adlai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2019-12-04#1003082 << there are several issues standing in the way of this
snsabot: Logged on 2019-12-04 02:42:34 asciilifeform: they can annex the petrostans and get 500x bigger whenever they feel like taking off the washington yoke.
adlai: they boil down to what a friend of mine, who was actually a true soldier (i.e., infantry; iirc, not even an NCO, just a dude with a rifle and magazines), summarized as: "the idf is not an army, it is a militia"
adlai: there are also severe ideological barriers to the currently-existing state of israel invading anywhere even close to what it did in 1967
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Back home, pizza in the fridge
adlai: while there are indeed a few vocal politicians who want to build a "jewish state of the levant", and a significant minority of the citizens who would not oppose this, there are actually very few citizens who would fight in such a war
mats: hard to believe israel can stand against their innumerable enemies, especially after being fought to a stalemate in 06 and the expansion of the shia crescent since
mats: saudis are weaker today with the young idiot running shit, also
adlai: the bulk of the IDF's power is in the reserves, and they are prepared for defense of the existing territory. exercises occasionally include simulations of "what if now we invade damascus", but in practice the reserves are set up to respond to a situation where one or more borders have been breached
BingoBoingo: mats: If anything the kid and the rest of the House of Saud seem rather friendly with the Israelis in light of the recent Shia supremacy in the region
adlai: (soldiers in the enlisted army are routinely reminded, "your job is to hold off the invaders for N hours/days, while reservists arrive; and they will provide cover for the ambulances that take your corpses home")
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: also home, about to sleep
asciilifeform: adlai: interesting detail, had nfi
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Premilinary map looking puts of floor of about 23-24 km for the day
asciilifeform: notbad
asciilifeform: and we didn't even start, iirc, until 1500 or so
asciilifeform to bed, bbl
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Awake and getting caffinated. The means to a certain wishlist item discussed yesterday has been located.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: also woke up, nao -- to dress, eat, will ping when ready after this
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite.
BingoBoingo: How are the feet?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: feet ok, legs a bit sore. oughta be ok for another 25km prolly
shinohai: BingoBoingo: will we see Qntra on the google forced javashit thing?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: cool
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Where is google forcing javashit now?
BingoBoingo: AH, found it.
shinohai: aha i cannot login from links nor w3m at all anymore
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Apparently Google decided doing so is insecure
BingoBoingo: They've hinted at doing this for a while, but... seems like they finally fired
asciilifeform: about to head to castle BingoBoingostein
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite, will be ready
shinohai: ./google does this still work?
shinohai: oh shit bot is down *sigh*
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/12/north-korea-bolstering-nuclear-deterrent-this-holiday-season/ << Qntra -- North Korea Bolstering Nuclear Deterrent This Holiday Season
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at yer door nao
feedbot: http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/uruguay-parte-4-el-turismo-es-trabajo/ << Fixpoint -- Uruguay parte 4: el turismo es trabajo