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crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-27#1011723 << Not only practical, but a garb of quality not manufactured anymore (at least to my knowledge).
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-27 17:24:14 phf[awt]: and nikolai the second wearing the same outfit (his was red though) https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48050981657_06e2f9a58d_o.jpg
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: Speaking of apparel quality, a pair of decent quality boots that last >6mo seems to be an astonishingly difficult thing to get a hold of.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: There doesn't seem to be a linear correlation with greater expense == higher quality with footwear in general.
PeterL[asciilifeform]: crtdaydreams: I don't know if they are carried in your area, but Red Wing and Wolverine brand work boots seem to be the highest quality around here.
PeterL[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-27#1113408 << obviously, if the hosting bill goes unpaid then the website disappears eventually.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-08-27 ARCHIMEDES: Is there any potential that MP's website hosting bill may go unpaid, or for that matter, that the site may simply disappear at some point?
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-28 23:40:51 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-28#1011732 << if it's anything like a fire sale, they hike up the prices two weeks in advance then it drops for the sale back to msrp
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Been kinda behind with my blatta maintenance, will be pressing latest after un cafecito this morning.
phf[asciilifeform]: i've been slow with my pest progress, because i started building a general solution for message rendering: maintain packet graph, insert into graph on packet receipt, do a kahn sort, then diff the result sequence using Hirschberg algorithm, which tells me “optimal” minimal updates to the already rendered message view (
phf[asciilifeform]: i.e. if the packet was appended or if it's out of order and needs to be inserted somewhere in the past)
phf[asciilifeform]: something tells me there's a simpler way of doing things, but…
phf[asciilifeform]: but meanwhile i can do a simple prod song and dance to make sure that my netchain/selfchain are correct :> http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Oesr
phf[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011801 << well, it's certainly still manufactured, because "kuban cossacks" is a strange ru paramilitary organization, which is equal parts freemasons, honorable order of kentucky colonels, stolen valor larpers, religious police and parade units
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-29 04:01:30 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|awt|signpost]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-27#1011723 << Not only practical, but a garb of quality not manufactured anymore (at least to my knowledge).
phf[asciilifeform]: here's a whole bunch of photos from "kuban cossack parade", https://regnum.ru/news/cultura/2616075.html
phf[asciilifeform]: now as to the "quality", that a different question, there's definitely a handful of manufacturers who make a whole range, from cheap cotton immitations to
phf[asciilifeform]: sent it before finished editing; from cotton immitations to i suspect somewhat functional wool replicas, that had at least some field use in mind
phf[asciilifeform]: i was at some point surprised to find high quality garments in ru, that are made locally and sold very cheap, that are designed for military and infrastructure use. it's a kind of highbreed between us military surplus and prison made clothing. if you want e.g. fishing gear to sit outside in -40c all day can have the whole
phf[asciilifeform]: set (coverall, boots, thermals, under layer) for ~~$100 and it'll work and mostly last, but will look ugly. i suspect cossack coats have similar quality
asciilifeform: phf: afaik indeed comes in 'cosplay' and 'practical' flavour, rather like usa 'tacticals'; and the 2 not much resemble one anuther
phf[asciilifeform]: milspec cherkeska: PALS instead of gazyr, shorten to right above knees, MARPAT
phf[asciilifeform]: of course for traditional reasons one wears triple mag pouch where gazyr used to be
asciilifeform: phf: the undying 'full mag stopped bullet' meme prolly also connected
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Testing blatta v9973
busybot[asciilifeform]: The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 20169.89 USD
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011806 << looks like they have a .au distributor, when current pair kicks the bucket will prolly give a pair of red wings a go.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-29 06:36:52 PeterL: crtdaydreams: I don't know if they are carried in your area, but Red Wing and Wolverine brand work boots seem to be the highest quality around here.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011816 << interesting. not dissimilar from "queens guard"
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-29 09:59:16 phf[awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011801 << well, it's certainly still manufactured, because "kuban cossacks" is a strange ru paramilitary organization, which is equal parts freemasons, honorable order of kentucky colonels, stolen valor larpers, religious police and parade unit
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011823 << imagine would be better than nuthin' in coming winter
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-29 10:16:51 phf[awt]: i was at some point surprised to find high quality garments in ru, that are made locally and sold very cheap, that are designed for military and infrastructure use. it's a kind of highbreed between us military surplus and prison made clothing. if you want e.g. fishing gear to sit out
phf[asciilifeform]: i've stopped by a handful of red wing stores and somehow their instore offerings are always ugly as hell
billymg[asciilifeform]: crtdaydreams: can confirm, wolverine boots are great. i've got three pairs of these i bought in ny after a coworker got me into the trend
billymg[asciilifeform]: used to wear them every day
billymg[asciilifeform]: also had a pair of redwings that i just recently gave away, wolverines are slightly higher quality imo
billymg[asciilifeform]: phf: imo their only worthwhile offering is the [iron ranger][https://www.redwingshoes.com/heritage/mens/Iron-Ranger-08111.html]
phf[asciilifeform]: yes, which is also the only boot that's practical for me: i need traditional heel and low tread sole, because anything else has a risk of getting caught in stirrup
phf[asciilifeform]: but i've not seen an iron ranger in store even once :o
PeterL[asciilifeform]: I have a pair of Woverine steel-toes that I got from a previous employer, after 7 years they are pretty beat up but I still use them whenever I do yardwork.
PeterL[asciilifeform]: now I mostly wear a pair of Hytest steel-toe shoes, they are a bit older than the others and I had to get the insoles replaced, but the outer shell is still in good shape
PeterL[asciilifeform]: these are the shoes where I was moving a piano, dropped it about a foot straight down onto my foot. I looked down and said "heh, glad I'm wearing protective shoes!"
PeterL[asciilifeform]: left a small dent in the leather on top of the shoe, but I didn't feel anything
PeterL[asciilifeform]: Where I work I'm required to have steel-toes for safety reasons, but I don't put a lot of wear on them like a guy in the trades would, and the biggest thing I have actually dropped on my toe at work was a wrench the size of my pinky
phf[asciilifeform]: my current go to boot is a lulzy frankenstein: it's a cheap chinese “classic” doc martens, where some city cobbler replaced the sole with whatever he had in a box, because the stitching was a fake and the sole just separated. the cobbler put it on glue, but when it separated second time a local amish cobbler's son stit
phf[asciilifeform]: ched it proper. so now it's actually a semi-descent shoe. i wore it for ~~10 years.
phf[asciilifeform]: i had a horse step on the toe a few times, it's not a piano, but it made me wish to have a steel toe
PeterL[asciilifeform]: the other time the steel toes comes in handy is when my kids are around, they always want to stand right on my feet when they talk to me
phf[asciilifeform]: oh the amish also replaced the insole and the heel. stone soup shoe
phf[asciilifeform]: PeterL, that seems like a kind of parenting experience one wants to minimize but then misses dearly
PeterL[asciilifeform]: when I have my shoes on it's fine, but then they do it when I don't have on shoes, and that hundred pounds starts to hurt
phf[asciilifeform]: the pain of fatherhood!
PeterL[asciilifeform]: right!?! and they are always so needy, like they expect me to feed them every single day or something
PeterL[asciilifeform]: although, sometimes it is funny. Like my teen-ager was all "I'm hungry" and I said to make a sandwich, and they were like "meh, that's too much work"
awt[asciilifeform]: PeterL: my daughter just started cooking her own food because she didn't like what I was making. Of course she mostly cooks mac&cheese and pasta w/ red sauce.
signpost[asciilifeform]: I recently noticed how much having my toes jammed together sucks, currently hunting for a good wide toe-box shoe.
signpost[asciilifeform]: worked from home for too long and my toes spread out!
phf[asciilifeform]: correct method is of course to keep your foot's last at your preferred cordwainer :}
signpost[asciilifeform]: answer to so many things... "have you considered having real ones made?"
shinohai[asciilifeform] searches for "cobblers near signpost" finds nothing .....
phf[asciilifeform]: welcome to "that's why we can't have nice things"
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