(trilema) ben_vulpes: not eve, just 'sideload'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "here's a taste of life as curated by the competent, aren't you mad at the fake lifestyle you've been fed?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also these devices are not properly jailbroken
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: users don't get a choice any more, not really
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's an educational project, asciilifeform .
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i'm going to put a fun thing on your phone. apple will break it within the month, because they're assholes."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well you don't go through the censors obvs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "yeah, and now how pissed are you at apple?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevertheless, the response is "holy fuck, i haven't had this much fun playing games on my phone...ever!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apple borks the thing remotely within a month
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm in the habit of installing gb/gba emulators on my friends ipnohes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: touchscreens are just woefully inadequate devices for complexity mgmt.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the moo3 rewrite for touchscreen isn't a...bad...rewrite...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "the jerseys" "was located"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and with this bit of how the other half lives, i bid ye adieu: http://68.media.tumblr.com/2b2348d8f69c7d1dd8d1ba6b96358cf4/tumblr_omzwq2XTZI1vg6t4ko1_1280.jpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-16#1628104 << tripped over the "won't connect to localhost" horseshit iirc, which you've fixed
(trilema) ben_vulpes has a tool in place, the annual maintenance and extension budget for which was dwarfed by the amount of money spent closing the sale on its replacement. which is going on lord only knows how late, nth rewrite, over budget, no surprises in sight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: except for how it's a miserable shitshow of liars and frauds and also you have to sell shit they won't actually benefit from to bureaucrats
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the best game in town is actually to sell "software services" to the "public utilities"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which go for 5-7x what a car shop goes for, fwiw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: subway trash food vendor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: triggered
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more specifically, "assuming one wants a car shop for purely emotional and recreational reasons, how to determine what to pay for it?" "calculate hardware liquidation price, discount four years of cashflow declining by 10-30% a year to today, and offer a dime over that"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well yeah, nobody wants to deal with schmucks who're going to gripe about the shitbuck it's going to take to fix their sole mode of transportation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "would you rather buy a car repair shop or a subway?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funny, veen and i were just running through this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buffet at least endeavoured once upon a time to buy firms with established mgmt.
(trilema) ben_vulpes chants blood blood blood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kill the old boss and take his chair
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dipshits who got onto the car project will say that about /him/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well ofc he'd /say/ that, /now/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm plain unaware of what he says
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stood by, happy to not be in the hotseat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, come, he just organized the teams as what took the shellacking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you know how it goes. traders, trade. hodlers, hodl. investors, what dat.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: to be fair, anyone who didn't liquidate a week before jobs' illness hit the rags is a derp who got what they deserved
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'omfg you mean to tell me there's no centralized database of who owns what and owes who else which shares?'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hacker nyooz recently realized how brokerages add slack to the market, twas a lulzy set of comments
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: bezzle land corporate structuring is just sad on every axis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: golden era of jobsdom
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cases are very pretty at that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevertheless, i have good money that says these machines will be plentiful and cheap until they are utter unobtainium.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm sure stan has all sorts of shade to throw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with the forth based firmware, etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, specifically the macintosh ppc g5's
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, 'new'. new to me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get 'em while you can, folks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also acquired a few new g5 towers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: old hat for the mircea_popescu's
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imagine, extracting penitence from an nth-wave feminist child of gs-infinity staff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, upstack, i have had a very ahem productive weekend
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: pardon me but the side of your /what/?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: lol, verily
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the experience is more that of having blessed some random jews wandering in the desert with the secrets of hygiene
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean there's a whole trumpet flare and clouds parting and everything sure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asks the guy who developed a recreational habit of fixing other people's toilets in the most retarded corner of south america...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you don't own it, what the fuck is the point fixing it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you can't spend all that energy confronting her with her own mistakes, let her walk out, digest it, and the next man benefit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pls to expand?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-19#1629214 << "if you're not falling you're not learning", also "conflict is productive"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "autonomous trap 001"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: feels really good to get a solid grasp on a nut you'd thought completely out of reach and really wrench on it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaand what feels like an eternity later, i have completed my first actual (minor) under-the-hood surgery on the corvette. alternator belt, which is behind the power steering, air conditioning, and "AIR" pump belts
(trilema) ben_vulpes read that as "chip starter"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Alf's Snake"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other animal abuse: https://68.media.tumblr.com/2eb26f208aae5aac32c073c00c69bbf5/tumblr_nry1bnZ8Ug1rlcp5ro1_1280.jpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the methodology i recall was 'for each tx, take top 32 bits, use as index into array, increment byte at offset"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when you say 'colliding txids', you mean 'colliding top 32 bits', right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628943 << shoot, no, but i'll rechurn and do so
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lest anyone forget, my skull-processes are geological in pace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627436 << i saw a few 2's scroll by while writing the index to disk, i'm going to spend some time staring at it myself and then share it around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: hook me up, bae: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/L1fRc/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, are people passing you on the slopes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also helmets are hella comfy and i have nfi what you'd need peripheral vision for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, if you're not falling, you're not learning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the mind boggles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people don't immediately make friends with the largest animal in the room?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interdasting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no tv in my house
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i am not a big bird specialist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: precisely so that losing power doesn't mean instadeath
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and then they hit mechanical stops, eg 0, 1, 2, 3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: aiui, nobody cranks the effecting surfaces around, but uses a small flap to do so.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't the megaplanes do the trick with the tiny flap that actuates the effecting flap?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no mechanical backups in those?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i imagine the actuation forces in a hyraulicized biz jet are...larger
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so get the bird into some sort of regime where you can air-start the turbines?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: manual control surface actuation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: what means "recover the aircraft exercising raw muscle force"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: WHOA
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > the aircraft received damage beyond repair and was written off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: SWEET
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > sends business jet in uncontrolled descent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: pm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well at first i thought it was a good pun on don sancho using the portugese dao, and punning on teh dao attacker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh k that's a pretty good nick
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't get me wrong, responding in context is entirely adequate most of the time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: yeah, but falls apart if i want to hold onto a signed thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bwahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes on tenterhooks for punchline
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: what mircea_popescu said: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-16#1628240
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other modern obfuscutronix: http://68.media.tumblr.com/fe0a9af4b1b9f48bd034fc8b6eb57298/tumblr_omtld1OkHV1u0x24bo1_1280.jpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i didn't understand his shovelful, is all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: come again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would really like that stateless verificator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck, buddy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: checking could possibly be a thing after
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no i want to see the fucking signature
(trilema) ben_vulpes: greeeaaaaat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess i can --verbose and get the mpi values?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: dude how does --list-packets help at all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: coooool
(trilema) ben_vulpes sighs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: enTIREly unrelated, does anyone know how to get gpg to decrypt a message that is also signed, but to produce the signature in addition to saying that the signature is good?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: methinks most of the crying was cut out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: ack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: epic pile btw, i don't believe for a second 4chan has worked through it yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: columns variously ionic and dorian, made of ebony
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these ebon pillars don't like that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know in point of fact that i've demonstrated how candidates for voice are to introduce themselves before.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: next time someone says "i know a feller", next question is "which feller?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: question will now float, "which 'regular' didn't beat elementary manners into his wannabe vassals?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reject the wot, even humorously, at your own risk.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you mean robert viragh ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subhuman trash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has the stones to "make a vpn" whatever that means to the average bu tard, but not to make a key and get in the wot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get in the wot or get right the fuck out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!down BU_lulz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: could enforce uniqueness in the second column
(trilema) ben_vulpes mutters something about join table for wives and husbands
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other tls: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/certifi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ja, still want 'em?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not many, but yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: one of which? venereal-laden?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: that's not a nice way to speak about a girl who's so charitable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: proud, upstanding slut with no pretension
(trilema) ben_vulpes: she's a slut not a whore
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does not deserve to be so lumped
(trilema) ben_vulpes: she is a CHASTE LADY
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey you take that back about jquery
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > is/are invalid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what the FUCK is the point of javascript if such RETARDS are going to wield it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh OH and then while the little javascripty checkboxes next to the fields of pointlessness show green the ACTUAL POSTBACK VALIDATION FAILS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good god
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > in what city does your nearest sibling live
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because that's a constant string in the universe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > what is the name of your youngest child
(trilema) ben_vulpes: forwarding is swiss cheese, i don't even think that's for sale
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i figured the boats were under constant optical satellite tracking, perhaps these schmucks weren't paying for it? http://gcaptain.com/bunker-tanker-hijacked-off-somalia/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actual tx in question: http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks/455604#5da9e054f81716ff54fefa10fae3c025685faf5170d1b270b3384a3406d781e0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-03#1621508 << http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks/457168#5d92aca92ced62e03899d87d78da10634bcdec1702ed3e2d3d084c083730bf9b
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "if it's not backed up, it's clearly not important"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no rush
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh i took this priceless jewel and scribbled my name in it"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what would the point be? destroys press integrity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i ~never touch "pressed" source
(trilema) ben_vulpes: warning and stopping doesn't really help, as i see it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: seems the cleanest, least error prone thing to do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sorry. i'd rather it rip out the press target if it existed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd rather it were transparently idempotent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the lifespan and relevancy of facebook or any other webapp pales in comparison to the power of actual social networks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the pseudo-useful key generator is /cryptographically secure/ mircea_popescu, i don't know what you're complaining about
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if the makefile is intact, make ONLINE=1 i believe is the flag for autoprocure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: device has a cost
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks like mine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: makefiles.vpatch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if you press to the makefiles head do you get a concatenation as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i figured it was a shoo-in to provide a sham escape valve for 401k funbucks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh i thought the failure of the don't-call-it-an-etf ripped the buy side clean out of the market though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1625922 << no idea how that came to be, but superseded by logbot-multiple-channels-corrected in any case
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelolted: https://heatst.com/tech/he-will-not-divide-us-livestream-placed-in-middle-of-nowhere-but-4chan-still-found-way-to-troll-it/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i hope the point is coming through, though, that 'CI' is utterly irrelevant in the face of the scope of systems choreography demanded and actual tests to be written
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can even diddle trb-observed clock to get difficulty curve to do whatever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, if genesis is programmable, can generate chains for testing on the fly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should even be possible to test reorg behavior!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yup
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if afl is not a lurking piece of garbage, plugging trb into that might yield some interesting strange.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what means "tx fuzzer" to mp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (well, not entirely baseless, i've put a modicum of thought into the topic and have been pricing a new box to boot)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: entirely baseless estimate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably could be done on a machine costing ~2btc/yr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or possibly recently "sync from on-host, known-fast node for every vpatch"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "sync from net for every vpatch"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one quickly starts thinking thoughts like "verify whole chain for every vpatch"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so before even thinking about CI the testing strategy needs some actual thought, planning, and likely at least one patch. maybe more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i went so far as to set up a solipsistic test net before bumping into the dumb-as-rocks "needs 2 nodes in order to mine" shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, having thought about "testing" trb, i am interested to hear what kinds of tests framedragger would write
(trilema) ben_vulpes: total outstanding, not traded over daily mining vol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for v i suppose, nevermind.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: suites*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to jump over to mod6's thread for half a second, both he and i have our own suite of automated tests
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "in stark contrast to gold, where daily trade volume exceeds total mined by several orders of magnitude"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "daily trade volume is only a small volume of total bitcoin mined"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "because we've made it impractical to trade the underlying, nobody trades the underlying on our wholly-owned venues"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "exchanges that account for the bulk of trading are subject to little regulatory oversight and that existing know-your-customer or identity-verification measures are lax and can be easily bypassed"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > "the Commission believes that the significant markets for bitcoin are unregulated."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: cool thanks, will investigate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: last few times i cracked a pyject, elpy and python-mode and friends proved...resistant to providing utility
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: i suppose that i'm pretty lucky to have never worked under anyone who thought oracle worth including in the matrix
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once the category of sv finger-trap is introduced, every option must demonstrate that it is /not that/.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the /fuck/ are you smoking?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hey boss, this looks like something written to suck devs into paying a consulting company to fix bugs in their own software, shall we introduce it as a dependency in our stack?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: time-cost of audit impossible to estimate at least, and if so and security is a concern, why bother.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: time would be better spent curating a tumblr full of naked girls and american muscle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rots the mind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: 'tisn't as though hftbro is exhaustive banger-on of every dumb thing, just the ones he's faced with
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: dude start by writing some tests mebbe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bashops uber alles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "can you give us a tldr, kiddo?" "NO TLDRS ARE FOR FAGGOTS SIX MONTHS STARTS YESTERDAY"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "URGENT: SR MGMT MUST READ LOGS"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh now i'm imagining a research report which is just a link to log line
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's what they sell on, but it turns out that the insulation is measured in briefcases of hundies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TEH ISOLATION
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: you have no idea what you're missing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other #stancelife/americana: http://68.media.tumblr.com/73d8d4a3bdd9733278acd4f0e9eeb5a0/tumblr_omnyfwNvCH1s2a69oo1_500.jpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: critical production as distinct from toy production?
(trilema) ben_vulpes kids
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was guaranteed way to get boy out of house though "hey i'm here" *slamming around*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes was too kind to call trinque during business hours, lols not worth angrytrinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: oya
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know, SOMETIMES
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have seen the most amazing kaleidescopic fireworks shows upon opening the machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh don't even get me started on the ways in which the laptops don't behave deterministically
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fine, fine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > in whatever way
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nor is it a computer!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yank cord, demonstrate deterministic failure plx
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh you have a ups in play as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what upon them possibly could
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well computers don't work per sane definitions of working
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bezosnet is a far more capable docker than docker ever will be.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which BY THE WAY
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah the thing approximately works as an uptime monitor for impoverished ustards running 20 side projects on a single aws t1.micro
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hah oh you hadn't?