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thimbronion: asciilifeform: My understanding of the issue is fuzzy, but I had to explicitly specify the encoding as UTF-8 when rendering strings, which I guess implies the default encoding is not that.
asciilifeform: a. was curious what the default was.
thimbronion: When I get the chance I will do a little debugging and see what the original encoding was.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: ty. and lemme know if again notice unibarf artifacts in log. ( tho i'm quite certain all encodings that actually occur on reasonably-configured box in fact render properly -- could be wrong )
asciilifeform: thimbronion: is most chinesium utf8-compat.? (afaik -- is, all of the examples i've dug up from old logs appear to render)
thimbronion: asciilifeform: Most of the chinesium I see is in either the browser or on a mobile device. I haven't ever had to select some weird encoding from the view menu (or wherever it was) in many years, so I suspect yes.
asciilifeform: aite.
thimbronion: adlai: this is the origin of http://alethepedia.com, which is still very much a work in progress: http://thimbron.com/2020/05/rule-britannica/
thimbronion: !s junger
lekythion: 8 results
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thimbronion: adlai: The index is fully built as of now. Still not sure how it was deleted last time, but I'll be making a backup.
thimbronion: !s poettering
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adlai: !s aletheometer
lekythion: 0 results
adlai: !s "electric sheep"
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adlai: eh, I guess that one is a little unfair, since the software in question is nearly linkrot to death, and it is perhaps unreasonable to expect the crawler to detect that a redirect is not malicious.
thimbronion: adlai: there is a huge amount of linkrot.
thimbronion: and archive.is has blocked my crawler.
adlai: after retrospect, I am mildly surprised that a github repository showed up so high for that query... although the precise mistake is quite amusing
thimbronion: adlai: this is the query syntax: https://lucene.apache.org/core/2_9_4/queryparsersyntax.html
thimbronion: The url field is called host, I think - don't remember atm
adlai: for 'WoT search', that might be less relevant than 'boosting', or deprecating, the promoter
thimbronion: adlai: hm yes - indeed.
adlai is unsure how orthogonal that is, to http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-09-21#1022057 , and to the protocol context ( e.g. irc, blogs - posts and comments are different contexts, etc )
snsabot: (asciilifeform) 2020-09-21 thimbronion: asciilifeform: no frequency counting currently. Easy enough to ignore search urls though.
thimbronion: adlai: I assume asciilifeform's search already allows some way to limit searches to a specific nick. lekythion could potentially improve results by associating the nick with the urls indexed in lines containing the nick.
thimbronion: Could also associate identities with urls indexed from blogs belonging to said identities.
thimbronion: As of now, only blogs themselves are indexed, not outgoing links, to be clear, but this is easy to change.
adlai: since you already plan to index the irc channels at some frequency, I will stand by my [earlier decision][http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-05-29#1013432], and will only link to that site if I consider a specific page relevant.
snsabot: (asciilifeform) 2020-05-29 adlai: seriously, read yourself to death in the the NYTimes tech blogs before you go looking for anything 'tech' in my site. it is, and always will be, almost entirely bounded by mathematics of no practical utility on one side, regrets from my own mistakes on a second side, and possibly a few different forms of fiction in the remaining hyperplanes
adlai: the wot is currently quite small, and almost entirely devoid of schism ; judging from the past decade, although it is unlikely to grow rapidly, there could often be situations where distrust can lead to sharply differing results, when searching for concepts close to it
adlai suspects that will not happen, as long as there is a common forum, even if that forum includes fueds of the 'vow to kill upon sight' variety
adlai: thimbronion: there is http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=guitar+from%3Awhaack&chan=all
adlai: thimbronion: I am going to toss a few more search terms in #exusiae, intentionally outside the logged channel to reduce clutter
thimbronion: adlai: you can directly message the bot
adlai: good to know, thank you
adlai: thimbronion: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=STQQ contains yet another example of headache due to the reduction of html to plain text, i.e. the list of channels becoming one word
adlai has no good solution for this, other than "doctor doctor, it hurts everywhere I touch // yes, your finger is broken"
thimbronion: adlai: I was able to customize the configurations for the blogs to only index articles, and not everything surrounding. I can likewise customize the indexer for logs.nosuchlabs.com. I am puzzled as to how those links got in the index though, since I'm not yet indexing logs.nosuchlabs.com.
thimbronion: Oh - hm yeah those links must be from #trilema, makes sense - there must have been some links to logs.nosuchlabs.com before #trilema was closed.
thimbronion: Anyway, for logs.nosuchlabs.com, or any log presented by the same underlying logger, this won't be a problem later on. I'm going to switch to those logs as a top level source and customize the indexer for them specifically. As far as rando sites go - that is tough.
thimbronion: I suspect the readability can also be improved with better presentation via a custom website for displaying results.