(trilema) ben_vulpes: going to bounce logs.bvulpes.com a few times here shortly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looked nutty, ty asciilifeform adlai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dear lispers, what would compel someone to put a defpackage form inside an eval-when?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.thelocal.at/20170128/hotel-ransomed-by-hackers-as-guests-locked-in-rooms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what catch, my envelope has integrity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: simonpenner: cats are pests
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: eh i'm aware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: goals are twofold: prevent further paint degradation and as much rust as possible now that the skin is broken
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "paint" paint or eg https://www.rustoleum.com/pages/about-rust-oleum/rustoleum-press-room/rust-oleum-news/rust-oleum-leakSeal-flexible-rubber-coating-stops-leaks-instantly/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: any thoughts on rustoleum spray on rubber/"plastidip" to slow down metastasization/rusting of body panel gouge?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's !!register <url-to-paste-of-pubkey>
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yes, drops action
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not, sorry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: later y'all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-27/u-s-economic-growth-cools-on-biggest-trade-drag-since-2010
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reduce excess baby into biodiesel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh just make more babies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: electricity is an antipattern
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no need to impose all of the load on others
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, but carrying 27+lbs of kid plus groceries while i stare at the sky and contemplate nozzles that impart rotational inertia to the flugenbody is not time efficient; i can just as easily design while hefting bairns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah let me just *oof* move this *hrunph* truck over *hurk* here baby
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i only recently realized that i needed to be doing the heavy lifting on family outings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is worrisome
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're absurdly tall and made out like a bandit in post-ussr ro
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bro!!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bro!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks like apple's in for another lost decade
(trilema) ben_vulpes: entirely unrelatedly, ms beat the street
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i would say "fight me irl" but you're the one #t denizen i don't think i'd have reasonable odds against
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or did he grow up on comics and not spoarts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: probably knows
(trilema) ben_vulpes: isn't that what you call that thing in basketball where one dood drives in and puts the ball up for someone else to net?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "ben_vulpes in for the layup, mircea_popescu with the duuuuuunk!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the only thing that even halfway works is cunt.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am offended at the inadequacy of everything in this world
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sutainabilitits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: threaded replies is new to php devs? have never been on mailing lists?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yaok i get it. wp nesting limit even existing boggles my mind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > "is renewable energy news at risk of becoming clickbait" bwaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what means fortranism in this context?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: six
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did note. care to expunge?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no such nasa makes sugar rockets that launch sideways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quite dead serious. nasa is a zombie.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nasa now, fuck'em
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looking forward to the amd hike
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aca on the chopping block
(trilema) ben_vulpes: epa is the latest word
(trilema) ben_vulpes: castle i should say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i am i shit you not considering moving the brood back into the family domicile in 2019
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although i suppose enough do it that none of them risk ostracization for it now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they already wear skirts paint nails
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: keep reading
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: perhaps under explained in "if you accept the thesis" where <thesis> is entire stack of usgola. yes, 401kholder seeks to eat cheese, turn around put money into house do all the clever tricks with it. also many don't! and many like myself look at the whole thing as a stupid intellectual complexity trap not worth entertaining.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or good old fashioned frontier bride, why all the haet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gut flora maybe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now, mosquito perhaps more accurate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i dun see the hook, have staff on call 24/7. no harem, granted, but "ride or die bitch" worth a million hausfraus.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "being of sound mind and body, i'm spending my money as fast as i can"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "sepsis and wagner"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hurtful
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: make no mistakes, i bite zero hooks myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dipshit sarariman idem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because dipshit sarariman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you accept the thesis, it ain't a hook it's a free meal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you f'r instance can't seem to get colander right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a rare typo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/perceived-vs-actual-barriers-to-homeownership-for-young-adults/comment-page-1#comment-183 << but exponded upon nevertheless
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no argument
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the other hand "b-b-b-but not real retirement plan because no employer match!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, i kid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: everything must be free, including 401k contributions BUT NOT SPEECH
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaaand we've exhausted the wp stack :D
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/perceived-vs-actual-barriers-to-homeownership-for-young-adults/comment-page-1#comment-182
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover there is no harm in bringing a patch for discussion, and all of this durm and strang will discourage "patches alf doesn't like" even if just in the patcher's mind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: highly prehensile, or prezhensile as the tenderqueers would say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with my dong
(trilema) ben_vulpes beer, meat, carbs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guessing at definitions from context, but with all the excitement of html css and js
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i didn't know anyone browsed the web with browsers anyways, i thought the en vogue thing to do was just to read the source and sort of intuit where the boxes went
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 0/2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is so cool!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > 404
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > click here for previous ...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Please create a user account for more screenshot quota.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: There were already 188 screenshot requests for cascadianhacker.com today.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will not defensively css against the width at which archive.is renders websites
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that's not a browser
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which browser
(trilema) ben_vulpes: patches welcome
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/perceived-vs-actual-barriers-to-homeownership-for-young-adults/comment-page-1#comment-178 << asciilifeform responded, also comments properly threaded nao
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i excised my humor subsystems last year
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how do you square this "someone mighta" with "nothing for allcomers", and in particular "a specific thing for nobody"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heat flux through butt on gold toilet turns out -- not pleasant
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "address-generation from mining" literally does not compute for me unless there's some amount of "pubkey hash must meet this criteria" a la bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in addition to "mine for subsidy"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there some amount of "mine for privkey" involved?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i never successfully worked through how transacting would work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this one also continues to boggle me: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422790
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am under the impression that a coinbase would not need to be injected, but that the individual utxos do need to be.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let us sweep the floor then, and settle the semantics. "unspent transaction out" is now "coinbase" according to mircea_popescu ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "coinbases" in this post means something rather different from what i've come to know them as eg the block subsidy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i shall reread aaaagain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait no i don't, why is tx-gen box to be offlined and not the signing box?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i see it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah,
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "tcp inject"!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: install openbsd on them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make macs great again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's GREAT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: on the "oh noes apple broke more shit" thread, not only do pageup/down not work, but apple's own messenger wastes all the CPU that "Slack" left on the table
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not even an altruism thing, it's a "do you serve a churning vat of cockroaches or kings with names"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: logs and search will at the least provide interesting lessons in postgres design and optimization. writing my own disqus, not so much.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: for all of the time i have spent losing my mind in radioactive webtech mines i a) do not like the domain b) have zero desire to build half-baked solutions when ~fully baked ones exist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: remind me why we use computers again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: because it is wholly unacceptable that i not be able to see the effects of changing one tag in the source files immediately.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i wanted comments, but did not want to bake myself further into an ossified tower of software retardation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eventually grew to over sixty seconds per export run.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not at all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: you missed the good old days when i exported raw html from an org file
(trilema) ben_vulpes: outhouses and trenchfoot. that's webdev!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: except of course threaded comments, and this and that and the other thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fact of the matter is that wp 2.7 does ~everything a person needs from a personal cms afaict.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, whatever. geotherm heated seat even.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yes, fix the javascript only to find that it never worked in the first place, and the replytocom query parameter doesn't set the parent_id variable apparently at all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the use of a friend's backhoe to put in a septic system to replace the outhouse.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is not an honourable feat.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am wasting time fixing the wp comment threading shitshow already.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have very little appetite for futzing with css.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh fucking highlight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono, as in go look at it now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: comme ca?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stylesheets welcome, btw.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no, i'm ready to eat the whole wad.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes well i may as well just scrape btcbase at that point asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i *have* put some thought into this project, asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as i recalled.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is it not bouncer logs -> html transform?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i can scrape btcbase as well as the next feller.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was this before or after taking responsibility for critical infrastructure?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which, subject to opsec constraints, is a fine thing to do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless i misremember, the man is in the habit of at least mentioning prolonged absences.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or or or
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: and on this, the third consecutive day of asking, would you kindly acknowledge receipt?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: may i have a copy of your log backups?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: there are many parts of a kalash that are not strictly ergonomic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no argument, but i do not see the point of moving output indexer into a separate bin given that it needs a live blockchain anyways.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: reference miner is still in trb bin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2, where one signs, perhaps.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see the benefits to the increase of binary compilation targets to 3 from the one extant.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: what /currently/ compiles as the single binary "trb"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now /that/ i am sold on slicing from the node.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am still not sold on moving the wallet outside of what compiles as "trb"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh who was that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: please no backwards compatibility holy shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: consider #!/bin/bash and set -e to make the thing die if any subprocesses return non-zero
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: GNU Awk 4.1.3, API: 1.1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps a low-dough point: vpatches ensure that functionality will always be available, regardless of weight of "current" version
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, btc sigs are silly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: elaborate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: why would you even consider releasing a patch that leaves trb unable to cook and transmit transactions? keep it on your table where it's useful to you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: trb cannot exist in a state where "user must supply code for x"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: galois corp doesn't have enough butts on staff to have a good chunk of anything outsourced to it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "yeah who knows he probably has a container of servers on his land somewhere, but he also keeps the entire region connected to the bitcoin net so anyone who fucks with him fucks with the whole valley"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't bury a container of xyz much less tell anyone about it. be indispensable to the people who feed you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so don't. fix their cars instead.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here's the spectre of atomized americans again.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: long shot, sure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in re china embargo, that'd be a tidy provocation for cn to demonstrate how easily the us fleet is shredded.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're conflating "things fall apart" with "texas threatens goldman sachs' control of paper gold price"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: misrepresent rural folks working in us mil?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the oathkeepers are a notorious joke, and nobody's going to stand up to a commanding officer to defend the good people of texas, no matter how little the ordered disliked texans the day before.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: recall "the most important part is being wrong together" from the manning piece?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then the gamble becomes "can tejas out-shoost the feds"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: that project could kick off quite the conflict if it threatens the value of paper gold significantly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: hash oil bank when
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ferment your trash, fix your neighbors toilets, pray you can get through the long walk in the desert with friends.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gimme that good debt, right to this clean vein.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah kind of what i'm saying. the currency degradation is utterly irreversible, and that's the us' death sentence, no matter how great again the temporary may feel.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this may be so, but getting the dollar back to 1000/btc is going to be harder with every rod of rebar.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great again full employment + ubi == currency rot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: comeback necessarily would have to entail sane monetary structure, which is even less likely than gutting the department of labor.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am very short any sort of comeback.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: er "why you don't like the epa gutting"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh i see why you don't like the epa, they fucked up the white pennsylvanian red state people you hate so much. so it's cool that penn no longer has potable water, because they're vile trumpers, right?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: yeah actually that's a good one to roast liberals with.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: anecdata.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gonna hear the same wail in re the fda as well, with the same response. "they fed us meth under doctors orders. kill them all."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stood by while the water table was ruind.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: epa was doing fuck all in the first place.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: put ten through get one out. almost as good for the body politic as war proper.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: there are a zillion fracking taps the saudis 'tricked us' into putting in.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah what fucking missing, there's shittons.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not holding my breath for anyone associated with the government to fix shit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nobody here is laboring under the illusion that any money is to be made. there are social media twits, and a small group of people trading fermented trash around.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but teh parrrts!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: capital wielders under inca are interesting?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dunno about 'make', but some places cast al, fe, weld racks to rigs. saw it, drank with the people involved, don't know what you want.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yes, look to the overpaid and highly visible imperial offices and not to the sheep farmers on lopez.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh yeah i forgot about them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from 3 chuckles in a 3-hour rotation of minorities down to barely 1 by accounts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the performance-art-masquerading-as-commentary is growing shriller and less amusing by the day.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imperial regional offices are: intel, precision cast parts, flir and the roboflugen boeing division up the valley.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this repositing every single thing that happens as a direct result of the great inca in america is downright tiring. inca gives zero shits about this corner of its empire, leaves us to fend for ourselves.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, casting bases for dental chairs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where small can be anything from 20 to 500 staff.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: come off it, there are myriad small casting shops here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a full-employment program, the money is definitionally wasted.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "where will the money come from?" "just borrow more, couldn't be easier."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but why don't we spend the wall money on fixing our infrastructure?" "were you even /listening/ during the campaign? it's not an exclusive thing, he's doing both."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mmmmmhm.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: blue collar whites want to set rebar and pour concrete while the minority groups they think themselves above mow their lawn.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exactly!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "do kindly look to your history books and see how the last enormous welfare program worked out for its sponsors"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "wake up babe army, the wall is not a racist thing. it's the largest works program since the new deal."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty much.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: full employment is very cheap compared to bank bailouts though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah does matter quite a bit how great the great again is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i do not see this "trump vs republicans" thing. he saved the party, the old cripples are on their way out and he'll be either vice president in 8 years or speaker of the house.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this "nixon-shaped box"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: drugwar charges?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: may i have a copy of your log backups?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a+ historical document linked from 'days of rage': http://nymag.com/news/features/46170/#print
(trilema) ben_vulpes: top logs today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buenos dias
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for BingoBoingo http://i.imgur.com/NuNbW1X.gifv
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other gabriel_laddel comments that have babe army swooning: https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how about http://trilema.com/2009/pe-scurt-despre-analiza-tranzactionala/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also phf may i please have the log backups?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: posix regexes work, i'll see what the performance implications are of using those instead.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted, it serves a different problem, "searching documents" with naive user input.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: postgres full text search; "some pathetic piece of shit trying to be clever"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i ain't selling "pg fts" as any sort of solution; 'tis largely an experiment in pg search and data modeling.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i hear ya
(trilema) ben_vulpes: WHAT i ask you IS THE POINT of an ultra-heavy IDE that a) cannot tell me where the protocol breakage is during a refactor much less what to do about it b) has a project search SO MISERABLY BAD that a man must revert to grep in order to find ANYTHING
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in which it is shown that xcode's "find occurences of string in project" ACTUALLY FUCKING DOES NOT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh fucking lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh mircea_popescu how do i find the qualia thread in your blog