crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-27#1117748 << I've had to remove 3 different wolf spiders the size of my hand over the last month
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-27 09:25:13 Vex: worst bit about it is, the spider starts freaking out too
crtdaydreams: one at work today crept up beside me on the floor, called over colleage
crtdaydreams: colleague is squatting taking photo of the little guy, softly tap them on the shoulder mimicking spidey steps
crtdaydreams: you get a big fat "fuck off" when they jump 3 inches off the ground
crtdaydreams: not 10 minutes ago I was having a shower and one of the dicey muthafuckas skiddadles over the outside of the shower curtain
crtdaydreams: they move quick, but the trick is to wear them out a bit and they passivate
crtdaydreams: healthy dose of the ol' shower nozzle for 10-30 sec
crtdaydreams: er one must imagine sisyphus happy
crtdaydreams: they suck at climing bathtubs, that's for sure
crtdaydreams: peanut butter jar works well they'll jump right into it but be quick the lid, try not to squish her
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-25#1117708 << i suspect i was smoking crack
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-25 23:22:47 crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-01-22#1774035 << From what I know, this may not be entirely correct. I'd be interested to know where you got that from, from what I can tell LISPIC predated NS by at least a couple years and the early design of NS either reused code or was heavily inspired by LISPIC. Neil Mayle, Howie Shrobe and Chris Terman were heavily involved in
phf: so sure of myself though, very 2018 tmsr. ascii at the time read it as my referencing some other kind of NS, that maybe predates symbolics NS, but i really don't remember such a thing existing.
phf: i have a '82 shrobe paper from some vlsi conference, where he says daedalus is a "graphics editor" "embedded in the DPL/Lisp environment". there's also a paper from '81 that i don't have in front of me (it's another vlsi conference, but the copy of the proceedings are at the office) called "The DPL/Daedalus Design Environment". i'll venture they moved away from the LISPIC nomenclature, which is used in ai-memo 598 from '80
phf: and then there's of course "NS: An Integrated Symbolic Design System" from yet another vlsi conference in '85
phf: i'm pretty sure both exist. or rather i have a copy of NS with ivory schematics. i know someone who had dpl/daedalus running on his cadr emulator. i'll follow up on that, the person in question is taking an extended break from computers
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-21#1117672 << oh you should just forget all that. cadr predates security, and it is by design too, look at e.g. ITS lore. it's the big ball of mud design through and through. so of course writing to another process's repl, or manipulating its objects directly is acceptable practice
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-21 17:09:32 crtdaydreams: but it definitely doesn't seem "safe" in the sense that any app can just start blasting keyboard input to any other app *in theory*
phf: blasting keyboard input can only happen by accident, or as a harmless prank, and for those cases you have BREAK key