mircea_popescu: this may perversely actually destroy nvidia
mircea_popescu: as we buy all their products they're losing market share in the gaming mkt.
KRS1: ATI are useless for mining? Thats all I used to use..hell 3 6970's gave me 1.2 Ghash
mircea_popescu: or wait no
mircea_popescu: i got it backwards. nvidia.
KRS1: nvidia..the other way round =D
KRS1: man did they miss the boat on that one
KRS1: they were looking for an entirely different market like weather modeling
KRS1: sorry for correcting you- easy mistake to make
KRS1: lol@bitpotato.com
Chaang-Noi: kakobrekla you saw on ebay some of the cassicus coins selling for 2k usd?
Chaang-Noi: people just want into btc
KRS1: wtf is next..tampons?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean sorry lol. if you hadn't said anything it'd still be there lol
kakobrekla: i have some of those coins
kakobrekla: but i dont have ebay acc
Chaang-Noi: i have some as well
Chaang-Noi: yeah same here, fuck ebay
kakobrekla: Chaang-Noi ill sell for 1k to you and you sell for 2k on bay
Chaang-Noi: i have my own but thanks:) also fuck ebay:)
kakobrekla: this bitcoin is getting all fucked up
kakobrekla: too main stream
mircea_popescu: omg scam
mircea_popescu: you know, thios would be pretty cool, iof instead of claiming hack
Chaang-Noi: just wait until paypal and western union start using it
mircea_popescu: the scammer start claiming "too lame".
Chaang-Noi: AM selling 50 blades this time around
KRS1: how can i get in on them blades
Chaang-Noi: auction on the forum
kakobrekla: urlpls
mircea_popescu: ya it was like at 30
Chaang-Noi: no paypal
mircea_popescu: i was saying before, insanity.
Chaang-Noi: a day left still
Chaang-Noi: last went for 75
Chaang-Noi: these should go 50 ormore
kakobrekla: top ptice is 35 now
kakobrekla: ::calc bc,convert eur
mircea_popescu: da fuck tho seriously. they are 5gh/s right ?
kakobrekla: im half sleep
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 133.83000 U.S. dollars = 102.732786 Euros
kakobrekla: also half sheep
mircea_popescu: btw did you see the fluorescent sheeps ?
kakobrekla: i dont think so
Chaang-Noi: they are 10 ghs
kakobrekla: ;;bc,genrate 1
gribble: Error: "bc,genrate" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: ;;bc,gen 1
gribble: use the 'genrate' command instead
mircea_popescu: ;;genrate 10000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
kakobrekla: dammit
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi ok so not quite insane as i originally thought. still pretty insane
kakobrekla: thats 10 jigga hash right
kakobrekla: sheesh
mircea_popescu: and! diff is for sure 10mn by end of month
mircea_popescu: or ealry next
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 233564 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 291 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9972380.59898 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.12159
kakobrekla: that bet
mircea_popescu: like JUST on the cusp.
mircea_popescu: incredible shit.
kakobrekla: so hm
kakobrekla: you need 100 days at current diff
kakobrekla: to get the money back
kakobrekla: which is more like 300
kakobrekla: on the end
kakobrekla: if the board lives that long
mircea_popescu: o look at this. Chaang-Noi apparently you're invited.
mircea_popescu: "Goat MP satoshi"
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 398 @ 0.005 = 1.99 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ikr?
kakobrekla: i guess im out
mircea_popescu: "I purposely omitted people not in this forum from the list."
mircea_popescu: see ? i'm on the forum. you're not.
mircea_popescu: funny list tho
kakobrekla: where is that from?
mircea_popescu: sorta informative,
mircea_popescu: shows us what the noobs think are the movers and shakers.
mircea_popescu: sirius etc.
mircea_popescu: sorta like asking the tv crowd their idea on who runs america
mircea_popescu: "that rap producer guy, that boxing promoter guy, obama and that chick on twitter".
kakobrekla: im not on the list.
mircea_popescu: "The reason there are pledges, which cost more and more when the # of participants is increasing, is that otherwise I would benefit too much from the tickets. The ticket income increases quadratically with the number of admissions, the costs go up perhaps in the 1.5th power. "
mircea_popescu: this math. bitcoin is based on it.
pigeons: maff
kakobrekla: imma just a sub node sector zappa 6b
kakobrekla: not relevant enough :(
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299899 = 2.5998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.3 = 32.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.3 = 18.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla The mystery man came over and he said "I'm outta sight!"
mircea_popescu: He said for a nominal service charge I could reach nirvana tonight
KRS1: I wouldnt mind reaching nirvana at some point..i'm sure it involves a long legged blonde at some point
KRS1: d'oh
error4733: ;;next
gribble: targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 42 seconds ago
Chaang-Noi: mp yeah i said you got invited and yeah me too, right along with satoshi, lulz
Chaang-Noi: mp that list is mostly people from the wall obeservation thread
Chaang-Noi: i would not mind going to findland but i really dont think much will come of this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066644 = 3.3322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00066643 = 3.4321 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lol what?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00300427 = 3.6051 BTC [-]
Uglux: wow dat AM auction, and still one day left
ThickAsThieves: these call options are overpriced...
ThickAsThieves: $195 is best breakeven
error4733: Mp backstop ;)
ThickAsThieves: so now we need 50% swings to make any money...
ThickAsThieves: bastion of satbility that is
ThickAsThieves: stability*
error4733: how many 50% swing this month ?
error4733: 4? 5?
ThickAsThieves: except when it was factoring those it was even worse
ThickAsThieves: also, what about the 2years of history before
ThickAsThieves: your point makes sense
ThickAsThieves: but it also cripples options
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 1 @ 0.79690016 BTC
error4733: Haha,
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C107T] 3 @ 0.45517597 = 1.3655 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: there :/
ThickAsThieves: i'll dabble
error4733: i'm with you for the call
error4733: just need one drama monday
mircea_popescu: error4733 ya lol
error4733: black april is not finish yet... be ready for the final
mircea_popescu: "You can easily buy money with coolness. You can hardly buy coolness with money."
mircea_popescu: dude this thread is gomedy cold.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla wtf, is assets +i now ?
kakobrekla: my bad
mircea_popescu: ppl were like "invite me plz" i was wtf ?!
KRS-1: ya well I started talking shit about obama and next thing i know my power went out
Chaang-Noi: i was kicked?
kakobrekla: not yet
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi well ironically i usually go to finland/estonia/whatever in summer
mircea_popescu: but april kinda early.
Chaang-Noi: * Cannot join #bitcoin-assets (Channel is invite only).
Chaang-Noi: well its in may but still
Chaang-Noi: id be tempted to go if some other btc people were going but its too soon
mircea_popescu: i kinda don't like these "let's do something everything" affairs tbh.
Chaang-Noi: yeah, i dont see what will be done, i also dont see who is going
KRS-1: Thank you Mircea, you were the only one I could think of. Who can I msg next time or who is ops that is usually here
mircea_popescu: i don't have ops lol
Chaang-Noi: kako has ops
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla if you want +i you probably need to add a whole list of +I first
mircea_popescu: might not even be the worst idea.
mircea_popescu: of course +r has the disadvantage that all the noob chicks wanting to go topless mpoe-pr keeps sending over won't be able to get it anymoar.
mircea_popescu: !t m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.96737151 / 197.9610204 / 305.88369172 (94 shares, 7.88 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
KRS-1: wtf
KRS-1: damnit gribble
KRS-1: noobs are buying up those potatos
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3085 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3086 = 2.6172 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3085 = 2.617 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3085 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00275 = 0.022 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3086 = 5.2344 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3086 = 3.9258 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0163 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: or +m and have a voicelist
kakobrekla: but whatever it will be, it will be after the boobs are found.
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 316 @ 0.005 = 1.58 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah. trilema is +m and voicelisted.
KRS-1: anyone know this cat Betcoin was 6d825f55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.130.95.85 * 109.130.95.85
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.28 = 11.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00065421 = 9.8132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.0006524 = 2.2508 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.308 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3088 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.319 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00066367 = 18.0518 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00067064 = 2.3546 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.015 = 0.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9851 @ 0.00067648 = 6.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 55 @ 0.001887 = 0.1038 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: nice to see AM at 1.28 bids:)
Chaang-Noi: should be really nice this time next week
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1998 = 0.3996 BTC [-]
truff1es: boobs arent all the same size thats why the algorithm duh
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 50
gribble: There are currently 161577.74 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 13993939.8375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0085 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 200
gribble: There are currently 75062.168 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 12494310.4521 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0760 seconds
thestringpuller: tiberiusiv: can we be friends?
thestringpuller: Or do you only take payment in bitcoin for your friend services?
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00010, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03990, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 53937.13488029, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.76267
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu wouldn't you say this quote also applies to Paul Graham? >> " the crappy start-ups that got funding at high valuations are struggling and are unable to get Series B funding, dropping like flies, creating a tech bubble"
mircea_popescu: writing brb.
thestringpuller: Also mircea_popescu apparently she's the CEO of the company that produces this: http://www.blueseventy.com/products/2012-helix-full-suit
truff1es: i'll take friendship monies anytime
mircea_popescu: aha ? not bad
thestringpuller: Alright mircea_popescu you win, lemme send you more coin for your paywall
thestringpuller: .01 gets me how many credits?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.60000, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 54078.06233830, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.78047
mircea_popescu: like 1.3k
thestringpuller: lets do un/pw this time
thestringpuller: username password
thestringpuller: instead of based on ip
truff1es: dont subscribe !
thestringpuller: don't subscribe to the NYT
thestringpuller: when you can use it as TP instead :P
mircea_popescu: a ywes. kk.
thestringpuller: what address should I send to?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2911 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so apparently mtgox is writing a new trade engine
mircea_popescu: in brainfuck.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4399 = 4.399 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: I once wrote a FORTH to Brainfuck compiler. Betcha they dug it out from the sands of time and are using it.
mircea_popescu: was it under 256 bytes ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: close to that
mircea_popescu: should fit in ram over 9000 times then
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try it yourself, it isn't hard
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu I feel as though you allude the biggest problem bitcoin faces is arrogance amongst n00bs...
thestringpuller: "I bought in at 10 dollars, now I'm rich" bullshit etc.
mircea_popescu: well not unless you expand noobs to mean everyone.
mircea_popescu: i guess arrogance is the universal problem.
thestringpuller: I would say Keiser is still a n00b.
mircea_popescu: "i'm too cool to suck cock" "i don't need to learn math" "why should i stop for red lights" etc.
thestringpuller: He just happens to have money in the bank.
thestringpuller: but people who say, "I don't need to learn math" end up coming up short when you give them money to do business.
thestringpuller: Like EVERYTIME
thestringpuller: "Oh I thought you wanted 1.40 per sale not 2 dollars"
thestringpuller: Okay maybe arrogance isn't the proper word.
thestringpuller: How about "delusional"
asciilifeform: problem is, "why should I stop for red light" is mere Darwin-food when the noob has a motorcycle. In the case of BTC, he has a trailer loaded with bricks.
mircea_popescu: well yes. the divergence between reality and representation and the complacency with the situation. source of all trouble.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then you question the wisdom of only allowing people on motorcycles until they show they drive well :D
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: I'm for the "mandatory pedestrian ram" plus "automatic liability of idiots" - method of traffic regulation.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you ever played death track ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4588 = 2.294 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: lol death track
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah. back in like 1990
thestringpuller: i didn't know they had video games in romania
mircea_popescu: we had gta, except only the cool kids with computers played it
thestringpuller: HAHAHAHAHA
thestringpuller: quote stolen
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller some forum clown
asciilifeform: is that the "Class X BTC Supernode" fellow?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu seems the billpay idea actually is working...
mircea_popescu: which one is that ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.312 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31200001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31499999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.315 = 4.095 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.31999995 = 2.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31999998 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: i'm sure that's crossed your browser at some point
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0163 = 0.163 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Update - 4/25/2013
mircea_popescu: Thank you all for checking us out. We are currently working on restructuring our payment backend to be in full compliance with all government regulations. We will be back up as soon as all our ducks are in a row.
mircea_popescu: i guess so much for it working.
thestringpuller: hahahaha
troc: v.interesting, would the coins you spend that way be liable for any taxation as a benefit in kind ?
thestringpuller: troc: wouldn't that depend on where you pay from?
thestringpuller: pay via a server in africa I wouldn't think so...
thestringpuller: WHO THE FUCK IS THIS CLOWN
thestringpuller: Riley Alexander
thestringpuller: Co - Founder, Idea Engine, Master Hand Shaker
thestringpuller: Idea Engine?
thestringpuller: MASTER HAND SHAKER?
thestringpuller: "Two-Bit Entrepreneur"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.468 = 2.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well i dunno wtf that's all about. here you can pay other people's bills
mircea_popescu: i should know.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4701 = 1.4103 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: come again mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: i don't see what regulations they would be breaking.
mircea_popescu: so i pay X's bill. sooo ?
thestringpuller: I'm just sick of bitcoin entrepreneurs
thestringpuller: it's becoming worse than YCombinator shit
thestringpuller: "Hey man I have this AWESOME idea. Girls need bra's right? LETS MAKE A WEBSITE TO GET CUSTOM BRAS"
thestringpuller: As if Victoria Secret doesn't have that market seized already...
troc: billpay : say its the mortgage, it could be a neat way to avoid capital gains on BTC no ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller but no panties.
mircea_popescu: actually there was this french brand made a fortune by selling bra and panty sets
mircea_popescu: except they had one bra and FIVE matching panties in the pack.
mircea_popescu: wish i could recall da fuck it was called.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3297 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3298 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.32999 = 13.2999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.331 = 9.317 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333334 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.337 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.32 = 8.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00302262 = 3.0226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3020 @ 0.00302263 = 9.1283 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.346 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Our model Our platform is designed to allow the trading of bitcoin for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: logical.
mircea_popescu: Who's behind it? Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms.
kakobrekla: well, dunno why is it so cryptic about it
kakobrekla: >BTC.sx is funded privately. We operate with a tier 1 total capital ratio level of 110% minimum.
kakobrekla: >Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms.
kakobrekla: who again?
mircea_popescu: his mom.
mircea_popescu: "From what I've googled, I understand that scalping helps lower spreads but ultimately, aren't you just betting upon a upward or downward price movement?"
mircea_popescu: him in 2012.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile experience happened. at the world's most successful banks
mircea_popescu: apostrophe's on me.
arij: wrong channel
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.339 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.34698 = 2.694 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 85 @ 0.35903146 = 30.5177 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3171 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00065476 = 3.6667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.0006524 = 2.1203 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 73988.0257577
gribble: Time since last block: 3 minutes and 7 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 9973647.0479 based on data since last change | 10335850.0809 based on data for last three days
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.00301 = 0.1204 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 510 @ 0.003 = 1.53 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: sooo, whats new
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 165 @ 0.01 = 1.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: there's a new bitcoin exchange
mircea_popescu: there's a new asic producer
mircea_popescu: there's a new "investment opportunity"
kakobrekla: there's a new "gtfo by mpoe-pr post"
truff1es: chat is lively today
mircea_popescu: that for sure.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: anyone got cas coins for sale, i need a few moar
mircea_popescu: ask and thou shalt recieve
kakobrekla: is the definition of who shouldnt be doing what getting broader?
mircea_popescu: how do you mean ?
kakobrekla: moar rant
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4423 @ 0.00066115 = 2.9243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4965 @ 0.00068029 = 3.3776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00069403 = 3.6784 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00069498 = 0.834 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00069884 = 5.5907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00071 = 2.4495 BTC [+]
benkay: for all the bile and hate about children building technology from MPOEPR we have no idea who makes up mircea's team
mircea_popescu: not following the chan are you :p
kakobrekla: i think i got contacted by a scammer and he is trying to sell some cas coins (and i think he doest even know what that is)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: lets have some fun
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> Who's behind it? Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms.
ThickAsThieves: kidding!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
benkay: chan's not terribly persistent or searchable
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3148 @ 0.00071 = 2.2351 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: assbot has been keeping logs for a few days now
mircea_popescu: benkay k 1 sec
kakobrekla: ill make it public soonish
kakobrekla: and searchable i guess
ThickAsThieves: I have logs for most of the past month or two
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49514 @ 0.00071 = 35.1549 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i have logs from 1 year ago but they are all fucked up
benkay: i'm trying to highlight the double standard of "no pro-grade team called out on site, where team is expected to be called out" vs the MPEx approach which is "MPEx is run by someone well versed in power dynamics and getting people to do things. trust him to select the right people to do things."
benkay: chat logs are not public declaration of team makeup.
benkay: they're chat logs.
kakobrekla: thats another issue
truff1es: oh snap
mircea_popescu: towards the end
truff1es: benkay did u miss the show and tell picture
benkay: nope
benkay: but who are those humans?
benkay: "cfo"
benkay: "lead counsel"
truff1es: i dunno who are who
truff1es: just the woman and mp
benkay: "exercise to reader"
benkay: rly?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
benkay: no names
benkay: no employment histories
truff1es: those things dont concern me lol
mircea_popescu: heh. mkay.
benkay: no demonstrations of past success.
mircea_popescu: martha is already named there. she's named on the domain registratiosn too.
mircea_popescu: for instance.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the famous court proceedings where i beat back the romanian govt had been amply linked but i guess you never saw that.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: guy's name is florin cristescu, it's all over that.
truff1es: trades should be concerned about separation of funds and profits imo
benkay: have not, not.
mircea_popescu: in other words : none of this is a secret, it's known by people who care to know as it were.
benkay: but if I say, 'dear mircea_popescu, where would I go to learn about the amazing team you've assembled to run your business?' your answer is 'do some research, child'
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002753 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you do see why dominant position would ensure one such luxury
benkay: which induces a bit of culture shock, in that i generally expect people to be proud of the team they work with, and eager to show that they're above board and real grownups etc.
benkay: oh of course
mircea_popescu: whereas being an upstart would not ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: after all, i'm not proving myself to random unknown noob on the forum
mircea_popescu: he is proving himself to me.
mircea_popescu: trust is this directional affair.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I just sold some panties for 1 bitcoin
mircea_popescu: if he doesn't trust me that's pretty much of no import. if i don't trust him that's a serious impairment on his future.
thestringpuller: we should drop this exchange nonsense and get into the lingerie business yo
truff1es: used panties?
kakobrekla: hm panties4btc
benkay: I guess I'm just bemused by the difference in approach towards image in your area.
benkay: "but i lols so powerful image is nothing"
mircea_popescu: i don't follow benkay ?
benkay: big American companies are obsessed with image.
benkay: big American investors are obsessed with image.
benkay: transparency, etc.
FabianB: image != transparency
mircea_popescu: yeah i thin kthere's some conflation at work here.
benkay: image = f(transparency and other shit)
mircea_popescu: not really, no. but anyway. it isn't/never was a matter of "do some research child". in the sense that i answered if asked, but in general stuff is known.
benkay: so returning to culture shock, I'm accustomed to things being indexed instead of known
mircea_popescu: hey, it's btc you know ?
mircea_popescu: i'm giving a slightly different approach a go.
benkay: and you're endeavoring to write new rules, I get it.
mircea_popescu: well at least make some motherfucking sense
ThickAsThieves: benkay, i suspect mp's people would prefer their privacy over "image"
ThickAsThieves: i know i would
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves some care more than others.
mircea_popescu: it's an issue here, i mean : for years the ONLY way you could get anyone with any sort of license to even consider bitcoin
mircea_popescu: is if you swore on dead saints you will never release their name
benkay: so this veers into philosophy and prognostication, but how much longer can anyone expect any information to remain unindexed?
mircea_popescu: this because being a financial professional is highly regulated, they'd have to get an ok from their compliance officer,
mircea_popescu: which would never happen etc.
benkay: consider bitcoin what?
mircea_popescu: benkay indefinitely in principle. unless something happens to show me the model is fundamentally flawed, i think it will carry on forever.
mircea_popescu: benkay consider bitcoin. in their head.
benkay: but if you hire them and their compliance officer?did you contract with existing financial firms to do accounting and backoffice etc?
benkay: also I hate asking questions that have been answered already. aversion to repetition and all that.
mircea_popescu: no listen. the year is 2011. i get excited about this new btc thing. i know what it needs to have a chance. i know i need help. i know whose help i need.
mircea_popescu: i talk to these people. well... they can't get involved.
mircea_popescu: so what now /
benkay: why can't they get involved? risking their licensure?
truff1es: its 2013
mircea_popescu: do you know how this profession is organised ?
benkay: in the us? to an extent. in romania? no clue.
benkay: and which profession?
ThickAsThieves: I'm not sure why eother of you think this conversation will go anywhere
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves naivite.
benkay: mp knows i'm actually trying to learn stuff
mircea_popescu: benkay basically, it's a team of people with various types of licenses, a boss, a compliance officer and some more sdupport roles.
mircea_popescu: the rule - simplified - is that nobody can get involved into ANYTHING related to their day job even vaguely
mircea_popescu: w/o clearing it with the compliance officer.
mircea_popescu: this includes things like giving interviews even.
benkay: got it. so everyone's doing this as a side job?
mircea_popescu: people (actual people in this chan) have been sacked for nonsense like, telling a reporter they make a lot of money and are living the life.
truff1es: that would suck
mircea_popescu: now. the compliance officer is NEVER going to ok something like "bitcoin". because he only ok's on positive factual knowledge it's ok.
mircea_popescu: so if it's dubious, then it's not gettiong ok.
mircea_popescu: so, to round this up : for all the bullshit "we're getting ws involved" coming out of purely puff style start-ups like coin-whatever,
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ws people were involved since 2011/early 2012, in the only way they could be.
mircea_popescu: which is, secretly.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.269 = 19.035 BTC [-]
benkay: that makes a startling amount of sense.
mircea_popescu: that's as to why you will likely never know who's on my short list of people i talk to / scream at / with on macroeconomic topics, finance etc.
mircea_popescu: now, the coders are often uninterested in talking to the public.
mircea_popescu: other than that, some people don't care, which is why you get the names/mugs of some people.
benkay: and you anticipate maintaining the privacy wall indefinitely?
mircea_popescu: 0/1/infinity is the rule
benkay: hah
mircea_popescu: since i'm doing it it's not 0. unless some sort of obvious 1 hits me over the head
mircea_popescu: it's infinity.
ThickAsThieves: so at this get together, did some people not tell others who they were?
ThickAsThieves: or do all involved know eachother's identity
mircea_popescu: some people met in person lol. some haven't. each his cup of tea
benkay: 0 information leakage is a secret kept by 1 person. some information leakage happens when more than 1 person knows stuff. eventually, all information will leak. infinity?
ThickAsThieves: its obv much cooler if some attendees used fake names
mircea_popescu: ya, eventually all information will leak which is why you know who killed kennedy or w/e
benkay: hm.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2681 BTC [-]
benkay: that's more of a signal to noise claim, sir.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.268 = 2.536 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: just making the point that information will leak is this proposition of statistics
mircea_popescu: it may be true, but it may not help you.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2671 BTC [-]
benkay: oh granted
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.267 = 8.869 BTC [-]
benkay: but there's lots of noise in the market and some traders manage to beat the mean year after year
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well other than that i was answering the q of how long im doing something
mircea_popescu: not how long it works
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-]
ezdiy: mircea_popescu: what about information which leaks once its harmless?
ezdiy: to lump it all together does not seem right
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.251 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: it's amazing how this conversation gets more and more interesting
ezdiy: (but the statistics holds indeed)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves you just fucked it up
truff1es: yep wasnt even me
ThickAsThieves: any time
ThickAsThieves: but really, it started as benkay asking what give mpoe-pr/mpex/mp the right to question others experience, and turned into, i dunno
benkay: no not question
benkay: everyone has the right to question
truff1es: i thought he wanted to know their level of experience or image..
benkay: expressed shock at attitude of "who are you" when we know, like, MP
ThickAsThieves: sometimes my words mean more than what the dictionarys defines them as
kakobrekla: i think that means using it wrong
ThickAsThieves: i prefer "creatively"
truff1es: creatively failing
truff1es: benkay good chat
truff1es: even though it made mp look less of an ass to me, still gonna throw in my jabs
benkay: success in comms is expressing things in a way that everyone understands
benkay: failure in comms is ambiguity
ThickAsThieves: did realize what i said was so confusing...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: do you have steam?
thestringpuller: I'ma buy you the GTA complete pack
Scrat: boring conversation
truff1es: did not expect that at all
Scrat: (sfw)
truff1es: if u linked it in -nsfw maybe expected
Scrat: I used to work close to the beach, would be sfw then
truff1es: not very many people fit into that, lifeguard?
Scrat: sadly no
jurov: folks, if there is anyone still interested in MPOE bonds passthrough or has workable ideas,
jurov: We have one month hiatus to come up with something.
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 73971.4334572
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 378.21006095 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 75 satoshi per share
benkay: wowee
jurov: ooooook
mircea_popescu: that's it, one full year of dividends ftw.
jurov: ;;calc 37821006095/500000000
gribble: 75.64201219
jurov: why my fkn code insists on 39 satoshi?
mircea_popescu: jurov maybe an idea is to get a limited hedging involved.
mircea_popescu: as in, buy some options on the same package as the bond. maybe everyone buying shares gets to vote which way to go, calls or puts
mircea_popescu: course all this is becoming rather complicated.
jurov: and then vote when they should be sold/exercised.. yeah
jurov: (that was ironic yeah)
mircea_popescu: yeah i know...
ThickAsThieves: I wanted to do an options fund, but current pricing makes it seem like it'd most likely be a loser as well
jurov: i had some preliminary idea with smickles to have alternative bot
jurov: that could also hedge per option sold
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well listen you can't BOTH be losers.
jurov: but he's not around anymore
mircea_popescu: i am suspecting the bot is exactly right because everyone agrees price is making them lose money
ThickAsThieves: bot is def playing it smarter
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2551 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but opportunity for profit for both bond holders and option buyers has been very minimized
mircea_popescu: no but let's run a model here. so, 1k btc bond.
mircea_popescu: if past data is any indication, say a 200% upswing or 60% downswing causes losses of about 25%
mircea_popescu: so then you need calls that will make 250 btc if price goes up 3x
mircea_popescu: and puts that make 250 btc if price goes down 60%
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.10000, Best ask: 132.39998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29998, Last trade: 132.40000, 24 hour volume: 29432.97051216, 24 hour low: 126.01101, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 132.09045
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 132*3
gribble: 396
mircea_popescu: O.USD.C302T for instance will make about .25 each if price goes there. so you need 100 these
ThickAsThieves: *could* happen...
mircea_popescu: i mean 1000 these
mircea_popescu: so they cost like 70 btc.
mircea_popescu: the call side cost to hedge the bond is then 7%
tiberiusiv: shut up mircea
mircea_popescu: (if these numbers are worth a shit at all)
tiberiusiv: youve lost enough bitcoins for people
tiberiusiv: nobody is going to lend your shitty bond fund more $
tiberiusiv: the options emporium will be dead within 2-3 more months
tiberiusiv: who is stupid enough to continue insuring against bitcoin price volatility
ThickAsThieves: problem is, the price is more likely to move maybe 50% upward, or 25% downward this month (very roughly speaking)
tiberiusiv: no shit
Scrat: lol ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so then sell short puts/calls
mircea_popescu: that'll make you money in that scenario
ThickAsThieves: i'm not interested in creating options
ThickAsThieves: too much risk ;)
ThickAsThieves: i want easy money obv
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26502 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ya well, sometimes those curves meet
mircea_popescu: fear, greed, cleverness
KRS-1: thickasthieves what a good buy point ya think
KRS-1: i cashed out at $147 for the most part
ThickAsThieves: isnt that kinda q what bitc-anal channel is for?
ThickAsThieves: but to answer your question, i have bids lined up incrementally from 126ish downward
mircea_popescu: “Birchbox requested 300,000 units of a product for free; in return, they said that could offer a conservative purchase order of 400 units for that product if it was received well by their sampling audience.” Birchbox also requested a special sample size, which Ms. Chan would need to create, that would yield at least 3 uses of the product. After Ms. Chan negotiated with them, they lowered the amount of requested fre
mircea_popescu: e product to 75,000 and then to 50,000 units (for a more targeted customer base). Birchbox only wanted to pay for a purchase order of 400 units after receiving 50,000 units for free.
mircea_popescu: lmao. basically people think cheek equals business nao
KRS-1: Mircea is the owner and master of #bitcoin-anal, if he can find it in his good will, I would not mind being Curator of all culture anal that is also bitcoin.
KRS-1: Ya thanks for your insight, thats where I was but I pulled down to $110-$105 and $100 when I saw the rising wedge pattern.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wait what ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you need a better forum avatar.
Scrat: me too
Scrat: too furry for my taste
mircea_popescu: crop that for instance.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.32 = 2.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 59 @ 0.0163 = 0.9617 BTC [+]
KRS-1: I'd hit that
KRS-1: not my taste but damn
benkay: "big girls need love too"
jurov: lol i meant to have serious word with mpex staff, but was under impression they are not there
jurov: now i'm reading i sat practically next to the cto, martha
jurov: plus got blindsided by teh lawyer "we dun do english, it's unlike romanian"
mircea_popescu: jurov lol. he's not very english friendly
mircea_popescu: anyway, girl next to the lawyer is the cfo
mircea_popescu: money girl.
jurov: "and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto" << so you accidentally a letter
jurov: oh there are wo women
ThickAsThieves: but who took the photos
ThickAsThieves: a slave?
jurov: ThickAsThieves: they have waitresses in romania, ya know
jurov: okay, nevermind
jurov: the lawyer was actually trying to do something in english. but then i mentioned german,and *then* he got derpy
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1999 = 0.9995 BTC [+]
jurov: so i should prolly learn french, italian, romanian, or gypsy or whatever to be able to talk to mpex lawyer...
jurov: mircea, tell him "te šukar čhavo" from me
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.17 = 1.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30839 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: what do you need romanian lawyer for anyway ?
jurov: just in case
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0165 = 0.0825 BTC [+]
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 50
gribble: There are currently 161956.19 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14094287.1966 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0093 seconds
mircea_popescu: jurov actually when i paid on saturday i left a tip saying "and this is for excellent photographic services" poiting at the little cute girl that took pics
mircea_popescu: and she got all blushed up
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 200
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.8877 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 200
gribble: There are currently 77298.99 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 12819857.1188 USD in total. | Data vintage: 22.0946 seconds
tiberiusiv: ;;asks 150
gribble: There are currently 20345.892 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 2904644.02498 USD in total. | Data vintage: 28.8253 seconds
mircea_popescu: this after me asking her if she knows about picture taking which i think she misunderstood as being asked whether she;'d like to pose for us
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 120
gribble: There are currently 29728.823 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 3697689.88514 USD in total. | Data vintage: 37.0461 seconds
jurov: ^^^ ThickAsThieves, you see: no slavery involved
FabianB: jurov: so you're the one in dark clothes in front of mp?
jurov: no, mpoe-pr's knee points to me
ThickAsThieves: goatee and glasses?
ThickAsThieves: you look a LOT like my brother
jurov: no thanks. i have a doppelganger in my neighborhood already
jurov: actually i was waiting on a bus stop and got greeted "hi thomas.. uh.. it's you?"
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long it takes till everyone is identified
jurov: obv i never noticed him myself... prolly am not looking into mirror often enough
mircea_popescu: talking about benkay's eternal secrecy.
benkay: wat
mircea_popescu: apparently even posting pics takes > 1 week and even so it's mostly selfouting
benkay: watman
mircea_popescu: benkay conspiraci!
benkay: i hold that eternal secrecy is extremely difficult to enforce
benkay: but you have an edge in scale of conspiracy :)
benkay: big banks rig all of the things and it takes years for the proles to figure it out
benkay: but that's because proles
benkay: time to go bask in sun with wimmins
benkay: and dogs
benkay: later all
mircea_popescu: take pics
mircea_popescu: then we identify the dogs.
benkay: har
jurov: also, pigeons was there:
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3079 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3084 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it would be fun to know which forum personalities were there and guess who was who
ThickAsThieves: i actually had guessed ccorrectly which was jurov
jurov: from the pigeons photo? congrats
ThickAsThieves: forum/irc
ThickAsThieves: no from the dinner photos
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i need a better avatar??
kakobrekla: whats wrong with this one
mircea_popescu: well wtf is it
kakobrekla: seriously?
mircea_popescu: well not that seriously :D
kakobrekla: its from space odyssey 2001
kakobrekla: i just really like clarke
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00070741 = 24.0873 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: lol bitstamp, email response after 12 days.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 240 @ 0.31992958 = 76.7831 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: they are acting all goxxy and shit
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3146 BTC [+]
KRS-1: looks like we heading down son
mircea_popescu: lmao insanely bleak advice
KRS-1: i mean up
KRS-1: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 133.51485, Best ask: 134.26987, Bid-ask spread: 0.75502, Last trade: 133.51484, 24 hour volume: 27266.58910626, 24 hour low: 126.51000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 132.73170
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C170N] 24 @ 0.41105585 = 9.8653 BTC
mircea_popescu: !t m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.96737151 / 213.47292862 / 218.28703767 (419 shares, 115.18 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: well if you believe the oix...
KRS-1: and down i dont mean by a lot, its been $135/$136 I mean down by $132/$130 maybe
KRS-1: im just looking at what i can see from orders
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.000714 = 3.57 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 921 @ 0.00071424 = 0.6578 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00071432 = 1.2708 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 82000 @ 0.00175 = 143.5 BTC [+]
truff1es: <kakobrekla> http://imgur.com/WxnxWDU >>> good times
truff1es: http://imgur.com/r/WTF/IopePxm that one is just too much, how can he not notice!
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 120
gribble: There are currently 28426.554 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 3530329.68514 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0108 seconds
dub: HOLD ON
mircea_popescu: SoulKhan do i know you from twitter ?
dub: you know him from the streets
dub: and your jew rap roots
SoulKhan: serving up those lyrical treats :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-]
jurov: kakobrekla, you fiddling with modes again? ThickAsThieves can't go in
jurov: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
ezdiy: jurov: romstina je neco jako stredoevropsky esperanto :)
jurov: a cestina svetovy jazyk :)
mircea_popescu: well why doesn't he register!
mircea_popescu: it's good for health
mjr___: hi all
jurov: mjr_ hi. have you seen latest reptilia's microeconomics lesson?
jurov: it caused me giggling attacks for several hours
peterl: hi mjr___
peterl: what did reprillia do?
mircea_popescu: jurov link ?
jurov: his burn rate computations
jurov: lemme aim...
jurov: whatever, just read it wohle carefully. seems everyone finds some different kind of utter ridiculousness there
jurov: I was operating at a peak $200k per month burnrate at that moment, so just out of curiosity I calculated, how large a stash of bitcoins would be needed, to keep up such a spending permanently.
mircea_popescu: we already had a round earlier, when he was inviting me goat and satoshi
ThickAsThieves: never had this ident problem before, if there's someone that can pm me to help set up mu mIRC properly, it'd be appreciated
jurov: yes, but i don't see anything about this burn rate theory
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you seem id'd now
kakobrekla: I have currently increased the size of my organisation, and reserved some prime resources (such as the most expensive by far hotel suite in Finland) for my exclusive use. My burn rate is currently about $200,000 per month if I continue at this level. It may sound like much, but measured hourly, it is a more understandable $278 (about 2,000mBTC). Since most of the resources are contracted at a daily rate (such as the hotel) or even hourly (
kakobrekla: what more do you want
kakobrekla: did it got cut?
ThickAsThieves: i thought i had it all in my settings already, but now i also need to know how to change my pass
ThickAsThieves: which doesnt seem to be in the options
kakobrekla: (most of the staff, taxi, etc.), I can adjust the burn rate in quick order if need be. I plan on spending at this rate until midnight (8.5 more hours), and keep the room till noon, tomorrow. After that my organisation will be readjusted at about $25 per hour (about 200mBTC).
jurov: yes. this should be teached in personal finance classes
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla roflmao
mjr___: lol, who is this guy?
mircea_popescu: mjr___ seems you're not on his invite list.
jurov: oh, and i forgot... shall we conspire to put ganjix on hisinvite list somehow?
jurov: maybe we can concoct something with wao
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mircea_popescu: jurov the part where he goes "I purposely omitted people not in this forum from the list." but then invites me is pretty cool.
jurov: also, phinnaeus and atlas would be prudent to have
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mircea_popescu: well then go for maria too
asciilifeform: can somebody enlighten me re: what's interesting about the rpietila clown? is there proof that even one of the things he's claimed is true?
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kakobrekla: theres proof on facebook.
wao: hm?
asciilifeform: and has anyone checked the EXIF strings in his photos for interesting tidbits?
jurov: asciilifeform, it's not whether it is true, it's the epic ridiculousness of all and every detail
asciilifeform: to my untrained eye, he seems like a comedian trying to spoof MP
truff1es: sounds like you want to stalk him
mircea_popescu: why does everyone think he;'s trying to spoof me ?
asciilifeform: truffles: I don't believe the man exists as described
mircea_popescu: why not maxkeiser ? why not mega ?
mircea_popescu: why not whoever other bitcoin jezuz
truff1es: why couldnt he?
mircea_popescu: also : he deleted his post going "here is proof that at least 3 women attended" ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the "BTC vampire billionaire" image
mircea_popescu: (of which one's the mother of the other two by the sour mouth)
asciilifeform: somebody intends to test the "pound of image is worth an once of performance" hypothesis
asciilifeform: *damn, reversed
jurov: lol
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that one ever worked in practice ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the bulk of the U.S. economy?
mircea_popescu: lol i am defeated
mjr___: hahaha
mircea_popescu: "We had the study of the hotel room dedicated to our dealing desk, which included precision scales, and storage containers for all kinds of valuables. EUR 50 (and below) notes will be weighted as well as the gold and silver, 100-500 notes are counted."
mircea_popescu: lmao what the fucking hell
mircea_popescu: The trading desk with computers and monitors was in the main bedroom, which was in rontus' command. I don't remember if we traded any, though.
jurov: there are tupperware containers with cash mentioned earlier
mircea_popescu: ok, i have just the thing for thisd
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ThickAsThieves: ok i'm registered for real for real now, thank you jurov
kakobrekla: i dont understand what are they singing
jurov: and i miss cash flying in air
kakobrekla: they gonna fuck that dude with a bannana?
mircea_popescu: you wish. perv.
mircea_popescu: anyway, he's an ex garbage entrepreneur
mircea_popescu: who sold his biz and wanted to start a stardom career.
mircea_popescu: that was pretty much his only vid.
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: garbage entrepreneur? literally, like V. Putin?
mircea_popescu: literally as in he ran the city dump
mircea_popescu: in whatever small town
jurov: ganjix v2.0
jurov: can't believe aljazeera fell for his charms, too :DDD
mjr___: omg
mjr___: lol
mjr___: ugh, how did amir taaki get back in the spotlight?
kakobrekla: how could one forget him?
mjr___: and their text at the bottom is pretty wrong
mjr___: the creators and users of bitcoin are always anonymous
mjr___: my name is Josh Rossi and I use bitcoins...pretty easy to disprove
kakobrekla: "techology like bitcoin is like hospitals"
kakobrekla: i think that sums it up
mjr___: yeah
mjr___: we have charts graphs
mjr___: LOLZ
kakobrekla: we also have skateboards
mjr___: hahaha
mjr___: i'm not sure if he understands
kakobrekla: lol they blacklisted him
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kakobrekla: "bank closed my accounts" ...
mjr___: yeah
kakobrekla: good to say to attract new users
mjr___: i mean, the govt can tax bitcoin, bitcoin doesn't make tax impossible
mjr___: stateless; therefore cannot be taxed or frozen
mjr___: retarded...
ThickAsThieves: surprised they would take amir seriously, another embarassing bitcoin vid...
asciilifeform: mjr___: govt could proclaim a tax on taking a shit if it wanted to. collecting is another matter.
kakobrekla: this is getting worse and worse
mjr___: when everyone is sharing....
kakobrekla: srsly this and tux
kakobrekla: sell all your coins now!
ThickAsThieves: he has pimple juice on his hoodie
kakobrekla: fuck fuck
mjr___: did he just say let's bring money laundering to the common people
mjr___: wtf
kakobrekla: he is so fucked
error4733: what the name in english when you take acid and stay in your trip
jurov: will someone do a transcription? i don't understand him in person, not even on tube
kakobrekla: hopefuly its not available in html5 and mp will do it
mjr___: bitcoins website getting hacked LOL
mjr___: where is this website?
mjr___: if only there was a way to use escrow's with bitcoin LOL
mjr___: its like these people don't have computers or dont know how to use google
mjr___: when bitcoin was hacked on wednesday LOLZ
mircea_popescu: wtf is this
mjr___: OMG
mircea_popescu: is he 12 ?
kakobrekla: yes this is dog.
mjr___: its not a fucking utopian dream
KRS-1: "bitcoin" was hacked wednesday?
mjr___: its just a free market
mjr___: what about people who can't read source code
mjr___: i have to say, for all its tons of misinformation, they actually seem like they want to understand
mjr___: just need a smarter person explaining it
kakobrekla: at least the hugo guy is making some sense
asciilifeform: mjr___: what about people who can't... read. evil discrimination11!1, etc
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 i will gladly hack bitcoin on wednesday for a hamburger today.
KRS-1: usually i charge a bj but a burger will do on a sunday
KRS-1: wtf is that thing on taaki's head
kakobrekla: he missed a spot shaving
mircea_popescu: such a chav,
mircea_popescu: aaanyway.
KRS-1: lol
mircea_popescu: @DRUDGE_REPORT 30m SHOCK POLL: Americans fear government more than terror.
mircea_popescu: what's so shocking about that.
KRS-1: oh wow that was a popeye reference..woa..long time
KRS-1: yeah, people here in the states are very reprehensive about our government. I heard that our Homeland Security department has been hording up ammunition..makes you wonder why them?
mircea_popescu: took you a minute.
dub: someone please shoot amir in th eface
KRS-1: How are things in Romania? I have been thinking of an exit strategy for years. Germany keeps coming to mind.
dub: do it now
dub: I want him to die
ThickAsThieves: but gutterpunks are so charming
ThickAsThieves: i feel wrong judging him superficially, but it's not like his words helped
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 i'd say things are okay in romania.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves don't worry, we've been judging him unsuperficially for years.
mircea_popescu: it's just that in some cases what's deep down is equal with what's skin deep
mircea_popescu: mostly because there's nothing there.
mircea_popescu: (Pls somebody sell us more Goxmoney, we are out, we can pay intl wire in 2 days, spot-3%!!)
KRS-1: From what I understand gazpacho is more or less the national soup of Romania. Is this true?
mircea_popescu: wait, so the great supernode is out of cash burnrate of 200k a year for the next 8.5 hours ?
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 perfectly untrue.
KRS-1: Amazing the strange views we have of other countries.
mircea_popescu: there's tripe soup, a chicken and homemade noodle-like thing soup and others that are popular.
mircea_popescu: gazpacho is spanish
KRS-1: oh thought that was russian
KRS-1: I just read the wiki on Romanian cuisine, I think the only thing I would like is the plum brandy.
mircea_popescu: haha. yeah, people liked it.
KRS-1: Eggplant is ok
mircea_popescu: trust me, you'll like anything.
KRS-1: Hmm..probably, it just sounds so different than whatever I've been used to eating. I have a pretty open mind approaching different cuisines. The only one I could never like is Indian food.
KRS-1: I'd definately do well in Japan- I love sushi/sashimi, although they eat some pretty weird stuff over there. If I ever have to leave the U.S.A., Japan is on the radar for me also.
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KRS-1: Plus the young girls there have the Hello Kitty thing going on over there, so cute.
mircea_popescu: once you leave the us you suddenly discover what soert of shit you;'ve been eating
KRS-1: lol probably..as the years go on, I notice the food has gotten much worse. Many consider us the "bread basket" of the world too..eh.
KRS-1: Our "fast food" is the worst.
mircea_popescu: yeah it's pretty bad.
mircea_popescu: and yeah i imagine it;'s getting worse.
orkaa: at least you have fastfood
KRS-1: From what I understand lately they inject beef with dyes to appear red, not only that our livestock is cloned and drugged with all kinds of chemicals..you can actually taste the difference between real meat.
KRS-1: It doesnt even cook right.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eating shit is a strictly-voluntary business, even in the U.S. - at least, right now.
orkaa: if i went out this moment, i would only have 2 options
orkaa: burek and kebab
orkaa: ok, and pizza slices
KRS-1: Where are you orkaa?
KRS-1: I could live on Pizza
orkaa: ljubljana, slovenia
kakobrekla: somalia
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not if you've never been out and dunno what food is.
KRS-1: Slovenia is NOT Somalia
dub: nobody considers america the bread basket of the world
KRS-1: right?
kakobrekla: not sure
KRS-1: lol
mircea_popescu: somalia has better food, slovenia better looking women
KRS-1: sorry- you are right, "its been said" that America is the bread basket of N. America
mircea_popescu: this because starvation after the age of 12 or so is actually beneficial.
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KRS-1: So, if I were to flee 1) Germany 2) Japan 3) Australia? Any other suggestions or does this seem like a pretty decent list?
kakobrekla: 1 2 and 3 are all bad
KRS-1: damn
KRS-1: my view of the world is fsked
orkaa: germany is ok if you pick berlin
dub: yes, terrible choices
ThickAsThieves: i'd like to visit switzerland
KRS-1: seriously..in terms of national security and prosperity?
asciilifeform: KRS-1: it makes a difference exactly what you're running away from.
dub: australia is probably the best of that lot
dub: but populated entirely by criminals
troc: what would you be fleeing from ? or do you mean emigrate ?
orkaa: dub, i'd rather pick germany
mircea_popescu: ya srlsy.
mircea_popescu: you must go to finland and stay in the supernode
orkaa: finland has no sun
mircea_popescu: it doesn't need it
mircea_popescu: it has a burn rate.
KRS-1: lately there is a growing fear that we're in serious debt to China and they are asking that civilians be disarmed. Our Homeland Security department is hording ammunition (Who in the hell are they going to use it against except us?).. Much doubt about our currency..security..
dub: germany has germans which are only tolerable in small doses
KRS-1: I think we've become the fat pig that can't even breathe under our own weight.
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 just go travelling about the world, see where you like it.
dub: japan is just completely fucked
mircea_popescu: dub the problem is the germanettes. more like manatees
KRS-1: mp: Thats good advice..hmm.
mjr___: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/04/20134572639241668.html
mjr___: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/04/20134572639241668.html#comment-878882931
mjr___: there is my comment
mjr___: why are people so retarded?
mjr___: Australia looks like a great place to live nowadays
mjr___: saw the best comparison of their gun control vs ours
mjr___: people have to be willfully ignorant to not see that you CAN make people safer
KRS-1: mjr: thats what i understand
KRS-1: I dont want to give up my firearms though
KRS-1: I have some nice weapons.
KRS-1: My fav is the Ruger SP-101 .357 Magnum
kakobrekla: i thought all you need to do is ban violent games
asciilifeform: I never understood why people brag about their boomsticks on the Net. Why would you want to shout for a priority seat in the gasenwagen?
dub: A really excellent discussion of bitcoin. Amir is an articulate, passionate advocate...
dub: what the everloving fuck
mjr___: LOL
dub: comment below yours
mjr___: i know i saw it
mjr___: hilarious
mjr___: how did that woman know amir's name? he's anonymous obvs
mircea_popescu: ajhahaha
mircea_popescu: ok, best line of the day.
mjr___: YAY
mjr___: srsly, retards
mircea_popescu: "how did that woman know amir's name? he's anonymous obviously!"
mircea_popescu: bweahaha
mjr___: how could they write that? did no one say, "wait, i know his name!"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other-retard-venue (ie http://www.cnbc.com/id/100675118 )
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin likely has a long way to go before regulators step in and start controlling the market, and once it does get there it may not be for the right reasons. "
mircea_popescu: right. because it's clear and established that anyone gives a shit about "Regulators"
mircea_popescu: and they speak english rathert tyhan chinese
mircea_popescu: and so forth.
mjr___: lolz
mjr___: i'm glad that their stupidity has crystalized my new heuristic
mjr___: whatever you are about to say, replace "bitcoin" with "dollar", do you sound retarded? If yes, don't say what you were about to say
mjr___: where is the website for the US Dollar?
mjr___: has the dollar been hacked?
mjr___: people use dollars for illegal transactions
mircea_popescu: yes. once done with that, replace bitcoin with math
mjr___: also good
mircea_popescu: then, "naked teenager chicks"
mircea_popescu: then, dodd frank
mircea_popescu: if it passes all these tests you may say it.
mjr___: hahaha
mjr___: that may be too advanced for them
mircea_popescu: has dodd frank hacked the math yet ?
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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you should invest in YCombinator
thestringpuller: give Paul Graham some mo ney
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu mircea_popescu mircea_popescu
thestringpuller: dub dub dub wub wub wub
thestringpuller: wub wub wub wub dub dub dub
thestringpuller: dub step
KRS-1: mp: wait what
KRS-1: naked teenager chicks..
KRS-1: you have that in Romania no
KRS-1: do you like skrillex? my fav song is voltage
truff1es: i cant find the soundtrack of this series
mjr___: i heard some skrillex at "heaven" in romania :)
truff1es: its like they dont want to make money off the soundtrack :(
kakobrekla: if heaven has asses like dat, imma go baptize myself rite nao
dub: thestringpuller: wtf
dub: that is the second time in 48 hours I've been highlighted with almost the same string
thestringpuller: dub wub dub wub dub wub dub
thestringpuller: you need a business partner with the handle wub
thestringpuller: FOR MY AMUSEMENT!
dub: has dubstep just landed in murica or something?
kakobrekla: take a chill pill thestringpuller
thestringpuller: it's what all the cool kids listen to
thestringpuller: I like to make fun of it
truff1es: dub step sure takes an appreciation
dub: the rest of the world has already relegated it to the tradpit
dub: tardpit
dub: its normal for the cool kids in murica to lag behind by a few years
mircea_popescu: whats skrillex ?
kakobrekla: dunno, some song or artist id guess
dub: skrillex is approx the worst music producer of all time
truff1es: haters gonna hate
KRS-1: skrillex is like the godfather of dubstep although some would dispute that
dub: he is nothing like that
KRS-1: no?
dub: no
mircea_popescu: dub knows his step
KRS-1: this is my fav song by skrillex- the video is kind of moving too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbsus0o0Muk
truff1es: SKRILLEX - Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites in enjoy that one
KRS-1: dub: what would you say skrillex is to dubstep then?
mjr___: lol, skrillex is in no way whatsoever the godfather of dubstep
mjr___: 'he is an artist producing dubstep music
dub: skrillex scooped up the turd that the godfathers of dubstep left behind when they woke up from teh ketamine hole they had been in when they came up with it
mjr___: you could also say, one of the most popular current dubstep artists
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KRS-1: my bad then..thanks for letting me know. I'll have to read up a bit
KRS-1: at any rate he produces some badass music
dub: s/ass//
mjr___: ugh, the #bitcoin-nyc channel is already created
KRS-1: mjr: most popular thats probably what I should have said
mjr___: the fact that no one is in it, sucks
mjr___: i would like to use that chan, but i want to moderate...
mircea_popescu: mjr___ nyc is kind of marginal i guess :D
mjr___: #bitcoin-timisoara ?
mircea_popescu: you can prolly moderate that
dub: KRS-1: like most music fads its popularity is a wedge
mjr___: i was going to use it for listing trades at the open air exchange
orkaa: this is one of the old tunes
mjr___: also thinking about maybe a twitter feed
kakobrekla: what open air exchage
KRS-1: Skrillex- Bangarang and Kyoto are imo the other best songs he did
mjr___: i plan on going to union square park
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he wants to trade gypsies for moonshine
mjr___: and market making
truff1es: <KRS-1> voltage pretty cool too, nostalgia..
KRS-1: dub: yes and I'm thankful for the addition to our modern music..some of it is pretty good actually.
dub: how can you call somethign that is two weeks old nostalgic
mjr___: i figure, if everyone knows that between 4pm and 6pm monday through friday, you can buy or sell bitcoins at one location
KRS-1: dub: it might be two weeks old to you =) its been around
mjr___: it will bring liquidity to the market
mjr___: what do you guys think?
KRS-1: that fat dude in the bangarang video is a trip
KRS-1: mjr: not a bad idea at all
KRS-1: U might be onto something
kakobrekla: mjr___ local bitcoins?
mjr___: i will set the spread
kakobrekla: dot com
mjr___: localbitcoins is nice
mjr___: i used it
mjr___: but the problem is that you have to coordinate times
mjr___: and locations
mjr___: which can be a pain
mjr___: i have a few other people who want to hang out in the park and trade and set markets
dub: dubstep is the retarded cousin of dnb
mjr___: it sounds like someone is torturing computers...and i like it
mjr___: mircea_popescu: what do you think of this idea?
dub: it was concieved purely to make terrible dj's look better and so fat people won't look as out of place ont he dancefloow
truff1es: <dub> how can you call somethign that is two weeks old nostalgic >>> the feeling you get when you hear a really cool song
mircea_popescu: i think it sound s a lot like how gay subculture got started :D
mjr___: well...that seems to have taken off pretty well, not a bad model
mjr___: bitcoin eye for the straight guy
mjr___: i can live with that
mircea_popescu: anyway. grand central station.
kakobrekla: watch out that you dont get robbed
mjr___: you think grand central is better?
mjr___: yes, that is why i would be in the park
mjr___: police officers
mjr___: probably a webcam of union square park
mircea_popescu: i just thought it's much quicker.
mjr___: its my favorite area of NYC, and my office is a block away
mjr___: not to mention the weather is going to be great
mjr___: i figure i can make a decent amount of cash just market making
mjr___: and by cash i mean bitcoins
orkaa: parks are great for buying drugs so bitcoin should work too.. :)
mircea_popescu: can't hurt.
mjr___: union square can be tough for buying drugs
mjr___: in fact, most people just call their dealers...hard to find a vendor with a location LOL
mjr___: i was brokering a $20,000 bitcoin buy today
mjr___: hard to get coins quick
kakobrekla: where did you buy
mjr___: some guy is buying 10,000 chips from avalon
mjr___: and needs like 150 btc for his portion
mjr___: locally
mjr___: i didn't buy
mjr___: i just brokered
mjr___: deal isn't done yet
mjr___: but he paid like 148 per
mjr___: or around there
mjr___: think he needs another 50 coins tomorrow
mjr___: so, and this is pretty hilarious, i'm gonna sell yifu's coins to him, so he can pay yifu
mjr___: finally starting to get a good bitcoin sub-culture in nyc
tiberiusiv: ;;bids 120
gribble: There are currently 28719.462 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 3571691.25347 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
mjr___: there are like almost 100 people in the facebook group bitcoinnyc
mjr___: and i hung out at EVR last night
kakobrekla: nice mjr___, must be all cognac and cigars over there
mjr___: charlie shrem's spot where they accept bitcoins
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mjr___: lol, just jameson for me
mjr___: and cigarettes lol
tiberiusiv: well you are poor
mjr___: i'm more of a jameson and cigarettes guy than a cognac and cigars guy
tiberiusiv: surprised you were even allowed in
Diablo-D3: [08:37:32] <mjr___> some guy is buying 10,000 chips from avalon
dub: nothign wrong with jameson
dub: for cooking etc
Diablo-D3: thats HOW many ghash?
mjr___: hmmm
mjr___: think its 282 mh per chip
mjr___: 10,000 is the minimum to buy
mjr___: and i think they've sold quite a few batches
mjr___: diff futures?
dub: seems like it
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 10000 * 282 / 1000 / 1000
gribble: 2.82
Diablo-D3: 2.82 TH? lawls.
mjr___: yeah
mjr___: that is quite a bit
mjr___: how long to generate 780 btc with 2 terrahashes
dub: ;;genrate 2000000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 2000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 112.077095651 BTC per day and 4.66987898546 BTC per hour.
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 2820000
gribble: 2820000
Diablo-D3: ;;genrate 282000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 282000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 15.8028704868 BTC per day and 0.65845293695 BTC per hour.
Diablo-D3: ;;genrate 2820000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 2820000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 158.028704868 BTC per day and 6.5845293695 BTC per hour.
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 780 / 158
gribble: 4.93670886076
Diablo-D3: 4.9 days
Diablo-D3: though remember, those chips are only half the cost
mjr___: of course
Diablo-D3: still have to fab the boards and mount components
Diablo-D3: also
kakobrekla: the biggest cost is time
mjr___: yep, he has electrical engineers etc
Diablo-D3: it was what 800 watts for 68gh?
mjr___: yep
mjr___: i'm not even sure what his end goal is
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 2820 / 68 * 800
gribble: 33176.4705882
mjr___: sell mining rigs? mine all himself?
Diablo-D3: 33kw
truff1es: <KRS-1> Skrillex- Bangarang and Kyoto are imo the other best songs >>> really enjoyed these *dances*
kakobrekla: mjr___ simple, mine while diff low and sell the hardware then
KRS-1: lol I'm more of a domestic beer, maybe southern comfort and cigarettes kind of guy..the country boy in me
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: heh, Im even questioning my purchase of these asicminer blades
Diablo-D3: I may pull out of the bidding
kakobrekla: then what, dmc 6.0?
Diablo-D3: hurr
Diablo-D3: Im buying these for my private ownership
Diablo-D3: I currently still have an active bid for 8 of them at 32 BTC each
kakobrekla: oh since when do you have that kind of money :)
KRS-1: truff1es: glad you like..thats what I like most about IRC, getting turned onto something that I would not have otherwise come across.
Diablo-D3: I sold 371 of my asicminer shares
mjr___: is there news on the asicminer front?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 explain to me your reasoning there.
mircea_popescu: they will make maybe half a btc a day, if diff stays put
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: out of 1371.
mircea_popescu: no, blades at 32
Diablo-D3: ;;genrate 10000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 32 / 0.56
gribble: 57.1428571429
Diablo-D3: two months IF diff stays put
Diablo-D3: however that translates closer to a year since BFL apparently _is_ shipping
mircea_popescu: so what sense does that make.
Diablo-D3: its closer to a year.
truff1es: KRS-1 do you like Blue Foundation - Eyes On Fire?`
Diablo-D3: thats what the difficulty projections are saying
mircea_popescu: and you won.t even get .5, seeing how next diff is +12%
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
mircea_popescu: in like 50 blocks or w/e
gribble: Current Blocks: 233657 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 198 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 3 hours, 18 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10010787.9429 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.54956
thestringpuller: HOLY FUCKING SHIT
mircea_popescu: whoa the 10mn is crossed!
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: Im not sure if I want to sit on that hardware for an entire year
thestringpuller: Dude june futures would have made a killing back in March
mircea_popescu: iiincredible
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 74111.2050128
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I'd be better off waiting for a 28nm product.
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
KRS-1: ah closer tolerances is higher heat
KRS-1: anyone know if the 51% attack on litecoin is for real or not
mjr___: Butterfly lab for now have the most complete package when talking about power and power consumption <-----LOL
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: who cares, its litecoin
ThickAsThieves: only the attckers would know
KRS-1: true..but i'm interested, I dont care if its bitcoin, buttcoin, or fuckcoin, if it makes me a buck I'd like to try it.
KRS-1: heh
kakobrekla: wait the point of this is to make a buck?
tiberiusiv: for the losers yes
mjr___: Diablo-D3: i hope to see a 28nm process chip soon
KRS-1: we all have our own interests, whatever turns our crank, namean? I don't think it necessarily makes you a loser if you are not part of the elite or mainstream.
mjr___: that is correct however, as of right now, i don't think BFL consumes any power!
mjr___: super efficient
kakobrekla: but i thought bitcoin is like hospital
kakobrekla: dunno
mjr___: hahaha
mjr___: srsly though, if any of these reporters were doing a research project for a freshman high school class, they would fail
mjr___: they can't take the time to plagiarize?
Diablo-D3: mjr___: 28/32 might be coming sometime next year.
KRS-1: thats sick..never thought i'd see that day
KRS-1: they say we'd eventually come down to tolerances close to the size of atoms, although not smaller than an electron, we might have to move to photons or something, although i think photons are bigger than electrons
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: you're conceptualizing it wrong
KRS-1: :/
Diablo-D3: carbon nanotubes can get us below 5nm
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: btw no
Diablo-D3: photons may not have any physical size at all
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KRS-1: but they have mass no?
KRS-1: only very slight
KRS-1: do you think the future of computing is light
KRS-1: im not so sure rly
Diablo-D3: intel is already experimenting with in chip light pipes
Diablo-D3: and no, photons have no mass
KRS-1: if so we can exploit some advantages of using quantum mechanics
Diablo-D3: although you'd have to figure out how to measure the rest mass of a photon
KRS-1: thats what i was thinking
KRS-1: some very exciting things are happening with light and quantum mechanics
KRS-1: i was blown away when i learned about entanglement
Diablo-D3: anyhow, the size of an electron is about 3 fermi
KRS-1: entanglement showed us that the primary rules of physics are secondary to entanglements..distance and time don't matter
tiberiusiv: why the fuck arent people in here outraged at mirceas second massive monthly loss
Diablo-D3: photons are around half a fermi
Diablo-D3: also Im lagging badly, wow
mircea_popescu: photons havce no rest mass
mircea_popescu: they have energy-mass if threy move
KRS-1: ah there we go...so photons do have a size but no mass- that makes much more sense.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: traditionally this is considered true
mircea_popescu: but yes, they probably don't have a size in the classical sense
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: it has not been experimentally been proven
Diablo-D3: but its most likely true
KRS-1: they're maybe "in between" mass and energy then..since mass IS energy and vice versa
Diablo-D3: otherwise physics would get very weird
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KRS-1: physics does get very weird in the quantums.
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: well, it has no mass because it moves at the speed of light </high school physics knowledge rape>
KRS-1: right
Diablo-D3: it DOES however have a limit of how close you can get to it
KRS-1: anyway the future of computing must involve these principles at some point unless we will enter dark ages..no significant discoveries..that would be sad.
KRS-1: that is where i think we will be going when moores law doesnt apply anymore.
truff1es: back to this subject again,quantum computing is far off in the future dont worry
mjr___: not quantum in this convo
thestringpuller: no quantum computing exists!
thestringpuller: it's secret
thestringpuller: super secret
KRS-1: they're using quantum computing for encryption atm
thestringpuller: BUT I'VE SEEN'T IT
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: since quantum space is quantized, we know what the grid size for photons are
mjr___: and yes quantum computing does exist right now... they've gotten 7 qubits
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Diablo-D3: KRS-1: its about half a fermi
KRS-1: diablo: amazing..you my friend are very well informed.
mjr___: they were talking about smaller and smaller processes for chips
mjr___: but still traditional chips
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: now the thing is, its not the size of the particle but the size of the pipe
KRS-1: lol thats what SHE said
truff1es: haha
KRS-1: but yea..thats the hard part.
Diablo-D3: we're reaching the limits of ultraviolet lithography techniques
KRS-1: and managing the heat
mjr___: that is the hardest thing about bitcoin mining
KRS-1: which is the printing board for cpu's right?
truff1es: size hard heating
truff1es: what is this
mjr___: is that the entire chip is being used, and most chips rely on the fact that some parts can cool while others are hot
KRS-1: they must be massive on the actual design boards
KRS-1: before being shrunk
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: its not really a board, its a very thin wafer
KRS-1: thats where the chip design is actually carved out? I thought it was on these big chalk board looking things that are shrunk to the wafers before the lithography
KRS-1: anyway i'll read up on it- thanks!
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: with current lithography techniques, chemical polishing, and the other processes used to make these chips
Diablo-D3: you can get down to 14nm
KRS-1: oof ..wow.
Diablo-D3: below that, quantum tunneling becomes an issue
KRS-1: thats where the electrons dont know which path to take or whatnot
KRS-1: or actually split
Diablo-D3: well, its where they can jump right through material
KRS-1: amazing
Diablo-D3: electrons in normal chips could jump 15nm
KRS-1: not sure if the future is indeed bright or if we will eventually lead to a dark age where there is minimal discovery..that kind of bothers me, because we're only improving but not changing
Diablo-D3: so if you're designing these you end up with much larger gaps between the features
Diablo-D3: btw, I mean 15nm in silicon.
Diablo-D3: just to make that clear.
KRS-1: right
KRS-1: perhaps a new novel material
KRS-1: probably carbon
Diablo-D3: well
Diablo-D3: also, intel is finishing construction on their 14nm facility in arizona
Diablo-D3: infact, it might already be done
Diablo-D3: they'll be shipping 14nm products mid 2014 from what I understand
KRS-1: who is right behind them or are they head and shoulders above the competition?
mjr___: lol
mjr___: nobody
mjr___: amd?
KRS-1: no not amd lol
Diablo-D3: nobody
Diablo-D3: and AMD doesnt fab chips
KRS-1: craziness
Diablo-D3: they split their fab division off as GloFo
mjr___: amd does design though don't they?
KRS-1: yea i heard that, but they once did i believe
Diablo-D3: mjr___: yes, but they stick with proven technologies
mjr___: yes
Diablo-D3: which is why they're at 32nm now
mjr___: diablo why does nvidia suck at mining?
Diablo-D3: they refuse to optimize for integer performance
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: now, samsung, hynix, and toshiba fab chips too
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: they're already working on 14nm processes
joecool: Diablo-D3: quantum tunnelling will be more of an issue at the 10nm process level
Diablo-D3: joecool: I said 14nm is as small as we get because of it
Diablo-D3: joecool: it becomes impossible to design chips at 10nm
Diablo-D3: using existing HSQ and MSQ polymer dielectrics on silicon.
mjr___: Diablo-D3: do you think you could implement the sha-256 algo in a way that would be efficient for nvidia?
Diablo-D3: mjr___: no. and my kernel already implements it as efficient as possible.
Diablo-D3: mjr___: radeons execute integer add, xor, and rot in a single cycle
KRS-1: I dont know much about hynix and toshiba but I bet samsung is doing cool stuff. Hehe thinking back, I was a very big fan of Motorola.
Diablo-D3: nvidia does not do ANY of those in a single cycle
joecool: Diablo-D3: actually intel claimed they might skip 10nm and go to 8nm
mjr___: nice
Diablo-D3: and rotate is more expensive than add and xor on nvidia
mjr___: i see
Diablo-D3: joecool: 8nm is the half node size for 10 iirc, so its the same shit anyhow
mjr___: Diablo-D3: i think eventually we will need to use a larger bus, serial is a bottleneck
mjr___: you take 256 clock cycles just to get the hash in over a serial bus
mjr___: and with pipelining, the best you can hope for is one double hash per clock cycle
thestringpuller: WHY AREn'T YOU PEOPLE WATCHING GAME OF THRONES?
Diablo-D3: thats not an issue I have to care about
KRS-1: lol never even heard abou tit
KRS-1: but Diablo's got me glued
Diablo-D3: mjr___: and btw, I only upload the kernel arguments once every 2**32 hashes
Diablo-D3: mjr___: and the CUs set up the arguments as shared registers for the entire work group
mjr___: that is pretty cool
Diablo-D3: well, 2**32 if I use -f small-enough-number
Diablo-D3: but you get what I mean
Diablo-D3: its very infrequent
mjr___: right now we are working on a virtex 6 design
Diablo-D3: SO ANYHOW
mjr___: so it has a massive amount of block ram
Diablo-D3: IBM has produced a cabon nanotube transitor
KRS-1: thats craziness in itself..
KRS-1: that could take us off on a completely different tangent
KRS-1: nano=extremely small + billions of transistors = CPU no?
Diablo-D3: and some research team from Korea has developed a working FinFET
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: well, nanotech starts at 10nm basically
KRS-1: but nanotube transistors is a deviation from traditional cpu design isnt it
Diablo-D3: nope
thestringpuller: lol nanotube
KRS-1: just smaller..
Diablo-D3: you're replacing existing dielectrics with carbon.
thestringpuller: is gonna come back
joecool: just swapping material, can maintain the design
KRS-1: ah and thus a friction reduction
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: no
Diablo-D3: friction? wtf?
KRS-1: no friction at that scale?
Diablo-D3: what sort of friction are we talking about here?
Diablo-D3: theres no moving parts in my CPU =P
KRS-1: electrons moving about in a cpu cause friction, heat right?
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Diablo-D3: thats not called friction
benkay: semantics
KRS-1: ok so bad use of the term but i think you know what im referring to?
Diablo-D3: yes, you mean resistance
KRS-1: right
Diablo-D3: the reason you decrease feature size is to decrease resistance through less voltage
Diablo-D3: thus less waste heat
mjr___: yeah the finfet operated on .7 volts at 28nm
Diablo-D3: mjr___: the korean one Im talking about was much smaller
mjr___: yeah, i was talking about the one from taiwan semi
mjr___: by the way, is asicminer an actual chip or a hardcoded fpga?
Diablo-D3: actual chip
Diablo-D3: so is avalon
Diablo-D3: who knows what bfl is
mjr___: really?
Diablo-D3: yeah, avalon is at 90nm, asicminer is at 130nm
joecool: bfl is an avalon with the name ground off
mjr___: thought avalon was 110nm
Diablo-D3: they both licensed existing IP from their fabs and spammed it on their chips with minimal routing and timing wiring
Diablo-D3: I thought 90, might be 110
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KRS-1: Diablo: We are getting more clever at improving what we do, but we are not changing how we do it. Example: ever smaller tolerances for CPU design. At some point moore's law will have to break down and not apply. Do you think we will enter a sort of "dark ages" where there will be little, if any discovery for a very long time? Or, do you think there will be great discovery on the
KRS-1: horizon where we will enter a "golden age" of discovery and or "enlightenment"?
mjr___: it depends on whether you think we need constant improvement
Diablo-D3: moore's law was just a really accurate prediction anyhow
KRS-1: whether we need it or not, it will happen
Diablo-D3: KRS-1: what we need is to quit writing software like shit
mjr___: no...if you are asking if we would enter a dark ages
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Diablo-D3: its not the hardware thats the problem
Diablo-D3: its the software
mjr___: agree
Diablo-D3: protip: STOP USING THREADS, ASSHOLES
mjr___: hahaha
joecool: i wish battery technology would move along, that shit hasn't gone anywhere
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Diablo-D3: IBM solved this fucking problem in the late fucking 60s
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Diablo-D3: why the fuck do people keep doing it wrong
Diablo-D3: joecool: oh, batteries are dead
KRS-1: Basically, I am asking if we will come to a point where we stop discovering and keep concentrating on improving to the point where we can't anymore. Thus, no new discoveries, no new improvements.
joecool: Diablo-D3: well i don't have a fuel cell in my laptop either
mjr___: KRS-1: if you think science is understanding the universe we live in, then what happens once we understand it all?
Diablo-D3: joecool: graphite supercapacitors have no memory effect, instantly charge, and hold at least 10 times more power than existing shipping tech
Diablo-D3: and yes, I mean charge instantly, you will not be able to provide power to it fast enough.
joecool: well obv, copper wires have a limit
Diablo-D3: it will happily peg a 120v 15a plug.
KRS-1: mjr: I think science is a tool for understanding what we don't..but I don't know once we understand it all..maybe the answer is "42".
joecool: Diablo-D3: yet nothing is at market?
Diablo-D3: joecool: not until 2020.
KRS-1: Thanks for the chat Diablo- everyone. I'm going to be doing some followup reading. I appreciate the stimulating conversations.
mjr___: thats my point...it only matters to get better, faster, if you have a reason
Diablo-D3: which btw, Ive predicted the end of the world will be sometime in 2016.
Diablo-D3: so /me shrugs
KRS-1: Oh dear, I better cultivate those investments a little more.
Diablo-D3: but yeah basically
kakobrekla: why bother with anything then Diablo-D3
KRS-1: If you don't mind, a couple of sentences on why you think that in a private message would be most appreciated.. I won't reply but I'll follow up with my own research.
Diablo-D3: computes are completely async inside
Diablo-D3: *computers
joecool: kakobrekla: exactly, i'm gonna take up drinking
Diablo-D3: so why write code that requires highly synchronous action
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 cause world will end in 3 years
mjr___: what would you use instead of threads?
Diablo-D3: just make everything concurrent single threaded processes and pipe everything
kakobrekla: nobody gives a fuck
kakobrekla: ya know
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: that doesnt explain the last 40 years of programming.
Diablo-D3: seriously, the reason your computer is basically no faster than the 486 you used to have years ago on real world tasks?
Diablo-D3: threads.
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 they thought it was gonna be 2012
kakobrekla: that explains it
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: add 3 and a half years to december 21st 2012.
kakobrekla: why are you still bothering then
Diablo-D3: bored.
mjr___: have the best 3 and a half years possible?
kakobrekla: on irc!
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: Im not on IRC nearly as much as people think I am
mjr___: IRC is probably my favorite thing
joecool: Diablo-D3: liar, you just move around a ton of channels
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Diablo-D3: alright Im going to bed
Diablo-D3: night all
KRS-1: Did you guys feel that too? Diablo...just left.
KRS-1: woa
kakobrekla: what?
KRS-1: nothing..sry
truff1es: KRS-1 know any sad songs?
truff1es: Gloomy Sunday - Billie Holiday would fit..
KRS-1: hmm
KRS-1: wow thats old.
KRS-1: gimme a min i can come up with something
truff1es: i couldnt think of anything i listen to normally
KRS-1: Ok- I have the perfect one.
truff1es: that song from man on fire
mjr___: january wedding avett brothers
KRS-1: This one has Annie Lennox in it, I think its a much better version.
mjr___: not sure if its sad
mjr___: or maybe bon iver blood bank
KRS-1: This was originally done by Neil Young but I like this version better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1x6u1rkxS4
KRS-1: from one of my most fav. movies: American Beauty
KRS-1: goes great on a cold night with misty like rain
truff1es: this song's not bad
mjr___: which?
truff1es: Don´t let it bring you down- by Annie Lennox, now listening to blood bank
truff1es: its got the kinda sadness im looking for
truff1es: if not for these chatrooms id never encounter all these types of music
mjr___: blood bank?
mjr___: i figured that is what you were looking for
mjr___: its one of my favorites
mjr___: sad to me meant somewhat melancholy but not necessarily having sad lyrics
KRS-1: Thats what I said earlier truff1es- about chat rooms..Aint it great.
truff1es: u get what u want out of them
KRS-1: At first I thought- "Its been a while" by Staind, then I thought, nahhh not enough. Need MOAR.
truff1es: i aim for culture
KRS-1: ok I'll keep that in mind.
mjr___: you also might like jose gonzalez's veneer album
mjr___: its pretty great
KRS-1: checking that out now
mjr___: heartbeats is prob the best song on it
KRS-1: ok just gonna ask u that
mjr___: but there are otherse that are good too
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mjr___: down the line is great
KRS-1: not bad, this is kinda cool mjr
KRS-1: I might be weird, but I thought this was f'n amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knUFWY2P44
truff1es: José González - Save Your Day, I like
mjr___: i fell in love with a dead boy - antony and the johnsons
mjr___: the prayer is a great song too
truff1es: i heard that audition before
mjr___: KRS-1: that is a great video
truff1es: pieces of me thats a great one
truff1es: cant think of the band, might not be the title..
mjr___: wagon wheel - old crow medicine show
mjr___: you don't know how it feels - tom petty
truff1es: reminds me of Phantom of the Opera
mjr___: in fact...
mjr___: http://www.pandora.com/land/station/5824683d717a52e9d6873c0d7bdf02ef2024179d9bdf3892?referrer=joshrossi&site=facebook&shareImp=true&seed=station
mjr___: that is the station i listen to, if you look at its details, you will see all the music choices, which tracks i put in, which artists, and my thumbs up history
mjr___: so that is the best list to show you what i usually listen to...its always evolving, but i think its pretty good
mjr___: and you can listen to samples of each song, to choose what you like
truff1es: too bad it doesnt work for me..
mjr___: why not?
mjr___: http://www.pandora.com/station/859797464278263737
mjr___: this link works?
truff1es: id need a proxy or something..
mjr___: oh duh, i didn't realize that you weren't in the US
mjr___: couldn't you just use tor?
mjr___: or would it be too slow for a stream?
mjr___: its a pretty eclectic collection lol
KRS-1: mjr: That station you said you listen to- great stuff.
mjr___: why thank you
mjr___: its very eclectic
mjr___: i made it
mjr___: so its what i like
truff1es: i was trying to find my fav song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyyCz9z1s_M
KRS-1: yeh kind of my taste, although i go all over the place at times.
KRS-1: Johnny Cash: Hurt- is a great song
mjr___: yeah
mjr___: that is why its called god's gonna cut you down radio
mjr___: cuz that was the song i started with
mjr___: then i added in a bunch of other stuff
mjr___: then thumbed up tracks i like
mjr___: so its been learning what i like
truff1es: ive got a mixed taste in music also
mjr___: but it usually works in waves
truff1es: i will have to try tor..
mjr___: so you'll get maybe a 90's rock wave
mjr___: then maybe an lcd soundsystem type wave
mjr___: then a kinda country guitar wave
KRS-1: truff1es: interesting- I doubt i would ever listen to this, but thanks its got my ear now..hmm.
mjr___: which is kinda nice that it smooths it like that
KRS-1: 90's rock is unreal
KRS-1: i think it might be my fav genre
truff1es: fav song out of the phantom of the opera not of all time
KRS-1: great to smoke to
mjr___: it is pretty nice
truff1es: i have many favorites
KRS-1: truff1es: same here, i can be all over the place at times..even country, but only the major hits and classics.
mjr___: so my station has rolling stones, violent femmes, pixies, lcd soundsystem, bruce springsteen...its kinda crazy but it works
KRS-1: never heard of lcd soundsystem
KRS-1: 311 was one of my fav 90s rock
mjr___: dear mr. fantasy by traffic is a great song
KRS-1: Recently came across this that had me from the beginning, never heard it before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvjFThqmq0
KRS-1: Gonna check that one out now
mjr___: http://www.pandora.com/david-bowie/bowie-at-beeb-best-of-bbc-radio-sessions-68-72/ziggy-stardust-bbc-radio-version-live
KRS-1: not bad..makes me feel like I should have a beer in my hand.
mjr___: all i want is you - U2
mjr___: i've been a big fan of the avett brothers lately
truff1es: do u have to download tor browser?
mjr___: a perfect space is a good song by them\
mjr___: truff1es: no i don't think so
mjr___: try this
truff1es: i might as well get it for future use
KRS-1: dear mr. fantasy by traffic: WOW
KRS-1: This pings me a bit
mjr___: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/22/tor_japan_police_ban/ This is not good
truff1es: sandbox wont cut it
mjr___: seven by david bowie
KRS-1: THANKS mjr- this is going into the collection
mjr___: hmmm i was thinking of the website that passes through
KRS-1: Its like..a smokey bar song.
KRS-1: Who are they to say the Internet SHOULDN'T be anonymous. Its far too personal as it is.
truff1es: flash and my pc are like enemies
mjr___: http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html
mjr___: try that?
truff1es: got tor
mjr___: cool
truff1es: just need to refresh
KRS-1: those anonymizer sites are probably even more monitored than as if you don't even use em, but if you just don't want to be known by the server you are contacting then np
KRS-1: two different uses at hand
mjr___: eh, this is just to use pandora overseas
KRS-1: cant use pandora from outside the U.S.?
truff1es: why wont it recognized the update!!
mjr___: nope
truff1es: ok gotta try annon site
truff1es: do u normally restart after installing flash?
truff1es: i dont remember
mjr___: not sure, i don't think so...but i don't know
truff1es: i often end up deleting it and reinstalling when needed
truff1es: but i cant remember heh
mjr___: i'm on windows 7 and flash is installed
mjr___: i have virtual machines for other things
truff1es: anyways this songs great Antony & The Johnsons - I fell in Love with a Death Boy
mjr___: figured you would like it
truff1es: u couldnt know though
mjr___: KRS-1: Making Me Nervous - Brad Sucks
truff1es: my tastes somethings are borderline snobbery
mjr___: well, like i said, i figured you wanted a certain level of melancholy
mjr___: probably pretty voices, minor tonality
truff1es: i tend to zone in on vocalist
mjr___: yeah, i get that
truff1es: but i like dubstep : p
mjr___: me too
mjr___: like i said, everything from old appalachian string bands to skrillex
truff1es: omg this person is weird , is it a man?
mjr___: truff1es: seven by david bowie... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj8y3cpSf6s
mjr___: truff1es: he is a gay guy i think
truff1es: im gonna have to come back to the pandora sometime
truff1es: too much going on on my screen
mjr___: cool
mjr___: did you like les miserables?
mjr___: ann hathaway almost brought tears to my eyes
truff1es: tragedies are prob auto like by me
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truff1es: seven is a good one
mjr___: truff1es: do you know of "the magnetic fields"
KRS-1: no?
mjr___: they have a ton of songs you will like i think
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KRS-1: if you can recomment their best one or biggest hit
mjr___: specifically look up "papa was a rodeo", "nothing matters when we're dancing", "the book of love"...
mjr___: check it out too KRS-1
KRS-1: ok ill do that now
mjr___: fake plastic trees (acoustic version) by radiohead
KRS-1: This is an hilarious video
truff1es: not a fan of johnny cash..
KRS-1: good song too
KRS-1: truff1es I wasnt either but somehow i got to listen to a few of his hits and broadened my horizons..idk how
truff1es: let me relisten to hurt before i say that again heh
KRS-1: exactly..i think thats the song that did it
mjr___: yes, that is my favorite
KRS-1: Magnetic Fields Papa was a Rodeo
KRS-1: nine inch nails did that one
mjr___: yeah
KRS-1: hmm this is interesting mjr
KRS-1: different
truff1es: yep still dont like mr cash
KRS-1: LOL truff1es
mjr___: it was almost all covers on american IV
KRS-1: not for everyone
KRS-1: similar in style to U2-numb
KRS-1: seems like magnetic fields is an acquired taste
truff1es: the magnetic fields voice is similar
KRS-1: yes sure seems like it
truff1es: have to be in a mood for that..
mjr___: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHL1X0jV0dI
KRS-1: I've heard fake plastic trees (acoustic version) by radiohead..good one
mjr___: i just like this because its beautiful with the black and white video of people dancing back when america still had class LOL
KRS-1: mjr: u might like this
mjr___: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHL1X0jV0dI
truff1es: i guess this is where our tastes clash
mjr___: hallelujah - jeff buckley ?
KRS-1: it happens
truff1es: yep good one
mjr___: did you not like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHL1X0jV0dI ?
KRS-1: stone temple pilots- trippin on a hole in a paper heart This one revvs my engine
KRS-1: is it just me or am I still looking at a rising wedge here..i'm still holding on my orders.
mjr___: oh you will appreciate this KRS-1
mjr___: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2218682996901&set=a.1092346279187.15249.1542422870&type=3&theater
truff1es: mjr are u a fan of mayer?
mjr___: john mayer? not really
KRS-1: HAHAHA yep thanks lol!
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mjr___: i think that was from the network+ practice tests
truff1es: mjr and KRS-1 thanks for all the links, i bid u adieu
KRS-1: same
KRS-1: it was a pleasure, guys
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