thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2020-12-04#1001539 << Precisely. Conservatism never had any victory conditions.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-04 21:57:33 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2020-12-04#1001521 << what would 'succeeding' even look like there ?!
thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2020-12-04#1001541 << Most still at chillwave+weed stage. Some proceeding to fentanyl+(not sure what the fentanyl crowd listens to).
snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-04 21:58:33 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/alethepedia/2020-12-04#1001531 << if the current 20-30yo gen. 'took reality into account', would wagner+cyanide. like in berlin '45. cuz, elementarily, 'musical chairs'. without even so many chairs.