thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/agriculturalsupremacy/2020-03-13#1001492 << https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/. Unz also notable for "gas chambers only used for delousing" theory.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-03-13 21:21:19 BingoBoingo: "2/2 CDC was caught on the spot. When did patient zero begin in US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation! " - @zlj517 some Chinese foreign ministry PR guy
BingoBoingo: He also was for immigration before he was against it.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: if 'bioweapon', whoever bought it oughta ask for his money back. laughably weak 'weapon'.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: the whole thing is very bizarre. Still waiting for people here to collapse in the streets as they were supposedly duing in Wuhan.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: the only thing 'collapsing in the streets' is small biz .
snsabot: Logged on 2020-04-06 13:10:58 asciilifeform: thimbronion: if the crown 'pushed pause button' on productive economy, but not on rents -- then naturally ~errything other than crematorium will eventually go outta biz.
asciilifeform: china has bezzle implosion in the style of usa-2008; needed a smoke screen. notice, 'amazing' 2-week-build field hospitals etc. all disassembled. performance over, props removed from stage.
asciilifeform: nato reich decided to copy the script.
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I didn't read unz in its pro immigration days. That said I never quite understood why he had the Ask a Mexican column.
asciilifeform: in ru, esp. comical performance, folx standing inside packed train stations to get 'movement permit' for quarantine
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: That was before he made his site. Way back in the 1990's when he ran for California office
thimbronion: asciilifeform: likewise stile waiting here for the pics of high school gyms full of patients.
asciilifeform: picture this in a bona fide '80% kill' epidemic, e.g. obola
asciilifeform: or the 'test stations' where 'maybe you walked in w/out it, but nao you got it!' etc
thimbronion: Meanwhile I can't get my art framed.
BingoBoingo: Still no lockdown here and now the Anglotards are derping about Uruguay having the world's lowest R0 for the virus
thimbronion: asciilifeform: the only testing I can see the point of is random antibody testing - if that even works.
asciilifeform: in usa, the 'chattering class' more or less openly hoping the 'party never ends' : paid vacation from commutes and cube hells
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I think in CR the deaths are in the low 3 digits.
BingoBoingo: We hit 12 yesterday...
BingoBoingo: There seems to be a growing suspicion we got scammed
PeterL: I wonder how many people are going to continue working from home now that they showed it works?
BingoBoingo: Government here is treading the fine line between humoring the wail, and getting people back to work.
asciilifeform: mechanism for 'pile of corpses' show is pretty simple : folx have e.g. coronary, or car crash, walk into hospital, 'you can sit in the hall for next 2 days', finally keep over, tested, 'he had covid' (at this pt 60-70% tests +) , corpses += 1
thimbronion: PeterL: my hunch is few. But idk.
asciilifeform: *keel over
thimbronion: PeterL: I don't understand the commuters though. Horrible life.
PeterL: They keep putting up the number of "deaths from COVID", but they never say the normal amount of deaths over the same time for comparison
asciilifeform: observe the lack of 'pile of corpse' in african orcistans; or iceland; or any # of places which 'didn't get the memo'
thimbronion: asciilifeform: yeah still waiting for "humanitarian disaster" in africa.
thimbronion: now it's "the second wave will be worse tho"
PeterL: I guess it depends on what you do ... I commute (~5 min) to work, have chemicals and instruments in the lab that I wouldn't be able to do from home
asciilifeform: PeterL: 5min?! do you live in the lab ?
thimbronion: PeterL: not bad. But many many people commute 1hr+ in cars. I once did car+train+lightrail.
PeterL: I live in a small town, nothing in town is more than 5 mins away from where I live
asciilifeform when last had commute, it was nominally 1h (ea. way) but often 2+, i.e. summing to 4h in wheeled coffin ea. biz day
PeterL: Some of my co-workers commute from the next town or two over, their commute is 20 or 30 minutes
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: so now there are all sorts of "organic" protests happening here.
thimbronion: by "conservatives"
PeterL: did you ever consider moving closer to where you work?
asciilifeform: PeterL: in those days -- did consider. but did not want to spend 80% of the pay on a 40m^2 cockroach flat, which is what it would've meant.
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: I've been reading about them, but honestly if they aren't shooting or breaking shit... After Oregon and the Virginia thing... I have low expectations for boomer activism
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: has a wiff of Charlottsville to me.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what did 'shootin' and breakin'' get e.g. the bmore folx ?
asciilifeform: last i knew, you can't shoot soros from street of bmore. need at least medium-range icbm.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Shooting and breaking seemed to give them de facto control over much of the city
thimbronion: asciilifeform: africa for africans at any cost
BingoBoingo: The bmore folx didn't care about shooting lizards. THey just wanted the local cops to stfu
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik they already achieved 'africa for the africans' there. dun recall ever seeing a white cop in bmore.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: but they still have racist technologies like running water and electricity.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: iirc even in johannesburg still (nominally) also have
asciilifeform: 'while supplies last'
thimbronion: asciilifeform: yes I believe there was noise about a water shortage but I haven't heard much about it recently.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: water price ~doubled in washingtonistan suburbia in past decade. ~0 noise in the fishwrap.
asciilifeform: noise is made when the noisemakers find it expedient, and not otherwise.
BingoBoingo: Across the river dollar blue is running past 100
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: 100 pesos per dollar?
BingoBoingo: In Argentina. Had been around 80 then jumped a few days ago. Hard to tell when it will start running free, but... the time seems to be coming soon
BingoBoingo: Official rate only climbed up to about 68 to the dollar
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/agriculturalsupremacy/2020-04-22#1002031 << fwiw i strongly suspect corpse count per diem is ~lower~ nao, in usa in particular, than 'in peacetime' -- given the lack of the usual traffic carnage
snsabot: Logged on 2020-04-22 13:13:46 PeterL: They keep putting up the number of "deaths from COVID", but they never say the normal amount of deaths over the same time for comparison
asciilifeform: ( not to mention that traffic corpses tend to consist of working-age folx, vs. the typical flu victim, who already 1 foot in grave )
feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/04/on-earthday-pantsuited-environmental-activists-admit-they-love-the-new-post-activity-normal-want-it-forever/ << The Montevideo Standard -- On Earthday Pantsuited Environmental Activists Admit They Love The New Post Activity Normal, Want It Forever
thimbronion: I would say we're at roughly 90% facemask coverage at urban supermarkets now.
thimbronion: Keep getting the feeling I'm in some kind of nightmare.
BingoBoingo: It's definitely absurd