asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105580 << fact. and earlier phf posted imho quite good hypothesis re why.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-09 23:14:18 phf: "old posts" seem like a common denominator in all these conversations
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-09 17:04:10 phf: actually i think he's a good example of modern propaganda machine trying to get its tendrils into you, would try one strategy, then another, ultimately "gets". because man became strongly covid dissedent, and while i am too, i couldn't care less, thought that most of his takes are exessive. but see once you bought into the narrative, doesn't matter what side, because you're "in". now he's been on "russia orcs rape ukr babies" 24/7
asciilifeform: this is recurring pattern -- a fella starts with 'ideas' flavour, then slowly declines into 'trend-reactive' and finally into 'nyt-frontpage-reactive'.
phf: asciilifeform: did your pest peering information change? 71.191...
thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-09#1105424 << problem today is not so much lack of a eugenics program, but highly active dysgenics program.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-09 17:10:30 verisimilitude: What's wrong with eugenics?
asciilifeform: phf: ip changed 2w ago
phf: ah, can has new ip please
asciilifeform: phf: 188.8.131.52
phf: works, ty
phf: hah, my pile of poo emoji didn't go through
asciilifeform: actually crashed blatta, lol
asciilifeform: thimbronion ^
phf: oh i should've tested cyrillic first..
asciilifeform: iirc last asciilifeform tried, worked
asciilifeform: possib. new bug
asciilifeform: File "/home/stas/blatta/blatta/blatta/lib/client.py", line 503, in message_from_station g
asciilifeform: self.__writebuffer += formatted_message + "\r\n"
asciilifeform: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xf0 in pos4ition 20: ordinal not in range(128)
phf: that looks like that would also not work for cyrillic, did you bring it back up?
asciilifeform: mine's up nao
asciilifeform: fire away
asciilifeform: ... indeed choked
phf: welp, my work here is done. gonna go have a breakfast
thimbronion: asciilifeform: will look into unicode issues. possibly just need to change the specified encoding there.
asciilifeform: ty thimbronion
phf: ironically python2 requires one to be a lot more disciplined about explicit encodes and decodes on data, where python3 would've made this problem explicit. probably one area where p3 was an improvement..
asciilifeform: uniturd support on py2 is rather weak
phf: gotta sprincle formatted_message.encode('utf-8') and such on entry and exit
asciilifeform: aha, asciilifeform cribbed this from phf in the logotron
asciilifeform: prior to this blew exactly as pictured above
phf: has there been changes to nat support in blatta? i'm not keeping track
asciilifeform: phf: afaik not supports sect.5 'nat drilling' yet
phf: k, will tweak router for now. can't actually read messages yet except through web log
asciilifeform: phf: orig. blatta worx under net if a) peer not in nat b) you find yer ephemeral port manually and tell other folx to connect there c) you can be arsed to add a fwd rule and perma-open a port, and remember to tell people
asciilifeform: sect.5 oughta abolish the need for all of these
asciilifeform: *under nat
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-10#1105593 << shitter's clogged.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-10 12:06:22 phf: hah, my pile of poo emoji didn't go through
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in minutia of civ. collapse : asciilifeform found that a once-commonplace konsoomer gadget -- wired 'room to room' intercom -- no longer can be had in usa (or, seemingly, anywhere), other than as 'antiquarian' scrap ripped outta old houses
asciilifeform: ( searched for 6mo+... the vintage crud leaves much to be desired, even if can find a transistorized (!) 1970s system; they all demanded 'star topology' and rather hefty 'base station', and annoyingly thick shielded cable from ea. room to center )
asciilifeform expected that someone , somewhere, at some pt would've sold a digital box that can be given address and sit on existing telco wiring as 'bus'. but apparently not!
phf: asciilifeform: people who i know who solved that problem (the bolix guy you've met for example) run voip, not sure if that is "simply", but a solution. have both intercom and physical phones connected to outside
shinohai remembers intercom of this type from childhood, was Radio-shack special and item he hasn't seen since ....
asciilifeform: phf: not seen voip with waterproof box w/ speaker -- do you happen to recall what the fella had ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: those typically had laffably small fixed # of boxes (2 or 3)
phf: waterproof? oooh door, i get it now. i thought interroom
asciilifeform: phf: door, rooms, cellar, workshop, etc
phf: because i have interroom intercom solution that works for me :D https://us.binnacle.com/Clocks-Barometers-&-Gifts-Bells/c1_6/p5445/Brass-Ships-Bell-6%22/product_info.html
asciilifeform had similar, but not so great when >1 building
asciilifeform with some revulsion realized that this tool likely extincted by derps sending text msgs to one anuther b/w rooms on pnojes
asciilifeform: + folx living in jp-sized flats where no one would even think of such a thing
verisimilitude: Why, just use a handy-dandy wireless surveillance device, asciilifeform.
asciilifeform recalls good ol' days when gestapo actually had to break into yer house and drill sofa legs to install the microphones
shinohai: "Alexa, who is my FBI handler?"
shinohai: neato billymg !
bitbot: Logged on 2022-05-30 23:10:00 phf: err, asciilifeform is there a way to search your logs by an uinterupted sequence of characters, e.g. btcbase lets you search "real me" (though at also greps lots of `real men`), but on logs it seems to do something odd
billymg: this is the list of "stop words" that are not indexed and therefore completely ignored (this list is customizable on the server but i've left it at the pg default for now)
billymg: everything is backed up so feel free to try to sql inject and pwn the server
billymg: but the results are still valid
billymg: what i think is most broken with it currently is how it handles queries consisting only of stop words, e.g. (picking a random example from the list of words) "against yourself"
billymg: it will return 0 results because it simply ignores the words
signpost: nice job billymg
billymg: ty signpost
billymg: as part of this i also fixed the "from:user" search for pest chans so that it ignores the hearsay handles
asciilifeform: billymg: nifty
bitbot: Logged on 2022-04-20 17:47:29 asciilifeform: a la 'pinebook' yea
signpost: probably going to use as truckputer going forward. I've wanted a mapping item that isn't a phone, or was a phone with hw switches.
bitbot: (pest) 2022-05-19 signpost[asciilifeform]: (item desired is more like "truck computer" than "pocket")
signpost: mount the thing like a cop, put foxtrotgps on it, rip out radios.
signpost: can plug in the dumbphone I got as cell-modem when wanted
asciilifeform: signpost: or can leave the radios, wardrive..
signpost: yeah, probably external usb guy better for that anyway, and can remove it
signpost: not the cell phone, but a usb wifi thinger.
asciilifeform: 'pine' imho a little bulky for 'truckputer'
asciilifeform: e.g. these would prolly work better. tho not sure how it'd hold up if left in the sun
signpost: tundo's got a lot of room in the center console, but yeah, we'll see
verisimilitude: I just use an external keyboard, signpost.
signpost: verisimilitude: external keyboard with what?
vex: https://www.rtl-sdr.com/frugal-radio-experimenting-with-rdio-scanner-and-trunk-recorder-on-p25-lsm/ truckputer idea
signpost: oh with the pinebook
signpost: yeah, I let this thing collect dust until they fixed the trackpad firmware. hasn't bothered me since updating, finally.
signpost: vex: yeah, I have a few SDRs laying around
signpost: one of those things where I hooked up once, went "huh cool" and put in a drawer.
signpost: might be useful to program in bookmarks for weather broadcasts though.
signpost has a separate gps doodad for it.
signpost: nice for clock sync without internet connection too.
vex: smokies detetected, settng maximum boost
verisimilitude: I just use an external keyboard with the Pinebook Pro, signpost.
verisimilitude: I recently got the Pinebook Pro running for over a month before it forced me to reboot it.
signpost: seems like it might turn out to a be a fine disposable computer at this point.
verisimilitude: It will be more usable with OpenBSD, likely.
verisimilitude: The default Manjaro isn't completely unusable, at least.
signpost: yeah, I've got that on there currently, but am preparing a gentoo chroot with which to replace.
verisimilitude: Well, I'll gladly replace it with a working Gentoo, if that gets finished.
verisimilitude: I like how they got the simple boot device ordering wrong.
signpost: will let ya know. this will be bleeding-edge gentoo since I pulled in someone's overlay for the manjaro-patched pinebook compatible kernel and firmware.
signpost: didn't notice re: boot order. what'd they fuck up?
verisimilitude: I'll get the documentation.
verisimilitude: They may have changed the information lately.
verisimilitude: The internal storage gets selected before removable storage, anyway, so have fun.
verisimilitude: Isn't that interesting?
signpost: huh, yeah, seems cumbersome.
signpost: the partition scheme it shipped with is fine, so I'll just be moving manjaro aside at some point and booting into the new userland from existing kernel, then building the new kernel alongside existing, then will be 100% gentoo.
signpost: must be able to reconfigure boot order though.
phf: apropos i still use c101pa chroomebooks (that's what i used for naval charts last weekend)
phf: sadly discontinued to be replaced with even more locked down pos
phf: despite the fact that they didn't serve our purposes still great hacker machines, as demonstrated by the fact that you can still find them new and unboxed around $500 across different vendors
verisimilitude: My kingdom for a good computer.
vex: those noaa charts are neato phf. the australian hydrographic service has no equivalent at any price.
vex: also, that stretch of water looks amazing
vex: the chart is even up to date with corrections
vex: I do like deadtree charts tho. walk into mapshop and cartographer makes corrections while u wait.
vex: can even hang it on the wall and take imaginary voyages
signpost: phf: yeah that thing looks decent. folding flat would be convenient.
signpost: pinebook was already sitting here useless; figured I'd see what could be wrung from it.