adlai: pest spec kelvin high?
asciilifeform: adlai: read it and see
adlai "got a fever, and the only cure is" less kelvin
adlai: that was for Vex, meme's probably still on his favorite CDN
adlai: it does get deleted quite often, being warez
adlai recalls obtaining some copy of the HTML [or maybe simpler text?] newer than 2022; however, in general, you might consider including some Kelvin range in the /topic
adlai: see also effusion, dead links on loper-os, etc
crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-07-27#1010774 << I have a copy of the DPL manual. DPL itself mainly describes actual silicon layout as opposed to any high level constructs. The main tool is called "LISPIC" which would be the umbrella project you know as "Daedalus"
dulapbot: (pest) 2022-07-27 phf[asciilifeform]: but actually pretty incosistent, elsewhere talks about “a Lisp expression” when talking about DPL conditions, but also “Daedalus is a novel graphics editor implemented on the MIT Lisp Machine, a powerful 32-bit personal computer, including […] direct support the LISP language”
crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-01-22#1774035 << From what I know, this may not be entirely correct. I'd be interested to know where you got that from, from what I can tell LISPIC predated NS by at least a couple years and the early design of NS either reused code or was heavily inspired by LISPIC. Neil Mayle, Howie Shrobe and Chris Terman were heavily involved in
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-01-22 phf: daedalus and ns are completely unrelated pieces. NS is an older tool for laying out PALs
crtdaydreams: both MIT-VLSI and Symbolics EDA Projects
crtdaydreams: Gerald J. Sussman stated they didn't keep much records from the time, so it's highly unlikely that any of the original LISPIC code still remains
crtdaydreams: The LISPIC environement had a PLA Generator, Graphics Package, Text Editor, Node Extractor and Simulator wherein DLP was the "Glue" that bound all these interfaces into a database and ultimately output the Layout mask in a CIF file format
crtdaydreams: https://www.artsy.net/article/ruse-laboratories-gerald-jay-sussman-creator-of-scheme there's also this article which is a short biography on Sussman which mentions both LISPIC and Daedalus
crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-25#1117706 << apologies I didn't realise this was the same one from the AI-Memos
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-01-25 23:18:28 crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-07-27#1010774 << I have a copy of the DPL manual. DPL itself mainly describes actual silicon layout as opposed to any high level constructs. The main tool is called "LISPIC" which would be the umbrella project you know as "Daedalus"
crtdaydreams wonders what amberglint is up to
crtdaydreams: if you're still reading the logs, would be keen to peer and get you onto pestnet