asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 11 nodes...
watchglass: 188.8.131.52:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240
watchglass: 184.108.40.206:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.088s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240
watchglass: 220.127.116.11:8333 : Alive: (0.090s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 18.104.22.168:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240
watchglass: 22.214.171.124:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.107s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 126.96.36.199:8333 : Alive: (0.167s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240
watchglass: 188.8.131.52:8333 : Alive: (0.343s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240
watchglass: 184.108.40.206:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.563s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630240
watchglass: 220.127.116.11:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.294s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630241
watchglass: 18.104.22.168:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)
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asciilifeform: didjaknow, jurov.
asciilifeform: jurov: be sure to let yer customers know they weren't stolen from, but rather 'condemned to confiscation by the sovereign'.
shinohai: For the glory of the Repub^H^H^H^H^HReich.
asciilifeform recalls wunderbar speech by mp in chinese restaurant at his timis '2nd conference', where 'there is no such thing as not a scam, errything's a scam from someone's pov'
asciilifeform: incidentally iirc jurov was there.
jurov: That comment without considering the context does give a sense, it's similar when you give your gold to be stored in usg's vault.
jurov: However, mircea is no sovereign party, just a rando who calls his slaves "lords of the republic".
jurov: How come noone is going to pay 30 BTC for a detective or someone such to handle the matter properly, instead of "advocacy", is beyond my grasp.
jurov: CoinBr is not going to, I don't want to anything with mp anymore and I'm washing my hands off that. However if anyone does do the above, I can supply all available information.
shinohai always thought Republics were the antithesis of monarchies .....
asciilifeform: jurov: i suspect that it'd cost a bit moar than 30btc to fetch mp and plug'im into 220v. which is what it'd take.
asciilifeform: as i understand, it's what he means by 'sovereign'.
asciilifeform: i.e. 'you want yer coin back? you and what army?'
asciilifeform: jurov: the good noose is, deedbot still plugged in (in e.g. #trinque iirc atm), can give the fella his proper rating for 0 cost
jurov: idk, mere -10 wouldn't do it justice
asciilifeform: jurov: in the world he claimed to have come from, this kind of behaviour gets folx killed. but, by same logic, if none of the victims seem to weigh enough to bite back properly, then 'fair game' .
jurov: Pls don't use his bullshit in any reasoning, not even about itself/himself. No sanity is to be had there.
asciilifeform: jurov: dunno, it seems to make perfect sense to me. 'you were dumb enuff to gimme what to steal, i'ma steal, muhaha, whatcha gonna do about it'.
asciilifeform: jurov: it aint as if mp were unique specimen, either. we're stuck on a whole planet fulla similar folx. and he's relatively small change, moar of a venus flytrap than proper predator ( i.e. i dun recall him going to anyone's house to put pistol to head and force to use mpex )
asciilifeform: ( if his bragging is to be believed, then -- maybe when was younger, and before it was called 'mpex' . but certainly not in recent times. )
asciilifeform: the 'muhaha' that made mpex 'sexy' from 'anarchic' pov , cuts both ways.
asciilifeform: and imho, the folx who paid, got what they were paying for : 1000km of blog about 'majesty', 10GB of photos of naked chix eating caviar, etc. ( if they thought they were paying for 'like nasdaq but w/out confiscations', they were morons, it's a perpetuum mobile and there aint no such thing )
verisimilitude: I'm reminded of my article on the value of sloth and apathy, which I need to update; apathy towards goings ons has saved me more than once from unpleasant results, and sloth has saved me where apathy wouldn't've.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the 1 problem w/ that approach is that it logically reduces to 'best life is as corpse'
shinohai: Experiments fail. But at least one learns what *doesn't* work, neh?
verisimilitude: I've noticed roughly the same thing, asciilifeform, which is part of why I don't follow it in all aspects of life. Still, the sheer amount of unpleasant things I've avoided due to it should be recognized.
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asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i've avoided boat accidents, by not having a boat, and plane accidents, similarly, but somehow difficult to get excited over this
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: ever meet folx who suddenly buy 'harley' at 50+ y.o. ? it happens so regularly in usa that it became stereotype. fella gets bored of waiting to die of old age / boredom / ballpoint pen accident...
thimbronion: I bought a yamaha at 20-something - discovered the physics of attempting to stop going downhill on gravel and sold it.
thimbronion: er, kawasaki but yeah.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i knew fella who 'discovered the physics' right in the parking lot. dropped full-scale 'harley' on own leg.
asciilifeform: the dealer dinged him for new paint, but reluctantly took the thing back.
thimbronion: They look so much lighter than they are.
shinohai: I had kawasaki for while too, but one slut is the limit on those things. xD
asciilifeform: shinohai: sidecar!111
shinohai: AHA! There was even thread on this one time (re: sidcars)
asciilifeform: indeed there was
thimbronion: shinohai: they are slutmagnets though.
shinohai: Oh that they are.
verisimilitude: Communities are perhaps easier to envision for this than possessions, asciilifeform. It's easy for me to reflect and be glad about my apathy towards ``Make Facebook account'' or apparently ``Join TMSR''.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: do you know who lev termen was ?
verisimilitude: I don't believe so, no.
asciilifeform: in usa best known for 'theremin' , 1st musical synth instrument, 1920s
asciilifeform: he lived to be nearly 100. story goes, he joined kpss in '91. clerk asked him 'wtf'. answered: 'i promised my best friend -- lenin'
verisimilitude: I recall reading about the spying gadget in the US embassy, yes.
asciilifeform: aha also him
verisimilitude: Had ``Leon Theremin'' been the name used, I would've recognized it.
verisimilitude: Expand KPSS for me, asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: Коммунистическая партия Советского Союза
verisimilitude: I really should learn that alphabet.
asciilifeform: errybody else standing in the queue with t, was there to quit
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: communist party of su
verisimilitude: So the point here is ``Better late than never.'' is it?
asciilifeform: wasn't joke , either -- they really were friends. taught him to play theremin...
asciilifeform: point was, 'not join anything, ever' aint much of a way to live.
verisimilitude: Oh, I agree.
verisimilitude: I've been a member of a rather nice group for over five years continuously now, and why else would I be here if I didn't want to associate with those here?
verisimilitude: Part of the point with that article is that people view apathy and sloth as purely negative traits, but I disagree.
Vexual: regarding boat accidents, it might be the only way of terra nullius island for a while, there's talk of 2 more years for out own good
Vexual: ie accidentally load on sprats and rhum, forget to turn off autopilot