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asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 11 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
watchglass: 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.098s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.206s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=623623
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.227s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.372s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.282s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.613s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
watchglass: 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.391s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=627448
asciilifeform: ./ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: 7508.17
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'aryan physics' lulz.
shinohai: lmao "wtf are you on?"
asciilifeform: 'he ain't dead, an' if he is, wasn't i who killed'im, and if i had, bastard had it coming' etc
asciilifeform: shinohai: i admit, i'm still a little disappointed that mp didn't stay in biz long enuff to have 'the new, improved' vtron baked
snsabot: Logged on 2020-02-05 17:08:54 asciilifeform: shinohai: i sincerely hope that mp et al actually try to bake this, it'll be hilarious to watch ( where signing e.g. linux kernel will need coupla 10,000s of rsa invocations, auto-recognition of 'what lang' so to get the comment & demarcation syntax, and coupld 10MB of entropy.. )
asciilifeform: maybe diana & co will take over this glorious mission. fitting companion proj w/ e.g. the awk irc bot..
shinohai: I am disappoint that didn't happen either (it may still happen)
shinohai: Looks like that bvt guy is the new vtronist for their camp
shinohai intends to stick with v.lisp though "no need for yet another keccak" etc.
asciilifeform: ftr i like bvt. he did an entirely decent job in e.g. asm massage for ffa , an' i'ma roll it into my tree as an optional branch when errything else is shelf-stable
shinohai: I don't mean above to intend I don't like the guy, just don't know him is all.
asciilifeform: i also have ftr nuffin against folx writing vtrons, even in mix of cobol & awk etc.
shinohai: "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine....." etc, etc.
asciilifeform: shinohai: moar like mongol bow. seems like 90% of vtron users , to date, eventually baked own
asciilifeform: an' they're all compat.
asciilifeform: ( at least after adjustment for keccakism )
asciilifeform: shinohai: imho jfw's complaint re the old vtrons is valid -- it's annoying to need a working gnat to build vtron w/ which to press gnat etc.
asciilifeform: the only effective, imho, pill, tho, is to bake one in a scripting lang which in turn implementable in coula kB of asm.
asciilifeform: *coupla
asciilifeform: e.g. sh, i found, is a dead end, unless one standardizes sumthing unclassical
snsabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 20:58:20 asciilifeform: potentially solvable by '10,000-year reich 1 troo os' standardization; but would have to standardize a bash-compat. sh, rather than plain sh
shinohai: I played around with idea of V in sh as well (wanted to stuff it into busybox) but found no solution to toposort problem (arrays, etc)
asciilifeform: ( orthogonal to this problem, is the fact that -- even with substantial effort -- sh proggies look like soup and are gargantuan in comparison w/ same solution in an actual script lang )
asciilifeform: in other lulz.
thimbronion: If you give me 32 bits associated with the home address of the most honest of men, I will find something passing through them which will hang him.
shinohai: Such a tired argument: "If you have nothing to hide, you don't have to worry."
asciilifeform: shinohai: i suspect elementary trollage. doubtful that anyone actually believes this nonsense.
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